RE: [Asterisk-Users] CallerID Name problem

2006-05-01 Thread kevin ling
Hi,

What protocol for your 7960 phone? SCCP or SIP? You can turn on the SIP
debug on CLI to make sure the callerid and name pass to your phone. 

Kevin 

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Subject: [Asterisk-Users] CallerID Name problem

 
I'm having trouble getting callerid name to show up on my phones (Cisco 7960
and a few softphones) When I look in the CDR database I see the name but not
on any phone when being called.

I'm running
Asterisk SVN-trunk-r7498 built on 2006-04-30 15:11:39 UTC 


Any help would be great !



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RE: [Asterisk-Users] CallerID Name problem

2006-05-01 Thread Hall, Eric M.
Using SIP and SCCP. The softphone uses SIP.

Doing a debug  I see no name being sent. 

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Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] CallerID Name problem

Hi,

What protocol for your 7960 phone? SCCP or SIP? You can turn on the SIP
debug on CLI to make sure the callerid and name pass to your phone. 

Kevin 

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Subject: [Asterisk-Users] CallerID Name problem

 
I'm having trouble getting callerid name to show up on my phones (Cisco
7960 and a few softphones) When I look in the CDR database I see the
name but not on any phone when being called.

I'm running
Asterisk SVN-trunk-r7498 built on 2006-04-30 15:11:39 UTC 


Any help would be great !



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RE: [Asterisk-Users] CallerID Name problem

2006-05-01 Thread Alexander Lopez
How are the calls coming into the PBX. PRI? If so add a Wait(1) before
your try ringing the SIP channel.


 -Original Message-
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hall, Eric M.
 Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 12:37 PM
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 Subject: [Asterisk-Users] CallerID Name problem
 
 
 I'm having trouble getting callerid name to show up on my phones
(Cisco
 7960 and a few softphones)
 When I look in the CDR database I see the name but not on any phone
when
 being called.
 
 I'm running
 Asterisk SVN-trunk-r7498 built on 2006-04-30 15:11:39 UTC
 
 
 Any help would be great !
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] CallerID Name problem

2006-05-01 Thread Hall, Eric M.
Title: RE: [Asterisk-Users] CallerID Name problem






Do you wait before or after the answer? Do you even need the answer?



-Original Message-
From:  Alexander Lopez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Mon May 01 14:26:49 2006
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] CallerID Name problem

How are the calls coming into the PBX. PRI? If so add a Wait(1) before
your try ringing the SIP channel.


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 Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 12:37 PM
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 Subject: [Asterisk-Users] CallerID Name problem


 I'm having trouble getting callerid name to show up on my phones
(Cisco
 7960 and a few softphones)
 When I look in the CDR database I see the name but not on any phone
when
 being called.

 I'm running
 Asterisk SVN-trunk-r7498 built on 2006-04-30 15:11:39 UTC


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RE: [Asterisk-Users] CallerID Name problem

2006-05-01 Thread Alexander Lopez
Title: RE: [Asterisk-Users] CallerID Name problem



You don't need the answer, But you need the wait. 
CallerID Name comes over the FACILITY messge many times and it takes a slpit 
second for it to come in.


  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hall, 
  Eric M.Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 4:34 PMTo: Asterisk 
  Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial DiscussionSubject: RE: 
  [Asterisk-Users] CallerID Name problem
  
  Do you wait before or after the answer? Do you even need the 
  answer?-Original Message-From:  
  Alexander Lopez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 
  Mon May 01 14:26:49 2006To: Asterisk Users Mailing 
  List - Non-Commercial 
  DiscussionSubject: RE: 
  [Asterisk-Users] CallerID Name problemHow are the calls coming into 
  the PBX. PRI? If so add a Wait(1) beforeyour try ringing the SIP 
  channel. -Original Message- From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-users- 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hall, Eric M. Sent: Monday, May 
  01, 2006 12:37 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial 
  Discussion Subject: [Asterisk-Users] CallerID Name 
  problem I'm having trouble getting callerid name to 
  show up on my phones(Cisco 7960 and a few softphones) When 
  I look in the CDR database I see the name but not on any phonewhen 
  being called. I'm running Asterisk SVN-trunk-r7498 
  built on 2006-04-30 15:11:39 UTC Any help would be 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] CallerID Name problem

