Re: [Asterisk-Users] Room Monitor

2004-02-20 Thread Jamin W. Collins
On Thu, Feb 19, 2004 at 04:06:50PM -0500, James Golovich wrote:
 
 To bring this back on topic.  Have you considered leaving a phone with
 the handset off the base, or speakerphone turned on in the room?  Set
 the zap channel to immediate and send it to a special context.  Have
 the s extension send into a meetme that is talker only and then all
 you have to do is dial into the meetme and monitor the call.

No, I hadn't.  These features didn't exist when I first looked into
Asterisk and started messing with it (about 2 years ago or so).  That's
one of the reasons I thought I'd ask here.  I figured someone might have
a viable suggestion.  Right now we've just configured to speaker phones
and call one from the other and mute the listener.  It's working much
better than the monitor (no static, YAY!).

I'd be interested in any pointer you could provide on the above
configuration.

We did try the Radio Shack FM solution and it was marginally better than
the existing baby monitor.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Room Monitor

2004-02-19 Thread Steve
On Monday 16 February 2004 08:51 pm, Jamin W. Collins wrote:
 Do any of you know of a cost effect device that could be connected to
 an Asterisk station port to provide room monitoring?  I'm looking to
 replace the wireless baby monitor we currently have, since there is
 too much interference between our daughter's room and our room for it
 to work effectively.

Hmm, lowcost eh? Why not just make a call into your bedroom, from baby's 
room? If you need to make another call place her's on hold, or have two 
extensions in your room. Put that analog phone in speaker mode and 
you're set.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Room Monitor

2004-02-19 Thread Jim Flagg
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From: Greg Hill
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Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 9:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Room Monitor


 On Wed, 18 Feb 2004, Jamin W. Collins wrote:
 
  On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 10:04:02PM -0800, David Liu wrote:
   Well use a Polycom IP 500 and put to auto answer and ringer off.  Then you
   can use it as a room monitor device.
 
  Seems like that could do the trick.  However, I was hoping for a sub
  $200 solution.  Anyone know of a less expensive solution?
 
 If you've got an old PC lying around collecting dust (probably most of us
 do!) then you could install asterisk on it, configure it for auto-answer
 on the console, and then hook it up to your main asterisk server via
 sip/iax/whatever. Maybe best if it's got a quiet power supply fan.. then
 again, maybe the baby will appreciate the background noise.

Or even easier, get a microphone and  run the wire back to the sound card
of your Asterisk computer.

Depending on distance you may need an audio amplifier/extender.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Room Monitor

2004-02-19 Thread Walt Reed
On Thu, Feb 19, 2004 at 10:01:37AM -0500, Jim Flagg said:
 - Original Message - 
 From: Greg Hill
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 9:24 PM
 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Room Monitor
 
 
  On Wed, 18 Feb 2004, Jamin W. Collins wrote:
  
   On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 10:04:02PM -0800, David Liu wrote:
Well use a Polycom IP 500 and put to auto answer and ringer off.  Then you
can use it as a room monitor device.
  
   Seems like that could do the trick.  However, I was hoping for a sub
   $200 solution.  Anyone know of a less expensive solution?
  
  If you've got an old PC lying around collecting dust (probably most of us
  do!) then you could install asterisk on it, configure it for auto-answer
  on the console, and then hook it up to your main asterisk server via
  sip/iax/whatever. Maybe best if it's got a quiet power supply fan.. then
  again, maybe the baby will appreciate the background noise.
 
 Or even easier, get a microphone and  run the wire back to the sound card
 of your Asterisk computer.
 
 Depending on distance you may need an audio amplifier/extender.

Hmm. Is it just me, or does this sound like a sledgehammer for a
thumbtack kind of application?

Radioshack has cheap intercoms that work fairly well. They have 900Mhz
wireless and FM over powerline versions. Most cheap baby monitors are in
the 27Mhz band which sucks and is very prone to static. They are also
made for $3 in china with NO QA and horrible parts using 1970's
technology.

A couple years ago, I also used a siemens cordless gigaset that had a
room monitor function. When the baby made noise it called another
intercom extension. This only worked for gigaset to gigaset and didn't
go over the normal phoneline. 

You may also want to look at a better model of intercom.
http://www.fisher-price.com/us/babygear/product.asp?id=17605c=bgm
Uses 900Mhz.


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Room Monitor

2004-02-19 Thread Jamin W. Collins
On Thu, Feb 19, 2004 at 10:28:09AM -0500, Walt Reed wrote:
 
 Hmm. Is it just me, or does this sound like a sledgehammer for a
 thumbtack kind of application?
 
 Radioshack has cheap intercoms that work fairly well. They have 900Mhz
 wireless and FM over powerline versions. Most cheap baby monitors are
 in the 27Mhz band which sucks and is very prone to static. They are
 also made for $3 in china with NO QA and horrible parts using 1970's
 technology.

Actually the baby monitors tend to be in the 47Mhz band, but yes they
still suck.  There are newer models in the 900Mhz and 2.4Ghz range.
However, reviews of the 900Mhz models are almost unanimous in declaring
them to be worse than the 47Mhz models.  While my experience with 2.4Ghz
phones indicates that they will trash most 802.11b networks.

So, I'm trying to move away from the wireless solution.  Mainly, due to
the interference between the two locations.

The three station FM solution looks promising.  That is if it can deal
with the stations being on different breakers within the same residence.

 You may also want to look at a better model of intercom.
 http://www.fisher-price.com/us/babygear/product.asp?id=17605c=bgm
 Uses 900Mhz.

