Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk as an IVR solution
SO does that mean that if he used BACKGROUND is a SubRoutine he would get the correct or desired action , from his point of view? It would jump to the 1 Extension in the SUBROUTINE ? Tilghman Lesher wrote: On Thursday 10 July 2008 19:13:50 Douglas Garstang wrote: It's a known problem. If you call Background() in a macro, then Asterisk will look for the extensions to jump to in the CALLING Macro/context and NOT the Macro that the Background() app was called in. I wouldn't call it a known problem. It works precisely as it was designed to work. It may not work the way that you want it to, but it works like a Macro: an independent set of instructions, with substitution, that acts as if it were invoked inline with the calling location. That is why Background will match in the context of the calling location: it acts like it never left that original context (and, in a way, it really didn't). Subroutines are a different beast, and they are available with the Gosub/ Return set of routines in app_stack.so. ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk as an IVR solution
Well I can tell you that it makes a difficult programming environment, just a little more difficult. It means I can't implement a menu as a single reusable piece of code inside a macro. - Original Message From: Tilghman Lesher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 6:07:36 PM Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk as an IVR solution On Thursday 10 July 2008 19:13:50 Douglas Garstang wrote: It's a known problem. If you call Background() in a macro, then Asterisk will look for the extensions to jump to in the CALLING Macro/context and NOT the Macro that the Background() app was called in. I wouldn't call it a known problem. It works precisely as it was designed to work. It may not work the way that you want it to, but it works like a Macro: an independent set of instructions, with substitution, that acts as if it were invoked inline with the calling location. That is why Background will match in the context of the calling location: it acts like it never left that original context (and, in a way, it really didn't). Subroutines are a different beast, and they are available with the Gosub/ Return set of routines in app_stack.so. -- Tilghman ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk as an IVR solution
On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 8:28 AM, Douglas Garstang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I can tell you that it makes a difficult programming environment, just a little more difficult. It means I can't implement a menu as a single reusable piece of code inside a macro. I do the IVR stuff in a context and jump to it as needed. The context is reusable from anywhere. ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk as an IVR solution
On Friday 11 July 2008 01:28:34 Douglas Garstang wrote: Well I can tell you that it makes a difficult programming environment, just a little more difficult. It means I can't implement a menu as a single reusable piece of code inside a macro. That's the point. A Macro is NOT a subroutine. It's like saying that you can't effectively hammer a nail with a screwdriver, and therefore you think the screwdriver has a known problem. There's nothing wrong with the screwdriver; it simply is the wrong tool for the job. -- Tilghman ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk as an IVR solution
Yes, and by doing that your compounding the fact that all your variables are global. - Original Message From: randulo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 12:14:28 AM Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk as an IVR solution On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 8:28 AM, Douglas Garstang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I can tell you that it makes a difficult programming environment, just a little more difficult. It means I can't implement a menu as a single reusable piece of code inside a macro. I do the IVR stuff in a context and jump to it as needed. The context is reusable from anywhere. ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk as an IVR solution
On Friday 11 July 2008 01:05:22 Al Baker wrote: Tilghman Lesher wrote: On Thursday 10 July 2008 19:13:50 Douglas Garstang wrote: It's a known problem. If you call Background() in a macro, then Asterisk will look for the extensions to jump to in the CALLING Macro/context and NOT the Macro that the Background() app was called in. I wouldn't call it a known problem. It works precisely as it was designed to work. It may not work the way that you want it to, but it works like a Macro: an independent set of instructions, with substitution, that acts as if it were invoked inline with the calling location. That is why Background will match in the context of the calling location: it acts like it never left that original context (and, in a way, it really didn't). Subroutines are a different beast, and they are available with the Gosub/ Return set of routines in app_stack.so. SO does that mean that if he used BACKGROUND is a SubRoutine he would get the correct or desired action , from his point of view? It would jump to the 1 Extension in the SUBROUTINE ? Yes, if he used Background within a Gosub, it would behave the way that he expects. -- Tilghman ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk as an IVR solution
On Friday 11 July 2008 09:22:25 Douglas Garstang wrote: Yes, and by doing that your compounding the fact that all your variables are global. No, his variables are local to the channel he's using. Global variables are a completely different beast. -- Tilghman ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk as an IVR solution
