Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk & EC2

[Aryan Ameri]

On Tue Apr 28 2009 09:19:56 GMT+1000 (EST) Eric Chamberlain  wrote:
> 
> The original Feodra 8 image came from the Amazon EC2 team, they  
> optimized it to run in EC2.  I chose the Amazon fc8 image, because I'm  
> not comfortable getting OS images from third-parties.  When Amazon  
> releases new images, I'll update the guide.  You might want to  
> consider installing fc8 then upgrading to a newer release.

Thanks for the explanation for using FC8 Eric. It makes sense.

You might also look into Ubuntu now. Ubuntu has an official EC2 release now, 
and they publish their AMIs and maintain them.


> To build DAHDI kernel modules, all you have to do is setup your OS of  
> choice to use a build environment that matches the Amazon kernel you  
> are using.
> 
> 
> 
> Latency is pretty route specific.  Amazon has good bandwidth, but I  
> would avoid proxying media if possible.
> 
> We haven't had any reliability problems with EC2 hosting our Asterisk  
> real-time application servers.
> 



That's good to know. It's good to know that Asterisk is being used in a 
production environment in EC2.

And thanks for the guideline.

Cheers
-- 
Aryan

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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk & EC2

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On Apr 25, 2009, at 10:31 PM, Aryan Ameri wrote:

>
> The second one, is built on a custom Fedora 8 image. The steps are not
> repeatable on any other distro, not even a stock official Fedora 8  
> one. Fedora
> 8 itself is long EOLed and as such, not something I'd want to use on a
> production server. Dahdi compilation as described on that guide  
> doesn't work
> on CentOS or Ubuntu or Debian.

Aryan,

The original Feodra 8 image came from the Amazon EC2 team, they  
optimized it to run in EC2.  I chose the Amazon fc8 image, because I'm  
not comfortable getting OS images from third-parties.  When Amazon  
releases new images, I'll update the guide.  You might want to  
consider installing fc8 then upgrading to a newer release.

To build DAHDI kernel modules, all you have to do is setup your OS of  
choice to use a build environment that matches the Amazon kernel you  
are using.


>
>
> Besides, I asked about anecdotal usage experiences running Asterisk  
> on EC2.
> About whether latency is an issue if extensions are outside the EC2
> availability zone. About reliability of EC2 when used to host a real- 
> time
> application server. Not just an installation guideline.

Latency is pretty route specific.  Amazon has good bandwidth, but I  
would avoid proxying media if possible.

We haven't had any reliability problems with EC2 hosting our Asterisk  
real-time application servers.

--
Eric Chamberlain, Founder
RF.com - http://RF.com/







You do realize that your initials are EC ;) so amazon is your next logical
step

BTW trying EC2 for 1 week now, and its running better at 1 unit, then most
dedicated boxes out there.





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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk & EC2

[Eric Chamberlain]

On Apr 25, 2009, at 10:31 PM, Aryan Ameri wrote:

>
> The second one, is built on a custom Fedora 8 image. The steps are not
> repeatable on any other distro, not even a stock official Fedora 8  
> one. Fedora
> 8 itself is long EOLed and as such, not something I'd want to use on a
> production server. Dahdi compilation as described on that guide  
> doesn't work
> on CentOS or Ubuntu or Debian.

Aryan,

The original Feodra 8 image came from the Amazon EC2 team, they  
optimized it to run in EC2.  I chose the Amazon fc8 image, because I'm  
not comfortable getting OS images from third-parties.  When Amazon  
releases new images, I'll update the guide.  You might want to  
consider installing fc8 then upgrading to a newer release.

To build DAHDI kernel modules, all you have to do is setup your OS of  
choice to use a build environment that matches the Amazon kernel you  
are using.


>
>
> Besides, I asked about anecdotal usage experiences running Asterisk  
> on EC2.
> About whether latency is an issue if extensions are outside the EC2
> availability zone. About reliability of EC2 when used to host a real- 
> time
> application server. Not just an installation guideline.

Latency is pretty route specific.  Amazon has good bandwidth, but I  
would avoid proxying media if possible.

We haven't had any reliability problems with EC2 hosting our Asterisk  
real-time application servers.

--
Eric Chamberlain, Founder
RF.com - http://RF.com/








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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk & EC2

[M Hulber]

I followed the Ronald Lewis instructions and was able to get EC2 to run 
Asterisk.  I was able to use IAX2 so I'm not sure what you are saying.  
You should also be able to build dahdi but of course you won't have any 
physical devices in the machine.  I think for meet-me dahdi provides a 
software timer.

I have not tested it enough to know about issues with quality but the 
first reference uses a particular kernel to help avoid local timing 
issues with the VM.

