Re: [Asterisk-Users] origination providers
Hello All, After a wonderful conversation with Mr. O'Shield he asked me to inform the Asterisk community that we run an SS7 network with Los Angeles Area trunks and DID's that we can supply with Fixed costs and NO per minute charges on our inbound trunks. Calls include caller ID. Also we can supply Co-Location, Power, and a fixed amount of non shared Internet bandwidth. This can be used for Calling card providers or call centers. We are tied onto the Verizon Backbone. Please call Michael Schelin at ShellTel 626-814-2354 for more information. Michael D Schelin wrote: Mike - If you don't mind Los Angeles Area DID's then I can supply you with Fixed costs with no per minute charges on your inbound calls. If This is what We sell. Please call Michael Schelin at Shelltel 626-814-2354. Ed Greenberg wrote: Hi Mike, Understand that your supplier will be paying by the minute. What you want is your suppliers worst nightmare. Fixed income and variable (increasing) costs, both to his upstream provider and also in bandwidth, both network and computer. Many of us will be happy to supply you with as many simultaneous calls as you can handle, but we'd all want to be paid in proportion to your usage, or we'd be out of business. Best, --On Tuesday, May 24, 2005 4:10 PM -0400 mike castleman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm not entirely sure what you're asking. The application in question will involve setting up asterisk in a datacenter where we already have a fair amount of bandwidth. As far as the DID provider's portion of the bandwidth, I assume that they would account for this in the rate they quote us. I'm just asking the list if they have any good experiences with origination providers, as my attempts to get them just to return my calls have not been successful. If it's relevant, I imagine gsm or speex codec for this application, but haven't yet made a decision. mike On Tue, May 24, 2005 at 03:42:43PM -0400, Kanuri, Seshu (Company IT) wrote: Assuming that you will need about 12 to 24 simulataneous calls on each DID you want to run, and you are using Ulaw to get these calls, what is the bandwidth that the DID provider has to give you, apart from the DID service? Ulaw needing 64 kbps per line, needs 1.2 mbps for 20 simultaneous calls. Assuming a Data T1 costs about $500 bucks a month and assuming that you need/use the DID for only 8 hours a day at that rate, it costs about $100 per month in data bandwidth alone. Who will pay for this, If it is not Democracynow who is footing the bill? Seshu -- mike castleman network / systems administrator democracy now! mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] tel:+1-212-431-9090 (office) tel:+1-646-382-7220 (mobile) ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] origination providers
Mike - If you don't mind Los Angeles Area DID's then I can supply you with Fixed costs with no per minute charges on your inbound calls. If This is what We sell. Please call Michael Schelin at Shelltel 626-814-2354. Ed Greenberg wrote: Hi Mike, Understand that your supplier will be paying by the minute. What you want is your suppliers worst nightmare. Fixed income and variable (increasing) costs, both to his upstream provider and also in bandwidth, both network and computer. Many of us will be happy to supply you with as many simultaneous calls as you can handle, but we'd all want to be paid in proportion to your usage, or we'd be out of business. Best, --On Tuesday, May 24, 2005 4:10 PM -0400 mike castleman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm not entirely sure what you're asking. The application in question will involve setting up asterisk in a datacenter where we already have a fair amount of bandwidth. As far as the DID provider's portion of the bandwidth, I assume that they would account for this in the rate they quote us. I'm just asking the list if they have any good experiences with origination providers, as my attempts to get them just to return my calls have not been successful. If it's relevant, I imagine gsm or speex codec for this application, but haven't yet made a decision. mike On Tue, May 24, 2005 at 03:42:43PM -0400, Kanuri, Seshu (Company IT) wrote: Assuming that you will need about 12 to 24 simulataneous calls on each DID you want to run, and you are using Ulaw to get these calls, what is the bandwidth that the DID provider has to give you, apart from the DID service? Ulaw needing 64 kbps per line, needs 1.2 mbps for 20 simultaneous calls. Assuming a Data T1 costs about $500 bucks a month and assuming that you need/use the DID for only 8 hours a day at that rate, it costs about $100 per month in data bandwidth alone. Who will pay for this, If it is not Democracynow who is footing the bill? Seshu -- mike castleman network / systems administrator democracy now! mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] tel:+1-212-431-9090 (office) tel:+1-646-382-7220 (mobile) ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] origination providers
Hi Mike, Understand that your supplier will be paying by the minute. What you want is your suppliers worst nightmare. Fixed income and variable (increasing) costs, both to his upstream provider and also in bandwidth, both network and computer. Many of us will be happy to supply you with as many simultaneous calls as you can handle, but we'd all want to be paid in proportion to your usage, or we'd be out of business. Best, --On Tuesday, May 24, 2005 4:10 PM -0400 mike castleman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm not entirely sure what you're asking. The application in question will involve setting up asterisk in a datacenter where we already have a fair amount of bandwidth. As far as the DID provider's portion of the bandwidth, I assume that they would account for this in the rate they quote us. I'm just asking the list if they have any good experiences with origination providers, as my attempts to get them just to return my calls have not been successful. If it's relevant, I imagine gsm or speex codec for this application, but haven't yet made a decision. mike On Tue, May 24, 2005 at 03:42:43PM -0400, Kanuri, Seshu (Company IT) wrote: Assuming that you will need about 12 to 24 simulataneous calls on each DID you want to run, and you are using Ulaw to get these calls, what is the bandwidth that the DID provider has to give you, apart from the DID service? Ulaw needing 64 kbps per line, needs 1.2 mbps for 20 simultaneous calls. Assuming a Data T1 costs about $500 bucks a month and assuming that you need/use the DID for only 8 hours a day at that rate, it costs about $100 per month in data bandwidth alone. Who will pay for this, If it is not Democracynow who is footing the bill? Seshu -- mike castleman network / systems administrator democracy now! mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] tel:+1-212-431-9090 (office) tel:+1-646-382-7220 (mobile) ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] origination providers
