RE: [Asterisk-Users] Newbie's doubt on sip.conf

2004-07-07 Thread Andrew Thompson
kaiduan xie wrote:
 1) Can I have two or more SIP phones acting as
 extensions in one Asterisk box, and at the same time, registered to a
 SIP proxy, say Free World Dialup? If yes, how? 

Your phone would have to support registering with more than one sip server.
It may seem like what you want, but I doubt it is necessary.

 2) Why we need a section in the sip.conf for the
 proxy, say, Free World Dialup's fwd.pulver.com? In the
 case of 1), how to assign the value to section [fwd.pulver.com],
 since there are more than one sip phone, each with different FWD
 number?  

You should be able to register and listen for calls from multiple fwd
numbers and direct them to different extensions.

 3) Can anyone explain the meaning of peer, friend,
 user in more details? For each case, what is the
 role of Asterisk in SIP world, a UA, a proxy, or
 others?

Peer: A connection that sends calls to asterisk.
User: A connection that asterisk sends calls out to.
Friend: an attempt at a combination of both, to simplify set up of phones
that send and receive calls. (There are several people here who will tell
you friend is evil.)

 4) If we only use SIP phone as extensions in Asterisk,
 the SIP phone doesnot associate with outside proxy,
 does Asterisk act as a proxy for inter-extension call
 between the SIP phones? In this case, for the outgoing
  call originating from SIP phone to other network,
 say, PSTN, does Asterisk act as a gateway? (PSTN
 connection with Asterisk is assumed.)

Hmm, let me give brief examples of things you can do(* = asterisk): 
sip phone - * - sip phone
sip phone - * - hardline adapter - PSTN or T1/E1/BRI/etc.
sip phone - * - other voip service(fwd, iaxtel, etc)
sip phone - * - other voip service(voicepulse, nufone, iconnecthere) -
PSTN

Most(if not all) of these can be turned around so that they are still valid
reading right to left.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Newbie's doubt on sip.conf

2004-07-07 Thread Olle E. Johansson
Andrew Thompson wrote:
Peer: A connection that sends calls to asterisk.
User: A connection that asterisk sends calls out to.
Friend: an attempt at a combination of both, to simplify set up of phones
that send and receive calls. (There are several people here who will tell
you friend is evil.)
Actually, the opposite.
* Peers may or may not register so we can place calls to them.
* Users place calls to Asterisk.
/Olle
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Newbie's doubt on sip.conf

2004-07-07 Thread Olle E. Johansson
3) Can anyone explain the meaning of peer, friend,
user in more details? For each case, what is the
role of Asterisk in SIP world, a UA, a proxy, or
others?

In some diagrams, Asterisk take's the role of a SIP Proxy, but it is *not*
a SIP proxy by design. Asterisk answers SIP calls and originates calls as
just another SIP user agent client/server.
Asterisk is also acting as a SIP registrar, keeping track of where SIP
ua's are so we can place calls to them ([peer]s).
/O
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Newbie's doubt on sip.conf

2004-07-07 Thread kaiduan xie
Andrew,

Thanks for help. But you still doesnot answer my
questions. Please see the inline comments.

BTW, I use Getting Started with Asterisk as
reference
(http://www.automated.it/guidetoasterisk.htm#_Toc49248767).

Thanks,

kaiduan
--- Andrew Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 kaiduan xie wrote:
  1) Can I have two or more SIP phones acting as
  extensions in one Asterisk box, and at the same
 time, registered to a
  SIP proxy, say Free World Dialup? If yes, how? 
 
 Your phone would have to support registering with
 more than one sip server.
 It may seem like what you want, but I doubt it is
 necessary.

In my case, each SIP phones register with FWD, and was
assigned a extension. I can put more register for each
phone in sip.conf. For example,

register = 21103:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/1000
register = 21104:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/2000

My concern is how to setup the [fwd.pulver.com]

[fwd.pulver.com]
type=friend
secret=mypassword
username=my fwd number
host=fwd.pulver.com

since there are two FWD numbers, should I set secret
and username for each SIP Phones?

Also, you still doesnot answer my question, what is
the use of section [fwd.pulver.com]? Why we need
secret and username in [fwd.pulver.com] since we
already provide it in register =
21104:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/2000?

  2) Why we need a section in the sip.conf for the
  proxy, say, Free World Dialup's fwd.pulver.com? In
 the
  case of 1), how to assign the value to section
 [fwd.pulver.com],
  since there are more than one sip phone, each with
 different FWD
  number?  
 
 You should be able to register and listen for calls
 from multiple fwd
 numbers and direct them to different extensions.
 
