RE: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach

2004-02-04 Thread Darren Martz
The problem is when replacing a Nortel system. The existing phones become
useless, so we're looking at either using totally IP based phones or using a
channel bank with different office phones.

The only problem is finding an IP phone that is decent for business,
supports multiple lines (at least 2) and is reasonably priced.

This is more difficult than I expected. The voip-info.org site has excellent
information, but it seems to show the IP phone coverage is still in the
early adopter stage. Please correct me if my statement is wrong, I'd love
for it to be wrong.

My thinking is that most of us are looking for hardware based IP Phone's
that work well with Asterisk and begin to go beyond the traditional business
phone.

So my first step is to find the most cost effective way to utilize our
traditional lines and move on from there.

Cheers,
Darren

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On Friday 23 January 2004 12:18, Paul Mahler wrote:
 On Friday, January 23, 2004 at 8:04 AM, Steven Critchfield wrote:
  On Fri, 2004-01-23 at 09:30, Darren Martz wrote:
   I have 8 lines coming into an existing PBX system and am looking
   for a cost
   effective way to replace the existing system with Asterisk. We
   need some of
   the features in Asterisk, including its ability to support remote
   offices (long distance savings).
  
   At first glance this appears to require a T100P card and a channel
   bank, but
   that seems rather expensive. My estimated price on that would be
   roughly $2600 for 8 lines given that system - perhaps my estimate
   is way off
  
   Is there another way that is more cost effective?
 
  That number sounds about right. It is likely that it will be less,
  but budgeting that much for hardware is a good start.
 
 Do you have to continue to use the existing handsets? You should look
 at replacing the existing phones with SIP phones.

He did say cost-effective.  Last I checked, 24 SIP phones (unless they
are Grandstreams) will cost far more than a channel bank.

-Tilghman


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RE: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach

2004-02-03 Thread Gene Kochanowsky
Will this product be available in the next few weeks?

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How about a 16 port FXO/FXS card (your choice of FXO/FXS modules or any
mix of them) for $999. Will that be a good option?


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On Friday 23 January 2004 12:18, Paul Mahler wrote:
 On Friday, January 23, 2004 at 8:04 AM, Steven Critchfield wrote:
  On Fri, 2004-01-23 at 09:30, Darren Martz wrote:
   I have 8 lines coming into an existing PBX system and am looking
   for a cost
   effective way to replace the existing system with Asterisk. We
   need some of
   the features in Asterisk, including its ability to support remote
   offices (long distance savings).
  
   At first glance this appears to require a T100P card and a channel
   bank, but
   that seems rather expensive. My estimated price on that would be
   roughly $2600 for 8 lines given that system - perhaps my estimate
   is way off
  
   Is there another way that is more cost effective?
 
  That number sounds about right. It is likely that it will be less,
  but budgeting that much for hardware is a good start.
 
 Do you have to continue to use the existing handsets? You should look
 at replacing the existing phones with SIP phones.

He did say cost-effective.  Last I checked, 24 SIP phones (unless they
are Grandstreams) will cost far more than a channel bank.

-Tilghman

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach

2004-01-31 Thread Asterisk
How about a 16 port FXO/FXS card (your choice of FXO/FXS modules or any
mix of them) for $999. Will that be a good option?


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On Friday 23 January 2004 12:18, Paul Mahler wrote:
 On Friday, January 23, 2004 at 8:04 AM, Steven Critchfield wrote:
  On Fri, 2004-01-23 at 09:30, Darren Martz wrote:
   I have 8 lines coming into an existing PBX system and am looking
   for a cost
   effective way to replace the existing system with Asterisk. We
   need some of
   the features in Asterisk, including its ability to support remote
   offices (long distance savings).
  
   At first glance this appears to require a T100P card and a channel
   bank, but
   that seems rather expensive. My estimated price on that would be
   roughly $2600 for 8 lines given that system - perhaps my estimate
   is way off
  
   Is there another way that is more cost effective?
 
  That number sounds about right. It is likely that it will be less,
  but budgeting that much for hardware is a good start.
 
 Do you have to continue to use the existing handsets? You should look
 at replacing the existing phones with SIP phones.

He did say cost-effective.  Last I checked, 24 SIP phones (unless they
are Grandstreams) will cost far more than a channel bank.

-Tilghman

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach

2004-01-31 Thread David Liu
What card would that be?  I would be interested to test it out.


