Re: [Asterisk-Users] Dialing 800 numbers with VOIP
works with voicepulse too - Original Message - From: Jeremy McNamara [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 6:39 PM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Dialing 800 numbers with VOIP Matt Lawson wrote: Hmm. Both Voicepulse and Nufone don't seem to be able to dial out 800 numbers. Are 800 numbers treated differently somehow? Or is there a business reason for disallowing them? It makes the ringing sound but never connects. You can call toll-free numbers via NuFone. Jeremy McNamara ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Dialing 800 numbers with VOIP
It appears that iaxtel doesn't support IAX1 anymore, so gnophone should no longer work with it. I don't use iaxtel or gnophone, so someone correct me if I'm wrong. I don't believe I am though. James On Fri, 20 Feb 2004, Mukul Prasad wrote: HI I am trying to run gnophone with asterisk PBX . The problem is that the originating gnophone always shows the status of call Attempting connection while the terminating gnophone goes in the active state and shows 1 call active. The Media also doesn't get through I am also attaching the logs of gnophone. Hope somebody can help me . Thanx in advance ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Dialing 800 numbers with VOIP
On Tue, 10 Feb 2004, Chris Clifton wrote: I'll second this. For the past 4 days, Vonage can't figure out how to process our visa check card. In the meantime, Nufone has us setup with an account, ready to roll. - Chris Clifton Interesting. I've been trying to get Jeremy to set up a second 800 DID for us since Feb 4th and I'm not having any luck. Our Paypal payment has been processed, and I've spoken to Jeremy on IRC.. perhaps today will be my lucky day. :) -- Vice President of N2Net, a New Age Consulting Service, Inc. Company http://www.n2net.net Where everything clicks into place! KP-216-121-ST ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Dialing 800 numbers with VOIP
Hm. After seeing all the people who say it works, I thought - maybe I forgot to dial 9 in front of the number and that's why the call failed. So I looked up the Wells Fargo toll free number again and tried it. Failed. SIT tones and We're sorry, your call did not go through. Will you please try your call again later? The recording has nothing at the end that might give some clue who was generating it either. Okay, I thought, maybe it's a regional number and that's why. Nope, for further testing I looked up toll free numbers that for sure would be nationally dialable. They fail exactly the same way. Perhaps it's something in my Nufone account setup? I don't know. The SIP and IAX debug messages on my console don't look appreciably different from those where calls complete so I know the call is getting there. It's impossible for any recording to be generated on my * box because my sound driver has yet to work, it's not coming from there. I'm certainly not out to bash Nufone - I live in Uruguay and have a 64k internet connection. Vonage barely works because the codec they've chosen and the speed I've bought don't match up. (I imagine that it would work better if I had a 128k connection - but 64k is USD$42 per month and the providers prices increase exactly proportional to the speed you want.) There was about a 1.5 second delay in the other party hearing what I was saying and only one person could talk at a time. Using a different Cisco ATA to connect to * and then GSM over IAX to Nufone sounds night and day different. No delay, minimal distortion, two-way conversation - this is good stuff. -Tim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Boehnlein Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 12:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Dialing 800 numbers with VOIP On Mon, 9 Feb 2004, Tim Petlock wrote: [ Long Explanation Deleted ] Nufone and Voicepulse would have to maintain some number of trunks with an ILEC or CLEC to complete toll-free calls. I dial 800 numbers all the time from my Nufone account without problem. Hell, my DID through Nufone -IS- an 800 number! -- Vice President of N2Net, a New Age Consulting Service, Inc. Company http://www.n2net.net Where everything clicks into place! KP-216-121-ST ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Dialing 800 numbers with VOIP
On Tue, 10 Feb 2004, Tim Petlock wrote: Hm. After seeing all the people who say it works, I thought - maybe I forgot to dial 9 in front of the number and that's why the call failed. So I looked up the Wells Fargo toll free number again and tried it. Failed. SIT tones and We're sorry, your call did not go through. Will you please try your call again later? The recording has nothing at the end that might give some clue who was generating it either. I just tested Vonage and VoicePulse - both worked fine. You might want to check to verify that you don't have 1-800 numbers going out a different service then you expect. IIRC, when you set up IAXTEL, it recommends you add lines to handle 1-800 numbers. So if you do that, and your IAXTEL connection stops working, you'll lose the ability to dial 1-800 numbers. I don't have a Nufone account (Jeremy - if you are reading - I would probably have one if there was a price for a starter package listed on your site - something for SoHo use, without any deep discounts or anything, just something to use to play with the service; I have a personal aversion to bothering with companies who don't list their prices), so I have no idea if Nufone's 1-800 service works or not. -- Joel ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Dialing 800 numbers with VOIP
