Re: [asterisk-users] 400 calls at g711 how much cpu power
Lol , simply lol, don't forget the super duper, top secret patch ,everyone is hiding from you that makes asterisk able to do 4000 calls on a p3, PS. don't tell anyone i said this . But yeah , since you need to blast 500 calls+, you should be aware that normal blasting even 4 seconds audio will run you quite a bit of money, 20 seconds * 400 channels = 8000 seconds every 20 seconds, +- prep times... Or 133 minutes every 20 secs... 399 minutes every minute.. @ 0.015 let's say 400 * 0.015 is 6$ a minute, $360 an hour, 3600$ a day, and ill let you do the weekly fees Now, that's starting to be expensive for a pet project ;) if not and gov related, then ill just pass the remarks.. I always knew there's money in fear, but broadcasting it could be worth it too ;) Can't wait for the day when we get voice calls about buying water in bulk and storing crackers. Anyhow let me know how you manage to do 400 calls on asterisk with or without transcoding From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Erick Perez Sent: June-20-09 9:34 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] 400 calls at g711 how much cpu power I am fairly certain he was simply reporting the results (for posterity) of the event having already happened. Good to know (I guess?) that such small hardware can acheive the performance that was squeezed out of it. Impressive. All THAT said, I am unconvinced that there was no sales effort involved in sending out millions of unsolicited calls. Claim if you like that this was some public information event (which you fail to expand much upon) and convict me of mistrust, but who would have paid for such a thing. TV ads, radio spots, billboards, etc., are much more effective for public information. Unsolicited calls on that order mean only one thing to me - SPAM. So what wonderful product were you informing the public about with regard to the looming threat of illness? Jeff, indeed i was posting for posterity. Maybe someone will benefit in an outbound-only scenario that he/she will not need a supercomputer to pump a 20sec audio clip. Again, this was a public service. And indeed TV and radio was used. Unless you live in a bubble, you may have heard about AH1N1 virus. Which unfortunately hit us (Panama, Republic of Panama, Central America) very hard. I foud very repetitive to tell in my posts that i am from panama, central america, blah,blah blah. Anyways, a quick google search of this forum will also revealed that i am kind of a regular poster and even my cellphone is listed here (Jon Pounder, my cellphone is +507 6675 5083 in case YOU want to sell me a car loan, i dont mind getting a call. Im a IT consultant and i have a chargeback line. Please call me as many times as you want...please do so between 10pm and 6am where my chargeback is the most expensive). Guys, Grow up! Next time someone needs to learn mouth-to-mouth and CPR lessons, please DONT teach him. Because, following your inmature way of thinking, the person who wants to learn CPR may as well be looking for information to learn how to suffocate people. Next time your son wants to know how gasoline works or how is being produced. Please keep your familiy in ignorance. You may be training the next crazy person who will burn things all around the world. But, you wont do that, do you? Again, I always tell my familiy that keeping others in ignorance is bad. but sometimes it must be done for the sake of a greater good, and my comment is always followed with good and sound examples (atomic technology, viruses, etc). But I forgot that Asterisk, the phone lines and a calling system is the way the world is going to be dominated by the martians. So the secret about phone system calculations must be keept in Area 51. Now I understand Kevin Mitnick. Cheers to all. Bye. Erick Perez Cel +(507) 6675-5083 ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] 400 calls at g711 how much cpu power
Is this Project Eagle Eye ? Call every phone at once to tell them about H1N1 in their neighborhood From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of ContactTel Business Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 3:46 PM To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] 400 calls at g711 how much cpu power Lol , simply lol, don't forget the super duper, top secret patch ,everyone is hiding from you that makes asterisk able to do 4000 calls on a p3, PS. don't tell anyone i said this . But yeah , since you need to blast 500 calls+, you should be aware that normal blasting even 4 seconds audio will run you quite a bit of money, 20 seconds * 400 channels = 8000 seconds every 20 seconds, +- prep times... Or 133 minutes every 20 secs... 399 minutes every minute.. @ 0.015 let's say 400 * 0.015 is 6$ a minute, $360 an hour, 3600$ a day, and ill let you do the weekly fees Now, that's starting to be expensive for a pet project ;) if not and gov related, then ill just pass the remarks.. I always knew there's money in fear, but broadcasting