David

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 How about a 16 port FXO/FXS card (your choice of FXO/FXS modules or any
 mix of them) for $999. Will that be a good option?
 
 
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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2004 5:35 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach
 
 On Friday 23 January 2004 12:18, Paul Mahler wrote:
  On Friday, January 23, 2004 at 8:04 AM, Steven Critchfield wrote:
   On Fri, 2004-01-23 at 09:30, Darren Martz wrote:
I have 8 lines coming into an existing PBX system and am looking
for a cost
effective way to replace the existing system with Asterisk. We
need some of
the features in Asterisk, including its ability to support remote
offices (long distance savings).
   
At first glance this appears to require a T100P card and a channel
bank, but
that seems rather expensive. My estimated price on that would be
roughly $2600 for 8 lines given that system - perhaps my estimate
is way off
   
Is there another way that is more cost effective?
  
   That number sounds about right. It is likely that it will be less,
   but budgeting that much for hardware is a good start.
  
  Do you have to continue to use the existing handsets? You should look
  at replacing the existing phones with SIP phones.
 
 He did say cost-effective.  Last I checked, 24 SIP phones (unless they
 are Grandstreams) will cost far more than a channel bank.
 
 -Tilghman
 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach

2004-01-31 Thread Rob Fugina
On Sat, Jan 31, 2004 at 12:00:49PM -0800, Asterisk wrote:
 How about a 16 port FXO/FXS card (your choice of FXO/FXS modules or any
 mix of them) for $999. Will that be a good option?

I know (me) someone (me) who'd make a (me) really good (me) beta tester (me)...

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach

2004-01-31 Thread Sean Cheesman
well quit with the suspense already and tell us who!  :-)

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On Sat, Jan 31, 2004 at 12:00:49PM -0800, Asterisk wrote:
 How about a 16 port FXO/FXS card (your choice of FXO/FXS modules or 
 any mix of them) for $999. Will that be a good option?

I know (me) someone (me) who'd make a (me) really good (me) beta tester
(me)...

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach

2004-01-31 Thread Jim Thompson

Rob Fugina writes:
 On Sat, Jan 31, 2004 at 12:00:49PM -0800, Asterisk wrote:
  How about a 16 port FXO/FXS card (your choice of FXO/FXS modules or any
  mix of them) for $999. Will that be a good option?
 
 I know (me) someone (me) who'd make a (me) really good (me) beta tester (me)...

I know someone else (me) who would buy them (me).

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach

2004-01-31 Thread Asterisk
Thanks for the overwhelming response guys. Just wait for some time (6
weeks) and some of you will get to test it for sure. Watch out this
mailing list for the announcement. For now, let's keep it a little
secret.


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Rob Fugina writes:
 On Sat, Jan 31, 2004 at 12:00:49PM -0800, Asterisk wrote:
  How about a 16 port FXO/FXS card (your choice of FXO/FXS modules or
any
  mix of them) for $999. Will that be a good option?
 
 I know (me) someone (me) who'd make a (me) really good (me) beta
tester (me)...

I know someone else (me) who would buy them (me).

-- 
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach

2004-01-24 Thread Kostur, Andre
Title: RE: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach





Hey neighbour! I'll be posting on here what sort of experience we'll have with 8 (actually 10) incoming FXO lines going to a Vegastream gateway...

 -Original Message-
 From: Darren Martz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 6:10 PM
 To: Chris Albertson; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach
 
 
 Thanks Chris!!
 
 Running copper does not seem logical to me either. The last 
 time I checked
 (Sept03), the cost of 8 lines in a T1 was almost double the 
 cost of split
 lines.
 
 I have been considering NuFone, and have investigated it. We 
 have also been
 looking for a decent IP based business phone, but I'll post a separate
 question for that :)
 
 I have three businesses all with the same problem. A decent 
 T1 price would
 be the best, so I could centralize everything and only 
 outsource the long
 distance side.
 
 I'm in Vancouver, BC Canada with the Telus Inc monopoly.
 What range of prices do most American telco's charge for a T1??
 
 The price (in C$) I was quoted was $450/m plus $27/m per 
 voice channel with
 zero features. Plus there was a $1200 setup fee.
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Chris Albertson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Darren Martz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 8:49 AM
 Subject: Fwd: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach
 
 
 
 
 First get rid of those 8 analog lines. then you'l have
 two options:
 
 1) Have the local phone company provide you with a T1 line
 that you can plug directly into the Digium card. After all
 it seems silly for ther phone company to split out the lines
 to 8 pairs runs 16 coppr wires only to have you re-combine
 them.
 