I think the please try your call again later part of the recording is to be taken seriously. I've tried 800 numbers and failed but I tried re-dial several times and it worked after a few attempts. I have no idea how my call is routed but I'd not be supprized if NuFone, Iconnect FWD and the like don't just have a small number of POTS analog lines for the outbound toll free calls and you simply have to be lucky to call when one of those is available. It may not be exactly that but I'll bet there is n of something and you are the n+1 caller. What you can do is put backups in the dial plan so if, say FWD fails you go for the next service in line. --- Tim Petlock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hm. After seeing all the people who say it works, I thought - maybe I forgot to dial 9 in front of the number and that's why the call failed. So I looked up the Wells Fargo toll free number again and tried it. Failed. SIT tones and We're sorry, your call did not go through. Will you please try your call again later? The recording has nothing at the end that might give some clue who was generating it either. Okay, I thought, maybe it's a regional number and that's why. Nope, for further testing I looked up toll free numbers that for sure would be nationally dialable. They fail exactly the same way. Perhaps it's something in my Nufone account setup? I don't know. The SIP and IAX debug messages on my console don't look appreciably different from those where calls complete so I know the call is getting there. It's impossible for any recording to be generated on my * box because my sound driver has yet to work, it's not coming from there. I'm certainly not out to bash Nufone - I live in Uruguay and have a 64k internet connection. Vonage barely works because the codec they've chosen and the speed I've bought don't match up. (I imagine that it would work better if I had a 128k connection - but 64k is USD$42 per month and the providers prices increase exactly proportional to the speed you want.) There was about a 1.5 second delay in the other party hearing what I was saying and only one person could talk at a time. Using a different Cisco ATA to connect to * and then GSM over IAX to Nufone sounds night and day different. No delay, minimal distortion, two-way conversation - this is good stuff. -Tim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Boehnlein Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 12:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Dialing 800 numbers with VOIP On Mon, 9 Feb 2004, Tim Petlock wrote: [ Long Explanation Deleted ] Nufone and Voicepulse would have to maintain some number of trunks with an ILEC or CLEC to complete toll-free calls. I dial 800 numbers all the time from my Nufone account without problem. Hell, my DID through Nufone -IS- an 800 number! -- Vice President of N2Net, a New Age Consulting Service, Inc. Company http://www.n2net.net Where everything clicks into place! KP-216-121-ST ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users = Chris Albertson Home: 310-376-1029 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 310-990-7550 Office: 310-336-5189 [EMAIL PROTECTED] KG6OMK __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Dialing 800 numbers with VOIP
quote who=Joel Maslak I don't have a Nufone account (Jeremy - if you are reading - I would probably have one if there was a price for a starter package listed on your site - something for SoHo use, without any deep discounts or anything, just something to use to play with the service; I have a personal aversion to bothering with companies who don't list their prices), so I have no idea if Nufone's 1-800 service works or not. There are no fees. Think of it as a calling card. You put $10 into the account, then you have $10 of minutes. Per minute cost depends on where you are dialing to. -- END OF LINE -MCP ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Dialing 800 numbers with VOIP
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Boehnlein Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 10:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Dialing 800 numbers with VOIP On Mon, 9 Feb 2004, Tim Petlock wrote: [...] I dial 800 numbers all the time from my Nufone account without problem. Hell, my DID through Nufone -IS- an 800 number! [...] Of course you're aware that a DID and call termination are completely different things that have nearly nothing in common. Daryl ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Dialing 800 numbers with VOIP