2006-05-01 Thread Lacy Moore - Aspendora
Do you get caller ID number? If so, WAITing is not going to help, since you already get the info. If you get caller ID number, then your telco is not sending the name.
On 5/1/06, Hall, Eric M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Do you wait before or after the answer? Do you even need the answer?
-Original Message-From:  Alexander Lopez [
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Mon May 01 14:26:49 2006To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] CallerID Name problemHow are the calls coming into the PBX. PRI? If so add a Wait(1) beforeyour try ringing the SIP channel.
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Hall, Eric M. Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 12:37 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: [Asterisk-Users] CallerID Name problem
 I'm having trouble getting callerid name to show up on my phones(Cisco 7960 and a few softphones) When I look in the CDR database I see the name but not on any phonewhen
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] CallerID Name problem

2006-05-01 Thread Hall, Eric M.
Title: RE: [Asterisk-Users] CallerID Name problem






Thanks will try that tonight.

Thanks again



-Original Message-
From:  Alexander Lopez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Mon May 01 17:07:43 2006
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] CallerID Name problem

You don't need the answer, But you need the wait. CallerID Name comes
over the FACILITY messge many times and it takes a slpit second for it
to come in.





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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Hall, Eric
M.
 Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 4:34 PM
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 Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] CallerID Name problem



 Do you wait before or after the answer? Do you even need the
answer?



 -Original Message-
 From: Alexander Lopez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Mon May 01 14:26:49 2006
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] CallerID Name problem

 How are the calls coming into the PBX. PRI? If so add a Wait(1)
before
 your try ringing the SIP channel.


  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:asterisk-users-
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hall, Eric M.
  Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 12:37 PM
  To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
  Subject: [Asterisk-Users] CallerID Name problem
 
 
  I'm having trouble getting callerid name to show up on my
phones
 (Cisco
  7960 and a few softphones)
  When I look in the CDR database I see the name but not on any
phone
 when
  being called.
 
  I'm running
  Asterisk SVN-trunk-r7498 built on 2006-04-30 15:11:39 UTC
 
 
  Any help would be great !
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RE: Spam? Re: [Asterisk-Users] CallerID Name problem

2006-05-01 Thread Hall, Eric M.
Title: RE: Spam? Re: [Asterisk-Users] CallerID Name problem






I'm getting Number but when I look at the CDR database. I do see the name



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Subject: Spam? Re: [Asterisk-Users] CallerID Name problem

Do you get caller ID number? If so, WAITing is not going to help, since you
already get the info. If you get caller ID number, then your telco is not
sending the name.

On 5/1/06, Hall, Eric M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Do you wait before or after the answer? Do you even need the answer?




 -Original Message-
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 ]
 Sent: Mon May 01 14:26:49 2006
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] CallerID Name problem

 How are the calls coming into the PBX. PRI? If so add a Wait(1) before
 your try ringing the SIP channel.


  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-users-asterisk-users-
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hall, Eric M.
  Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 12:37 PM
  To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
  Subject: [Asterisk-Users] CallerID Name problem
 
 
  I'm having trouble getting callerid name to show up on my phones
 (Cisco
  7960 and a few softphones)
  When I look in the CDR database I see the name but not on any phone
 when
  being called.
 
  I'm running
  Asterisk SVN-trunk-r7498 built on 2006-04-30 15:11:39 UTC
 
 
  Any help would be great !
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] CallerID Name problem

2006-05-01 Thread Josh McAllister

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lacy Moore - 
Aspendora
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 3:06 PM
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Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] CallerID Name problem

Do you get caller ID number?  If so, WAITing is not going to help, since you 
already get the info.  If you get caller ID number, then your telco is not 
sending the name.

This is not necessarily true. I've always gotten cID number, but only recently 
when I added a wait(1) did I start getting channel vars populated with cID 
Name. Same as Eric, I was getting cID Name in the CDR records all along as well.

Eric -- Go ahead and give it a shot... even if you are getting the cID number. 
This will likely fix your problem.

Josh McAllister
 

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] CallerID Name problem

2006-05-01 Thread Hall, Eric M.
Title: RE: [Asterisk-Users] CallerID Name problem



That worked GREAT 
Thank you so so MUCH for your 
help!!


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alexander 
LopezSent: Monday, May 01, 2006 5:06 PMTo: Asterisk Users 
Mailing List - Non-Commercial DiscussionSubject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] 
CallerID Name problem

You don't need the answer, But you need the wait. 
CallerID Name comes over the FACILITY messge many times and it takes a slpit 
second for it to come in.