Well, a macro is the closest thing the dial plan has to a subroutine, and without that, we might as well be programming in Assembler (no subroutines, local variables, lots of goto's... sound familiar?). Doug. - Original Message From: Tilghman Lesher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 7:20:40 AM Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk as an IVR solution On Friday 11 July 2008 01:28:34 Douglas Garstang wrote: Well I can tell you that it makes a difficult programming environment, just a little more difficult. It means I can't implement a menu as a single reusable piece of code inside a macro. That's the point. A Macro is NOT a subroutine. It's like saying that you can't effectively hammer a nail with a screwdriver, and therefore you think the screwdriver has a known problem. There's nothing wrong with the screwdriver; it simply is the wrong tool for the job. -- Tilghman ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk as an IVR solution
Ugh. Yes, the variables are local to the current channel. However, they are global to the entire dial plan within the current channel. I have stepped on myself many times because I've had a loop counter called $i for example, jumped somewhere else within that loop, reused the same variable name, $i, and screwed up my logic. Surely you where aware that's the type of thing I was talking about. I'd be surprised if you didn't. Doug. - Original Message From: Tilghman Lesher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 7:36:54 AM Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk as an IVR solution On Friday 11 July 2008 09:22:25 Douglas Garstang wrote: Yes, and by doing that your compounding the fact that all your variables are global. No, his variables are local to the channel he's using. Global variables are a completely different beast. -- Tilghman ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk as an IVR solution
On Fri, 11 Jul 2008, Douglas Garstang wrote: Ugh. Yes, the variables are local to the current channel. However, they are global to the entire dial plan within the current channel. I have stepped on myself many times because I've had a loop counter called $i for example, jumped somewhere else within that loop, reused the same variable name, $i, and screwed up my logic. Ugh indeed. While I sympathize with your local/global name space issues, you lose credibility with your false economy. IMNSHO, anybody who uses a single [common] letter for a variable deserves a bump in the temperature when they reach their final resting place :) For example, out of the 157 applications on one of my Asterisk servers, 76 contain the letter l. (absolutetimeout, adsiprog, agentcallbacklogin, agentlogin, agentmonitoroutgoing, agi, alarmreceiver, appendcdruserfield, authenticate, changemonitor, chanisavail, congestion, datetime, deadagi, dial, dictate, digittimeout, directory, disa, dundilookup, eagi, endwhile, execif, execiftime, externalivr, festival, getcpeid, gosubif, gotoif, gotoiftime, hasnewvoicemail, hasvoicemail, iax2provision, ices, importvar, lookupblacklist, lookupcidname, macroexit, macroif, mailboxexists, meetmeadmin, milliwatt, mixmonitor, monitor, pickup, privacymanager, readfile, realtime, realtimeupdate, responsetimeout, retrydial, ringing, saydigits, sayphonetic, sayunixtime, sendimage, setcallerid, setcdruserfield, setcidname, setcidnum, setrdnis, settransfercapabilit, sipaddheader, sipdtmfmode, sipgetheader, stopmonitor, testclient, txtcidname, vmauthenticate, voicemail, voicemailmain, wait, waitexten, waitforring, waitforsilence, while) Surely you can come up with a name slightly more descriptive -- maybe idx? Take pity on the next sod that has to plod through your dialplan. The millisecond you spend typing a more meaningful name will be returned to you (or your employer) a millionfold. - Original Message From: Tilghman Lesher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 7:36:54 AM Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk as an IVR solution On Friday 11 July 2008 09:22:25 Douglas Garstang wrote: Yes, and by doing that your compounding the fact that all your variables are global. No, his variables are local to the channel he's using. Global variables are a completely different beast. -- Tilghman ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users Thanks in advance, Steve Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] Voice: +1-760-468-3867 PST Newline Fax: +1-760-731-3000 ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk as an IVR solution
On Friday 11 July 2008 09:40:55 Douglas Garstang wrote: Well, a macro is the closest thing the dial plan has to a subroutine, and without that, we might as well be programming in Assembler (no subroutines, local variables, lots of goto's... sound familiar?). I've mentioned Gosub at least twice before in this thread, which implements a subroutine. -- Tilghman ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk as an IVR solution
A subroutine with arguments? - Original Message From: Tilghman Lesher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 8:58:46 AM Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk as an IVR solution On Friday 11 July 2008 09:40:55 Douglas Garstang wrote: Well, a macro is the closest thing the dial plan has to a subroutine, and without that, we might as well be programming in Assembler (no subroutines, local variables, lots of goto's... sound familiar?). I've mentioned Gosub at least twice before in this thread, which implements a subroutine. -- Tilghman ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk as an IVR solution
Fine, I'll call it ${LoopVariable} then... how's that going to fix the problem?