 2) Get 8 DID numbers from a VOIP provider like NuFone or
 Iconnect and have all your incomming calls come in over
 your Internet link. Now yu've got zero hardawre, except for
 the PC.
 
 I suppose you would want local extensions... Depending on
 the numbr you might want a channel bank and anlog desk phones
 or go with all IP Phones
 
 
 
 
 --- Darren Martz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  From: Darren Martz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach
  Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 07:30:42 -0800
 
  I have 8 lines coming into an existing PBX system and am looking for
  a cost
  effective way to replace the existing system with Asterisk. We need
  some of
  the features in Asterisk, including its ability to support remote
  offices
  (long distance savings).
 
  At first glance this appears to require a T100P card and a channel
  bank, but
  that seems rather expensive. My estimated price on that would be
  roughly
  $2600 for 8 lines given that system - perhaps my estimate is way
  off
 
  Is there another way that is more cost effective?
 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach

2004-01-24 Thread David Liu
Title: RE: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach



Vegastream is a good choice. And it is 
tested to work with Primus' SIP platform. Only $2212 with 10 
FXO.

David

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Kostur, 
  Andre 
  To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' 
  
  Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2004 12:06 
  AM
  Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - 
  best approach
  
  Hey neighbour! I'll be posting on here what sort 
  of experience we'll have with 8 (actually 10) incoming FXO lines going to a 
  Vegastream gateway...
   -Original Message-  
  From: Darren Martz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
   Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 6:10 PM  To: Chris Albertson; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best 
  approach   
   Thanks Chris!!  
   Running copper does not seem logical to me 
  either. The last  time I checked  (Sept03), the cost of 8 lines in a T1 was almost double the 
   cost of split  
  lines.   I have been 
  considering NuFone, and have investigated it. We  
  have also been  looking for a decent IP based 
  business phone, but I'll post a separate  question 
  for that :)   I have 
  three businesses all with the same problem. A decent  T1 price would  be the best, so I 
  could centralize everything and only  outsource 
  the long  distance side.   I'm in Vancouver, BC Canada with the 
  "Telus Inc" monopoly.  What range of prices do 
  most American telco's charge for a T1??  
   The price (in C$) I was quoted was $450/m plus 
  $27/m per  voice channel with  zero features. Plus there was a $1200 setup fee.- 
  Original Message -  From: "Chris Albertson" 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  To: "Darren 
  Martz" [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Sent: Friday, 
  January 23, 2004 8:49 AM  Subject: Fwd: 
  [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach  
  First get rid of those 8 analog 
  lines. then you'l have  two options: 
1) Have the local phone 
  company provide you with a T1 line  that you can 
  plug directly into the Digium card. After all  it seems silly for ther phone company to split out the 
  lines  to 8 pairs runs 16 coppr wires only to have 
  you re-combine  them.  
   2) Get 8 DID numbers from a VOIP provider like 
  NuFone or  Iconnect and have all your incomming 
  calls come in over  your Internet link. Now 
  yu've got zero hardawre, except for  the 
  PC.   I suppose you 
  would want local extensions... Depending on  
  the numbr you might want a channel bank and anlog desk phones  or go with all IP Phones  
  --- Darren Martz 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   From: 
  "Darren Martz" [EMAIL PROTECTED]   
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   
  Subject: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach  
   Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 07:30:42 -0800  
 I have 8 lines coming into an existing 
  PBX system and am looking for   a cost 
effective way to replace the existing system with 
  Asterisk. We need   some of   the features in Asterisk, including its ability to support 
  remote   offices  
   (long distance savings).   
At first glance this appears to require a T100P 
  card and a channel   bank, but 
that seems rather expensive. My estimated price on 
  that would be   roughly   $2600 for 8 lines given that system - perhaps my estimate is 
  way   off  
 Is there another way that is more cost 
  effective? 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach

2004-01-24 Thread Tilghman Lesher
On Friday 23 January 2004 12:18, Paul Mahler wrote:
 On Friday, January 23, 2004 at 8:04 AM, Steven Critchfield wrote:
  On Fri, 2004-01-23 at 09:30, Darren Martz wrote:
   I have 8 lines coming into an existing PBX system and am looking
   for a cost
   effective way to replace the existing system with Asterisk. We
   need some of
   the features in Asterisk, including its ability to support remote
   offices (long distance savings).
  
