Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: delaying answer for a number of ringsor an amount

2006-02-06 Thread Joseph Tanner
 well I've heard that there are open source IP phones given away for free
 in WALMART, I'm seriously thinking to get couple of 'em!!

What phone would this be?  I didn't notice any, but there's 5-6
Wal-Marts within an hour's drive, I'd love to try to find some.  Never
can have too many.  Are they regular IP phones that connect via
ethernet, or do they plug in via usb?  I wouldn't want any usb ones
for myself, but my dad could use one.

Joseph Tanner


 Truely/

 Joe Tahan
  
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 Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2006 09:49:08 -0500

 On Sun, 2006-02-05 at 05:28 -0600, Joseph Tanner wrote:
  
   Again, give everyone in your home/office a phone connected to asterisk
   (whether it's a sip/iax phone, or a regular phone connected to an ATA,
   or what have you).
 
 Sure. Wanna send me some ATAs or even IP phones?
 
 It's all about budget dude. Not everyone has the $$ to outfit the whole
 house with IP and IP phones right away.
 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: delaying answer for a number of ringsor an amount

2006-02-06 Thread Gonzalo Servat
On 2/6/06, Joseph Tanner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  well I've heard that there are open source IP phones given away for free
  in WALMART, I'm seriously thinking to get couple of 'em!!

 What phone would this be?  I didn't notice any, but there's 5-6
 Wal-Marts within an hour's drive, I'd love to try to find some.  Never
 can have too many.  Are they regular IP phones that connect via
 ethernet, or do they plug in via usb?  I wouldn't want any usb ones
 for myself, but my dad could use one.

Oh they're giving away both types! and if you hurry, you get a free
Asterisk box to go with it! go go go!
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: delaying answer for a number of ringsor an amount

2006-02-06 Thread Joseph Tanner
Funny funny.  In this day of free (after rebate) PAP2s, a free (again,
I assumed after rebate) IP phone seemed plausible.  BTW, check
walmart.com, they do indeed sell ip phones.

I guess I'll just have to use one of my free DTA310s or my free PAP2 instead.

Joseph Tanner

On 2/6/06, Gonzalo Servat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 2/6/06, Joseph Tanner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   well I've heard that there are open source IP phones given away for free
   in WALMART, I'm seriously thinking to get couple of 'em!!
 
  What phone would this be?  I didn't notice any, but there's 5-6
  Wal-Marts within an hour's drive, I'd love to try to find some.  Never
  can have too many.  Are they regular IP phones that connect via
  ethernet, or do they plug in via usb?  I wouldn't want any usb ones
  for myself, but my dad could use one.

 Oh they're giving away both types! and if you hurry, you get a free
 Asterisk box to go with it! go go go!
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: delaying answer for a number of ringsor an amount

2006-02-06 Thread Gonzalo Servat
On 2/6/06, Joseph Tanner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Funny funny.  In this day of free (after rebate) PAP2s, a free (again,
 I assumed after rebate) IP phone seemed plausible.  BTW, check
 walmart.com, they do indeed sell ip phones.

 I guess I'll just have to use one of my free DTA310s or my free PAP2 instead.

... and even if they *did* indeed give away free phones, which is
unimaginable as they're in the business of MAKING money by SELLING, do
you really think people are going to come here and tell the world
about it?

Bit gullible, aren't ya... ;-)
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: delaying answer for a number of ringsor an amount

2006-02-06 Thread Joseph Tanner
There's idiots that tell people about free, and cheaper-than-free
deals all the time.  Here's just one such idiot:
http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/messageview.php?start=0catid=24threadid=524641

BTW, the idea is to get all that you want for yourself first, THEN
tell everyone about the deal.

Again, I'm thinkin free = FAR (free after rebate).  But, I have seen
at least one time, a completely, 100% free item, no rebates, no
gimmicks, advertised.  I believe it was OfficeMax, and was some kind
of check printing software.  It was advertised as being free without
rebates, was not a misprint, and people were having no problems
walking out the door with it without paying a penny.

Now, had you said these phones were 100% free, no rebates or anything,
completely unlocked, no service plans needed, etcthen I would have
seriously doubted you, enough that I wouldn't even bother calling
anyone up to verify the deal (though if I was already in a Wal-Mart,
and in the right section, I might just glance to make sure).

But, in the interest of getting this thread back on track:

Boy oh boy am I stupid!  Man oh man, you pulled one over on me.  I
must be the most stupidest idiotest dumb there is!  Hahaha!  Good
one!

Joseph Tanner

On 2/6/06, Gonzalo Servat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 2/6/06, Joseph Tanner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Funny funny.  In this day of free (after rebate) PAP2s, a free (again,
  I assumed after rebate) IP phone seemed plausible.  BTW, check
  walmart.com, they do indeed sell ip phones.
 
