Re: [Asterisk-Users] Where can i get an UK SIP account with UK number?

2004-07-17 Thread Linus Surguy
   network but say you have a local std code and you wanted to use that
with a
   VoIP provider in the UK - in most instances you cant.  Some are
available to
   offer STD codes in certain towns but not all.
 
  It is possible to port geographic numbers between providers - I was able
  to port from BT to NTL.

http://www.btwholesale.com/content/binaries/service_and_support/pricing_information/carrier_price_list_browsable/b1_08.rtf

 Tells you how much geographic number portability costs with BT, though
 you may also need to refer to other schedules if you intend to transit
 those calls over BT's network to wherever you connect to them.

 The only people who do it effectively have interconnects with BT in
 most exchanges, thus keeping these conveyance charges down. They would
 mostly be the cable operators, of course.

We are in the process of establishing geographic portability arrangements in
the UK for exactly this purpose. However, the paperwork involved is very
time consuming to initiate a porting arrangement between one operator and
another, and you have to do it for each and every operator you wish to port
to/from. This is why most people are unable to offer it.

Linus

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Where can i get an UK SIP account with UK number?

2004-07-16 Thread Mark Turner
Dameon D. Welch-Abernathy wrote:
There are probably others.
Such as www.intervivo.net.
Cheers,
Mark.
p.s. I work there.
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Where can i get an UK SIP account with UK number?

2004-07-16 Thread Chris Bond
What I want to know is why you can port mobile numbers from network to
network but say you have a local std code and you wanted to use that with a
VoIP provider in the UK - in most instances you cant.  Some are available to
offer STD codes in certain towns but not all.

Surely someone in the UK needs to address this issue for VoIP to become a
more common?  Its probably more of a oftel/ofcom thing.

Kind Regards,
Chris Bond

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Dameon D. Welch-Abernathy wrote:
 
 There are probably others.

Such as www.intervivo.net.

Cheers,

Mark.

p.s. I work there.
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Where can i get an UK SIP account with UK number?

2004-07-16 Thread steve


On Fri, 16 Jul 2004, Chris Bond wrote:

 What I want to know is why you can port mobile numbers from network to
 network but say you have a local std code and you wanted to use that with a
 VoIP provider in the UK - in most instances you cant.  Some are available to
 offer STD codes in certain towns but not all.
 
 Surely someone in the UK needs to address this issue for VoIP to become a
 more common?  Its probably more of a oftel/ofcom thing.


It is possible to port geographic numbers between providers - I was able 
to port from BT to NTL.

So there is a process for doing it.  But I believe the new operator needs 
to have routes to accept the ported calls.  Presumably most do not have 
those routes.

Steve

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Where can i get an UK SIP account with UK number?

2004-07-16 Thread Steve Kennedy
On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 03:50:40PM +0100, Chris Bond wrote:

 What I want to know is why you can port mobile numbers from network to
 network but say you have a local std code and you wanted to use that with a
 VoIP provider in the UK - in most instances you cant.  Some are available to
 offer STD codes in certain towns but not all.
 Surely someone in the UK needs to address this issue for VoIP to become a
 more common?  Its probably more of a oftel/ofcom thing.

You can port numbers between telcos, but lots of VoIP providers are just
reselling minutes off someone else.


Steve

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Where can i get an UK SIP account with UK number?

2004-07-16 Thread Chris Luke
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote (on Jul 16):
 On Fri, 16 Jul 2004, Chris Bond wrote:
  What I want to know is why you can port mobile numbers from network to
  network but say you have a local std code and you wanted to use that with a
  VoIP provider in the UK - in most instances you cant.  Some are available to
  offer STD codes in certain towns but not all.
 
 It is possible to port geographic numbers between providers - I was able 
 to port from BT to NTL.
 
 So there is a process for doing it.  But I believe the new operator needs 
 to have routes to accept the ported calls.  Presumably most do not have 
 those routes.

http://www.btwholesale.com/content/binaries/service_and_support/pricing_information/carrier_price_list_browsable/b1_08.rtf

Tells you how much geographic number portability costs with BT, though
you may also need to refer to other schedules if you intend to transit
those calls over BT's network to wherever you connect to them.

The only people who do it effectively have interconnects with BT in
most exchanges, thus keeping these conveyance charges down. They would
mostly be the cable operators, of course.

Chris.
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Where can i get an UK SIP account with UK number?

2004-07-16 Thread Kevin Walsh
Mark Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dameon D. Welch-Abernathy wrote:
  
  There are probably others.
 
 Such as www.intervivo.net.
 
 p.s. I work there.

You might want to change the FAQ:

Q. Are you planning on offering non 0845 numbers? 
A. The industry is looking into various alternative numbering options,
   but current geographic numbers are unlikely to be used for voip. 

Perhaps you could change the answer to we don't offer them but most
other providers do.  It'd be a little less misleading.

Also:

Q. Is caller ID provided on the line? 
A. No, not at this time. 

Q. Why not?
A. Errm, good question.

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Where can i get an UK SIP account with UK number?

2004-07-16 Thread Kevin Walsh
Chris Bond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 What I want to know is why you can port mobile numbers from network to
 network but say you have a local std code and you wanted to use that with
 a VoIP provider in the UK - in most instances you cant.  Some are
 available to offer STD codes in certain towns but not all.
 
 Surely someone in the UK needs to address this issue for VoIP to become a
 more common?  Its probably more of a oftel/ofcom thing.
 
