RE: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach
The problem is when replacing a Nortel system. The existing phones become useless, so we're looking at either using totally IP based phones or using a channel bank with different office phones. The only problem is finding an IP phone that is decent for business, supports multiple lines (at least 2) and is reasonably priced. This is more difficult than I expected. The voip-info.org site has excellent information, but it seems to show the IP phone coverage is still in the early adopter stage. Please correct me if my statement is wrong, I'd love for it to be wrong. My thinking is that most of us are looking for hardware based IP Phone's that work well with Asterisk and begin to go beyond the traditional business phone. So my first step is to find the most cost effective way to utilize our traditional lines and move on from there. Cheers, Darren -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tilghman Lesher Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2004 5:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach On Friday 23 January 2004 12:18, Paul Mahler wrote: On Friday, January 23, 2004 at 8:04 AM, Steven Critchfield wrote: On Fri, 2004-01-23 at 09:30, Darren Martz wrote: I have 8 lines coming into an existing PBX system and am looking for a cost effective way to replace the existing system with Asterisk. We need some of the features in Asterisk, including its ability to support remote offices (long distance savings). At first glance this appears to require a T100P card and a channel bank, but that seems rather expensive. My estimated price on that would be roughly $2600 for 8 lines given that system - perhaps my estimate is way off Is there another way that is more cost effective? That number sounds about right. It is likely that it will be less, but budgeting that much for hardware is a good start. Do you have to continue to use the existing handsets? You should look at replacing the existing phones with SIP phones. He did say cost-effective. Last I checked, 24 SIP phones (unless they are Grandstreams) will cost far more than a channel bank. -Tilghman ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach
Will this product be available in the next few weeks? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Asterisk Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 3:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach How about a 16 port FXO/FXS card (your choice of FXO/FXS modules or any mix of them) for $999. Will that be a good option? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tilghman Lesher Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2004 5:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach On Friday 23 January 2004 12:18, Paul Mahler wrote: On Friday, January 23, 2004 at 8:04 AM, Steven Critchfield wrote: On Fri, 2004-01-23 at 09:30, Darren Martz wrote: I have 8 lines coming into an existing PBX system and am looking for a cost effective way to replace the existing system with Asterisk. We need some of the features in Asterisk, including its ability to support remote offices (long distance savings). At first glance this appears to require a T100P card and a channel bank, but that seems rather expensive. My estimated price on that would be roughly $2600 for 8 lines given that system - perhaps my estimate is way off Is there another way that is more cost effective? That number sounds about right. It is likely that it will be less, but budgeting that much for hardware is a good start. Do you have to continue to use the existing handsets? You should look at replacing the existing phones with SIP phones. He did say cost-effective. Last I checked, 24 SIP phones (unless they are Grandstreams) will cost far more than a channel bank. -Tilghman ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach
How about a 16 port FXO/FXS card (your choice of FXO/FXS modules or any mix of them) for $999. Will that be a good option? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tilghman Lesher Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2004 5:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach On Friday 23 January 2004 12:18, Paul Mahler wrote: On Friday, January 23, 2004 at 8:04 AM, Steven Critchfield wrote: On Fri, 2004-01-23 at 09:30, Darren Martz wrote: I have 8 lines coming into an existing PBX system and am looking for a cost effective way to replace the existing system with Asterisk. We need some of the features in Asterisk, including its ability to support remote offices (long distance savings). At first glance this appears to require a T100P card and a channel bank, but that seems rather expensive. My estimated price on that would be roughly $2600 for 8 lines given that system - perhaps my estimate is way off Is there another way that is more cost effective? That number sounds about right. It is likely that it will be less, but budgeting that much for hardware is a good start. Do you have to continue to use the existing handsets? You should look at replacing the existing phones with SIP phones. He did say cost-effective. Last I checked, 24 SIP phones (unless they are Grandstreams) will cost far more than a channel bank. -Tilghman ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach
What card would that be? I would be interested to test it out. David - Original Message - From: Asterisk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 12:00 PM Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach How about a 16 port FXO/FXS card (your choice of FXO/FXS modules or any mix of them) for $999. Will that be a good option? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tilghman Lesher Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2004 5:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach On Friday 23 January 2004 12:18, Paul Mahler wrote: On Friday, January 23, 2004 at 8:04 AM, Steven Critchfield wrote: On Fri, 2004-01-23 at 09:30, Darren Martz wrote: I have 8 lines coming into an existing PBX system and am looking for a cost effective way to replace the existing system with Asterisk. We need some of the features in Asterisk, including its ability to support remote offices (long distance savings). At first glance this appears to require a T100P card and a channel bank, but that seems rather expensive. My estimated price on that would be roughly $2600 for 8 lines given that system - perhaps my estimate is way off Is there another way that is more cost effective? That number sounds about right. It is likely that it will be less, but budgeting that much for hardware is a good start. Do you have to continue to use the existing handsets? You should look at replacing the existing phones with SIP phones. He did say cost-effective. Last I checked, 24 SIP phones (unless they are Grandstreams) will cost far more than a channel bank. -Tilghman ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach
On Sat, Jan 31, 2004 at 12:00:49PM -0800, Asterisk wrote: How about a 16 port FXO/FXS card (your choice of FXO/FXS modules or any mix of them) for $999. Will that be a good option? I know (me) someone (me) who'd make a (me) really good (me) beta tester (me)... -- Rob Fugina, Systems Guy [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.geekthing.com My firewall filters MS Office attachments. Behind every good computer - is a jumble of wire. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach
well quit with the suspense already and tell us who! :-) -Original Message- From: Rob Fugina [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 7:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach On Sat, Jan 31, 2004 at 12:00:49PM -0800, Asterisk wrote: How about a 16 port FXO/FXS card (your choice of FXO/FXS modules or any mix of them) for $999. Will that be a good option? I know (me) someone (me) who'd make a (me) really good (me) beta tester (me)... -- Rob Fugina, Systems Guy [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.geekthing.com My firewall filters MS Office attachments. Behind every good computer - is a jumble of wire. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach
Rob Fugina writes: On Sat, Jan 31, 2004 at 12:00:49PM -0800, Asterisk wrote: How about a 16 port FXO/FXS card (your choice of FXO/FXS modules or any mix of them) for $999. Will that be a good option? I know (me) someone (me) who'd make a (me) really good (me) beta tester (me)... I know someone else (me) who would buy them (me). -- Speed, it seems to me, provides the one genuinely modern pleasure. -- Aldous Huxley (1894 - 1963) ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach
Thanks for the overwhelming response guys. Just wait for some time (6 weeks) and some of you will get to test it for sure. Watch out this mailing list for the announcement. For now, let's keep it a little secret. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Thompson Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 5:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach Rob Fugina writes: On Sat, Jan 31, 2004 at 12:00:49PM -0800, Asterisk wrote: How about a 16 port FXO/FXS card (your choice of FXO/FXS modules or any mix of them) for $999. Will that be a good option? I know (me) someone (me) who'd make a (me) really good (me) beta tester (me)... I know someone else (me) who would buy them (me). -- Speed, it seems to me, provides the one genuinely modern pleasure. -- Aldous Huxley (1894 - 1963) ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach
Title: RE: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach Hey neighbour! I'll be posting on here what sort of experience we'll have with 8 (actually 10) incoming FXO lines going to a Vegastream gateway... -Original Message- From: Darren Martz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 6:10 PM To: Chris Albertson; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach Thanks Chris!! Running copper does not seem logical to me either. The last time I checked (Sept03), the cost of 8 lines in a T1 was almost double the cost of split lines. I have been considering NuFone, and have investigated it. We have also been looking for a decent IP based business phone, but I'll post a separate question for that :) I have three businesses all with the same problem. A decent T1 price would be the best, so I could centralize everything and only outsource the long distance side. I'm in Vancouver, BC Canada with the Telus Inc monopoly. What range of prices do most American telco's charge for a T1?? The price (in C$) I was quoted was $450/m plus $27/m per voice channel with zero features. Plus there was a $1200 setup fee. - Original Message - From: Chris Albertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Darren Martz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 8:49 AM Subject: Fwd: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach First get rid of those 8 analog lines. then you'l have