Re: [asterisk-users] conferenced transfers

2012-02-22 Thread Phil Frost
On Feb 21, 2012, at 17:01 , Phil Frost wrote:
 On Feb 14, 2012, at 17:13 , isr...@gmail.com wrote:
 On the snom too 
 Create a conferance and then press the transfer button. That will join the 
 parties and release the receptionist
 
 
 Hmm...You can do that with just hitting the transfer button, or is there 
 more? I'm using a Snom 870 with firmware 8.4.35. I set up the conference, but 
 when I hit transfer, it presents me with a transfer party dialog. It's a 
 bit confusing, because it's not really clear which party is being 
 transferred. Are you using a different phone or firmware? Maybe there's a 
 setting somewhere?


Well, I happened to figure it out. On the Snom 870, when you have the 
conference going, both parties are in the context area. Drag one and drop it on 
the other and bam, they are connected, and now you can hang up while they 
continue to talk.

Pretty obvious once you figure it out, but rather unconventional, and not 
documented anywhere best I can tell.

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Re: [asterisk-users] conferenced transfers

2012-02-21 Thread Phil Frost
On Feb 14, 2012, at 17:13 , isr...@gmail.com wrote:
 On the snom too 
 Create a conferance and then press the transfer button. That will join the 
 parties and release the receptionist


Hmm...You can do that with just hitting the transfer button, or is there more? 
I'm using a Snom 870 with firmware 8.4.35. I set up the conference, but when I 
hit transfer, it presents me with a transfer party dialog. It's a bit 
confusing, because it's not really clear which party is being transferred. Are 
you using a different phone or firmware? Maybe there's a setting somewhere?



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Re: [asterisk-users] conferenced transfers

2012-02-14 Thread Danny Nicholas
As I read this, this is a regular attended transfer.

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Subject: [asterisk-users] conferenced transfers

I'm wondering how one might implement a transfer where a receptionist
introduces a caller to the recipient in a 3-way conference before hanging
up, leaving the other two parties connected. Something like this, from the
perspective of the customer:

Customer: Hi. I'd like to buy a widget.
Receptionist: Great. Let me connect you with someone in sales.
(Customer on hold)
Receptionist: Hello customer. I have John here with me.
John: Hello.
Receptionist: John can sell you a widget. Have a great day.
(Receptionist hangs up)
(John and Customer continue the discussion)

The problem is that in most systems I've seen, the 3-way is accomplished by
the handset that initiates the conference mixing the two legs of the call.
When that party (in this case, the receptionist) hangs up, the conference is
over, and the other two parties are either disconnected or put on hold.

I know there are ways to do server-side conferences - the challenge is
making this no harder than a regular transfer, so the receptionist can do it
comfortably. The usual model of dialing a number, entering a conference
number, passcode, etc, is far too heavy for something as common as a
transfer.

In particular, I'm playing with a new Snom 870, and its drag-and-drop
conference functionality is really great. However, I'm looking for any
suggestions on how people skin this problem from a user interface
perspective, and keep it friendly instead of frustrating for receptionists.

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Re: [asterisk-users] conferenced transfers

2012-02-14 Thread Phil Frost
On Feb 14, 2012, at 15:34 , Danny Nicholas wrote:
 As I read this, this is a regular attended transfer.


No, as I understand an attended transfer, there is no 3-way period where the 
receptionist introduces the caller to someone else. In an attended transfer, 
from the caller's perspective, he's talking to the receptionist, then he's on 
hold, then he's talking to someone else. No different from a blind transfer, 
from the caller perspective.

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Re: [asterisk-users] conferenced transfers

2012-02-14 Thread Andres




No, as I understand an attended transfer, there is no 3-way period where the 
receptionist introduces the caller to someone else. In an attended transfer, 
from the caller's perspective, he's talking to the receptionist, then he's on 
hold, then he's talking to someone else. No different from a blind transfer, 
from the caller perspective.

   

using the Cisco-Linksys SPA Phones you would:
1)  Receptionist Answers Call and hits 'Conf' button.
2)  Receptionist makes call and when answered hits 'Conf' again.
3)  Now everybody is talking
4)  Receptions hits 'Join' button.  This releases the Receptionist from 
the call and the other 2 parties are joined directly.



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Re: [asterisk-users] conferenced transfers

2012-02-14 Thread Danny Nicholas
I think you can do the same thing with most Polycom phones.

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Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] conferenced transfers



 No, as I understand an attended transfer, there is no 3-way period where
the receptionist introduces the caller to someone else. In an attended
transfer, from the caller's perspective, he's talking to the receptionist,
then he's on hold, then he's talking to someone else. No different from a
blind transfer, from the caller perspective.


using the Cisco-Linksys SPA Phones you would:
1)  Receptionist Answers Call and hits 'Conf' button.
2)  Receptionist makes call and when answered hits 'Conf' again.
3)  Now everybody is talking
4)  Receptions hits 'Join' button.  This releases the Receptionist from the
call and the other 2 parties are joined directly.


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Re: [asterisk-users] conferenced transfers

2012-02-14 Thread isrlgb
On the snom too 
Create a conferance and then press the transfer button. That will join the 
parties and release the receptionist 
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 No, as I understand an attended transfer, there is no 3-way period where the 
 receptionist introduces the caller to someone else. In an attended transfer, 
 from the caller's perspective, he's talking to the receptionist, then he's on 
 hold, then he's talking to someone else. No different from a blind transfer, 
 from the caller perspective.


using the Cisco-Linksys SPA Phones you would:
1)  Receptionist Answers Call and hits 'Conf' button.
2)  Receptionist makes call and when answered hits 'Conf' again.
3)  Now everybody is talking
4)  Receptions hits 'Join' button.  This releases the Receptionist from 
the call and the other 2 parties are joined directly.


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Re: [asterisk-users] conferenced transfers

2012-02-14 Thread Carlos Alvarez
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Andres and...@telesip.net wrote:
 using the Cisco-Linksys SPA Phones you would:
 1)  Receptionist Answers Call and hits 'Conf' button.
 2)  Receptionist makes call and when answered hits 'Conf' again.
 3)  Now everybody is talking
 4)  Receptions hits 'Join' button.  This releases the Receptionist from the
 call and the other 2 parties are joined directly.

I was just about to post exactly that.  This is how we've taught our
customers to do it, the feedback is positive.

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