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Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 8:43:47 AM
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk as an IVR solution
On Fri, 11 Jul 2008, Douglas Garstang wrote:
Ugh. Yes, the variables are local to the current channel. However, they
are global to the entire dial plan within the current channel. I have
stepped on myself many times because I've had a loop counter called $i
for example, jumped somewhere else within that loop, reused the same
variable name, $i, and screwed up my logic.
Ugh indeed. While I sympathize with your local/global name space issues,
you lose credibility with your false economy.
IMNSHO, anybody who uses a single [common] letter for a variable deserves
a bump in the temperature when they reach their final resting place :)
For example, out of the 157 applications on one of my Asterisk servers, 76
contain the letter l.
(absolutetimeout, adsiprog, agentcallbacklogin, agentlogin,
agentmonitoroutgoing, agi, alarmreceiver, appendcdruserfield,
authenticate, changemonitor, chanisavail, congestion, datetime, deadagi,
dial, dictate, digittimeout, directory, disa, dundilookup, eagi, endwhile,
execif, execiftime, externalivr, festival, getcpeid, gosubif, gotoif,
gotoiftime, hasnewvoicemail, hasvoicemail, iax2provision, ices, importvar,
lookupblacklist, lookupcidname, macroexit, macroif, mailboxexists,
meetmeadmin, milliwatt, mixmonitor, monitor, pickup, privacymanager,
readfile, realtime, realtimeupdate, responsetimeout, retrydial, ringing,
saydigits, sayphonetic, sayunixtime, sendimage, setcallerid,
setcdruserfield, setcidname, setcidnum, setrdnis, settransfercapabilit,
sipaddheader, sipdtmfmode, sipgetheader, stopmonitor, testclient,
txtcidname, vmauthenticate, voicemail, voicemailmain, wait, waitexten,
waitforring, waitforsilence, while)
Surely you can come up with a name slightly more descriptive -- maybe
idx?
Take pity on the next sod that has to plod through your dialplan. The
millisecond you spend typing a more meaningful name will be returned to
you (or your employer) a millionfold.
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Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk as an IVR solution
On Friday 11 July 2008 09:22:25 Douglas Garstang wrote:
Yes, and by doing that your compounding the fact that all your variables
are global.
No, his variables are local to the channel he's using. Global variables are
a completely different beast.
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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk as an IVR solution
On Friday 11 July 2008 12:07:37 Douglas Garstang wrote: A subroutine with arguments? In 1.6, yes, or in the 1.4 backport, yes. -- Tilghman ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk as an IVR solution
From: Steve Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 11 Jul 2008, Douglas Garstang wrote:
Ugh. Yes, the variables are local to the current channel. However, they
are global to the entire dial plan within the current channel. I have
stepped on myself many times because I've had a loop counter called $i
for example, jumped somewhere else within that loop, reused the same
variable name, $i, and screwed up my logic.
Ugh indeed. While I sympathize with your local/global name space issues,
you lose credibility with your false economy.
IMNSHO, anybody who uses a single [common] letter for a variable
deserves a bump in the temperature when they reach their final resting
place :)
Surely you can come up with a name slightly more descriptive -- maybe
idx?
Take pity on the next sod that has to plod through your dialplan. The
millisecond you spend typing a more meaningful name will be returned
to you (or your employer) a millionfold.
On Fri, 11 Jul 2008, Douglas Garstang wrote:
Fine, I'll call it ${LoopVariable} then... how's that going to fix the
problem?
It (obviously) doesn't. It just fixes the next guy's problem when he
tries to read your dialplan -- as stated above.
I'm just suggesting better practices. Even examples should demonstrate
best practices because they form the basis of some coders only source of
knowledge.