  I guess I'll just have to use one of my free DTA310s or my free PAP2 
  instead.

 ... and even if they *did* indeed give away free phones, which is
 unimaginable as they're in the business of MAKING money by SELLING, do
 you really think people are going to come here and tell the world
 about it?

 Bit gullible, aren't ya... ;-)
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: delaying answer for a number of ringsor an amount

2006-02-05 Thread ammar Ali
well I've heard that there are "open source" IP phones given away for free in WALMART, I'm seriously thinking to get couple of 'em!!
Truely/
Joe Tahan


From: "Brian J. Murrell" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussionasterisk-users@lists.digium.comTo: asterisk-users@lists.digium.comSubject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: delaying "answer" for a number of ringsor an amountDate: Sun, 05 Feb 2006 09:49:08 -0500On Sun, 2006-02-05 at 05:28 -0600, Joseph Tanner wrote:   Again, give everyone in your home/office a phone connected to asterisk  (whether it's a sip/iax phone, or a regular phone connected to an ATA,  or what have you).Sure. Wanna send me some ATAs or even IP phones?It's all about budget dude. Not everyone has the $$ to outfit the wholehouse with IP and IP phones right away.b.--My other computer is your Microsoft Windows server.Brian J. Murrell
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: delaying answer for a number of ringsor an amount of time

2006-02-03 Thread Wilson Pickett
 Right.  My original question was about making Asterisk wait a number or
 rings (or amount of time) before picking up a Zap line.  If the
 rings/time were not reached while the line is still ringing, do nothing.

As someone must have already said, it's not a good idea to share lines
with asterisk. This said, when we first began to use asterisk, I
needed a way to have it NOT pickup when we temporarily had phones in
parellel on the same 2 lines. When a line was flagged in the database
as /pickup1=0 the dialpan did a goto(do-nothing,s,1)

[do-nothing]
exten = s,1,AbsoluteTimeout(0)
exten = s,2,NoOp(doing nothing: call came if with flag set to noanswer)
exten = s,3,Wait(70)
exten = t,1,Hangup

The above code made asterisk *never* pickup, so it must be possible,
though not  good practice, to do what you want, unless things have
changed in more recent versions.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: delaying answer for a number of ringsor an amount of time

2006-02-03 Thread Brian J. Murrell
On Fri, 2006-02-03 at 12:19 +0100, Wilson Pickett wrote:
 
 As someone must have already said, it's not a good idea to share lines
 with asterisk.

Well, yeah, ideally I have the phones on an FSX, but a) I don't have one
yet and b) I want to make sure I am happy with running a PBX before I
invest in a.  :-)

 The above code made asterisk *never* pickup, so it must be possible,

I hope so.  I'm going to dig into source to see.  :-/

b.

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Re: delaying answer for a number of ringsor an amount of time

2006-02-02 Thread gw
No, it will dial like a pass-through simultaneously to sip/iax
extensions.  If you were to dial out to an analog port though, that
would be different.

So in essence, you can have all the phones ringing at the same time.

Greg 

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On Thu, 2006-02-02 at 15:24 -0700, Bromont Quebec wrote:
 You need to take that Wait and Answer out of there
 
 [from-pots]
 exten = s,1,Dial(SIP/brianSIP/joe,30) exten = s,2,Voicemail(u2001) 
 exten = s,3,Hangup exten = s,102,Voicemail(b2001) exten = 
 s,103,Hangup exten = h,1,Hangup exten = i,1,Hangup

How does doing only that prevent Asterisk from picking up the POTS line
for a period of time (like 3 or 4 rings... or 10 seconds or so to give a
handset on the same POTS line an opportunity to pick it up first --
think answering machine)?  As I understand it removing the Wait and
Answer would cause Asterisk to pick the POTS line up right away and dial
brian and joe's phones with it.

Am I missing something?

b.

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Re: delaying answer for a number of ringsor an amount of time

2006-02-02 Thread Brian J. Murrell
On Thu, 2006-02-02 at 21:22 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 No, it will dial like a pass-through simultaneously to sip/iax
 extensions.

Right.  As I thought.

   If you were to dial out to an analog port though, that
 would be different.
 
 So in essence, you can have all the phones ringing at the same time.

Right.  My original question was about making Asterisk wait a number or
rings (or amount of time) before picking up a Zap line.  If the
rings/time were not reached while the line is still ringing, do nothing.

This allows a handset *on the same POTS line* as Asterisk to pick up and
Asterisk does nothing.  But if nobody picks up the POTS line (that
asterisk is on too) then it picks up.

I essentially want Asterisk to be an answering machine on the line.

b.

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