I second the last comment below. I sent $5.00 via pay pal to NuFone and was up and runing very quickly. My problem is billing. What you do is send e-mail asking How much is left in the account? and then if it is low you send more. For test purposes this is not bad but I can't imagine setting up an end user with Asteisk and them explaining to them that for the rest of their life they will have to send account frequent ballance inquerries to NuFone. I could be wrong and maybe I'll get billed when my $5.00 runs out. I started with such a low amount just to see what happens when it runs out. Will there be an outage of service? Is that how I will know I'm at zero ballance? Maybe I'll get some e-mail or a voice message saying You're low, pay up. I guess I'll find out. But without a good billing system it can't be used in a small office that employs no phone geeks who will track ballances. About thier rates. Not bad. You need to ask and you'll get a spreadsheet with the per minute rates. They beat Iconnect by a slim margin. BUT they talk IAX2 which is a big plus. Why is this not on the web and automated? My guess is either a lack of devlopment resources at NuFone or he's more interested in supporting high volume customers who don't need a web site but more likely both. --- Robert Hajime Lanning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: quote who=Joel Maslak I don't have a Nufone account (Jeremy - if you are reading - I would probably have one if there was a price for a starter package listed on your site - something for SoHo use, without any deep discounts or anything, just something to use to play with the service; I have a personal aversion to bothering with companies who don't list their prices), so I have no idea if Nufone's 1-800 service works or not. There are no fees. Think of it as a calling card. You put $10 into the account, then you have $10 of minutes. Per minute cost depends on where you are dialing to. -- END OF LINE -MCP ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users = Chris Albertson Home: 310-376-1029 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 310-990-7550 Office: 310-336-5189 [EMAIL PROTECTED] KG6OMK __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Dialing 800 numbers with VOIP
On Tue, Feb 10, 2004 at 10:36:45AM -0800, Chris Albertson wrote: Why is this not on the web and automated? My guess is either a lack of devlopment resources at NuFone or he's more interested in supporting high volume customers who don't need a web site but more likely both. Apparently, you haven't seen their Subscriber Management System! http://www.nufone.net/sms.php Linked from here: http://www.nufone.net/voip_provider.php Is this really a company, or is NuFone in some guy's basement? Rob -- Rob Fugina, Systems Guy [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.geekthing.com My firewall filters MS Office attachments. Troubleshooting shortcut #1: Shoot the trouble. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Dialing 800 numbers with VOIP
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Fugina Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 2:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Dialing 800 numbers with VOIP Is this really a company, or is NuFone in some guy's basement? And being in someone's basement has exactly WHAT to do with being a real company? Get with the times. You don't spend money on offices when you don't need them. Nor on datacenters. I started, what I can only assume you would consider to be not a real company, in my basement, about 8 years ago. It was sold for 7 figures 4 years ago. I'm in the process of doing the same, this time from my attic. I'm tired of the NuFone bashing. If you don't like a company, don't use their services. If you want to bitch and complain about service providers, find another list (and come up with a better argument). This one is about Asterisk. Not the services you can use Asterisk with. Daryl G. Jurbala BMPC Network Operations Tel (NY): +1 917 477 0468 x235 Tel (MI): +1 616 608 0004 x235 Tel (UK): +44 208 792 6813 x235 Fax: +1 508 526 8500 INOC-DBA: 26412*DGJ ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Dialing 800 numbers with VOIP