Kind of like not top posting in a list where the posted etiquette is
not top posting ;)
Thanks in advance,
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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk as an IVR solution
Could you clarify how you end up with 1.4 Backport ? If you go to DIGIUM and download 1.4 do you have a backport 1.4 or is there a super-secret-non-more-secret-archive one would get it from ? I have never really understood this. Thank You Tilghman Lesher wrote: On Friday 11 July 2008 12:07:37 Douglas Garstang wrote: A subroutine with arguments? In 1.6, yes, or in the 1.4 backport, yes. ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk as an IVR solution
Douglas Garstang wrote: Well, a macro is the closest thing the dial plan has to a subroutine, and without that, we might as well be programming in Assembler (no subroutines, local variables, lots of goto's... sound familiar?). Doug. - Original Message From: Tilghman Lesher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 7:20:40 AM Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk as an IVR solution On Friday 11 July 2008 01:28:34 Douglas Garstang wrote: Well I can tell you that it makes a difficult programming environment, just a little more difficult. It means I can't implement a menu as a single reusable piece of code inside a macro. That's the point. A Macro is NOT a subroutine. It's like saying that you can't effectively hammer a nail with a screwdriver, and therefore you think the screwdriver has a known problem. There's nothing wrong with the screwdriver; it simply is the wrong tool for the job. I must somewhat disagree with you on this. 1) A MACRO could reasonably viewed as the Current Context, so if the jumping/branching from extension to extension that takes place in other contexts, it would if fact be quite reasonable and expected that this would happen in a MACRO. 2) As SUBROUTINES did not come standard until 1.6, it might be reasonably stated that no appropriate tool existed until 1.6, and since good programming practice uses subroutines, and a MACRO did not work like subroutine, even though it LOOKS like one, people are not fully happy that the closest tool they had, did not do the job Just a thought , no flame intended or implied. ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk as an IVR solution
Thank You - clears up a LOT I did not fully grasp Tilghman Lesher wrote: On Friday 11 July 2008 01:05:22 Al Baker wrote: Tilghman Lesher wrote: On Thursday 10 July 2008 19:13:50 Douglas Garstang wrote: It's a known problem. If you call Background() in a macro, then Asterisk will look for the extensions to jump to in the CALLING Macro/context and NOT the Macro that the Background() app was called in. I wouldn't call it a known problem. It works precisely as it was designed to work. It may not work the way that you want it to, but it works like a Macro: an independent set of instructions, with substitution, that acts as if it were invoked inline with the calling location. That is why Background will match in the context of the calling location: it acts like it never left that original context (and, in a way, it really didn't). Subroutines are a different beast, and they are available with the Gosub/ Return set of routines in app_stack.so. SO does that mean that if he used BACKGROUND is a SubRoutine he would get the correct or desired action , from his point of view? It would jump to the 1 Extension in the SUBROUTINE ? Yes, if he used Background within a Gosub, it would behave the way that he expects. ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk as an IVR solution
On Friday 11 July 2008 21:24:10 Al Baker wrote: Tilghman Lesher wrote: On Friday 11 July 2008 12:07:37 Douglas Garstang wrote: A subroutine with arguments? In 1.6, yes, or in the 1.4 backport, yes. Could you clarify how you end up with 1.4 Backport ? If you go to DIGIUM and download 1.4 do you have a backport 1.4 or is there a super-secret-non-more-secret-archive one would get it from ? I have never really understood this. The backport exists on svncommunity: http://svncommunity.digium.com/view/app_stack/1.4/ I also have two other repositories on svncommunity, both for backports: http://svncommunity.digium.com/view/func_odbc/1.4/ http://svncommunity.digium.com/view/tilghman/branches/1.4/ -- Tilghman ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk as an IVR solution
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 1:25 PM, Mark Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. We are building an application that will provide users with the ability to call in and report an absence. The caller will have to validate themselves and the call tree will be dynamic, based on data in a MySQL database. We will have many customers, each calling a separate phone number, each having a different call tree. New customers will be added regularly and we do not want a solution that requires extensive programming each time (the call trees are different in subtle ways from each other). Is Asterisk a great solution for this? If not do you know what would? If so, we need someone to help us set it up, can you suggest someone? Thanks in advance. Best. Mark Asterisk certainly is a great solution for this. If you find you need or want extra flexibility, the external IVR app. http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=Asterisk+cmd+ExternalIVR Thanks, Steve Totaro ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk as an IVR solution