Several reviews of this model indicate severe static problems.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Room Monitor

2004-02-19 Thread James Golovich


On Thu, 19 Feb 2004, Jamin W. Collins wrote:

 Actually the baby monitors tend to be in the 47Mhz band, but yes they
 still suck.  There are newer models in the 900Mhz and 2.4Ghz range.
 However, reviews of the 900Mhz models are almost unanimous in declaring
 them to be worse than the 47Mhz models.  While my experience with 2.4Ghz
 phones indicates that they will trash most 802.11b networks.
 
 So, I'm trying to move away from the wireless solution.  Mainly, due to
 the interference between the two locations.
 
 The three station FM solution looks promising.  That is if it can deal
 with the stations being on different breakers within the same residence.
 
  You may also want to look at a better model of intercom.
  http://www.fisher-price.com/us/babygear/product.asp?id=17605c=bgm
  Uses 900Mhz.
 
 Several reviews of this model indicate severe static problems.

To bring this back on topic.  Have you considered leaving a phone with the
handset off the base, or speakerphone turned on in the room?  Set the zap
channel to immediate and send it to a special context.  Have the s
extension send into a meetme that is talker only and then all you have to
do is dial into the meetme and monitor the call.

James

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Room Monitor

2004-02-18 Thread Jamin W. Collins
On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 10:04:02PM -0800, David Liu wrote:
 Well use a Polycom IP 500 and put to auto answer and ringer off.  Then you
 can use it as a room monitor device.

Seems like that could do the trick.  However, I was hoping for a sub
$200 solution.  Anyone know of a less expensive solution?

-- 
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you absolutely need it. -- Vineet Kumar
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Room Monitor

2004-02-18 Thread Regovich, Timothy
Two coffee cans and a tight string?

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On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 10:04:02PM -0800, David Liu wrote:
 Well use a Polycom IP 500 and put to auto answer and ringer off.  Then you
 can use it as a room monitor device.

Seems like that could do the trick.  However, I was hoping for a sub
$200 solution.  Anyone know of a less expensive solution?

-- 
Jamin W. Collins

Remember, root always has a loaded gun.  Don't run around with it unless
you absolutely need it. -- Vineet Kumar
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Room Monitor

2004-02-18 Thread Jonathan Moore
I think the Grandstream Budgetone has an auto answer option. Not sure how good
the mic pickup is, but you could probably wire in a better mic cheap and that
would only run you about $65 plus shipping.

Happy monitoring.
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Quoting Jamin W. Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 10:04:02PM -0800, David Liu wrote:
  Well use a Polycom IP 500 and put to auto answer and ringer off.  Then you
  can use it as a room monitor device.
 
 Seems like that could do the trick.  However, I was hoping for a sub
 $200 solution.  Anyone know of a less expensive solution?
 
 -- 
 Jamin W. Collins
 
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 you absolutely need it. -- Vineet Kumar
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Room Monitor

2004-02-18 Thread Jamin W. Collins
On Wed, Feb 18, 2004 at 01:58:19PM -0600, Jonathan Moore wrote:
 OK, I think I was wrong on the Grandstream. I loaded up the web config and I am
 not seeing the option. I would suggest contacting them directly to see. If not
 that I am pretty sure the snom100 has an auto answer mode.

It's listed as a feature of the 105e model but that seems to be back up
in the ~$200 range.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Room Monitor

2004-02-18 Thread Greg Hill
On Wed, 18 Feb 2004, Jamin W. Collins wrote:

 On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 10:04:02PM -0800, David Liu wrote:
  Well use a Polycom IP 500 and put to auto answer and ringer off.  Then you
  can use it as a room monitor device.

 Seems like that could do the trick.  However, I was hoping for a sub
 $200 solution.  Anyone know of a less expensive solution?

If you've got an old PC lying around collecting dust (probably most of us
do!) then you could install asterisk on it, configure it for auto-answer
on the console, and then hook it up to your main asterisk server via
sip/iax/whatever. Maybe best if it's got a quiet power supply fan.. then
again, maybe the baby will appreciate the background noise.

Greg


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Room Monitor

2004-02-17 Thread Jonathan Moore
What about a phone, analog or IP, put in an auto answer mode?


-- 
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Director of Technology
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Office 620.221.5100
Fax 620.221.0508


Quoting Jamin W. Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Do any of you know of a cost effect device that could be connected to an
 Asterisk station port to provide room monitoring?  I'm looking to
 replace the wireless baby monitor we currently have, since there is too
 much interference between our daughter's room and our room for it to
 work effectively.
 
 I've found a few items[1-4] that seem to provide the feature I'm looking
 for,
 but they seem much more expensive than necessary.
 
 Essentially, I'm looking for something that I can assign an extension on
 asterisk to and then call from another station to activate monitoring.
 Any ideas are welcome.
 
 [1] - http://www.spyandsecuritystore.com/informer.html
 [2] - http://shop.store.yahoo.com/spytechagency/11435.html
 [3] - http://www.talkingelectronics.com/security/room_devices.html
 [4] - http://www.surveillance-spy-cameras.com/room-monitor.htm
 -- 
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 and day to make you everybody else is to fight the hardest battle any
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Room Monitor

2004-02-17 Thread Jamin W. Collins
On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 11:36:20PM -0600, Jonathan Moore wrote:
 What about a phone, analog or IP, put in an auto answer mode?

Do you know of any off hand that support this?  Perhaps one with the
ability to turn off the ringer?

-- 
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and day to make you everybody else is to fight the hardest battle any
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Room Monitor

2004-02-17 Thread David Liu
Well use a Polycom IP 500 and put to auto answer and ringer off.  Then you
can use it as a room monitor device.


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 On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 11:36:20PM -0600, Jonathan Moore wrote:
  What about a phone, analog or IP, put in an auto answer mode?

 Do you know of any off hand that support this?  Perhaps one with the
 ability to turn off the ringer?

 -- 
 Jamin W. Collins

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 and day to make you everybody else is to fight the hardest battle any
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