RE: [Asterisk-Users] voip provider request
Doesn't www.sipgate.co.uk do that? After all, they provide free NCFA numbers to the asking. > -Original Message- > From: trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 9:26 PM > To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com > Subject: [Asterisk-Users] voip provider request > > > I am looking for a voip provider that provides good rates > (below 5 cents/min or unlimited) to UK NCFA numbers. > Braodvoice advertises they do unlimited to NCFA but does not > have the ability to actually termiate those calls as per the > CTO Nathan Stratton, and last he said they dont even have > contracts in place to get service provisioned for that. As > such I am looking for another provider to take over my > broadvoice service. > > If anyone knows one I would greatly appreciate hearing about it. > > > -- > Trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com Bret McDanel > UK +44 870 340 4605 Germany +49 801 777 555 3402 > US +1 360 207 0479 or +1 516 687 5200 > FreeWorldDialup: 635378 > ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] voip provider request
On Fri, 2005-06-03 at 01:17 -0500, Jay Milk wrote: > Doesn't www.sipgate.co.uk do that? After all, they provide free NCFA > numbers to the asking. > You misunderstand I am asking for termination *to* NCFA. I want to be able to call them, as my signature indicates I already have a NCFA for inbound (which is sipgate). > > -Original Message- > > From: trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 9:26 PM > > To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com > > Subject: [Asterisk-Users] voip provider request > > > > > > I am looking for a voip provider that provides good rates > > (below 5 cents/min or unlimited) to UK NCFA numbers. > > Braodvoice advertises they do unlimited to NCFA but does not > > have the ability to actually termiate those calls as per the > > CTO Nathan Stratton, and last he said they dont even have > > contracts in place to get service provisioned for that. As > > such I am looking for another provider to take over my > > broadvoice service. > > > > If anyone knows one I would greatly appreciate hearing about it. > > > > > > -- > > Trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com Bret McDanel > > UK +44 870 340 4605 Germany +49 801 777 555 3402 > > US +1 360 207 0479 or +1 516 687 5200 > > FreeWorldDialup: 635378 > > > > ___ > Asterisk-Users mailing list > Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com Bret McDanel UK +44 870 340 4605 Germany +49 801 777 555 3402 US +1 360 207 0479 or +1 516 687 5200 FreeWorldDialup: 635378 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] voip provider request
> You misunderstand I am asking for termination *to* NCFA. Can you also terminate through Sipgate? They say: United Kingdom, 1.19 p/min I figure if they can provide origination for NCFA numbers, they can also terminate to them... your +44 870 number is a NCFA one, no? --Luki ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] voip provider request
Naw, I understood you full well. You'd think if they provide origination to NCFA numbers, they'd provide termination to them as well, wouldn't you? As far as their website is concerned, there are only two UK rates, and no disclaimers that NCFA would be excluded. > -Original Message- > From: trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 1:33 AM > To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion > Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] voip provider request > > > On Fri, 2005-06-03 at 01:17 -0500, Jay Milk wrote: > > Doesn't www.sipgate.co.uk do that? After all, they provide > free NCFA > > numbers to the asking. > > > > You misunderstand I am asking for termination *to* NCFA. I > want to be able to call them, as my signature indicates I > already have a NCFA for inbound (which is sipgate). > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 9:26 PM > > > To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com > > > Subject: [Asterisk-Users] voip provider request > > > > > > > > > I am looking for a voip provider that provides good rates > > > (below 5 cents/min or unlimited) to UK NCFA numbers. > > > Braodvoice advertises they do unlimited to NCFA but does not > > > have the ability to actually termiate those calls as per the > > > CTO Nathan Stratton, and last he said they dont even have > > > contracts in place to get service provisioned for that. As > > > such I am looking for another provider to take over my > > > broadvoice service. > > > > > > If anyone knows one I would greatly appreciate hearing about it. > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com Bret McDanel > > > UK +44 870 340 4605 Germany +49 801 777 555 3402 > > > US +1 360 207 0479 or +1 516 687 5200 > > > FreeWorldDialup: 635378 > > > > > > > ___ > > Asterisk-Users mailing list > > Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com > > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > >http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > -- > Trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com Bret McDanel > UK +44 870 340 4605 Germany +49 801 777 555 3402 > US +1 360 207 0479 or +1 516 687 5200 > FreeWorldDialup: 635378 > ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] voip provider request
On Fri, 2005-06-03 at 00:10 -0700, Luki wrote: > > You misunderstand I am asking for termination *to* NCFA. > Can you also terminate through Sipgate? They say: United Kingdom, 1.19 p/min > > I figure if they can provide origination for NCFA numbers, they can > also terminate to them... your +44 870 number is a NCFA one, no? > Ahh yes they do however they are 7.51ppm 24/7 for NCFA and 3 ppm for NCFA. 7.51 ppm is over $0.13/min using current exchange rates and I was looking for sub $0.05/min or even unlimited like broadvoice advertises but does not actually provide. Thanks though Anyone else know of any providers that allows you to call a UK NCFA (+44 870) for $0.05 USD or less per minute and is BYOD? -- Trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com Bret McDanel UK +44 870 340 4605 Germany +49 801 777 555 3402 US +1 360 207 0479 or +1 516 687 5200 FreeWorldDialup: 635378 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] voip provider request