Yes,asterisk can do that On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 12:25 PM, Mark Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. We are building an application that will provide users with the ability to call in and report an absence. The caller will have to validate themselves and the call tree will be dynamic, based on data in a MySQL database. We will have many customers, each calling a separate phone number, each having a different call tree. New customers will be added regularly and we do not want a solution that requires extensive programming each time (the call trees are different in subtle ways from each other). Is Asterisk a great solution for this? If not do you know what would? If so, we need someone to help us set it up, can you suggest someone? Thanks in advance. Best. Mark ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Leotis Buchanan Manager/Electronic Design Systems Engineer Exterbox.com ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk as an IVR solution
Hey, I am doing a similar project , which we will be integrating mysql db and a ivr, maybe we can work on this together since we will be sharing components. This should save us both some time. On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 12:25 PM, Mark Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. We are building an application that will provide users with the ability to call in and report an absence. The caller will have to validate themselves and the call tree will be dynamic, based on data in a MySQL database. We will have many customers, each calling a separate phone number, each having a different call tree. New customers will be added regularly and we do not want a solution that requires extensive programming each time (the call trees are different in subtle ways from each other). Is Asterisk a great solution for this? If not do you know what would? If so, we need someone to help us set it up, can you suggest someone? Thanks in advance. Best. Mark ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Leotis Buchanan Manager/Electronic Design Systems Engineer Exterbox.com ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk as an IVR solution
Admittedly I have not used the ExternalIVR app. Is it any good? I'm not sure I agree that Asterisk is GOOD for building IVR's. Sure, it can do it, but boy it is UGLY. There's also the fact that you can't call Backgound() in a macro, which forces you to use Read() which won't accept a timeout of 1s. There's no DTMF background detection while playing SayDigits so you have to roll your own by calling an external AGI and concatenating sound files. Yuck. By the time you code in logic for handling timeouts and incorrect responses to menu's with all the gotos and what-not, it turns into a god aweful mess. Sure, you can do it. Doug. - Original Message From: Steve Totaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:37:55 AM Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk as an IVR solution On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 1:25 PM, Mark Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. We are building an application that will provide users with the ability to call in and report an absence. The caller will have to validate themselves and the call tree will be dynamic, based on data in a MySQL database. We will have many customers, each calling a separate phone number, each having a different call tree. New customers will be added regularly and we do not want a solution that requires extensive programming each time (the call trees are different in subtle ways from each other). Is Asterisk a great solution for this? If not do you know what would? If so, we need someone to help us set it up, can you suggest someone? Thanks in advance. Best. Mark Asterisk certainly is a great solution for this. If you find you need or want extra flexibility, the external IVR app. http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=Asterisk+cmd+ExternalIVR Thanks, Steve Totaro ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk as an IVR solution
From what I can tell Read allows for a floating point input which uses ast_waitfordigit that accepts milliseconds as input. Douglas Garstang wrote: Admittedly I have not used the ExternalIVR app. Is it any good? I'm not sure I agree that Asterisk is GOOD for building IVR's. Sure, it can do it, but boy it is UGLY. There's also the fact that you can't call Backgound() in a macro, which forces you to use Read() which won't accept a timeout of 1s. There's no DTMF background detection while playing SayDigits so you have to roll your own by calling an external AGI and concatenating sound files. Yuck. By the time you code in logic for handling timeouts and incorrect responses to menu's with all the gotos and what-not, it turns into a god aweful mess. Sure, you can do it. Doug. - Original Message From: Steve Totaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:37:55 AM Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk as an IVR solution On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 1:25 PM, Mark Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. We are building an application that will provide users with the ability to call in and report an absence. The caller will have to validate themselves and the call tree will be dynamic, based on data in a MySQL database. We will have many customers, each calling a separate phone number, each having a different call tree. New customers will be added regularly and we do not want a solution that requires extensive programming each time (the call trees are different in subtle ways from each other). Is Asterisk a great solution for this? If not do you know what would? If so, we need someone to help us set it up, can you suggest someone? Thanks in advance. Best. Mark Asterisk certainly is a great solution for this. If you find you need or want extra flexibility, the external IVR app. http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=Asterisk+cmd+ExternalIVR Thanks, Steve Totaro ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk as an IVR solution