  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hall, 
  Eric M.Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 4:34 PMTo: Asterisk 
  Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial DiscussionSubject: RE: 
  [Asterisk-Users] CallerID Name problem
  
  Do you wait before or after the answer? Do you even need the 
  answer?-Original Message-From:  
  Alexander Lopez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 
  Mon May 01 14:26:49 2006To: Asterisk Users Mailing 
  List - Non-Commercial 
  DiscussionSubject: RE: 
  [Asterisk-Users] CallerID Name problemHow are the calls coming into 
  the PBX. PRI? If so add a Wait(1) beforeyour try ringing the SIP 
  channel. -Original Message- From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-users- 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hall, Eric M. Sent: Monday, May 
  01, 2006 12:37 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial 
  Discussion Subject: [Asterisk-Users] CallerID Name 
  problem I'm having trouble getting callerid name to 
  show up on my phones(Cisco 7960 and a few softphones) When 
  I look in the CDR database I see the name but not on any phonewhen 
  being called. I'm running Asterisk SVN-trunk-r7498 
  built on 2006-04-30 15:11:39 UTC Any help would be 
  great ! ___ 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] CallerID Name problem

2006-05-01 Thread Lacy Moore - Aspendora
Good to know. I always thought that it was all sent along the D channel in the call setup. But, until Wednesday, I'm just talking. After Wednesday, I'll have my PRI. At least now I know to include the wait.

Thanks!
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Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] CallerID Name problemDo you get caller ID number? If so, WAITing is not going to help, since you already get the info. If you get caller ID number, then your telco is not sending the name.
This is not necessarily true. I've always gotten cID number, but only recently when I added a wait(1) did I start getting channel vars populated with cID Name. Same as Eric, I was getting cID Name in the CDR records all along as well.
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] CallerID Name problem

2006-05-01 Thread Damon Estep
The CDR is written at the end of the call, the SIP invite is generated when you 
tell it to.

You must wait for the CID name before you dial a SIP channel, as this is when 
the SIP invite is created.

Wait 1 seems to be long enough.

For analog TDM this is not an issue as the CNAM is sent between the first and 
second ring.

In nearly every case I have seen, the facility IE that contains the CNAM on 
most NI-2 ISDN PRIs, the Facility IE is not sent until after you send progress 
back to the telco.

Like this;

Telco sends ISDN SETUP message
You send back ISDN PROGRESS (on a normal call)
The Telco sends ISDN FACILITY INFORMATION ELEMENT (IE) containing CNAM

I have looked at several protocol monitoring session form both Nortel and 
lucent class 5 switches, and every one seems to send the facility IE in less 
than 500 milliseconds following SETUP assuming you (Zaptel) reply PROGRESS in a 
timely fashion, which does not appear to ever be an issue with Asterisk.

I have been lead to believe there are two reasons for sending the CNAM in the 
facility IE.

One explanation is that the SETUP message has a restriction on length, and in 
order to provide other features, the CNAM had to be moved.

The other explanation is that the Telco is saving costs by not dipping into 
LIDB (line information databases) for all calls where PROGRESS is not received 
from the endpoint (a high percentage of all calls). There is a cost associated 
with LIDB dips.

Both are believable explanations, but the result is the same, you have to wait 
1 second!

Sure would be nice if asterisk could wait 500 milliseconds instead, since there 
is a need to put a play 1 second of silence in the first step of the IVR (if 
used) to avoid clipping the first phrase also. The combined 2 seconds of wait 
gets noticed by some users/callers.

For the archives - The Lucent TNT (as of 11.0 firmware) is not capable of 
waiting for CNAM before generating the SIP invite, so it is not compatible 
with PRIs where the CNAM is sent in the facility IE instead of the SETUP 
message, which is the case with most telco switches with current software on 
them.

Damon












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 Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 4:25 PM
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 Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] CallerID Name problem
 
 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-users-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lacy Moore - Aspendora
 Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 3:06 PM
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] CallerID Name problem
 
 Do you get caller ID number?  If so, WAITing is not going to help, since
 you already get the info.  If you get caller ID number, then your telco
 is not sending the name.
 
 This is not necessarily true. I've always gotten cID number, but only
 recently when I added a wait(1) did I start getting channel vars populated
 with cID Name. Same as Eric, I was getting cID Name in the CDR records all
 along as well.
 
