Re: [asterisk-users] 911 Testing

2006-08-14 Thread Bruce Reeves
In my case the 911 goes to the Police departments dispatchers, I have to to call the main office number and make sure it is a good time to test then I can call right back to get the read out on the screen. This is great since they want me to send them some sort of information about who called from my system.
On 8/13/06, John Novack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Petty bureaucrats make up their own rules the world over!Whatever you do, it will be wrongJohn NovackKevin Kiely wrote:> Be careful here... Our local PSAP is handled by the fire department.  I had
> one of our guy's make a test call and we were told that this test must be> coordinated and scheduled in advance with the chief.  They want no test> calls.  It would probable be safest to check before making the call as they
> could consider it an abuse of the emergency system.  It seems like a catch> 22.>>> -Original Message-> From: Shane Young [mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]]> Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 12:23 PM> To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion; Leif Neland> Cc: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
> Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] 911 Testing>> Quoting Leif Neland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:>>>> According to what I've read somewhere, at least our 911 (112) has an
>> answering machine, saying "Alarm central, one moment" and a few seconds>> delay, before the call actually is signaled to the dispatcher, to filter>>> out>>> misdials and crank calls.
>>>> So if you hang up quickly, they'll never know or be bothered.>>>> In Minnesota (probably most places in the US) Once you have dialed 911, even> if it was in error, you
> should stay on the line until a dispatcher answers.  If you don't they'll> consider it a "911 hangup"> and attempt to call you back.  If they can not reach you, they will dispatch> a law enforcement
> officer (and in some areas, other emergency services).>> The usual call flow I've experianced is this:>> I Dial 911> They answer "Minneapolis 911"> I say "This is Shane from company x making a 911 test call."
> They will either say "ok" or "Please Hold" if they have other calls waiting.> Once they have said "ok", I'll say "I want to confirm you see my number as> xxx-xxx- and my
> address is y"> They will almost always say "Yes, that's what we have"> I'll say "Thank you"> They will say "Good Bye" and hang up.> I'll hang up.
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Re: [asterisk-users] 911 Testing

2006-08-13 Thread John Novack

Petty bureaucrats make up their own rules the world over!
Whatever you do, it will be wrong

John Novack

Kevin Kiely wrote:

Be careful here... Our local PSAP is handled by the fire department.  I had
one of our guy's make a test call and we were told that this test must be
coordinated and scheduled in advance with the chief.  They want no test
calls.  It would probable be safest to check before making the call as they
could consider it an abuse of the emergency system.  It seems like a catch
22.


-Original Message-
From: Shane Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 12:23 PM

To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion; Leif Neland
Cc: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] 911 Testing

Quoting Leif Neland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

  

According to what I've read somewhere, at least our 911 (112) has an
answering machine, saying "Alarm central, one moment" and a few seconds
delay, before the call actually is signaled to the dispatcher, to filter


out
  

misdials and crank calls.

So if you hang up quickly, they'll never know or be bothered.



In Minnesota (probably most places in the US) Once you have dialed 911, even
if it was in error, you
should stay on the line until a dispatcher answers.  If you don't they'll
consider it a "911 hangup"
and attempt to call you back.  If they can not reach you, they will dispatch
a law enforcement
officer (and in some areas, other emergency services).

The usual call flow I've experianced is this:

I Dial 911
They answer "Minneapolis 911"
I say "This is Shane from company x making a 911 test call."
They will either say "ok" or "Please Hold" if they have other calls waiting.
Once they have said "ok", I'll say "I want to confirm you see my number as
xxx-xxx- and my
address is y"
They will almost always say "Yes, that's what we have"
I'll say "Thank you"
They will say "Good Bye" and hang up.
I'll hang up.

--Shane






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RE: [asterisk-users] 911 Testing

2006-08-13 Thread Kevin Kiely

Be careful here... Our local PSAP is handled by the fire department.  I had
one of our guy's make a test call and we were told that this test must be
coordinated and scheduled in advance with the chief.  They want no test
calls.  It would probable be safest to check before making the call as they
could consider it an abuse of the emergency system.  It seems like a catch
22.