Don't know about Asterisk 1.4, but in Asterisk 1.2 it expects the input in seconds. If you try and use 0, it seems to drop back to a default of 5s. - Original Message From: MFH [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 12:37:31 PM Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk as an IVR solution From what I can tell Read allows for a floating point input which uses ast_waitfordigit that accepts milliseconds as input. Douglas Garstang wrote: Admittedly I have not used the ExternalIVR app. Is it any good? I'm not sure I agree that Asterisk is GOOD for building IVR's. Sure, it can do it, but boy it is UGLY. There's also the fact that you can't call Backgound() in a macro, which forces you to use Read() which won't accept a timeout of 1s. There's no DTMF background detection while playing SayDigits so you have to roll your own by calling an external AGI and concatenating sound files. Yuck. By the time you code in logic for handling timeouts and incorrect responses to menu's with all the gotos and what-not, it turns into a god aweful mess. Sure, you can do it. Doug. - Original Message From: Steve Totaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:37:55 AM Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk as an IVR solution On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 1:25 PM, Mark Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. We are building an application that will provide users with the ability to call in and report an absence. The caller will have to validate themselves and the call tree will be dynamic, based on data in a MySQL database. We will have many customers, each calling a separate phone number, each having a different call tree. New customers will be added regularly and we do not want a solution that requires extensive programming each time (the call trees are different in subtle ways from each other). Is Asterisk a great solution for this? If not do you know what would? If so, we need someone to help us set it up, can you suggest someone? Thanks in advance. Best. Mark Asterisk certainly is a great solution for this. If you find you need or want extra flexibility, the external IVR app. http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=Asterisk+cmd+ExternalIVR Thanks, Steve Totaro ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk as an IVR solution
Why can't you call Background() from a MACRO ? Isn't is just an Application like any other ? Curious minds want to know ! Quote There's also the fact that you can't call Backgound() in a macro, Douglas Garstang wrote: Don't know about Asterisk 1.4, but in Asterisk 1.2 it expects the input in seconds. If you try and use 0, it seems to drop back to a default of 5s. - Original Message From: MFH [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 12:37:31 PM Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk as an IVR solution From what I can tell Read allows for a floating point input which uses ast_waitfordigit that accepts milliseconds as input. Douglas Garstang wrote: Admittedly I have not used the ExternalIVR app. Is it any good? I'm not sure I agree that Asterisk is GOOD for building IVR's. Sure, it can do it, but boy it is UGLY. There's also the fact that you can't call Backgound() in a macro, which forces you to use Read() which won't accept a timeout of 1s. There's no DTMF background detection while playing SayDigits so you have to roll your own by calling an external AGI and concatenating sound files. Yuck. By the time you code in logic for handling timeouts and incorrect responses to menu's with all the gotos and what-not, it turns into a god aweful mess. Sure, you can do it. Doug. - Original Message From: Steve Totaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com mailto:asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:37:55 AM Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk as an IVR solution On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 1:25 PM, Mark Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. We are building an application that will provide users with the ability to call in and report an absence. The caller will have to validate themselves and the call tree will be dynamic, based on data in a MySQL database. We will have many customers, each calling a separate phone number, each having a different call tree. New customers will be added regularly and we do not want a solution that requires extensive programming each time (the call trees are different in subtle ways from each other). Is Asterisk a great solution for this? If not do you know what would? If so, we need someone to help us set it up, can you suggest someone? Thanks in advance. Best. Mark Asterisk certainly is a great solution for this. If you find you need or want extra flexibility, the external IVR app. http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=Asterisk+cmd+ExternalIVR Thanks, Steve Totaro ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk as an IVR solution
Yes , you could easily do this with asterisk. If you have formal specs for this project, I would be interested in exactly what you are trying to do. Email me off-line. Steve Totaro wrote: On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 1:25 PM, Mark Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. We are building an application that will provide users with the ability to call in and report an absence. The caller will have to validate themselves and the call tree will be dynamic, based on data in a MySQL database. We will have many customers, each calling a separate phone number, each having a different call tree. New customers will be added regularly and we do not want a solution that requires extensive programming each time (the call trees are different in subtle ways from each other). Is Asterisk a great solution for this? If not do you know what would? If so, we need someone to help us set it up, can you suggest someone? Thanks in advance. Best. Mark Asterisk certainly is a great solution for this. If you find you need or want extra flexibility, the external IVR app. http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=Asterisk+cmd+ExternalIVR Thanks, Steve Totaro ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk as an IVR solution
