Re: [Asterisk-Users] Who would use Asterisk SS7?
We would be a hour 0 user. And probably would also be abel to get some partners to test SS7 interconnect with since it would rid us of a hell of problems :) On Thursday 29 May 2003 2:22 pm, Mike M wrote: On Thursday 29 May 2003 05:27, Patrick wrote: On Thu, 2003-05-29 at 02:36, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 24 May 2003, Thilo Salmon wrote: The other issue is a legal one. In order to connect to the incumbent telco your equipment has to be certified. I believe unless quite a few of us get together, this one might be a real problem. The SS7 equipment from Lucent, Nortel, Alcatel are likely already certified with the carrier you want to link to. They are. No worries about certs from those guys. If not, they are happy to make that happen for you. Also, in Europe you will not get an SS7 link to a carrier unless you are a licensed carrier yourself. True. But you will only be interested in SS7 if you are interested in being a licensed carrier and expanding to handle enough voice channels to make SS7 more cost effective than RBS. This point is at the heart of the original question. Putting SS7 on * is worthwhile only if there are going to be users. If SS7 were available today, would existing * users adopt SS7-IMT and would it interest non-users to become users? Easy solution -- Have * talk to SS7-certified equipment. Cisco comes to mind. They have SS7 gateways that could talk with * as do many others. You can use * to cut out the expensive hardware and only use the bare minimum of the vendor's setup to talk to SS7. -Dan Whatever * is able to cut out, you still need a serious telco budget to actually get the SS7 solution. Given customer requirements, you pass the $500,000 mark in the blink of an eye. And that does not include a service contract for the kit for as long as it is in service. The cost of traditional SS7 equipment is prohibitive for big and small business plans. A low-cost alternative could be a business plan enabler. This may still make sense to some though. If I were to make such investments I would: * become a licensed carrier * install SS7 interconnection gear with all major carriers in the designated area In North America you can connect to a single SS7 network provider and have all the SS7 access you need. SS7 access is separate from IMT access. I would think that connection to a single carrier in Europe would be sufficient to begin with also. * negotiate termination service fees as high as possible With your clients? * get tons of traffic to my network by offering ??? to customers For * I think an attraction is VoIP to PSTN bridging and access to the PSTN user base. This is a technology list so marketing ideas are OT. * profit! The dream of all operators :-). ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Who would use Asterisk SS7?
On Thursday 29 May 2003 09:38, Michael Bielicki wrote: We would be a hour 0 user. And probably would also be abel to get some partners to test SS7 interconnect with since it would rid us of a hell of problems :) :-) I've been following the 2-4 port T1 cards thread closely because that's the kind of application that could benefit from having SS7-IMT. -- Mike M. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Who would use Asterisk SS7?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Easy solution -- Have * talk to SS7-certified equipment. Cisco comes to mind. have you checked the price of e.g. cisco sip/ss7 gw lately? i did a few months ago and it was huge. -- juha ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Who would use Asterisk SS7?
On 24 May 2003, Thilo Salmon wrote: The other issue is a legal one. In order to connect to the incumbent telco your equipment has to be certified. I believe unless quite a few of us get together, this one might be a real problem. Easy solution -- Have * talk to SS7-certified equipment. Cisco comes to mind. They have SS7 gateways that could talk with * as do many others. You can use * to cut out the expensive hardware and only use the bare minimum of the vendor's setup to talk to SS7. -Dan ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Who would use Asterisk SS7?
On Thu, 2003-05-29 at 02:36, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 24 May 2003, Thilo Salmon wrote: The other issue is a legal one. In order to connect to the incumbent telco your equipment has to be certified. I believe unless quite a few of us get together, this one might be a real problem. The SS7 equipment from Lucent, Nortel, Alcatel are likely already certified with the carrier you want to link to. If not, they are happy to make that happen for you. Also, in Europe you will not get an SS7 link to a carrier unless you are a licensed carrier yourself. Easy solution -- Have * talk to SS7-certified equipment. Cisco comes to mind. They have SS7 gateways that could talk with * as do many others. You can use * to cut out the expensive hardware and only use the bare minimum of the vendor's setup to talk to SS7. -Dan Whatever * is able to cut out, you still need a serious telco budget to actually get the SS7 solution. Given customer requirements, you pass the $500,000 mark in the blink of an eye. And that does not include a service contract for the kit for as long as it is in service. This may still make sense to some though. If I were to make such investments I would: * become a licensed carrier * install SS7 interconnection gear with all major carriers in the designated area * negotiate termination service fees as high as possible * get tons of traffic to my network by offering ??? to customers * profit! Suggestions on the ??? part are most welcome :) Regards, Patrick ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