 Eric -- Go ahead and give it a shot... even if you are getting the cID
 number. This will likely fix your problem.
 
 Josh McAllister
 
 
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] CallerID Name problem

2006-05-01 Thread Alexander Lopez
Title: RE: [Asterisk-Users] CallerID Name problem








Glad to help. It is NOT a BUG, but it
works that way due to the way CallerID name is transmited to the customer with
some Telcos















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That worked GREAT 

Thank you so so MUCH for your help!!









From:
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Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users]
CallerID Name problem

You don't need the answer, But you need
the wait. CallerID Name comes over the FACILITY messge many times and it takes
a slpit second for it to come in.













From:
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CallerID Name problem

Do
you wait before or after the answer? Do you even need the answer?



-Original Message-
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Sent: Mon May 01 14:26:49 2006
To: Asterisk Users Mailing
 List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users]
CallerID Name problem

How are the calls coming into the PBX. PRI? If so add a Wait(1) before
your try ringing the SIP channel.


 -Original Message-
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hall, Eric M.
 Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 12:37 PM
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 Discussion
 Subject: [Asterisk-Users] CallerID Name problem


 I'm having trouble getting callerid name to show up on my phones
(Cisco
 7960 and a few softphones)
 When I look in the CDR database I see the name but not on any phone
when
 being called.

 I'm running
 Asterisk SVN-trunk-r7498 built on 2006-04-30 15:11:39 UTC


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RE: [Asterisk-Users] CallerID Name problem

2006-05-01 Thread Alexander Lopez
You explained this very well thank you!!, We discussed (Astricon 2005 Anaheim) 
having LibPri either wait 1 second before passing the call on to asterisk, or 
waiting until CNAME was received, both ideas were not good as it will introduce 
delays for all instead of just those that needed it.

For the time being we will put the Wait(1) in.
 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-users-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Damon Estep
 Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 8:24 PM
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] CallerID Name problem
 
 The CDR is written at the end of the call, the SIP invite is generated
 when you tell it to.
 
 You must wait for the CID name before you dial a SIP channel, as this is
 when the SIP invite is created.
 
 Wait 1 seems to be long enough.
 
 For analog TDM this is not an issue as the CNAM is sent between the first
 and second ring.
 
 In nearly every case I have seen, the facility IE that contains the CNAM
 on most NI-2 ISDN PRIs, the Facility IE is not sent until after you send
 progress back to the telco.
 
 Like this;
 
 Telco sends ISDN SETUP message
 You send back ISDN PROGRESS (on a normal call)
 The Telco sends ISDN FACILITY INFORMATION ELEMENT (IE) containing CNAM
 
 I have looked at several protocol monitoring session form both Nortel and
 lucent class 5 switches, and every one seems to send the facility IE in
 less than 500 milliseconds following SETUP assuming you (Zaptel) reply
 PROGRESS in a timely fashion, which does not appear to ever be an issue
 with Asterisk.
 
 I have been lead to believe there are two reasons for sending the CNAM in
 the facility IE.
 
 One explanation is that the SETUP message has a restriction on length, and
 in order to provide other features, the CNAM had to be moved.
 
 The other explanation is that the Telco is saving costs by not dipping
 into LIDB (line information databases) for all calls where PROGRESS is not
 received from the endpoint (a high percentage of all calls). There is a
 cost associated with LIDB dips.
 
 Both are believable explanations, but the result is the same, you have to
 wait 1 second!
 
 Sure would be nice if asterisk could wait 500 milliseconds instead, since
 there is a need to put a play 1 second of silence in the first step of
 the IVR (if used) to avoid clipping the first phrase also. The combined 2
 seconds of wait gets noticed by some users/callers.
 
 For the archives - The Lucent TNT (as of 11.0 firmware) is not capable of
 waiting for CNAM before generating the SIP invite, so it is not
 compatible with PRIs where the CNAM is sent in the facility IE instead of
 the SETUP message, which is the case with most telco switches with current
 software on them.
 
 Damon
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-users-
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Josh McAllister
  Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 4:25 PM
  To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
  Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] CallerID Name problem
 
 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-users-
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lacy Moore - Aspendora
  Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 3:06 PM
  To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
  Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] CallerID Name problem
  
  Do you get caller ID number?  If so, WAITing is not going to help,
 since
  you already get the info.  If you get caller ID number, then your telco
  is not sending the name.
 