It's a known problem. If you call Background() in a macro, then Asterisk will look for the extensions to jump to in the CALLING Macro/context and NOT the Macro that the Background() app was called in. Eg: [macro-DoSomething] exten = s,1,Background(Prompt) exten = 1,1,NoOP() [context1] exten = s,1,Macro(DoSomething) If you press 1, Asterisk will look for an extension '1' in the context 'context1', NOT the 'DoSomething' macro. Doug. - Original Message From: Al Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 4:50:19 PM Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk as an IVR solution Why can't you call Background() from a MACRO ? Isn't is just an Application like any other ? Curious minds want to know ! Quote There's also the fact that you can't call Backgound() in a macro, Douglas Garstang wrote: Don't know about Asterisk 1.4, but in Asterisk 1.2 it expects the input in seconds. If you try and use 0, it seems to drop back to a default of 5s. - Original Message From: MFH [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 12:37:31 PM Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk as an IVR solution From what I can tell Read allows for a floating point input which uses ast_waitfordigit that accepts milliseconds as input. Douglas Garstang wrote: Admittedly I have not used the ExternalIVR app. Is it any good? I'm not sure I agree that Asterisk is GOOD for building IVR's. Sure, it can do it, but boy it is UGLY. There's also the fact that you can't call Backgound() in a macro, which forces you to use Read() which won't accept a timeout of 1s. There's no DTMF background detection while playing SayDigits so you have to roll your own by calling an external AGI and concatenating sound files. Yuck. By the time you code in logic for handling timeouts and incorrect responses to menu's with all the gotos and what-not, it turns into a god aweful mess. Sure, you can do it. Doug. - Original Message From: Steve Totaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com mailto:asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:37:55 AM Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk as an IVR solution On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 1:25 PM, Mark Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. We are building an application that will provide users with the ability to call in and report an absence. The caller will have to validate themselves and the call tree will be dynamic, based on data in a MySQL database. We will have many customers, each calling a separate phone number, each having a different call tree. New customers will be added regularly and we do not want a solution that requires extensive programming each time (the call trees are different in subtle ways from each other). Is Asterisk a great solution for this? If not do you know what would? If so, we need someone to help us set it up, can you suggest someone? Thanks in advance. Best. Mark Asterisk certainly is a great solution for this. If you find you need or want extra flexibility, the external IVR app. http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=Asterisk+cmd+ExternalIVR Thanks, Steve Totaro ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk as an IVR solution
On Thursday 10 July 2008 19:13:50 Douglas Garstang wrote: It's a known problem. If you call Background() in a macro, then Asterisk will look for the extensions to jump to in the CALLING Macro/context and NOT the Macro that the Background() app was called in. I wouldn't call it a known problem. It works precisely as it was designed to work. It may not work the way that you want it to, but it works like a Macro: an independent set of instructions, with substitution, that acts as if it were invoked inline with the calling location. That is why Background will match in the context of the calling location: it acts like it never left that original context (and, in a way, it really didn't). Subroutines are a different beast, and they are available with the Gosub/ Return set of routines in app_stack.so. -- Tilghman ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk as an IVR solution
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 9:07 PM, Tilghman Lesher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 10 July 2008 19:13:50 Douglas Garstang wrote: It's a known problem. If you call Background() in a macro, then Asterisk will look for the extensions to jump to in the CALLING Macro/context and NOT the Macro that the Background() app was called in. I wouldn't call it a known problem. It works precisely as it was designed to work. It may not work the way that you want it to, but it works like a Macro: an independent set of instructions, with substitution, that acts as if it were invoked inline with the calling location. That is why Background will match in the context of the calling location: it acts like it never left that original context (and, in a way, it really didn't). Subroutines are a different beast, and they are available with the Gosub/ Return set of routines in app_stack.so. -- Tilghman See this thread for info on who paid for ExternalIVR, who uses(used?) it and some history. http://www.asteriskguru.com/archives/image-vp255203.html Thanks, Steve Totaro ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