   At first glance this appears to require a T100P card and a channel
   bank, but
   that seems rather expensive. My estimated price on that would be
   roughly $2600 for 8 lines given that system - perhaps my estimate
   is way off
  
   Is there another way that is more cost effective?
 
  That number sounds about right. It is likely that it will be less,
  but budgeting that much for hardware is a good start.
 
 Do you have to continue to use the existing handsets? You should look
 at replacing the existing phones with SIP phones.

He did say cost-effective.  Last I checked, 24 SIP phones (unless they
are Grandstreams) will cost far more than a channel bank.

-Tilghman

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach

2004-01-23 Thread Steven Critchfield
On Fri, 2004-01-23 at 09:30, Darren Martz wrote:
 I have 8 lines coming into an existing PBX system and am looking for a cost
 effective way to replace the existing system with Asterisk. We need some of
 the features in Asterisk, including its ability to support remote offices
 (long distance savings).
 
 At first glance this appears to require a T100P card and a channel bank, but
 that seems rather expensive. My estimated price on that would be roughly
 $2600 for 8 lines given that system - perhaps my estimate is way off
 
 Is there another way that is more cost effective?

That number sounds about right. It is likely that it will be less, but
budgeting that much for hardware is a good start.
-- 
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach

2004-01-23 Thread Kostur, Andre
Title: RE: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach





One solution that we're investigating is using a gateway product instead of a channel bank.


There's a couple to choose from...take a look at http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-VoIP+Gateways


Sounds like you want one of the FXO devices. We haven't actually purchased ours yet, but we're looking into buying one of the Vegastream 50 Analog units. 10 incoming FXO ports. Saves us the cost of a proper channel bank, and a T1 card for the * server.

I'm not recommending them specifically (just an example... you may be able to get better prices from other resellers), but Atacomm (http://www.atacomm.com) lists the price of a Vega 50 FXO at $2350, a Multitech MVP810 at $2999, AudioCodes MP108 FXO at $1429. (US $)

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 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach
 
 
 I have 8 lines coming into an existing PBX system and am 
 looking for a cost
 effective way to replace the existing system with Asterisk. 
 We need some of
 the features in Asterisk, including its ability to support 
 remote offices
 (long distance savings).
 
 At first glance this appears to require a T100P card and a 
 channel bank, but
 that seems rather expensive. My estimated price on that would 
 be roughly
 $2600 for 8 lines given that system - perhaps my estimate is 
 way off
 
 Is there another way that is more cost effective?
 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach

2004-01-23 Thread John Baker
Title: RE: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach



Two Voicetronix Openline 4 port FXO cards would do 
the trick. They run about $550 each.

John

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  From: 
  Kostur, 
  Andre 
  To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' 
  
  Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 10:40 
  AM
  Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - 
  best approach
  
  One solution that we're investigating is using a gateway 
  product instead of a channel bank. 
  There's a couple to choose from...take a look at http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-VoIP+Gateways 
  Sounds like you want one of the FXO devices. We 
  haven't actually purchased ours yet, but we're looking into buying one of the 
  Vegastream 50 Analog units. 10 incoming FXO ports. Saves us the 
  cost of a proper channel bank, and a T1 card for the * server.
  I'm not recommending them specifically (just an example... you 
  may be able to get better prices from other resellers), but Atacomm (http://www.atacomm.com) lists 
  the price of a Vega 50 FXO at $2350, a Multitech MVP810 at $2999, AudioCodes 
  MP108 FXO at $1429. (US $)
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  From: Darren Martz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
   Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 7:31 AM  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
  Subject: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach  
I have 8 lines 
  coming into an existing PBX system and am  looking 
  for a cost  effective way to replace the existing 
  system with Asterisk.  We need some of 
   the features in Asterisk, including its ability to 
  support  remote offices  (long distance savings).  
   At first glance this appears to require a T100P 
  card and a  channel bank, but  that seems rather expensive. My estimated price on that would 
   be roughly  $2600 for 
  8 lines given that system - perhaps my estimate is  way off   Is there another way that is more cost effective?   
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach

2004-01-23 Thread Rich Adamson

 Two Voicetronix Openline 4 port FXO cards would do the trick.  They run about $550 
 each.

Their web site does not mention asterisk drivers. Is this card supported?

Any idea how it compares to a pair of external Mediatrix 1204 Sip FXO boxes?



