Re: [Asterisk-Users] QoS What to do?

2003-11-03 Thread Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
 If your DSL link is the bottleneck, rather than earlier hops back
 through the providers network, the provider could also prioritize VOIP
 packets going up the DSL line. That requires a cooperating provider,
 of course.

You may also setup a linux box (or another QoS supporting router) on the
inside and tune the communication with queueing there. Read the LARTC
howto for more info.

roy

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] QoS What to do?

2003-11-01 Thread santiago j ruano rincon
hi fred, 

i don't know if this question has been already answered...

i haven't tested it whit asterisk YET, (i have to)

check the following links:

http://luxik.cdi.cz/~devik/qos
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/other-formats/html_single/ADSL-Bandwidth-Management-HOWTO.html

and tell me if you have found a solution


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] QoS What to do?

2003-10-27 Thread Perry E. Metzger

fred alexander [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Can anyone share what has to be done to secure the
 voice and throttle back the data?

Many routers allow you to prioritize certain types of traffic --
effectively letting the packets jump the queue. If you strictly
prioritize the voice packets over data packets, you'll probably do
quite well.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] QoS What to do?

2003-10-27 Thread WipeOut
fred alexander wrote:

Searching the archives there has been some discussion
about the need for QOS routing on a mixed voice data
broadband like ADSL.
Has anyone run * on a production system with voice and
data.
Can anyone share what has to be done to secure the
voice and throttle back the data?
If a linux router is need can that run on the * box to
reduce cost?
All help is gratefully received, so I can plan a
multi-office rollout.
Fred

 

You can't use QOS on the internet.. Its just not supported..

*IF* your ADSL router supports QOS it will only be effective on 
outbaound traffic.. Inbound would still come in as it always has..

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] QoS What to do?

2003-10-27 Thread Perry E. Metzger

WipeOut [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 You can't use QOS on the internet.. Its just not supported..
 
 *IF* your ADSL router supports QOS it will only be effective on
 outbaound traffic.. Inbound would still come in as it always has..

If your DSL link is the bottleneck, rather than earlier hops back
through the providers network, the provider could also prioritize VOIP
packets going up the DSL line. That requires a cooperating provider,
of course.

Perry
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] QoS What to do?

2003-10-27 Thread Rich Adamson

 If a linux router is need can that run on the * box to
 reduce cost?
 
 All help is gratefully received, so I can plan a
 multi-office rollout.
 
 Fred
 
 You can't use QOS on the internet.. Its just not supported..
 
 *IF* your ADSL router supports QOS it will only be effective on 
 outbaound traffic.. Inbound would still come in as it always has..

That's what I thought until we were involved with diagnosing a VoIP
problem on the east coast. The site had a dedicated DS3 with no other
data users. VoIP was choppy and not really usable, however a dsl connection
at the same site sounded good using the exact same equipment.

We found that someone had mucked with the network settings in XP turning
off the QoS support. After re-enabling only that single option and
retesting did the DS3 provide exceptionaly good quality.

Turned out that Worldcom had in fact enabled QoS (on at least a portion
of their backbone network) between the east coast and midwest. It impacted
both directions.  I was surprised, and I've been doing 100% corporate 
networking for 20+ years.

Rich


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RE: [Asterisk-Users] QoS What to do?

2003-10-27 Thread Adams, Gavin
 -Original Message-
 From: Perry E. Metzger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 fred alexander [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  Can anyone share what has to be done to secure the
  voice and throttle back the data?
 
 Many routers allow you to prioritize certain types of traffic --
 effectively letting the packets jump the queue. If you strictly
 prioritize the voice packets over data packets, you'll probably do
 quite well.

For Cisco routers, look at the fair-queuing modes (but stay away from
weighted fair queuing as that can have a deleterious effect on VoIP
traffic).

Under Linux, check out http://lartc.org/ which deals with configuring
routing under Linux with traffic shaping.

For asymmetric configurations such as Cable/DSL, if you are willing to
lower your download by and upload speeds by a bit, you can get nominal
quality even with large downloads that would normally saturate your
link.

Under Cisco, look to setup multiple queues at different priorities.
These can then be assigned to the WAN links (serial, etc). For Linux,
look at http://lartc.org/howto/lartc.cookbook.ultimate-tc.html. That's
what I use at home with my Vonage connection (soon to be a trunk line to
my * install :). Drops download speeds from 1.5Mbit to about 1.4Mbit and
uploads go from 256Kbit to 210Kbit.

You're on your own across the Internet as a whole, but in the past 3
years I have seen very little to no tier 1 or tier 2 provider
congestion, including trans-atlantic connections. YMMV, IMHO, etc.

Regards,

--- Gavin
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] QoS What to do?

2003-10-27 Thread Perry E. Metzger

Adams, Gavin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 For Cisco routers, look at the fair-queuing modes (but stay away from
 weighted fair queuing as that can have a deleterious effect on VoIP
 traffic).
 
 Under Linux, check out http://lartc.org/ which deals with configuring
 routing under Linux with traffic shaping.

On NetBSD, you want altq. I don't remember if FreeBSD uses altq or
some similar mechanism.

Perry
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