it could be worth it too ;) Can't wait for the day when we get voice calls about buying water in bulk and storing crackers. Anyhow let me know how you manage to do 400 calls on asterisk with or without transcoding From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Erick Perez Sent: June-20-09 9:34 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] 400 calls at g711 how much cpu power I am fairly certain he was simply reporting the results (for posterity) of the event having already happened. Good to know (I guess?) that such small hardware can acheive the performance that was squeezed out of it. Impressive. All THAT said, I am unconvinced that there was no sales effort involved in sending out millions of unsolicited calls. Claim if you like that this was some public information event (which you fail to expand much upon) and convict me of mistrust, but who would have paid for such a thing. TV ads, radio spots, billboards, etc., are much more effective for public information. Unsolicited calls on that order mean only one thing to me - SPAM. So what wonderful product were you informing the public about with regard to the looming threat of illness? Jeff, indeed i was posting for posterity. Maybe someone will benefit in an outbound-only scenario that he/she will not need a supercomputer to pump a 20sec audio clip. Again, this was a public service. And indeed TV and radio was used. Unless you live in a bubble, you may have heard about AH1N1 virus. Which unfortunately hit us (Panama, Republic of Panama, Central America) very hard. I foud very repetitive to tell in my posts that i am from panama, central america, blah,blah blah. Anyways, a quick google search of this forum will also revealed that i am kind of a regular poster and even my cellphone is listed here (Jon Pounder, my cellphone is +507 6675 5083 in case YOU want to sell me a car loan, i dont mind getting a call. Im a IT consultant and i have a chargeback line. Please call me as many times as you want...please do so between 10pm and 6am where my chargeback is the most expensive). Guys, Grow up! Next time someone needs to learn mouth-to-mouth and CPR lessons, please DONT teach him. Because, following your inmature way of thinking, the person who wants to learn CPR may as well be looking for information to learn how to suffocate people. Next time your son wants to know how gasoline works or how is being produced. Please keep your familiy in ignorance. You may be training the next crazy person who will burn things all around the world. But, you wont do that, do you? Again, I always tell my familiy that keeping others in ignorance is bad. but sometimes it must be done for the sake of a greater good, and my comment is always followed with good and sound examples (atomic technology, viruses, etc). But I forgot that Asterisk, the phone lines and a calling system is the way the world is going to be dominated by the martians. So the secret about phone system calculations must be keept in Area 51. Now I understand Kevin Mitnick. Cheers to all. Bye. Erick Perez Cel +(507) 6675-5083 - Disclaimer: This e-mail communication and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information and is for use by the designated addressee(s) named above only. If you are not the intended addressee, you are hereby notified that you have received
Re: [asterisk-users] 400 calls at g711 how much cpu power
Let me also know, I just have a business with Tamiflu :) I need to contact 6.000.000.000 people to help them. No spam, I promise. Olivier ContactTel Business a crit: Lol , simply lol, dont forget the super duper, top secret patch ,everyone is hiding from you that makes asterisk able to do 4000 calls on a p3, PS. dont tell anyone i said this . But yeah , since you need to blast 500 calls+, you should be aware that normal blasting even 4 seconds audio will run you quite a bit of money, 20 seconds * 400 channels = 8000 seconds every 20 seconds, +- prep times... Or 133 minutes every 20 secs... 399 minutes every minute.. @ 0.015 lets say 400 * 0.015 is 6$ a minute, $360 an hour, 3600$ a day, and ill let you do the weekly fees Now, thats starting to be expensive for a pet project ;) if not and gov related, then ill just pass the remarks.. I always knew theres money in fear, but broadcasting it could be worth it too ;) Cant wait for the day when we get voice calls about buying water in bulk and storing crackers. Anyhow let me know how you manage to do 400 calls on asterisk with or without transcoding From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Erick Perez Sent: June-20-09 9:34 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] 400 calls at g711 how much cpu power I am fairly certain he was simply reporting the results (for posterity) of the event having already happened. Good to know (I guess?) that such small hardware can acheive the performance that was squeezed out of it. Impressive. All THAT said, I am unconvinced that there was no sales effort involved in sending out millions of unsolicited