two options: 1) Have the local phone company provide you with a T1 line that you can plug directly into the Digium card. After all it seems silly for ther phone company to split out the lines to 8 pairs runs 16 coppr wires only to have you re-combine them. 2) Get 8 DID numbers from a VOIP provider like NuFone or Iconnect and have all your incomming calls come in over your Internet link. Now yu've got zero hardawre, except for the PC. I suppose you would want local extensions... Depending on the numbr you might want a channel bank and anlog desk phones or go with all IP Phones --- Darren Martz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Darren Martz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 07:30:42 -0800 I have 8 lines coming into an existing PBX system and am looking for a cost effective way to replace the existing system with Asterisk. We need some of the features in Asterisk, including its ability to support remote offices (long distance savings). At first glance this appears to require a T100P card and a channel bank, but that seems rather expensive. My estimated price on that would be roughly $2600 for 8 lines given that system - perhaps my estimate is way off Is there another way that is more cost effective? ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users = Chris Albertson Home: 310-376-1029 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 310-990-7550 Office: 310-336-5189 [EMAIL PROTECTED] KG6OMK __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/ ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach
Title: RE: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach Vegastream is a good choice. And it is tested to work with Primus' SIP platform. Only $2212 with 10 FXO. David - Original Message - From: Kostur, Andre To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2004 12:06 AM Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach Hey neighbour! I'll be posting on here what sort of experience we'll have with 8 (actually 10) incoming FXO lines going to a Vegastream gateway... -Original Message- From: Darren Martz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 6:10 PM To: Chris Albertson; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach Thanks Chris!! Running copper does not seem logical to me either. The last time I checked (Sept03), the cost of 8 lines in a T1 was almost double the cost of split lines. I have been considering NuFone, and have investigated it. We have also been looking for a decent IP based business phone, but I'll post a separate question for that :) I have three businesses all with the same problem. A decent T1 price would be the best, so I could centralize everything and only outsource the long distance side. I'm in Vancouver, BC Canada with the "Telus Inc" monopoly. What range of prices do most American telco's charge for a T1?? The price (in C$) I was quoted was $450/m plus $27/m per voice channel with zero features. Plus there was a $1200 setup fee.- Original Message - From: "Chris Albertson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Darren Martz" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 8:49 AM Subject: Fwd: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach First get rid of those 8 analog lines. then you'l have two options: 1) Have the local phone company provide you with a T1 line that you can plug directly into the Digium card. After all it seems silly for ther phone company to split out the lines to 8 pairs runs 16 coppr wires only to have you re-combine them. 2) Get 8 DID numbers from a VOIP provider like NuFone or Iconnect and have all your incomming calls come in over your Internet link. Now yu've got zero hardawre, except for the PC. I suppose you would want local extensions... Depending on the numbr you might want a channel bank and anlog desk phones or go with all IP Phones --- Darren Martz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: "Darren Martz" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 07:30:42 -0800 I have 8 lines coming into an existing PBX system and am looking for a cost effective way to replace the existing system with Asterisk. We need some of the features in Asterisk, including its ability to support remote offices (long distance savings). At first glance this appears to require a T100P card and a channel bank, but that seems rather expensive. My estimated price on that would be roughly $2600 for 8 lines given that system - perhaps my estimate is way off Is there another way that is more cost effective? ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users = Chris Albertson Home: 310-376-1029 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 310-990-7550 Office: 310-336-5189 [EMAIL PROTECTED] KG6OMK __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/ ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach
On Friday 23 January 2004 12:18, Paul Mahler wrote: On Friday, January 23, 2004 at 8:04 AM, Steven Critchfield wrote: On Fri, 2004-01-23 at 09:30, Darren Martz wrote: I have 8 lines coming into an existing PBX system and am looking for a cost effective way to replace the existing system with Asterisk. We need some of the features in Asterisk, including its ability to support remote offices (long distance savings). At first glance this appears to require a T100P card and a channel bank, but that seems rather expensive. My estimated price on that would be roughly $2600 for 8 lines given that system - perhaps my estimate is way off Is there another way that is more cost effective? That number sounds about right. It is likely that it will be less, but budgeting that much for hardware is a good start. Do you have to continue to use the existing handsets? You should look at replacing the existing phones with SIP phones. He did say cost-effective. Last I checked, 24 SIP phones (unless they are Grandstreams) will cost far more than a channel bank. -Tilghman ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach
On Fri, 2004-01-23 at 09:30, Darren Martz wrote: I have 8 lines coming into an existing PBX system and am looking for a cost effective way to replace the existing system with Asterisk. We need some of the features in Asterisk, including its ability to support remote offices (long distance savings). At first glance this appears to require a T100P card and a channel bank, but that seems rather expensive. My estimated price on that would be roughly $2600 for 8 lines given that system - perhaps my estimate is way off Is there another way that is more cost effective? That number sounds about right. It is likely that it will be less, but budgeting that much for hardware is a good start. -- Steven Critchfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach
Title: RE: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach One solution that we're investigating is using a gateway product instead of a channel bank. There's a couple to choose from...take a look at http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-VoIP+Gateways Sounds like you want one of the FXO devices. We haven't actually purchased ours yet, but we're looking into buying one of the Vegastream 50 Analog units. 10 incoming FXO ports. Saves us the cost of a proper channel bank, and a T1 card for the * server. I'm not recommending them specifically (just an example... you may be able to get better prices from other resellers), but Atacomm (http://www.atacomm.com) lists the price of a Vega 50 FXO at $2350, a Multitech MVP810 at $2999, AudioCodes MP108 FXO at $1429. (US $) -Original Message- From: Darren Martz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 7:31 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach I have 8 lines coming into an existing PBX system and am looking for a cost effective way to replace the existing system with Asterisk. We need some of the features in Asterisk, including its ability to support remote offices (long distance savings). At first glance this appears to require a T100P card and a channel bank, but that seems rather expensive. My estimated price on that would be roughly $2600 for 8 lines given that system - perhaps my estimate is way off Is there another way that is more cost effective? ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach
Title: RE: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach Two Voicetronix Openline 4 port FXO cards would do the trick. They run about $550 each. John - Original Message - From: Kostur, Andre To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 10:40 AM Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach One solution that we're investigating is using a gateway product instead of a channel bank. There's a couple to choose from...take a look at http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-VoIP+Gateways Sounds like you want one of the FXO devices. We haven't actually purchased ours yet, but we're looking into buying one of the Vegastream 50 Analog units. 10 incoming FXO ports. Saves us the cost of a proper channel bank, and a T1 card for the * server. I'm not recommending them specifically (just an example... you may be able to get better prices from other resellers), but Atacomm (http://www.atacomm.com) lists the price of a Vega 50 FXO at $2350, a Multitech MVP810 at $2999, AudioCodes MP108 FXO at $1429. (US $) -Original Message- From: Darren Martz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 7:31 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach I have 8 lines coming into an existing PBX system and am looking for a cost effective way to replace the existing system with Asterisk. We need some of the features in Asterisk, including its ability to support remote offices (long distance savings). At first glance this appears to require a T100P card and a channel bank, but that seems rather expensive. My estimated price on that would be roughly $2600 for 8 lines given that system - perhaps my estimate is way off Is there another way that is more cost effective? ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach
Two Voicetronix Openline 4 port FXO cards would do the trick. They run about $550 each. Their web site does not mention asterisk drivers. Is this card supported? Any idea how it compares to a pair of external Mediatrix 1204 Sip FXO boxes? ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach
Do you have to continue to use the existing handsets? You should look at replacing the existing phones with SIP phones. Paul Mahler mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 650.207.9855 fax: 877.408.0105 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steven Critchfield Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 8:04 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach On Fri, 2004-01-23 at 09:30, Darren Martz wrote: I have 8 lines coming into an existing PBX system and am looking for a cost effective way to replace the existing system with Asterisk. We need some of the features in Asterisk, including its ability to support remote offices (long distance savings). At first glance this appears to require a T100P card and a channel bank, but that seems rather expensive. My estimated price on that would be roughly $2600 for 8 lines given that system - perhaps my estimate is way off Is there another way that is more cost effective? That number sounds about right. It is likely that it will be less, but budgeting that much for hardware is a good start. -- Steven Critchfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach
It is supported. chan_vpb is the Voicetronix driver and I believe the asterisk file that deals with this is vpb.conf. Look in this month's mailing list archives for one user's (successful) experiences with this card. I have no idea about the comparison to Mediatrix. You do have the sip phones on the backend of this, right? John - Original Message - From: Rich Adamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 1:33 PM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach Two Voicetronix Openline 4 port FXO cards would do the trick. They run about $550 each. Their web site does not mention asterisk drivers. Is this card supported? Any idea how it compares to a pair of external Mediatrix 1204 Sip FXO boxes? ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach
Rich Adamson wrote: Two Voicetronix Openline 4 port FXO cards would do the trick. They run about $550 each. Their web site does not mention asterisk drivers. Is this card supported? The drivers are for Linux. Yes the card is supported. See vpb.conf. Any idea how it compares to a pair of external Mediatrix 1204 Sip FXO boxes? I have no tested Mediatrix. But with Multitech 8 ports, I do not see any difference from the FXO point of view. Jorge ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach
Thanks James!! The last quote I received from our local provider was had PRI at double the cost per line. The access charge was a major factor in the base cost. Alternative providers were more, even with using all 23 channels POTS was still cheaper than a T1. It doesn't make sense to me, but who ever said telco's made sense??? I will call again on Monday. - Original Message - From: James H. Cloos Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Darren Martz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 11:21 AM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach Darren == Darren Martz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Darren Is there another way that is more cost effective? Get a quote on an 8 trunk voice T1 and on an 8B+D pri from your telco -- and any clecs in the area. If it is competative you may not need the channel bank -JimC ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach
Thanks Chris!! Running copper does not seem logical to me either. The last time I checked (Sept03), the cost of 8 lines in a T1 was almost double the cost of split lines. I have been considering NuFone, and have investigated it. We have also been looking for a decent IP based business phone, but I'll post a separate question for that :) I have three businesses all with the same problem. A decent T1 price would be the best, so I could centralize everything and only outsource the long distance side. I'm in Vancouver, BC Canada with the Telus Inc monopoly. What range of prices do most American telco's charge for a T1?? The price (in C$) I was quoted was $450/m plus $27/m per voice channel with zero features. Plus there was a $1200 setup fee. - Original Message - From: Chris Albertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Darren Martz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 8:49 AM Subject: Fwd: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach First get rid of those 8 analog lines. then you'l have two options: 1) Have the local phone company provide you with a T1 line that you can plug directly into the Digium card. After all it seems silly for ther phone company to split out the lines to 8 pairs runs 16 coppr wires only to have you re-combine them. 2) Get 8 DID numbers from a VOIP provider like NuFone or Iconnect and have all your incomming calls come in over your Internet link. Now yu've got zero hardawre, except for the PC. I suppose you would want local extensions... Depending on the numbr you might want a channel bank and anlog desk phones or go with all IP Phones --- Darren Martz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Darren Martz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Asterisk-Users] 8 lines - best approach Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 07:30:42 -0800 I have 8 lines coming into an existing PBX system and am looking for a cost effective way to replace the existing system with Asterisk. We need some of the features in Asterisk, including its ability to support remote offices (long distance savings). At first glance this appears to require a T100P card and a channel bank, but that seems rather expensive. My estimated price on that would be roughly $2600 for 8 lines given that system - perhaps my estimate is way off Is there another way that is more cost effective? ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users = Chris Albertson Home: 310-376-1029 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 310-990-7550 Office: 310-336-5189 [EMAIL PROTECTED] KG6OMK __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/ ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users