  This is not necessarily true. I've always gotten cID number, but only
  recently when I added a wait(1) did I start getting channel vars
 populated
  with cID Name. Same as Eric, I was getting cID Name in the CDR records
 all
  along as well.
 
  Eric -- Go ahead and give it a shot... even if you are getting the cID
  number. This will likely fix your problem.
 
  Josh McAllister
 
 
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] CallerID Name problem

2006-05-01 Thread Damon Estep
Cross-posted to Dev on purpose.

I missed Astricon (not willing to give up a planned vacation!).

I looks like there is already code that detects the facility IE, as asterisk 
whines about do not know what to do with a second ROSE component (not 
verified in current version). That second ROSE component is the message that 
says the CNAM is coming in a facility IE according to the PM sessions I have 
been able to look at.

Why not put a flag in the config? WaitforfacilityIE=yes|no - this would allow 
the user to decide on a per span basis if it is needed.

The Bellcore spec on CNAM states that the SETUP must contain an information 
following message element to indicate that the CNAM will arrive in the 
Facility IE.

Libpri could be written to look for the information following element in 
SETUP and wait for the FACIILITY IE if it is detected AND the user flag is set 
to wait for Facility IE.

Of course, when I say could be written, I mean by someone like Matthew 
Frederickson, not me :). I do not have the required knowledge of the code to 
even try and attempt this.

I spent way too much time on this last year trying to use a TNT as a media 
gateway, now it (the TNT) is an outbound gateway for our 911 trunks and nothing 
else.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alexander Lopez
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 6:38 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] CallerID Name problem

You explained this very well thank you!!, We discussed (Astricon 2005 Anaheim) 
having LibPri either wait 1 second before passing the call on to asterisk, or 
waiting until CNAME was received, both ideas were not good as it will introduce 
delays for all instead of just those that needed it.

For the time being we will put the Wait(1) in.
 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-users-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Damon Estep
 Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 8:24 PM
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] CallerID Name problem
 
 The CDR is written at the end of the call, the SIP invite is generated
 when you tell it to.
 
 You must wait for the CID name before you dial a SIP channel, as this is
 when the SIP invite is created.
 
 Wait 1 seems to be long enough.
 
 For analog TDM this is not an issue as the CNAM is sent between the first
 and second ring.
 
 In nearly every case I have seen, the facility IE that contains the CNAM
 on most NI-2 ISDN PRIs, the Facility IE is not sent until after you send
 progress back to the telco.
 
 Like this;
 
 Telco sends ISDN SETUP message
 You send back ISDN PROGRESS (on a normal call)
 The Telco sends ISDN FACILITY INFORMATION ELEMENT (IE) containing CNAM
 
 I have looked at several protocol monitoring session form both Nortel and
 lucent class 5 switches, and every one seems to send the facility IE in
 less than 500 milliseconds following SETUP assuming you (Zaptel) reply
 PROGRESS in a timely fashion, which does not appear to ever be an issue
 with Asterisk.
 
 I have been lead to believe there are two reasons for sending the CNAM in
 the facility IE.
 
 One explanation is that the SETUP message has a restriction on length, and
 in order to provide other features, the CNAM had to be moved.
 
 The other explanation is that the Telco is saving costs by not dipping
 into LIDB (line information databases) for all calls where PROGRESS is not
 received from the endpoint (a high percentage of all calls). There is a
 cost associated with LIDB dips.
 
 Both are believable explanations, but the result is the same, you have to
 wait 1 second!
 
 Sure would be nice if asterisk could wait 500 milliseconds instead, since
 there is a need to put a play 1 second of silence in the first step of
 the IVR (if used) to avoid clipping the first phrase also. The combined 2
 seconds of wait gets noticed by some users/callers.
 
 For the archives - The Lucent TNT (as of 11.0 firmware) is not capable of
 waiting for CNAM before generating the SIP invite, so it is not
 compatible with PRIs where the CNAM is sent in the facility IE instead of
 the SETUP message, which is the case with most telco switches with current
 software on them.
 
 Damon
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-users-
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Josh McAllister
  Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 4:25 PM
  To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
  Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] CallerID Name problem
 
 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-users-
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lacy Moore - Aspendora
  Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 3:06 PM
  To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
  Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] CallerID Name problem
  
  Do you get caller ID number?  If so, WAITing is not going to help,
 since
  you already get the info.  If you get caller ID number