calls. Claim if you like that this was some public information event (which you fail to expand much upon) and convict me of mistrust, but who would have paid for such a thing. TV ads, radio spots, billboards, etc., are much more effective for public information. Unsolicited calls on that order mean only one thing to me - SPAM. So what wonderful product were you "informing" the public about with regard to the looming threat of illness? Jeff, indeed i was posting for posterity. Maybe someone will benefit in an outbound-only scenario that he/she will not need a supercomputer to pump a 20sec audio clip. Again, this was a public service. And indeed TV and radio was used. Unless you live in a bubble, you may have heard about AH1N1 virus. Which unfortunately hit us (Panama, Republic of Panama, Central America) very hard. I foud very repetitive to tell in my posts that i am from panama, central america, blah,blah blah. Anyways, a quick google search of this forum will also revealed that i am kind of a regular poster and even my cellphone is listed here (Jon Pounder, my cellphone is +507 6675 5083in caseYOU want to sell me a car loan, i dont mind getting a call. Im a IT consultant and i have a chargeback line. Please call me as many times as you want...please do so between 10pm and 6am where my chargeback is the most expensive). Guys, Grow up! Next time someone needs to learn mouth-to-mouth and CPR lessons, please DONT teach him. Because, following your inmature way of thinking, the person who wants to learn CPR may as well be looking for information to learn how to suffocate people. Next time your son wants to know how gasoline works or how is being produced. Please keep your familiy in ignorance. You may be training the next crazy person who will burn things all around the world. But, you wont do that, do you? Again, I always tell my familiy that keeping others in ignorance is bad. but sometimes it must be done for the sake of a greater good, and my comment is always followed with good and sound examples (atomic technology, viruses, etc). But I forgot that Asterisk, the phone lines and a calling system is the way the world is going to be dominated by the martians. So the secret about phone system calculations must be keept in Area 51. Now I understand Kevin Mitnick. Cheers to all. Bye. Erick Perez Cel +(507) 6675-5083 ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE
Re: [asterisk-users] 400 calls at g711 how much cpu power
So what happened to the OP? Seems he would be eager to help us fight the swine flu... -- Christopher Stamper Email: christopherstam...@gmail.com Web: http://tinyurl.com/2ooncg gTalk: http://tinyurl.com/6e359r Skype: cdstamper ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] 400 calls at g711 how much cpu power
On Sat, 20 Jun 2009, Erick Perez wrote: Jeff, indeed i was posting for posterity. Maybe someone will benefit in an outbound-only scenario that he/she will not need a supercomputer to pump a 20sec audio clip. Again, this was a public service. And indeed TV and radio was used. Unless you live in a bubble, you may have heard about AH1N1 virus. Which unfortunately hit us (Panama, Republic of Panama, Central America) very hard. I foud very repetitive to tell in my posts that i am from panama, central america, blah,blah blah. Repetitive? I don't recall you even mentioning it, though most of the focus was on the fact that you planned to make several million phone calls, and neglected until now to explain what the phone calls were for. I don't think anyone would have questioned your motives if you had come out with that information in the first place. I'll save my comments on the mass hysteria surrounding the swine flu for another forum ;) Lets hear the 20 second clip, by the way. Can you post it? Perhaps we can all learn how to avoid the swine flu. Guys, Grow up! Next time someone needs to learn mouth-to-mouth and CPR lessons, please DONT teach him. Because, following your inmature way of thinking, the person who wants to learn CPR may as well be looking for information to learn how to suffocate people. Next time your son wants to know how gasoline works or how is being produced. Please keep your familiy in ignorance. You may be training the next crazy person who will burn things all around the world. Umm, you are taking this a bit far. I don't think anyone is supporting a stance of squelching information. You simply posted like a spammer, and given the other recent threads about car insurance scams, fraud calls, SIP security issues, etc., and the fact that you left out all information about what your 20 second clip was about sure made it *seem* like you were doing exactly the kinds of things with asterisk that honest folks wish would not be done. You have set us straight, so carry on. j ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] 400 calls at g711 how much cpu power