  3) Can anyone explain the meaning of peer,
 friend,
  user in more details? For each case, what is the
  role of Asterisk in SIP world, a UA, a proxy, or
  others?
 
 Peer: A connection that sends calls to asterisk.
 User: A connection that asterisk sends calls out to.
 Friend: an attempt at a combination of both, to
 simplify set up of phones
 that send and receive calls. (There are several
 people here who will tell
 you friend is evil.)

Just to complain that the definition of peer,
user, and Friend is not self-explained, :) 

  4) If we only use SIP phone as extensions in
 Asterisk,
  the SIP phone doesnot associate with outside
 proxy,
  does Asterisk act as a proxy for inter-extension
 call
  between the SIP phones? In this case, for the
 outgoing
   call originating from SIP phone to other network,
  say, PSTN, does Asterisk act as a gateway? (PSTN
  connection with Asterisk is assumed.)
 
 Hmm, let me give brief examples of things you can
 do(* = asterisk): 
 sip phone - * - sip phone
 sip phone - * - hardline adapter - PSTN or
 T1/E1/BRI/etc.
 sip phone - * - other voip service(fwd, iaxtel,
 etc)
 sip phone - * - other voip service(voicepulse,
 nufone, iconnecthere) -
 PSTN


 Most(if not all) of these can be turned around so
 that they are still valid
 reading right to left.
 
 -
 Andrew Thompson
 http://aktzero.com/
 http://www.retirequickly.com/43653
 
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Newbie's doubt on sip.conf

2004-07-07 Thread Andrew Thompson
Olle E. Johansson wrote:
 Andrew Thompson wrote:
 
 Peer: A connection that sends calls to asterisk.
 User: A connection that asterisk sends calls out to.
 Friend: an attempt at a combination of both, to simplify set up of
 phones that send and receive calls. (There are several people here
 who will tell you friend is evil.)
 Actually, the opposite.
 
 * Peers may or may not register so we can place calls to them.
 * Users place calls to Asterisk.
 
 /Olle

Oops, sorry about that. Guess I should have looked back at the wiki first. I
haven't touched my asterisk config in a couple of weeks now...

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Newbie's doubt on sip.conf

2004-07-07 Thread Andrew Thompson
kaiduan xie wrote:
 Andrew,
 
 Thanks for help. But you still doesnot answer my
 questions. Please see the inline comments.

I'm sorry that I didn't quite understand what you were asking. I'll try
again...

 
 BTW, I use Getting Started with Asterisk as
 reference (http://www.automated.it/guidetoasterisk.htm#_Toc49248767).
 
 Thanks,
 
 kaiduan
 --- Andrew Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 kaiduan xie wrote:
 1) Can I have two or more SIP phones acting as
 extensions in one Asterisk box, and at the same time, registered to
 a SIP proxy, say Free World Dialup? If yes, how?
 
 Your phone would have to support registering with
 more than one sip server.
 It may seem like what you want, but I doubt it is
 necessary.
 
 In my case, each SIP phones register with FWD, and was
 assigned a extension. I can put more register for each
 phone in sip.conf. For example,
 
 register = 21103:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/1000
 register = 21104:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/2000

The register line tells asterisk to contact the specified server and
register the availability of the user(extension) specified. This means any
calls destined for that user will be passed to your asterisk. The /1000
tells asterisk to direct any calls to 21103 to extension 1000. (Not
specifically asked, but I wanted to elaborate on anyway.)

 
 My concern is how to setup the [fwd.pulver.com]
 
 [fwd.pulver.com]
 type=friend
 secret=mypassword
 username=my fwd number
 host=fwd.pulver.com
 
 since there are two FWD numbers, should I set secret
 and username for each SIP Phones?
 
 Also, you still doesnot answer my question, what is
 the use of section [fwd.pulver.com]? Why we need
 secret and username in [fwd.pulver.com] since we
 already provide it in register =
 21104:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/2000? 

If asterisk is registering succesfully, you should be able to *receive*
calls from fwd.

At this point, you need to define an outbound entry for each fwd number you
want to create calls as. If you only need for your outbound calls to appear
as from one fwd number, a single entry will do.

I'm currently referencing:
http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+config+sip.conf

Create a type=peer section for each fwd number you'll be dialing out as. You
will only need this in your Dial() line. 

I have only a single fwd number right now, so I have not built outbound
contexts for more than one fwd number. You'll need to ask for that
specifically from the list.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Newbie's doubt on sip.conf

2004-07-07 Thread Steve Totaro
use the wiki as a reference
www.voip-info.org


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Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Newbie's doubt on sip.conf


 Andrew,
 
 Thanks for help. But you still doesnot answer my
 questions. Please see the inline comments.
 