I can give you all the simulataneous calls you need for $.02 / min. in the U.S. and Canada. Please call me at 626-814-2354. Michael Schelin Shelltel Kanuri, Seshu (Company IT) wrote: Mike, Many of the providers I've tried contacting either won't call me back, or want me to sign an NDA just to get a rate quote, or some other bullshit. Assuming that you will need about 12 to 24 simulataneous calls on each DID you want to run, and you are using Ulaw to get these calls, what is the bandwidth that the DID provider has to give you, apart from the DID service? Ulaw needing 64 kbps per line, needs 1.2 mbps for 20 simultaneous calls. Assuming a Data T1 costs about $500 bucks a month and assuming that you need/use the DID for only 8 hours a day at that rate, it costs about $100 per month in data bandwidth alone. Who will pay for this, If it is not Democracynow who is footing the bill? Seshu -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of mike castleman Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 3:00 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List Subject: [Asterisk-Users] origination providers hi folks, Has anyone found a good (and, ideally, cheap -- we don't really want any per-minute charges) origination provider which can handle a moderate number of simultaneous incoming calls (to the same, single DID)? Many of the providers I've tried contacting either won't call me back, or want me to sign an NDA just to get a rate quote, or some other bullshit. Most of the providers whose rates are plainly posted on their website have a limit of at most 4 or 6 simultaneous calls, which is not likely to be enough for the application I'm considering. You can reply off-list or on-list, as you prefer. many thanks, mike -- mike castleman network / systems administrator democracy now! mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] tel:+1-212-431-9090 (office) tel:+1-646-382-7220 (mobile) NOTICE: If received in error, please destroy and notify sender. Sender does not waive confidentiality or privilege, and use is prohibited. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] origination providers
I'm not entirely sure what you're asking. The application in question will involve setting up asterisk in a datacenter where we already have a fair amount of bandwidth. As far as the DID provider's portion of the bandwidth, I assume that they would account for this in the rate they quote us. I'm just asking the list if they have any good experiences with origination providers, as my attempts to get them just to return my calls have not been successful. If it's relevant, I imagine gsm or speex codec for this application, but haven't yet made a decision. mike On Tue, May 24, 2005 at 03:42:43PM -0400, Kanuri, Seshu (Company IT) wrote: > > Assuming that you will need about 12 to 24 simulataneous calls on each > DID you want to run, and you are using Ulaw to get these calls, what is > the bandwidth that the DID provider has to give you, apart from the DID > service? > > Ulaw needing 64 kbps per line, needs 1.2 mbps for 20 simultaneous calls. > > > Assuming a Data T1 costs about $500 bucks a month and assuming that you > need/use the DID for only 8 hours a day at that rate, it costs about > $100 per month in data bandwidth alone. > > Who will pay for this, If it is not Democracynow who is footing the > bill? > > Seshu -- mike castleman network / systems administrator democracy now! mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] tel:+1-212-431-9090 (office) tel:+1-646-382-7220 (mobile) ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] origination providers
Mike, > Many of the providers I've tried contacting either > won't call me back, or want me to sign an NDA just > to get a rate quote, or some other bullshit. Assuming that you will need about 12 to 24 simulataneous calls on each DID you want to run, and you are using Ulaw to get these calls, what is the bandwidth that the DID provider has to give you, apart from the DID service? Ulaw needing 64 kbps per line, needs 1.2 mbps for 20 simultaneous calls. Assuming a Data T1 costs about $500 bucks a month and assuming that you need/use the DID for only 8 hours a day at that rate, it costs about $100 per month in data bandwidth alone. Who will pay for this, If it is not Democracynow who is footing the bill? Seshu -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mike castleman Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 3:00 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List Subject: [Asterisk-Users] origination providers hi folks, Has anyone found a good (and, ideally, cheap -- we don't really want any per-minute charges) origination provider which can handle a moderate number of simultaneous incoming calls (to the same, single DID)? Many of the providers I've tried contacting either won't call me back, or want me to sign an NDA just to get a rate quote, or some other bullshit. Most of the providers whose rates are plainly posted on their website have a limit of at most 4 or 6 simultaneous calls, which is not likely to be enough for the application I'm considering. You can reply off-list or on-list, as you prefer. many thanks, mike -- mike castleman network / systems administrator democracy now! mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] tel:+1-212-431-9090 (office) tel:+1-646-382-7220 (mobile) NOTICE: If received in error, please destroy and notify sender. Sender does not waive confidentiality or privilege, and use is prohibited. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users