I am fairly certain he was simply reporting the results (for posterity) of the event having already happened. Good to know (I guess?) that such small hardware can acheive the performance that was squeezed out of it. Impressive. All THAT said, I am unconvinced that there was no sales effort involved in sending out millions of unsolicited calls. Claim if you like that this was some public information event (which you fail to expand much upon) and convict me of mistrust, but who would have paid for such a thing. TV ads, radio spots, billboards, etc., are much more effective for public information. Unsolicited calls on that order mean only one thing to me - SPAM. So what wonderful product were you informing the public about with regard to the looming threat of illness? Jeff, indeed i was posting for posterity. Maybe someone will benefit in an outbound-only scenario that he/she will not need a supercomputer to pump a 20sec audio clip. Again, this was a public service. And indeed TV and radio was used. Unless you live in a bubble, you may have heard about AH1N1 virus. Which unfortunately hit us (Panama, Republic of Panama, Central America) very hard. I foud very repetitive to tell in my posts that i am from panama, central america, blah,blah blah. Anyways, a quick google search of this forum will also revealed that i am kind of a regular poster and even my cellphone is listed here (Jon Pounder, my cellphone is +507 6675 5083 in case YOU want to sell me a car loan, i dont mind getting a call. Im a IT consultant and i have a chargeback line. Please call me as many times as you want...please do so between 10pm and 6am where my chargeback is the most expensive). Guys, Grow up! Next time someone needs to learn mouth-to-mouth and CPR lessons, please DONT teach him. Because, following your inmature way of thinking, the person who wants to learn CPR may as well be looking for information to learn how to suffocate people. Next time your son wants to know how gasoline works or how is being produced. Please keep your familiy in ignorance. You may be training the next crazy person who will burn things all around the world. But, you wont do that, do you? Again, I always tell my familiy that keeping others in ignorance is bad. but sometimes it must be done for the sake of a greater good, and my comment is always followed with good and sound examples (atomic technology, viruses, etc). But I forgot that Asterisk, the phone lines and a calling system is the way the world is going to be dominated by the martians. So the secret about phone system calculations must be keept in Area 51. Now I understand Kevin Mitnick. Cheers to all. Bye. Erick Perez Cel +(507) 6675-5083 ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] 400 calls at g711 how much cpu power
On Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 04:40:53PM -0500, Erick Perez wrote: I totally agree with you Jeff, however some of us do not actually sell viagra over the phone. This is a campaign to spread a message to the population about the health prevention steps that should be taken in order to prevent diseases that are affecting our population. I do understand all of you to be reluctant to help with this post. However judging before listening has been the most devastating problem humans have. We simply do not trust each other. However, just for the sake of posterity: Hardware/Software just one server Dell 2950 / 4GB RAM / four 72Gb ultra320 SCSI hard disks built as RAID-0 Does the disk actually need to work hard? Why? For Asterisk? If you look at syslog.conf(5) you'll see: You may prefix each entry with the minus ‘‘-’’ sign to omit syncing the file after every logging. Note that you might lose information if the system crashes right behind a write attempt. Nevertheless this might give you back some performance, especially if you run programs that use logging in a very verbose manner. On ext3 syncing the file can have practically the same impact as syncing the filesystem. Debian as the OS (in 32 bit mode) Asterisk 32 bit 1.4 compiled manually (codecs removed, modules removed,etc, a ton of pure CRAP out!) Sanity check: what does it give you over simply unloading all the CRAP modules? Or not lopading everything by default and explicitly loading what you need? Only g711/SIP was used 20 second clip was served from ramdisk Dialer: SmoothTorque (those guys simply ROCK!)( setup outbound mode ONLY!) Network: 50 Mbit fiber link to telco provider. Pure IP, no QoS. We were pumping 3k calls-setup/second to the session controller at telco's side. Until we reached controller's max of 10k calls. Server load was NEVER above 3.2 For stress-testing, use several strong Asterisk clients and have the server bombard them. your Asterisk server. I think it should be simple enough to write a dislplan that will emulate a random callee. -- Tzafrir Cohen icq#16849755 jabber:tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com +972-50-7952406 mailto:tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com http://www.xorcom.com iax:gu...@local.xorcom.com/tzafrir ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] 400 calls at g711 how much cpu power