I'll second this. For the past 4 days, Vonage can't figure out how to process our visa check card. In the meantime, Nufone has us setup with an account, ready to roll. - Chris Clifton - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 4:21 PM Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Dialing 800 numbers with VOIP -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Fugina Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 2:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Dialing 800 numbers with VOIP Is this really a company, or is NuFone in some guy's basement? And being in someone's basement has exactly WHAT to do with being a real company? Get with the times. You don't spend money on offices when you don't need them. Nor on datacenters. I started, what I can only assume you would consider to be not a real company, in my basement, about 8 years ago. It was sold for 7 figures 4 years ago. I'm in the process of doing the same, this time from my attic. I'm tired of the NuFone bashing. If you don't like a company, don't use their services. If you want to bitch and complain about service providers, find another list (and come up with a better argument). This one is about Asterisk. Not the services you can use Asterisk with. Daryl G. Jurbala BMPC Network Operations Tel (NY): +1 917 477 0468 x235 Tel (MI): +1 616 608 0004 x235 Tel (UK): +44 208 792 6813 x235 Fax: +1 508 526 8500 INOC-DBA: 26412*DGJ ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Dialing 800 numbers with VOIP
Use fwd.pulver.com On Mon, 9 Feb 2004, Matt Lawson wrote: Hmm. Both Voicepulse and Nufone don't seem to be able to dial out 800 numbers. Are 800 numbers treated differently somehow? Or is there a business reason for disallowing them? It makes the ringing sound but never connects. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Dialing 800 numbers with VOIP
Matt Lawson wrote: Hmm. Both Voicepulse and Nufone don't seem to be able to dial out 800 numbers. Are 800 numbers treated differently somehow? Or is there a business reason for disallowing them? It makes the ringing sound but never connects. You can call toll-free numbers via NuFone. Jeremy McNamara ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Dialing 800 numbers with VOIP
The business reason is that Voicepulse and Nufone probably have a combination of other VOIP business relationships and direct T1's to long distance resellers and those are used to complete calls. I have never experienced a case where a direct T1 to a long distance carrier could complete toll free calls. Not to say it doesn't exist, but I haven't seen it. Reason? When you dial a toll-free number there's an immediate database lookup prior to the call even starting to ring - to determine where (which carrier) to route that call. Local exchange carriers - whether ILEC or CLEC - are positioned and more importantly motivated to do so. They want all calls to complete from their dialtone. They want and are equipped to stay on top of and book the settlement income from all the other carriers they do business with. A long distance carrier provides you with a T1 channel directly into one of their switches. They have no incentive to maintain the realtime links to a database to facilitate calls that have to be handed off through some possibly non-existent interconnect to another carrier so that other carrier can bill their customer while that call free-loads on a channel in and out of their switching facilities. I bumped into the toll-free limitation with Nufone today when I was trying to call a bank. I don't live in the USA so I can't just walk to a payphone either - I had to locate a regular phone number of a bank branch and 'splain to them why I wanted to be transferred. They did so and it wasn't that painful. It didn't occur to me to add FWD to my config to complete such calls - but I will when I can figure out how to do it securely without giving anyone who dials my FWD number access across my Asterisk box to outbound calls through Nufone. Nufone and Voicepulse would have to maintain some number of trunks with an ILEC or CLEC to complete toll-free calls. -Tim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Isamar Maia Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 4:45 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Dialing 800 numbers with VOIP Use fwd.pulver.com On Mon, 9 Feb 2004, Matt Lawson wrote: Hmm. Both Voicepulse and Nufone don't seem to be able to dial out 800 numbers. Are 800 numbers treated differently somehow? Or is there a business reason for disallowing them? It makes the ringing sound but never connects. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Dialing 800 numbers with VOIP
quote who=Tim Petlock It didn't occur to me to add FWD to my config to complete such calls - but I will when I can figure out how to do it securely without giving anyone who dials my FWD number access across my Asterisk box to outbound calls through Nufone. I actually use IAXTel for my 800 number service. I find it more stable than FWD. FWD latency seems to jump all over the place. I have a log full of REACHABLE/UNREACHABLE messages for FWD. And that is with a 2000 ms threshold. -- END OF LINE -MCP ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Dialing 800 numbers with VOIP
On Mon, 9 Feb 2004, Tim Petlock wrote: [ Long Explanation Deleted ] Nufone and Voicepulse would have to maintain some number of trunks with an ILEC or CLEC to complete toll-free calls. I dial 800 numbers all the time from my Nufone account without problem. Hell, my DID through Nufone -IS- an 800 number! -- Vice President of N2Net, a New Age Consulting Service, Inc. Company http://www.n2net.net Where everything clicks into place! KP-216-121-ST ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