Aryan Ameri wrote:
> On Sun Apr 26 2009 02:48:13 GMT+1000 (EST) Kai-Uwe Jensen 
>  
> wrote:
>   
>> There's a boat-load of articles on the web with step-by-step guidance. 
>> The first I became aware of was 
>> http://ronaldlewis.com/asterisk-pbx-on-amazon-ec2-how-to-guide-almost-complete/
>>  
>> , another good one is http://voxilla.com/2009/2/13/asterisk-amazon-ec2-1178
>>
>> Google is your friend.
>> 
>
>
> Thanks. Google has not been my friend, that's why I'm asking this mailing 
> list.
>
> The first guide that you link to, is by a guy who obviously doesn't know why 
> dahdi/zaptel are important, and completely ignores it, which means, no IAX2 
> or 
> meet-me.
>
> The second one, is built on a custom Fedora 8 image. The steps are not 
> repeatable on any other distro, not even a stock official Fedora 8 one. 
> Fedora 
> 8 itself is long EOLed and as such, not something I'd want to use on a 
> production server. Dahdi compilation as described on that guide doesn't work 
> on CentOS or Ubuntu or Debian.
>
> Besides, I asked about anecdotal usage experiences running Asterisk on EC2. 
> About whether latency is an issue if extensions are outside the EC2 
> availability zone. About reliability of EC2 when used to host a real-time 
> application server. Not just an installation guideline.
>
> It seems like no one is using Asterisk on EC2 for a production environment.
>
> Cheers
>   

-- 

MARK.

Hulber Technologies
asterisk-ad...@hulber.com

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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk & EC2

[Aryan Ameri]

On Sun Apr 26 2009 02:48:13 GMT+1000 (EST) Kai-Uwe Jensen  
wrote:
> There's a boat-load of articles on the web with step-by-step guidance. 
> The first I became aware of was 
> http://ronaldlewis.com/asterisk-pbx-on-amazon-ec2-how-to-guide-almost-complete/
>  
> , another good one is http://voxilla.com/2009/2/13/asterisk-amazon-ec2-1178
> 
> Google is your friend.


Thanks. Google has not been my friend, that's why I'm asking this mailing list.

The first guide that you link to, is by a guy who obviously doesn't know why 
dahdi/zaptel are important, and completely ignores it, which means, no IAX2 or 
meet-me.

The second one, is built on a custom Fedora 8 image. The steps are not 
repeatable on any other distro, not even a stock official Fedora 8 one. Fedora 
8 itself is long EOLed and as such, not something I'd want to use on a 
production server. Dahdi compilation as described on that guide doesn't work 
on CentOS or Ubuntu or Debian.

Besides, I asked about anecdotal usage experiences running Asterisk on EC2. 
About whether latency is an issue if extensions are outside the EC2 
availability zone. About reliability of EC2 when used to host a real-time 
application server. Not just an installation guideline.

It seems like no one is using Asterisk on EC2 for a production environment.

Cheers
-- 
Aryan Ameri

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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk & EC2

[Eric Chamberlain]

On Apr 24, 2009, at 3:30 PM, Aryan Ameri wrote:

> Has anyone been able to get asterisk 1.6 running under Xen or Amazon  
> EC2?
>
> If yes, can you share your experience please? Is it usable in a  
> production
> environment? How is the sound quality? Am I likely to suffer from  
> latency
> issues if the extensions are not located in the US?
>
> Any pitfall that I should be aware of?
>


Aryan,

Depending on your use case, Asterisk can run quite well on EC2.

Voxilla is sharing a public Asterisk 1.6 AMI, more information is  
available at 
.


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RF.com - http://RF.com/








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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk & EC2

[Kai-Uwe Jensen]

There's a boat-load of articles on the web with step-by-step guidance. The
first I became aware of was
http://ronaldlewis.com/asterisk-pbx-on-amazon-ec2-how-to-guide-almost-complete/,
another good one is
http://voxilla.com/2009/2/13/asterisk-amazon-ec2-1178

Google is your friend.

On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 1:42 AM, Aryan Ameri  wrote:

>
> Anyone running Asterisk on Amazon EC2?
>
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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk & EC2

[Aryan Ameri]

On Sat Apr 25 2009 10:35:21 GMT+1000 (EST) Mike Gurson  
wrote:
> I am running AsteriskNOW as a VM using OpenSUSE 11 and Xen.
> 
> Download the .iso to the local disk and point the installation source  
> at that.  Also, make sure to choose full virtualization NOT  
> paravirtualized for the VM, graphics and the NIC.


Thanks for sharing that Mike. I guess the issue that I have with Amazon EC2 is 
that I don't have physical access to the server, so isntalling an iso image is 
not possible for me. Good to know that Asterisk works under Xen though.

Anyone running Asterisk on Amazon EC2?

Cheers
-- 
Aryan Ameri

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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk & EC2

[Mike Gurson]

I am running AsteriskNOW as a VM using OpenSUSE 11 and Xen.

Download the .iso to the local disk and point the installation source  
at that.  Also, make sure to choose full virtualization NOT  
paravirtualized for the VM, graphics and the NIC.

I also recommend using a DHCP lease and use a custom MAC so that you  
don't have to assign the static IP using ifconfig or Yast.

I think this covers everything you need to get it running.  I am using  
an SPA-3000 for outbound calls over my POTS line and using a combo of  
SIP hard and soft phones with very good sound quality.

Hope this helps!

-mikeg

On Apr 24, 2009, at 6:30 PM, Aryan Ameri wrote:

> Has anyone been able to get asterisk 1.6 running under Xen or Amazon  
> EC2?
>
> If yes, can you share your experience please? Is it usable in a  
> production
> environment? How is the sound quality? Am I likely to suffer from  
> latency
> issues if the extensions are not located in the US?
>
> Any pitfall that I should be aware of?
>
> Cheers
> -- 
> Aryan Ameri
>
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