Re: [Asterisk-Users] Skype vs. an Xlite registered to Asterisk

2006-02-27 Thread Alejandro Vargas
2006/2/26, hugolivude <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I have a bunch of road warriors who I've set up with Xlite clients.
> Unfortunately the sound quality has been intermittent at best.

What codec dis you use?? I think xlite support speex, that is the
better codec I've tested when connections are under hevy traffic (p2p
applications). G729 is good too, but Speex really worked great in my
tests.

>  Sometimes
> I was thinking about trying an Xlite client that can support G729.  Anyone
> had experience with that?  Does it significantly improve voice quality?

What you need to improve (or decress) is the bandwidth usage.

Check this: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Bandwidth+consumption
but try speex if it is supported by your sip phone. It is free,
variable bitrate and adapts to the available bandwidth, (it is based
on ogg codec).

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Skype vs. an Xlite registered to Asterisk

2006-02-26 Thread Martin Joseph


On Feb 26, 2006, at 5:43 PM, hugolivude wrote:


Say, thanks to all you for your time in responding. 

 I hope I don't sound unappreciative (I have no time for flamers) but 
I don't understand how changing from SIP to IAX would make any 
difference.  I don't have any problems with the signalling (i.e. 
phones ring when I make and receive calls), the problem is with the 
media.  Aren't the signalling (IAX/SIP) and media (presumably a 
function of the codec) two seperate and distinct domains?


 Maybe I have it all wrong, so I'd be keen to learn what I'm missing.


I think you have it all wrong ;~)

SIP uses multiple ports to communicate from client to host.  The 
negotiation usually occurs on port 5060, but the audio is elsewhere.


IAX2 uses a single port for everything, hence all NAT/firewall routing 
issues are simplified.


I also prefer IAX2, and just to chime in, there is an excellent new 
Softphone for Mac OSX called JackenIAX (dumb name) that seems to be 
superb although it's still in beta.



Marty

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Skype vs. an Xlite registered to Asterisk

2006-02-26 Thread hugolivude
Say, thanks to all you for your time in responding.  

I hope I don't sound unappreciative (I have no time for flamers) but I
don't understand how changing from SIP to IAX would make any
difference.  I don't have any problems with the signalling (i.e.
phones ring when I make and receive calls), the problem is with the
media.  Aren't the signalling (IAX/SIP) and media (presumably a
function of the codec) two seperate and distinct domains?

Maybe I have it all wrong, so I'd be keen to learn what I'm missing.

Thanks again,
Hugh

On 2/26/06, Guillermo Salas M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Sun, 2006-02-26 at 15:50 -0600, Michael Graves wrote:> I second this...as a road warrior myself I find too many places where> SIP clients just won't work. So I rely on Firely over IAX2 which has> been 100% reliable.
>I'm using idefisk softphone with iLBC on my Debian roadwarrior laptopand works very nice.> Also, John Todd has been using the PSGW Skype<>SIP gateway software in> new and different ways. Perhaps that's an option.
>> On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 18:30:07 +0100, asterisk wrote:>> >Hi> >I have good results in using, the old very (free) of firefly (IAX2),> >with g729!> >> >rgds
> >Jesper Langpap> >> >hugolivude wrote:> >>> >> I have a bunch of road warriors who I've set up with Xlite clients.> >> Unfortunately the sound quality has been intermittent at best.
> >> Sometimes it's great other times completely unusable.  When it's bad> >> one usually hears harsh static when the other party speaks or their> >> voice gets "clipped" to static if they speak too loudly.
> >>> >> Many of these users have migrated to Skype – much to my chagrin!  I'd> >> like to get them back using a SIP client so they can take advantage of> >> all Asterisk can offer.
> >>> >> Anyone else had trouble with voice quality with Xlite?  Any work arounds?> >>> >> I was thinking about trying an Xlite client that can support G729.> >> Anyone had experience with that?  Does it significantly improve voice
> >> quality?> >>> >> I also read that SJ Phone is better than XLite, but is it really the> >> client application that makes the biggest difference or the codec?> >> Perhaps it's a combination or something entirely different?  Anyone
> >> with experience with an SJ Phone and G729 codec?> >>> >> Any suggestions welcome!> >>> >> Yours,> >> Hugh> >>> >> 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Skype vs. an Xlite registered to Asterisk

2006-02-26 Thread Guillermo Salas M
On Sun, 2006-02-26 at 15:50 -0600, Michael Graves wrote:
> I second this...as a road warrior myself I find too many places where
> SIP clients just won't work. So I rely on Firely over IAX2 which has
> been 100% reliable.
> 

I'm using idefisk softphone with iLBC on my Debian roadwarrior laptop
and works very nice.