It's probably a routing issue.  Mobile phones are non-geographical.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Where can i get an UK SIP account with UK number?

2004-07-16 Thread Steve Kennedy
On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 10:49:57AM -0500, Chris Luke wrote:

[stuff snipped]

 http://www.btwholesale.com/content/binaries/service_and_support/pricing_information/carrier_price_list_browsable/b1_08.rtf
 Tells you how much geographic number portability costs with BT, though
 you may also need to refer to other schedules if you intend to transit
 those calls over BT's network to wherever you connect to them.
 The only people who do it effectively have interconnects with BT in
 most exchanges, thus keeping these conveyance charges down. They would
 mostly be the cable operators, of course.

Err I think you'll find people like Energis, CW and THUS have more
connectivity to BT than the cable companies !!!


Steve

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Where can i get an UK SIP account with UK number?

2004-07-15 Thread Yiannis Costopoulos, Web2Net Solutions Ltd.



Hi,

 for SIP account you can use this: http://www.freeworldialup.com/
 for a UK number try this: http://www.calluk.comthe numbers are 
free.

Regards,
Yiannis


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  HulstSent: 14 July 2004 19:42To: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Where can 
  i get an UK SIP account with UK number?
  
  Can somebody help me with some 
  names of good UK SIP providers?
  I am looking for a 
  UK number to connect to my asterisk 
  server.
  Can somebody help 
  me?
  
  Regards,
  
  Han


Re: [Asterisk-Users] Where can i get an UK SIP account with UK number?

2004-07-15 Thread Chris Glover
Also www.voiptalk.org

They can do SIP and IAX.

HTH

Chris

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On Wed, 14 Jul 2004, Dameon D. Welch-Abernathy wrote:

 On Wed, 2004-07-14 at 11:41, Johannes van Hulst wrote:
  Can somebody help me with some names of good UK SIP providers?
 
  I am looking for a UK number to connect to my asterisk server.

 www.gossiptel.com provides UK numbers
 www.iconnecthere.com provides UK numbers

 There are probably others.

 -- PhoneBoy

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Where can i get an UK SIP account with UK number?

2004-07-15 Thread Senad Jordanovic
Title: Message



HI,

If you 
are looking for a UK number just for testing/personal use, I canprovide 
you one.

For 
commercial purpose, numbers should be available by middle of 
september.


Ta
SJ

  
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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Johannes 
  van HulstSent: 14 July 2004 19:42To: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Where can 
  i get an UK SIP account with UK number?
  
  Can somebody help me with some 
  names of good UK SIP providers?
  I am looking for a 
  UK number to connect to my asterisk 
  server.
  Can somebody help 
  me?
  
  Regards,
  
  Han


Re: [Asterisk-Users] Where can i get an UK SIP account with UK number?

2004-07-15 Thread Holger Schurig
 If you babelfish yourself through it, http://www.sipgate.de does it.

Why babelfish?  Decent people speak german.
:-)

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Duitse VOIP provider RE: [Asterisk-Users] Where can i get an UK SIP account with UK number?

2004-07-15 Thread Johannes van Hulst
Gustavo,

Als je duits nog een beetje goed is heb ik hier een duitse provider voor ons

MVG Han

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 If you babelfish yourself through it, http://www.sipgate.de does it.

Why babelfish?  Decent people speak german.
:-)

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Where can i get an UK SIP account with UK number?

2004-07-15 Thread Martin List-Petersen
On Thu, 2004-07-15 at 13:40, Holger Schurig wrote:
  If you babelfish yourself through it, http://www.sipgate.de does it.
 
 Why babelfish?  Decent people speak german.
 :-)

Det kan vel diskuteres. Tysk er ikke alverdens sprog og du forstår nok heller ikke alle
sprog som bliver talt rundtomkring, vel ?

/Martin

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Where can i get an UK SIP account with UK number?

2004-07-14 Thread Dameon D. Welch-Abernathy
On Wed, 2004-07-14 at 11:41, Johannes van Hulst wrote:
 Can somebody help me with some names of good UK SIP providers?
 
 I am looking for a UK number to connect to my asterisk server.

www.gossiptel.com provides UK numbers
www.iconnecthere.com provides UK numbers

There are probably others.

-- PhoneBoy

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Re: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Where can i get an UK SIP account with UK number?

2004-07-14 Thread William Suffill
voiptalk.co.uk

On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 16:36:51 -0700, Dameon D. Welch-Abernathy
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, 2004-07-14 at 11:41, Johannes van Hulst wrote:
  Can somebody help me with some names of good UK SIP providers?
 
  I am looking for a UK number to connect to my asterisk server.
 
 www.gossiptel.com provides UK numbers
 www.iconnecthere.com provides UK numbers
 
 There are probably others.
 
 -- PhoneBoy
 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Where can i get an UK SIP account with UK number?

2004-07-14 Thread Martin List-Petersen
On Thu, 2004-07-15 at 00:36, Dameon D. Welch-Abernathy wrote:
 On Wed, 2004-07-14 at 11:41, Johannes van Hulst wrote:
  Can somebody help me with some names of good UK SIP providers?
  
  I am looking for a UK number to connect to my asterisk server.
 
 www.gossiptel.com provides UK numbers
 www.iconnecthere.com provides UK numbers

If you babelfish yourself through it, http://www.sipgate.de does it.
Currently they are out of UK numbers again, but once they have them you would get
a local London or Reading number.

Kind regards,
Martin List-Petersen


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