On Fri, 2005-06-03 at 03:33 -0500, Jay Milk wrote: > Naw, I understood you full well. You'd think if they provide > origination to NCFA numbers, they'd provide termination to them as well, > wouldn't you? As far as their website is concerned, there are only two > UK rates, and no disclaimers that NCFA would be excluded. > They hide it: http://www.sipgate.co.uk/faq/index.php?aktion=anzeigen&type=&rubrik=110#num6 -- Trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com Bret McDanel UK +44 870 340 4605 Germany +49 801 777 555 3402 US +1 360 207 0479 or +1 516 687 5200 FreeWorldDialup: 635378 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] voip provider request
Ahhh... Sneaky. Because of the special billing agreements on NCFA numbers, there's bound to be a lower limit to how these calls are priced. I doubt BT gives sipgate (or any other VOIP provider) a signigicant discount on these calls. If you can reasonably expect that there are a lot of other sipgate/uk users being called, I'd go with them, as those calls are free after all. > -Original Message- > From: trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 4:54 AM > To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion > Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] voip provider request > > > On Fri, 2005-06-03 at 03:33 -0500, Jay Milk wrote: > > Naw, I understood you full well. You'd think if they provide > > origination to NCFA numbers, they'd provide termination to them as > > well, wouldn't you? As far as their website is concerned, > there are > > only two UK rates, and no disclaimers that NCFA would be excluded. > > > > They hide it: > http://www.sipgate.co.uk/faq/index.php?aktion=anzeigen&type=&r ubrik=110#num6 -- Trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com Bret McDanel UK +44 870 340 4605 Germany +49 801 777 555 3402 US +1 360 207 0479 or +1 516 687 5200 FreeWorldDialup: 635378 ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] voip provider request
On Fri, 2005-06-03 at 10:14 -0500, Jay Milk wrote: > Ahhh... Sneaky. Because of the special billing agreements on NCFA > numbers, there's bound to be a lower limit to how these calls are > priced. I doubt BT gives sipgate (or any other VOIP provider) a > signigicant discount on these calls. If you can reasonably expect that > there are a lot of other sipgate/uk users being called, I'd go with > them, as those calls are free after all. There isnt, so I cant. I found one company that accidentally told me that they pay $0.001/min to NCFA and they also offer unlimited but they are $250/mo (although that does allow resale of the service), but they dont wanna talk to me about slaes I bet its even worse once htey have my money, and $250 is a bit steep since I dont plan on resale. broadvoice gave unlimited as well, and at that point they were reselling GBLX ($35k/mo minimum spending limit on resale packages of that caliber). There is a carrier in the UK (not voip afaik) that gives unlimited to NCFA with a 1 pence connect fee. So there are carriers out there I just havent been able to find any why I asked here. Of course I need to be able to use asterisk with it, I do not want their hardware, although I do have a card I could use to connect to that at the cost of dropping my analogue service to my asterisk box. maxvoip.com.br does as well, but they arent local, language issues and afaik they dont sell to the US. -- Trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com Bret McDanel UK +44 870 340 4605 Germany +49 801 777 555 3402 US +1 360 207 0479 or +1 516 687 5200 FreeWorldDialup: 635378 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] voip provider request
On Fri, Jun 03, 2005 at 10:14:58AM -0500, Jay Milk wrote: > Ahhh... Sneaky. Because of the special billing agreements on NCFA > numbers, there's bound to be a lower limit to how these calls are > priced. I doubt BT gives sipgate (or any other VOIP provider) a > signigicant discount on these calls. If you can reasonably expect that > there are a lot of other sipgate/uk users being called, I'd go with > them, as those calls are free after all. The rates BT can charge are set by Ofcom (the UK telecoms/media regulator). There are 5600 Digital Local Exchanges (DLEs) in the UK, and to get single or dual tandem access you need to connect to around 770 of them. BT are regulated (as they have SMP [significan market power]) on how much they can charge for the single or dual tandem hop. Non-geographic numbers are usually mapped to geographic numbers (or virtually via an IN platform). 0845 numbers generally do not generate revenue (on ingress), 0870 numbers do (0870 are max 10p per minute, but not classified as premium rate). There are a few altnets who have connected to around the 770 DLEs and these include THUS, C&W, probably Energis and maybe Carphone Warehouse (TalkTalk brand). Most others are either using these, or directly connecting to BT and paying too much money ;) Steve -- NetTek Ltd Fax +44-(0)20 7483 2455 Skype / In stevekennedyuk / UK +442088167166 / US +13106518226 Vonage UK +442079932612 / US +13108577715 / UK mob 07775 755503 Personal Blog http://stevekennedy.blogspot.com Euro Tech News Blog http://eurotechnews.blogspot.com ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] voip provider request
On Fri, 3 Jun 2005, trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com wrote: Anyone else know of any providers that allows you to call a UK NCFA (+44 870) for $0.05 USD or less per minute and is BYOD? The closest I've seen is http://www.iax.cc/ (sixTel) who charges just over 5c/min. Direct from their web site: United Kingdom -Premium 448 5.301ยข /min (FWIW, I haven't had any problems with them for outbound, but they have been *VERY* slow to provision DIDs lately.) -SC -- Stanley Cline // Telco Boi // sc1 at roamer1 dot org // www.roamer1.org "it seems like all you ever buy is Abercrombie and cell phones" --a friend ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