On Wed, 3 Jun 2009, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 04:40:53PM -0500, Erick Perez wrote: I totally agree with you Jeff, however some of us do not actually sell viagra over the phone. This is a campaign to spread a message to the population about the health prevention steps that should be taken in order to prevent diseases that are affecting our population. I do understand all of you to be reluctant to help with this post. However judging before listening has been the most devastating problem humans have. We simply do not trust each other. However, just for the sake of posterity: Hardware/Software just one server Dell 2950 / 4GB RAM / four 72Gb ultra320 SCSI hard disks built as RAID-0 Does the disk actually need to work hard? Why? For Asterisk? If you look at syslog.conf(5) you'll see: You may prefix each entry with the minus ??-?? sign to omit syncing the file after every logging. Note that you might lose information if the system crashes right behind a write attempt. Nevertheless this might give you back some performance, especially if you run programs that use logging in a very verbose manner. On ext3 syncing the file can have practically the same impact as syncing the filesystem. Debian as the OS (in 32 bit mode) Asterisk 32 bit 1.4 compiled manually (codecs removed, modules removed,etc, a ton of pure CRAP out!) Sanity check: what does it give you over simply unloading all the CRAP modules? Or not lopading everything by default and explicitly loading what you need? Only g711/SIP was used 20 second clip was served from ramdisk Dialer: SmoothTorque (those guys simply ROCK!)( setup outbound mode ONLY!) Network: 50 Mbit fiber link to telco provider. Pure IP, no QoS. We were pumping 3k calls-setup/second to the session controller at telco's side. Until we reached controller's max of 10k calls. Server load was NEVER above 3.2 For stress-testing, use several strong Asterisk clients and have the server bombard them. your Asterisk server. I think it should be simple enough to write a dislplan that will emulate a random callee. I am fairly certain he was simply reporting the results (for posterity) of the event having already happened. Good to know (I guess?) that such small hardware can acheive the performance that was squeezed out of it. Impressive. All THAT said, I am unconvinced that there was no sales effort involved in sending out millions of unsolicited calls. Claim if you like that this was some public information event (which you fail to expand much upon) and convict me of mistrust, but who would have paid for such a thing. TV ads, radio spots, billboards, etc., are much more effective for public information. Unsolicited calls on that order mean only one thing to me - SPAM. So what wonderful product were you informing the public about with regard to the looming threat of illness? j ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] 400 calls at g711 how much cpu power
I totally agree with you Jeff, however some of us do not actually sell viagra over the phone. This is a campaign to spread a message to the population about the health prevention steps that should be taken in order to prevent diseases that are affecting our population. I do understand all of you to be reluctant to help with this post. However judging before listening has been the most devastating problem humans have. We simply do not trust each other. However, just for the sake of posterity: Hardware/Software just one server Dell 2950 / 4GB RAM / four 72Gb ultra320 SCSI hard disks built as RAID-0 Debian as the OS (in 32 bit mode) Asterisk 32 bit 1.4 compiled manually (codecs removed, modules removed,etc, a ton of pure CRAP out!) Only g711/SIP was used 20 second clip was served from ramdisk Dialer: SmoothTorque (those guys simply ROCK!)( setup outbound mode ONLY!) Network: 50 Mbit fiber link to telco provider. Pure IP, no QoS. We were pumping 3k calls-setup/second to the session controller at telco's side. Until we reached controller's max of 10k calls. Server load was NEVER above 3.2 thanks to all for your help. On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 7:36 PM, Jon Pounder j...@inline.net wrote: Erick, how about posting your home phone number here so we can all call you and play a 20second audio clip - I am sure you would see nothing wrong with that would you ? ContactTel Business wrote: Your right, i don't think we would help someone asking on advice to send 1 million emails for Viagra would we ? So why the hell aren't we thinking straight and tell the poor guy? Ive seen dialer app that where legit, even worked on some for the military. But this is just spam /pham (phone spam) send 10USD to my email ;) -Original Message- From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Jeff LaCoursiere Sent: April-02-09 10:34 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] 400 calls at g711 how much cpu power My only comment is that I am having moral issues with assisting anyone that is planning to call one million phone numbers to play a message and hang