> Also, John Todd has been using the PSGW Skype<>SIP gateway software in
> new and different ways. Perhaps that's an option.
> 
> On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 18:30:07 +0100, asterisk wrote:
> 
> >Hi
> >I have good results in using, the old very (free) of firefly (IAX2), 
> >with g729!
> >
> >rgds
> >Jesper Langpap
> >
> >hugolivude wrote:
> >>
> >> I have a bunch of road warriors who I've set up with Xlite clients.  
> >> Unfortunately the sound quality has been intermittent at best.  
> >> Sometimes it's great other times completely unusable.  When it's bad 
> >> one usually hears harsh static when the other party speaks or their 
> >> voice gets "clipped" to static if they speak too loudly.
> >>
> >> Many of these users have migrated to Skype – much to my chagrin!  I'd 
> >> like to get them back using a SIP client so they can take advantage of 
> >> all Asterisk can offer.
> >>
> >> Anyone else had trouble with voice quality with Xlite?  Any work arounds?
> >>
> >> I was thinking about trying an Xlite client that can support G729.  
> >> Anyone had experience with that?  Does it significantly improve voice 
> >> quality?
> >>
> >> I also read that SJ Phone is better than XLite, but is it really the 
> >> client application that makes the biggest difference or the codec?  
> >> Perhaps it's a combination or something entirely different?  Anyone 
> >> with experience with an SJ Phone and G729 codec?
> >>
> >> Any suggestions welcome!
> >>
> >> Yours,
> >> Hugh
> >>
> >> P.S> Asterisk 1.2 on Redhat 9.0
> >>
> >> 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Skype vs. an Xlite registered to Asterisk

2006-02-26 Thread Michael Graves
I second this...as a road warrior myself I find too many places where
SIP clients just won't work. So I rely on Firely over IAX2 which has
been 100% reliable.

Also, John Todd has been using the PSGW Skype<>SIP gateway software in
new and different ways. Perhaps that's an option.

On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 18:30:07 +0100, asterisk wrote:

>Hi
>I have good results in using, the old very (free) of firefly (IAX2), 
>with g729!
>
>rgds
>Jesper Langpap
>
>hugolivude wrote:
>>
>> I have a bunch of road warriors who I've set up with Xlite clients.  
>> Unfortunately the sound quality has been intermittent at best.  
>> Sometimes it's great other times completely unusable.  When it's bad 
>> one usually hears harsh static when the other party speaks or their 
>> voice gets "clipped" to static if they speak too loudly.
>>
>> Many of these users have migrated to Skype – much to my chagrin!  I'd 
>> like to get them back using a SIP client so they can take advantage of 
>> all Asterisk can offer.
>>
>> Anyone else had trouble with voice quality with Xlite?  Any work arounds?
>>
>> I was thinking about trying an Xlite client that can support G729.  
>> Anyone had experience with that?  Does it significantly improve voice 
>> quality?
>>
>> I also read that SJ Phone is better than XLite, but is it really the 
>> client application that makes the biggest difference or the codec?  
>> Perhaps it's a combination or something entirely different?  Anyone 
>> with experience with an SJ Phone and G729 codec?
>>
>> Any suggestions welcome!
>>
>> Yours,
>> Hugh
>>
>> P.S> Asterisk 1.2 on Redhat 9.0
>>
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Skype vs. an Xlite registered to Asterisk

2006-02-26 Thread asterisk

Hi
I have good results in using, the old very (free) of firefly (IAX2), 
with g729!


rgds
Jesper Langpap

hugolivude wrote:


I have a bunch of road warriors who I've set up with Xlite clients.  
Unfortunately the sound quality has been intermittent at best.  
Sometimes it's great other times completely unusable.  When it's bad 
one usually hears harsh static when the other party speaks or their 
voice gets "clipped" to static if they speak too loudly.


Many of these users have migrated to Skype – much to my chagrin!  I'd 
like to get them back using a SIP client so they can take advantage of 
all Asterisk can offer.


Anyone else had trouble with voice quality with Xlite?  Any work arounds?

I was thinking about trying an Xlite client that can support G729.  
Anyone had experience with that?  Does it significantly improve voice 
quality?


I also read that SJ Phone is better than XLite, but is it really the 
client application that makes the biggest difference or the codec?  
Perhaps it's a combination or something entirely different?  Anyone 
with experience with an SJ Phone and G729 codec?


Any suggestions welcome!

Yours,
Hugh

P.S> Asterisk 1.2 on Redhat 9.0



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