-Original Message-
From: Shane Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 12:23 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion; Leif Neland
Cc: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] 911 Testing

Quoting Leif Neland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

>
> According to what I've read somewhere, at least our 911 (112) has an
> answering machine, saying "Alarm central, one moment" and a few seconds
> delay, before the call actually is signaled to the dispatcher, to filter
out
> misdials and crank calls.
>
> So if you hang up quickly, they'll never know or be bothered.

In Minnesota (probably most places in the US) Once you have dialed 911, even
if it was in error, you
should stay on the line until a dispatcher answers.  If you don't they'll
consider it a "911 hangup"
and attempt to call you back.  If they can not reach you, they will dispatch
a law enforcement
officer (and in some areas, other emergency services).

The usual call flow I've experianced is this:

I Dial 911
They answer "Minneapolis 911"
I say "This is Shane from company x making a 911 test call."
They will either say "ok" or "Please Hold" if they have other calls waiting.
Once they have said "ok", I'll say "I want to confirm you see my number as
xxx-xxx- and my
address is y"
They will almost always say "Yes, that's what we have"
I'll say "Thank you"
They will say "Good Bye" and hang up.
I'll hang up.

--Shane






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Re: [asterisk-users] 911 Testing

2006-08-13 Thread Shane Young
Quoting Leif Neland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

>
> According to what I've read somewhere, at least our 911 (112) has an
> answering machine, saying "Alarm central, one moment" and a few seconds
> delay, before the call actually is signaled to the dispatcher, to filter out
> misdials and crank calls.
>
> So if you hang up quickly, they'll never know or be bothered.

In Minnesota (probably most places in the US) Once you have dialed 911, even if 
it was in error, you
should stay on the line until a dispatcher answers.  If you don't they'll 
consider it a "911 hangup"
and attempt to call you back.  If they can not reach you, they will dispatch a 
law enforcement
officer (and in some areas, other emergency services).

The usual call flow I've experianced is this:

I Dial 911
They answer "Minneapolis 911"
I say "This is Shane from company x making a 911 test call."
They will either say "ok" or "Please Hold" if they have other calls waiting.
Once they have said "ok", I'll say "I want to confirm you see my number as 
xxx-xxx- and my
address is y"
They will almost always say "Yes, that's what we have"
I'll say "Thank you"
They will say "Good Bye" and hang up.
I'll hang up.

--Shane






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Re: [asterisk-users] 911 Testing

2006-08-13 Thread Leif Neland
Rich Adamson wrote:
> Dovid Bender wrote:
>> Good Morning List,
>> When setting up a pbx and you want to test your 911 settings do you
>> call 911 and tell them its a test call or do you relly that you set
>> it up properly and hope for the best when some one call's 911 ?
>
> I believe most 911 centers would prefer you call their non-emergency
> number before testing to let them know what you're about to do. They
> may suggest a less busy time to do the tests, etc.
>
> I know a lot of installers that just dial 911 without any previous
> contact and I don't recall any of them getting chewed out for doing
> it. Guess if you keep the conversation short its less likely to be a
> bother.

According to what I've read somewhere, at least our 911 (112) has an
answering machine, saying "Alarm central, one moment" and a few seconds
delay, before the call actually is signaled to the dispatcher, to filter out
misdials and crank calls.

So if you hang up quickly, they'll never know or be bothered.

Leif



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Re: [asterisk-users] 911 Testing

2006-08-13 Thread Rich Adamson

Dovid Bender wrote:

Good Morning List,
When setting up a pbx and you want to test your 911 settings do you call 
911 and tell them its a test call or do you relly that you set it up 
properly and hope for the best when some one call's 911 ?


I believe most 911 centers would prefer you call their non-emergency 
number before testing to let them know what you're about to do. They may 
suggest a less busy time to do the tests, etc.


I know a lot of installers that just dial 911 without any previous 
contact and I don't recall any of them getting chewed out for doing it. 
Guess if you keep the conversation short its less likely to be a bother.


From a quality control perspective, I'm sure they would appreciate a 
test call to ensure caller id / ani, street address, etc, are accurate.


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