up. Doesn't sound like an opt-in kind of campaign to me. When such a thing happens to me on my home phone I get extremely angry. j On Wed, 1 Apr 2009, Erick Perez wrote: We are planning to run an outbound only campaign. A 20-second voice message will be played to callers and our dialer on machine1 will send to machine2-asterisk (1.4) instructions to dial 400 calls, play the message and hang up. This will be done for about 1 million phones. The asterisk box will communicate via SIP to a voice carrier. the voice carrier will then place the calls on pstn. The codec will be g711. So we will never do any transcoding. I have been calculating the CPU power required to do the calls and in previous posting the usual calculation is about 40MHZ per leg when no transcoding is involved. So if we use the 40MHZ rule, we are talking about 40*400=16000MHZ or 1.6Ghz. Comments? -- Erick ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Erick Perez Cel +(507) 6675-5083 ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] 400 calls at g711 how much cpu power
On Wed, 2009-04-01 at 22:46 -0500, Erick Perez wrote: So if we use the 40MHZ rule, we are talking about 40*400=16000MHZ or 1.6Ghz. It's been my experience that CPU load of Asterisk don't scale linearly with call volume. I don't pretend to understand all the reasons why, but it probably has a lot to do with call structures inside of Asterisk. For example, searching a linked list is simple when there are only a few items in the list, but the more items that get added to the list, the more CPU time it takes to finish the task, on average. I know the Asterisk developers spent a lot of time and effort improving the performance of the internal structures between the 1.4 branch and the 1.6.0 branch... if I were you, I'd at least give the 1.6.0 branch a shot. -- Jared Smith Training Manager Digium, Inc. ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] 400 calls at g711 how much cpu power
On Wed, 1 Apr 2009, Erick Perez wrote: We are planning to run an outbound only campaign. A 20-second voice message will be played to callers and our dialer on machine1 will send to machine2-asterisk (1.4) instructions to dial 400 calls, play the message and hang up. This will be done for about 1 million phones. The asterisk box will communicate via SIP to a voice carrier. the voice carrier will then place the calls on pstn. The codec will be g711. So we will never do any transcoding. I have been calculating the CPU power required to do the calls and in previous posting the usual calculation is about 40MHZ per leg when no transcoding is involved. So if we use the 40MHZ rule, we are talking about 40*400=16000MHZ or 1.6Ghz. Comments? I don't personally think CPU GHz is a good measure for something like this, there are many other factors at work when things get big... One thing I'd be concerend about is the number of packets per second and how the underlying hardware is going to cope with shoving them out - and remember VoIP is bi-directional, so even if you're just sending data out, there will still be data coming in at the same rate... So 50 packets (of 160 bytes + IP overhead) per second, each way times 400 is 40,000 packets per second that the system has to get to and from the Ethernet card. You might want to check the specification of your router too to make sure it can handle that load... Oh, and bandwidth - you're looking at 80Kb/sec for each call - that's going to need 32,000Kb/sec or 32Mb/sec - and remember that's each way.. As for the server - get *everything* in RAM. At least with no disk IO, it's one less thing going over the PCI bus when it's running - even then, you may want to look for a server motherboard with multiple PCI buses, although working that out beforehand is sometimes problematic unless you have the time to go through the motherboard manuals in detail, or know beforehand what motherboard does what... And you may find that a uni-processor server is better than multi-core too to minimise locks at the kernel level with multiple cores accessing the same Ethernet hardware... And you can always use 2, 3 or 4, etc. outbound call servers - with the one dialler round-robbining the calls to each server. That might be a better idea anyway than one big beast of a server. Good luck! (And let us know how you get on!) Gordon ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] 400 calls at g711 how much cpu power
On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 09:33:49AM +0100, Gordon Henderson wrote: As for the server - get *everything* in RAM. At least with no disk IO, This is true with respect to e.g. recordings. But most other operations won't bother the disk much. If you have 400 channels doing roughly the same things, the files that they use will mostly be cached. Disabling atime updates (e.g.: noatime, relatime) can help reducing the load of unnecessary writes to the disk. -- Tzafrir Cohen icq#16849755 jabber:tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com +972-50-7952406 mailto:tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com http://www.xorcom.com iax:gu...@local.xorcom.com/tzafrir ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] 400 calls at g711 how much cpu power
