Re: [Asterisk-Users] BRI in the US?
Not sure if this is a helpful answer, but we have looked and haven't come across anything yet for the US. Curious to see if you get any other responses. -- Jonathan Moore Director of Technology Winfield Public Schools Office 620.221.5100 Fax 620.221.0508 Quoting Michael Graves [EMAIL PROTECTED]: OK, I asked this about a week back and met with no repsonse at all. But perhaps its worth trying again. Does anyone on-list have * running BRI to their local telco? I'm considering this as an alternative to my TDM400p card. Michael -- Michael Graves [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sr. Product Specialist www.pixelpower.com Pixel Power Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] o713-861-4005 o800-905-6412 c713-201-1262 ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users Visit Winfield Public Schools at http://usd465.com - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] BRI in the US?
Michael Graves wrote: Does anyone on-list have * running BRI to their local telco? I'm considering this as an alternative to my TDM400p card. I've had BRI at a client site (eight of them in fact, used as trunk service for a Norstar MICS), but not connected to Asterisk. BRI in the US is a pain to deal with: their is no number portability into BRI services (at least in Qwest territory, you can port numbers out, though), setting up hunting and other advanced features on the telco side is difficult because they have so few people who understand it... It could be a useful alternative to analog lines/cards (and maybe even cheaper), but you're putting yourself in a position of using a product that the telcos really don't want to sell any longer and have difficulty supporting well. If it works for you then it will be a very good thing, but if it doesn't then you'll have a hard time getting it fixed. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] BRI in the US?
OK, I asked this about a week back and met with no repsonse at all. But perhaps its worth trying again. Does anyone on-list have * running BRI to their local telco? I'm considering this as an alternative to my TDM400p card. No, and I've been looking for this for a while now. I'm seriously considering running them into a Cisco 26XX with a ISDN VIC BRI card and seeing if that works. This one bit of the puzzle is the big thing stopping us from going to a VoIP solution, which I'd really like to do. I've even tried things like hooking up a Sipura 3000 to the POTS ports on a Netgear RT338, but that doesn't work reliably, since the Sipura seems to have some trouble detecting line state properly (probably the Netgear's *fault*, but it works fine with our analog phones). ... JG -- Joe Greco - sol.net Network Services - Milwaukee, WI - http://www.sol.net We call it the 'one bite at the apple' rule. Give me one chance [and] then I won't contact you again. - Direct Marketing Ass'n position on e-mail spam(CNN) With 24 million small businesses in the US alone, that's way too many apples. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] BRI in the US?
I see rates for BRIs in the state tariffs here in Texas. When I speak with SBC they are willing to sell them, but say that they are usually installed for pure data applications where DSL in not available. The rates seem comparable to POTS if you consider calling features extra on POTS lines. I'm unclear if there is US compatible hardware/drivers for *. Michael On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 10:59:20 -0600, Jonathan Moore wrote: Not sure if this is a helpful answer, but we have looked and haven't come across anything yet for the US. Curious to see if you get any other responses. -- Jonathan Moore Director of Technology Winfield Public Schools Office 620.221.5100 Fax 620.221.0508 Quoting Michael Graves [EMAIL PROTECTED]: OK, I asked this about a week back and met with no repsonse at all. But perhaps its worth trying again. Does anyone on-list have * running BRI to their local telco? I'm considering this as an alternative to my TDM400p card. Michael -- Michael Graves [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sr. Product Specialist www.pixelpower.com Pixel Power Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] o713-861-4005 o800-905-6412 c713-201-1262 ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users Visit Winfield Public Schools at http://usd465.com - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Michael Graves [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sr. Product Specialist www.pixelpower.com Pixel Power Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] o713-861-4005 o800-905-6412 c713-201-1262 ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] BRI in the US?
On Fri, 4 Feb 2005, Joe Greco wrote: OK, I asked this about a week back and met with no repsonse at all. But perhaps its worth trying again. Does anyone on-list have * running BRI to their local telco? I'm considering this as an alternative to my TDM400p card. No, and I've been looking for this for a while now. I'm seriously considering running them into a Cisco 26XX with a ISDN VIC BRI card and seeing if that works. This one bit of the puzzle is the big thing stopping us from going to a VoIP solution, which I'd really like to do. I found this but haven't tried it yet: http://f64.nu/isp/atlas/ That is proof that with enough Adtran boxes you can do anything. -- Dave Weis I believe there are more instances of the abridgment [EMAIL PROTECTED] of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations.- James Madison ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] BRI in the US?