 BTW, I use Getting Started with Asterisk as
 reference
 (http://www.automated.it/guidetoasterisk.htm#_Toc49248767).
 
 Thanks,
 
 kaiduan
 --- Andrew Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  kaiduan xie wrote:
   1) Can I have two or more SIP phones acting as
   extensions in one Asterisk box, and at the same
  time, registered to a
   SIP proxy, say Free World Dialup? If yes, how? 
  
  Your phone would have to support registering with
  more than one sip server.
  It may seem like what you want, but I doubt it is
  necessary.
 
 In my case, each SIP phones register with FWD, and was
 assigned a extension. I can put more register for each
 phone in sip.conf. For example,
 
 register = 21103:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/1000
 register = 21104:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/2000
 
 My concern is how to setup the [fwd.pulver.com]
 
 [fwd.pulver.com]
 type=friend
 secret=mypassword
 username=my fwd number
 host=fwd.pulver.com
 
 since there are two FWD numbers, should I set secret
 and username for each SIP Phones?
 
 Also, you still doesnot answer my question, what is
 the use of section [fwd.pulver.com]? Why we need
 secret and username in [fwd.pulver.com] since we
 already provide it in register =
 21104:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/2000?
 
   2) Why we need a section in the sip.conf for the
   proxy, say, Free World Dialup's fwd.pulver.com? In
  the
   case of 1), how to assign the value to section
  [fwd.pulver.com],
   since there are more than one sip phone, each with
  different FWD
   number?  
  
  You should be able to register and listen for calls
  from multiple fwd
  numbers and direct them to different extensions.
  
   3) Can anyone explain the meaning of peer,
  friend,
   user in more details? For each case, what is the
   role of Asterisk in SIP world, a UA, a proxy, or
   others?
  
  Peer: A connection that sends calls to asterisk.
  User: A connection that asterisk sends calls out to.
  Friend: an attempt at a combination of both, to
  simplify set up of phones
  that send and receive calls. (There are several
  people here who will tell
  you friend is evil.)
 
 Just to complain that the definition of peer,
 user, and Friend is not self-explained, :) 
 
   4) If we only use SIP phone as extensions in
  Asterisk,
   the SIP phone doesnot associate with outside
  proxy,
   does Asterisk act as a proxy for inter-extension
  call
   between the SIP phones? In this case, for the
  outgoing
call originating from SIP phone to other network,
   say, PSTN, does Asterisk act as a gateway? (PSTN
   connection with Asterisk is assumed.)
  
  Hmm, let me give brief examples of things you can
  do(* = asterisk): 
  sip phone - * - sip phone
  sip phone - * - hardline adapter - PSTN or
  T1/E1/BRI/etc.
  sip phone - * - other voip service(fwd, iaxtel,
  etc)
  sip phone - * - other voip service(voicepulse,
  nufone, iconnecthere) -
  PSTN
 
 
  Most(if not all) of these can be turned around so
  that they are still valid
  reading right to left.
  
  -
  Andrew Thompson
  http://aktzero.com/
  http://www.retirequickly.com/43653
  
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Newbie's doubt on sip.conf

2004-07-06 Thread Mitchel Constantin
Your probably going to get this url (www.voip-info.org) thrown at you
by a few other people too...check there if you haven't already for
more information.

-mitchel

On Wed, 7 Jul 2004 00:45:53 -0400 (EDT), kaiduan xie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I have some doubts on sip.conf.
 
 1) Can I have two or more SIP phones acting as
 extensions in one Asterisk box, and at the same time,
 registered to a SIP proxy, say Free World Dialup? If
 yes, how?
 
 2) Why we need a section in the sip.conf for the
 proxy, say, Free World Dialup's fwd.pulver.com? In the
 case of 1), how to assign the value to section
 [fwd.pulver.com], since there are more than one sip
 phone, each with different FWD number?
 
 [fwd.pulver.com]
 
 type=friend
 
 secret=mypassword
 
 username=my fwd number
 
 host=fwd.pulver.com
 
 3) Can anyone explain the meaning of peer, friend,
 user in more details? For each case, what is the
 role of Asterisk in SIP world, a UA, a proxy, or
 others?
 
 4) If we only use SIP phone as extensions in Asterisk,
 the SIP phone doesnot associate with outside proxy,
 does Asterisk act as a proxy for inter-extension call
 between the SIP phones? In this case, for the outgoing
 call originating from SIP phone to other network,
 say, PSTN, does Asterisk act as a gateway? (PSTN
 connection with Asterisk is assumed.)
 
 Any comments are welcome, thanks,
 
 kaiduan
 
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