My only comment is that I am having moral issues with assisting anyone that is planning to call one million phone numbers to play a message and hang up. Doesn't sound like an opt-in kind of campaign to me. When such a thing happens to me on my home phone I get extremely angry. j On Wed, 1 Apr 2009, Erick Perez wrote: We are planning to run an outbound only campaign. A 20-second voice message will be played to callers and our dialer on machine1 will send to machine2-asterisk (1.4) instructions to dial 400 calls, play the message and hang up. This will be done for about 1 million phones. The asterisk box will communicate via SIP to a voice carrier. the voice carrier will then place the calls on pstn. The codec will be g711. So we will never do any transcoding. I have been calculating the CPU power required to do the calls and in previous posting the usual calculation is about 40MHZ per leg when no transcoding is involved. So if we use the 40MHZ rule, we are talking about 40*400=16000MHZ or 1.6Ghz. Comments? -- Erick ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] 400 calls at g711 how much cpu power
Yes, we have enough car warranty calls now, just recently joined by the reduce your credit card interest rate calls. :-( Cary -Original Message- From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Jeff LaCoursiere Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 9:34 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] 400 calls at g711 how much cpu power My only comment is that I am having moral issues with assisting anyone that is planning to call one million phone numbers to play a message and hang up. Doesn't sound like an opt-in kind of campaign to me. When such a thing happens to me on my home phone I get extremely angry. j On Wed, 1 Apr 2009, Erick Perez wrote: We are planning to run an outbound only campaign. A 20-second voice message will be played to callers and our dialer on machine1 will send to machine2-asterisk (1.4) instructions to dial 400 calls, play the message and hang up. This will be done for about 1 million phones. The asterisk box will communicate via SIP to a voice carrier. the voice carrier will then place the calls on pstn. The codec will be g711. So we will never do any transcoding. I have been calculating the CPU power required to do the calls and in previous posting the usual calculation is about 40MHZ per leg when no transcoding is involved. So if we use the 40MHZ rule, we are talking about 40*400=16000MHZ or 1.6Ghz. Comments? -- Erick ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] 400 calls at g711 how much cpu power
Cary Fitch escribió: Yes, we have enough car warranty calls now, just recently joined by the reduce your credit card interest rate calls. :-( Cary It's unbelievable how people use all this marketing strategies that annoy people far away the limit. Fortunately, nobody here in Colombia is doing such a thing (as least on cell phones, because on landlines I've heard cases of calls about winning a car to con people), I would be very angry to receive a call with this type of ugly advertising. I usually accept to receive only call per month, reminding my pendant cell phone bill, and I have enough with all the SMS garbage (sometimes I get three on a day) that I receive from my cell phone operator. If this type of calls problem keeps growing, we would need to maintain an asterisk at home just to block them. Miguel -Original Message- From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Jeff LaCoursiere Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 9:34 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] 400 calls at g711 how much cpu power My only comment is that I am having moral issues with assisting anyone that is planning to call one million phone numbers to play a message and hang up. Doesn't sound like an opt-in kind of campaign to me. When such a thing happens to me on my home phone I get extremely angry. j On Wed, 1 Apr 2009, Erick Perez wrote: We are planning to run an outbound only campaign. A 20-second voice message will be played to callers and our dialer on machine1 will send to machine2-asterisk (1.4) instructions to dial 400 calls, play the message and hang up. This will be done for about 1 million phones. The asterisk box will communicate via SIP to a voice carrier. the voice carrier will then place the calls on pstn. The codec will be g711. So we will never do any transcoding. I have been calculating the CPU power required to do the calls and in previous posting the usual calculation is about 40MHZ per leg when no transcoding is involved. So if we use the 40MHZ rule, we are talking about 40*400=16000MHZ or 1.6Ghz. Comments? -- Erick ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Ing. Miguel Molina Grupo de Tecnología Millenium Phone Center PBX: (+57 1)6500800 ext. 1201 Fax: (+57 1)6500816 Móvil: (+57)3138873587 ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] 400 calls at g711 how much cpu power
