Re: [asterisk-users] Be aware of callcheap.com and Mike Low - It is scam

[Steve Totaro]

On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 5:09 AM, Zeeshan Zakaria <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi everybody,
>
> Recently I was ripped off by this company named Callcheap Networks Inc, and
> so did one of the carriers I recommended to them. Now I am perusing legal
> action against them, a mess in which I never wanted to get into. Based on my
> bad experience, I wanted to let everybody know if this guy named Mike Low
> from Call Cheap Networks Inc. (callcheap.com) contacts you, please be
> careful. If you decide to do business with him, please get your money in
> advance and don't believe him on saying that he'd pay once the work is done
> or next week or tomorrow. He came to me from another company, with whom he
> hosted a callback service. He blamed them of bad service and asked me to
> setup a call back service for him. He seemed to be a genuine and honest
> person with very good plans for his business. He asked me for a good
> provider and I recommended him one. But when it came to pay for the service,
> he started to ask for more time. He did the same with the carrier. And after
> about month and a half, not paying to any one of us and using, or should I
> say misuing our trunks and services for his users and users of another
> company, he refused to pay us at all and blamed us for bad service, damage
> to his business and other non-sense. Once the carrier disconnect him after
> suffering a huge loss, and me refusing to do any further work for him unless
> my invoices are cleared, he threatening me to bring to court for
> disconnecting him, and is now looking for another company to host his
> callback service. During this month and a half, I also noticed that
> callcheap.com's website has changed its face and host three times. I have
> screen shots for last two for my record.
>
> If anybody of you have worked with this guy before, maybe they could share
> their experience here. And those who haven't, and if this guy contacts you,
> please be careful.
>
> --
> Zeeshan A Zakaria
>
> 


While pending legal action, it is best to not post these things in a public
forum.

While I appreciate the fact you are trying to help the community by giving a
"heads up", you set yourself up for a counter suit for defamation of
character.

It is best to wait for court to rule before going public.

At the very least, use a hushmail account and post a warning with no
identifiable transactions or actions, just watch out for so and so, although
I still think posting one sided things to a list serves nobody well, if they
have no way to address the accusations, and like I said before, it is best
to do it court.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Be aware of callcheap.com and Mike Low - It is scam

[Zeeshan Zakaria]

I also thought about it. Maybe I should not have posted it here. But I know
he is actively searching for another company. Just don't want any other
provider to suffer.

Zeeshan
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Re: [asterisk-users] Be aware of callcheap.com and Mike Low - It is scam

[Steve Totaro]

On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 5:43 PM, Zeeshan Zakaria <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I also thought about it. Maybe I should not have posted it here. But I know
> he is actively searching for another company. Just don't want any other
> provider to suffer.
>
> Zeeshan
>
>
Again, your motives are admirable in my opinion, execution was flawed.

If I were you though, I would post from a hushmail.com with no specific
details that could tie the posting to you directly, just enough to put out
the "Heads Up"

I personally would also CC the person in question so they are aware of the
posting and can reply.  Maybe even incriminate themselves if you are lucky.

The key is to keep your identity secret while bringing attention to the
matter, if you feel you must, and give them a chance to defend themselves
(or incriminate).

The other thing is that your post really belongs on the -biz list and would
probably have a better chance of alerting someone who may fall victim to a
scammer.  There is so much competition, that I assume it is quite easy to
fall for a deal from someone that sounds sincere, to make a few dollars.

I cannot really see setting up accounts with live trunks that are not on a
prepaid system unless you have been dealing with the person/organization for
quite some time, or you pull their business credit report and hold them
personally responsible as well as their corporation through a legally
binding contract.

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