Michael Graves wrote: OK, I asked this about a week back and met with no repsonse at all. But perhaps its worth trying again. Does anyone on-list have * running BRI to their local telco? I'm considering this as an alternative to my TDM400p card. I had an HFC card and a BRI circuit from Qwest, but I would never make it work. As I recall, I could receive incoming calls but could never make outgoing calls. Had to do with SPID (service provisioning id?) was/is not supported in the software. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] BRI in the US
the horribly expensive EICON shit. Although if you just want to connect ISDN phones to asterisk you can use european ISDN phones with cards from Junghanns.net On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 14:10:07 -0600, Brian West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What cards will work with asterisk and BRI in the US? bkw ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Michael Bielicki ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] BRI in the US
Check this out www.bkw.org/pri.pdf That's what SBC charges for PRI here... it's the only option I have right now. bkw -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-users- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Bielicki Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 2:14 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] BRI in the US the horribly expensive EICON shit. Although if you just want to connect ISDN phones to asterisk you can use european ISDN phones with cards from Junghanns.net On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 14:10:07 -0600, Brian West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What cards will work with asterisk and BRI in the US? bkw ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Michael Bielicki ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] BRI in the US
Check this out www.bkw.org/pri.pdf That's what SBC charges for PRI here... it's the only option I have right now. Woww. I would say they're smokin' the crack. Are you sure they're the only option? There are a lot of CLEC's out in the US... I know a number of them that used to offer BRI no longer do, so if you are unable to obtain BRI via Sucky Bell Company, yeah, you may well not have a lot of other good options. (delete rant about how SBC has made BRI a noncompetitive offering in order to force people into PRI...) It's that sort of pricing which will ultimately drive a lot of stuff to VoIP. ... JG -- Joe Greco - sol.net Network Services - Milwaukee, WI - http://www.sol.net We call it the 'one bite at the apple' rule. Give me one chance [and] then I won't contact you again. - Direct Marketing Ass'n position on e-mail spam(CNN) With 24 million small businesses in the US alone, that's way too many apples. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] BRI in the US
Brian- I was quoted (verbally) something on the order of $60 per month for a single BRI by SBC in San Francisco about 60 days ago. I thought that was high.. Regards Scott Scott M. Stingel President, Emerging Voice Technology, Inc. Palo Alto California London England www.evtmedia.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian West Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 1:23 PM To: 'Michael Bielicki'; 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] BRI in the US Check this out www.bkw.org/pri.pdf That's what SBC charges for PRI here... it's the only option I have right now. bkw -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-users- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Bielicki Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 2:14 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] BRI in the US the horribly expensive EICON shit. Although if you just want to connect ISDN phones to asterisk you can use european ISDN phones with cards from Junghanns.net On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 14:10:07 -0600, Brian West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What cards will work with asterisk and BRI in the US? bkw ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Michael Bielicki ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] BRI in the US
Brian, Are you not able to get BRI where you are? Maybe the better question is what are you trying to acomplish? I've got a BRI in the house (with the horribly expensive Eicon sh*t that I paid 30 bucks for on ebay) Mike ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] BRI in the US
One goal is to get BRI support in Zaptel if possible. I'm right now in the planning stage :P Plus BRI is much cooler than pots. bkw -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-users- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Boger Jr Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 9:05 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] BRI in the US Brian, Are you not able to get BRI where you are? Maybe the better question is what are you trying to acomplish? I've got a BRI in the house (with the horribly expensive Eicon sh*t that I paid 30 bucks for on ebay) Mike ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] BRI in the US
Scott Stingel wrote: Brian- I was quoted (verbally) something on the order of $60 per month for a single BRI by SBC in San Francisco about 60 days ago. I thought that was high.. It has been a while, but the last BRI I ordered from BellSouth/Louisiana was about US$109/month. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] BRI in the US
Here I go lazily top posting: I pay around 55 bucks a month for the circuit. I noticed you had what appeared to be a quote for a PRI in an earlier post : 23b+d is a heckuva lot more expensive for sure than 2b+d. Regards, Mike - Original Message - From: Brian West [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 9:41 PM Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] BRI in the US One goal is to get BRI support in Zaptel if possible. I'm right now in the planning stage :P Plus BRI is much cooler than pots. bkw -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-users- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Boger Jr Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 9:05 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] BRI in the US Brian, Are you not able to get BRI where you are? Maybe the better question is what are you trying to acomplish? I've got a BRI in the house (with the horribly expensive Eicon sh*t that I paid 30 bucks for on ebay) Mike ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] BRI in the US
Scott Stingel wrote: Brian- I was quoted (verbally) something on the order of $60 per month for a single BRI by SBC in San Francisco about 60 days ago. I thought that was high.. It has been a while, but the last BRI I ordered from BellSouth/Louisiana was about US$109/month. We're paying about half that per BRI (SBC/Ameritech/Wisconsin Bell). I'll note that at least up here, pricing is very dependent on whether you use an ISDN ordering code (package) - ordering a circuit with the same features as a package can be twice as expensive as ordering the package. This pretty much puts you outta luck if what you need isn't offered as a standard ordering code. It's mildly more economical (and, yes, as someone else said, so much cooler) to bring in one BRI than two POTS lines with modest features like CID. Are you guys actually able to make US BRI's work? I'm interested in hearing more... we've been bringing in dialtone on ISDN for years because we're in an RF-intense area, but right now bridging the gap from ISDN to VoIP is a Netgear RT338 and some Sipura SPA3000's, and that setup doesn't work half as well as I'd like. I'd consider spending the money on a Cisco with BRI VIC cards if I knew for sure it'd work well, but I'd be more happy staying with a non-propietary solution. ... JG -- Joe Greco - sol.net Network Services - Milwaukee, WI - http://www.sol.net We call it the 'one bite at the apple' rule. Give me one chance [and] then I won't contact you again. - Direct Marketing Ass'n position on e-mail spam(CNN) With 24 million small businesses in the US alone, that's way too many apples. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] BRI in the US
[snip] I get PRI (23b+d) from Broadwing in Seattle area for $338/month, but we're colocated at their switch. If you want loops out to your own location add $600/month or so to Qwest for the T1 loops. -- Tom ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