Your right, i don't think we would help someone asking on advice to send 1 million emails for Viagra would we ? So why the hell aren't we thinking straight and tell the poor guy? Ive seen dialer app that where legit, even worked on some for the military. But this is just spam /pham (phone spam) send 10USD to my email ;) -Original Message- From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Jeff LaCoursiere Sent: April-02-09 10:34 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] 400 calls at g711 how much cpu power My only comment is that I am having moral issues with assisting anyone that is planning to call one million phone numbers to play a message and hang up. Doesn't sound like an opt-in kind of campaign to me. When such a thing happens to me on my home phone I get extremely angry. j On Wed, 1 Apr 2009, Erick Perez wrote: We are planning to run an outbound only campaign. A 20-second voice message will be played to callers and our dialer on machine1 will send to machine2-asterisk (1.4) instructions to dial 400 calls, play the message and hang up. This will be done for about 1 million phones. The asterisk box will communicate via SIP to a voice carrier. the voice carrier will then place the calls on pstn. The codec will be g711. So we will never do any transcoding. I have been calculating the CPU power required to do the calls and in previous posting the usual calculation is about 40MHZ per leg when no transcoding is involved. So if we use the 40MHZ rule, we are talking about 40*400=16000MHZ or 1.6Ghz. Comments? -- Erick ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] 400 calls at g711 how much cpu power
Erick, how about posting your home phone number here so we can all call you and play a 20second audio clip - I am sure you would see nothing wrong with that would you ? ContactTel Business wrote: Your right, i don't think we would help someone asking on advice to send 1 million emails for Viagra would we ? So why the hell aren't we thinking straight and tell the poor guy? Ive seen dialer app that where legit, even worked on some for the military. But this is just spam /pham (phone spam) send 10USD to my email ;) -Original Message- From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Jeff LaCoursiere Sent: April-02-09 10:34 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] 400 calls at g711 how much cpu power My only comment is that I am having moral issues with assisting anyone that is planning to call one million phone numbers to play a message and hang up. Doesn't sound like an opt-in kind of campaign to me. When such a thing happens to me on my home phone I get extremely angry. j On Wed, 1 Apr 2009, Erick Perez wrote: We are planning to run an outbound only campaign. A 20-second voice message will be played to callers and our dialer on machine1 will send to machine2-asterisk (1.4) instructions to dial 400 calls, play the message and hang up. This will be done for about 1 million phones. The asterisk box will communicate via SIP to a voice carrier. the voice carrier will then place the calls on pstn. The codec will be g711. So we will never do any transcoding. I have been calculating the CPU power required to do the calls and in previous posting the usual calculation is about 40MHZ per leg when no transcoding is involved. So if we use the 40MHZ rule, we are talking about 40*400=16000MHZ or 1.6Ghz. Comments? -- Erick ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] 400 calls at g711 how much cpu power
Asterisk max call estimation doesn't scale linearly ... it might in the future with some fixes they're adding. For your application you could use some other open PBX that is known not to have 'Asterisk' limitations. Anyways most people will tell you to simply buy a box and make a test. Noone knows the exact numbers since it's dependant on your kernel version/asterisk version/CPU/motherboard/ethernet card/ memory speed/hdd speed etc. Just make sure the message is encoded in G711 ulaw/alaw so there's no transcoding... (use sox) Martin On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 10:46 PM, Erick Perez eaper...@gmail.com wrote: We are planning to run an outbound only campaign. A 20-second voice message will be played to callers and our dialer on machine1 will send to machine2-asterisk (1.4) instructions to dial 400 calls, play the message and hang up. This will be done for about 1 million phones. The asterisk box will communicate via SIP to a voice carrier. the voice carrier will then place the calls on pstn. The codec will be g711. So we will never do any transcoding. I have been calculating the CPU power required to do the calls and in previous posting the usual calculation is about 40MHZ per leg when no transcoding is involved. So if we use the 40MHZ rule, we are talking about 40*400=16000MHZ or 1.6Ghz. Comments? -- Erick ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