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RE: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach

2004-01-23 Thread Paul Mahler
Do you have to continue to use the existing handsets? You should look at
replacing the existing phones with SIP phones. 

 
Paul Mahler 
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On Fri, 2004-01-23 at 09:30, Darren Martz wrote:
 I have 8 lines coming into an existing PBX system and am looking for a
cost
 effective way to replace the existing system with Asterisk. We need some
of
 the features in Asterisk, including its ability to support remote offices
 (long distance savings).
 
 At first glance this appears to require a T100P card and a channel bank,
but
 that seems rather expensive. My estimated price on that would be roughly
 $2600 for 8 lines given that system - perhaps my estimate is way off
 
 Is there another way that is more cost effective?

That number sounds about right. It is likely that it will be less, but
budgeting that much for hardware is a good start.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach

2004-01-23 Thread John Baker
It is supported.  chan_vpb is the Voicetronix driver and I believe the
asterisk file that deals with this is vpb.conf.  Look in this month's
mailing list archives for one user's (successful) experiences with this
card.

I have no idea about the comparison to Mediatrix.

You do have the sip phones on the backend of this, right?

John

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  Two Voicetronix Openline 4 port FXO cards would do the trick.  They run
about $550 each.

 Their web site does not mention asterisk drivers. Is this card supported?

 Any idea how it compares to a pair of external Mediatrix 1204 Sip FXO
boxes?



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Re: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach

2004-01-23 Thread Jorge Mendoza
Rich Adamson wrote:
Two Voicetronix Openline 4 port FXO cards would do the trick.  They run about $550 each.


Their web site does not mention asterisk drivers. Is this card supported?

The drivers are for Linux. Yes the card is supported. See vpb.conf.

Any idea how it compares to a pair of external Mediatrix 1204 Sip FXO boxes?
I have no tested Mediatrix. But with Multitech 8 ports, I do not see any 
difference from the FXO point of view.

Jorge

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach

2004-01-23 Thread Darren Martz
Thanks James!!

The last quote I received from our local provider was had PRI at double the
cost per line. The access charge was a major factor in the base cost.
Alternative providers were more, even with using all 23 channels POTS was
still cheaper than a T1. It doesn't make sense to me, but who ever said
telco's made sense???

I will call again on Monday.

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 Darren == Darren Martz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Darren Is there another way that is more cost effective?

Get a quote on an 8 trunk voice T1 and on an 8B+D pri from your
telco -- and any clecs in the area.

If it is competative you may not need the channel bank

-JimC


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach

2004-01-23 Thread Darren Martz
Thanks Chris!!

Running copper does not seem logical to me either. The last time I checked
(Sept03), the cost of 8 lines in a T1 was almost double the cost of split
lines.

I have been considering NuFone, and have investigated it. We have also been
looking for a decent IP based business phone, but I'll post a separate
question for that :)

I have three businesses all with the same problem. A decent T1 price would
be the best, so I could centralize everything and only outsource the long
distance side.

I'm in Vancouver, BC Canada with the Telus Inc monopoly.
What range of prices do most American telco's charge for a T1??

The price (in C$) I was quoted was $450/m plus $27/m per voice channel with
zero features. Plus there was a $1200 setup fee.


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Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 8:49 AM
Subject: Fwd: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach




First get rid of those 8 analog lines.  then you'l have
two options:

1) Have the local phone company provide you with a T1 line
that you can plug directly into the Digium card.  After all
it seems silly for ther phone company to split out the lines
to 8 pairs runs 16 coppr wires only to have you re-combine
them.

2) Get 8 DID numbers from a VOIP provider like NuFone or
Iconnect and have all your incomming calls come in over
your Internet link.  Now yu've got zero hardawre, except for
the PC.

I suppose you would want local extensions...  Depending on
the numbr you might want a channel bank and anlog desk phones
or go with all IP Phones




--- Darren Martz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 From: Darren Martz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach
 Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 07:30:42 -0800

 I have 8 lines coming into an existing PBX system and am looking for
 a cost
 effective way to replace the existing system with Asterisk. We need
 some of
 the features in Asterisk, including its ability to support remote
 offices
 (long distance savings).

 At first glance this appears to require a T100P card and a channel
 bank, but
 that seems rather expensive. My estimated price on that would be
 roughly
 $2600 for 8 lines given that system - perhaps my estimate is way
 off

 Is there another way that is more cost effective?

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