Re: [asterisk-users] Count Available Queue members

2009-07-18 Thread Steve Totaro
On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Gabriel Ortiz Lour
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
>   Someone know how can I check for available members on a queue Before I
> queue the call, so I can do something else with it? Note that is not the
> case for joinempty
>
> Thanks,
> Gabriel Ortiz
>
>
Maybe too simple or not what you are looking for, but you can timeout people
in the queue quickly and then redirect them via the dialplan.

Similar to the cascading queues below, but do what you want.

http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+call+queues
Cascading Queues You can set up a series of queues that cascade to each
other. You can get a similar effect by using the penalty feature but this
can be a better way to do things for some situations (e.g. if you want to
overflow calls to your receptionist into your office for when your
receptionist is busy).

The first thing you must do is have a timeout on our queue. This is done as
a parameter of the Queue command used in extensions.conf (example:
Queue(dave|t|||45)).

You can then set up a number of queues and simply have your dialplan call
each queue in succession.

example:
 exten => 1589,1,Answer
 exten => 1589,2,Ringing
 exten => 1589,3,Wait(2)
 exten => 1589,4,Queue(testq|t|||45)
 exten => 1589,5,Queue(testq2|t|||45)
 exten => 1589,6,Hangup

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Re: [asterisk-users] Count Available Queue members

2009-07-18 Thread Jim Dickenson
Maybe this function will help

QUEUE_MEMBER_COUNTQUEUE_MEMBER_COUNT()  Count number of
members answering a queue

This is in at least version 1.6.0.x.

There are a few other related functions that can be seen by using the CLI
command:

core show functions like QUEUE

Function names are upper case so you need to use upper case when trying to
list them!

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Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 11:17:05 -0400
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Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Count Available Queue members



On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Gabriel Ortiz Lour 
wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
>   Someone know how can I check for available members on a queue Before I queue
> the call, so I can do something else with it? Note that is not the case for
> joinempty
> 
> Thanks,
> Gabriel Ortiz
> 

Maybe too simple or not what you are looking for, but you can timeout people
in the queue quickly and then redirect them via the dialplan.

Similar to the cascading queues below, but do what you want.

http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+call+queues
Cascading Queues 
You can set up a series of queues that cascade to each other. You can get a
similar effect by using the penalty feature but this can be a better way to
do things for some situations (e.g. if you want to overflow calls to your
receptionist into your office for when your receptionist is busy).

The first thing you must do is have a timeout on our queue. This is done as
a parameter of the Queue command used in extensions.conf (example:
Queue(dave|t|||45)).

You can then set up a number of queues and simply have your dialplan call
each queue in succession.

example: 
 exten => 1589,1,Answer
 exten => 1589,2,Ringing
 exten => 1589,3,Wait(2)
 exten => 1589,4,Queue(testq|t|||45)
 exten => 1589,5,Queue(testq2|t|||45)
 exten => 1589,6,Hangup
  
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Re: [asterisk-users] Count Available Queue members

2009-07-18 Thread Alex Balashov
Gabriel Ortiz Lour wrote:

>   Someone know how can I check for available members on a queue Before I 
> queue the call, so I can do something else with it? Note that is not the 
> case for joinempty

It's going to take some sort of hack, since there appears to be no 
dialplan app to do this succinctly.

One option is to call an AGI script that in turn runs:

asterisk -rx 'queue show your-queue-name' |
egrep 'SIP\/.+ \(Not in use\)' | wc -l

It can set a channel variable and you can then evaluate its value in the 
dial plan with GotoIf().

Another, more sophisticated option is to have a piece of middleware that 
keeps track of when agents are connected to a caller via listening to 
the Asterisk manager interface, or by reading the queue log.  It can 
then be queried via FastAGI.

Really, there should be a dialplan app for this.  Feature request?

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Re: [asterisk-users] Count Available Queue members

2009-07-18 Thread Steve Edwards
> Gabriel Ortiz Lour wrote:

>>   Someone know how can I check for available members on a queue Before 
>> I queue the call, so I can do something else with it? Note that is not 
>> the case for joinempty

On Sat, 18 Jul 2009, Alex Balashov wrote:

> It's going to take some sort of hack, since there appears to be no 
> dialplan app to do this succinctly.
>
> One option is to call an AGI script that in turn runs:
>
>asterisk -rx 'queue show your-queue-name' |
>egrep 'SIP\/.+ \(Not in use\)' | wc -l
>

You could reduce the number of process creations from 4 (AGI, asterisk 
-rx, egrep, wc) to 1 (AGI) by using AMI in the AGI.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Count Available Queue members

2009-07-18 Thread Steve Totaro
On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Steve Edwards
wrote:

> > Gabriel Ortiz Lour wrote:
>
> >>   Someone know how can I check for available members on a queue Before
> >> I queue the call, so I can do something else with it? Note that is not
> >> the case for joinempty
>
> On Sat, 18 Jul 2009, Alex Balashov wrote:
>
> > It's going to take some sort of hack, since there appears to be no
> > dialplan app to do this succinctly.
> >
> > One option is to call an AGI script that in turn runs:
> >
> >asterisk -rx 'queue show your-queue-name' |
> >egrep 'SIP\/.+ \(Not in use\)' | wc -l
> >
>
> You could reduce the number of process creations from 4 (AGI, asterisk
> -rx, egrep, wc) to 1 (AGI) by using AMI in the AGI.
>
> --
> Thanks in advance,
> -
> Steve Edwards   sedwa...@sedwards.com  Voice: +1-760-468-3867 PST
> Newline  Fax: +1-760-731-3000
>
>
*QueueMemberStatus*
(may generate a WHOLE LOT of extra manager events)

Scary!

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Re: [asterisk-users] Count Available Queue members

2009-07-18 Thread Tilghman Lesher
On Saturday 18 July 2009 11:57:32 Steve Edwards wrote:
> > Gabriel Ortiz Lour wrote:
> >>   Someone know how can I check for available members on a queue Before
> >> I queue the call, so I can do something else with it? Note that is not
> >> the case for joinempty
>
> On Sat, 18 Jul 2009, Alex Balashov wrote:
> > It's going to take some sort of hack, since there appears to be no
> > dialplan app to do this succinctly.
> >
> > One option is to call an AGI script that in turn runs:
> >
> >asterisk -rx 'queue show your-queue-name' |
> >egrep 'SIP\/.+ \(Not in use\)' | wc -l
>
> You could reduce the number of process creations from 4 (AGI, asterisk
> -rx, egrep, wc) to 1 (AGI) by using AMI in the AGI.

Or he could just use the builtin dialplan function:
${QUEUE_MEMBER_COUNT(myqueue)}

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Re: [asterisk-users] Count Available Queue members

2009-07-18 Thread Steve Totaro
On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Tilghman Lesher <
tilgh...@mail.jeffandtilghman.com> wrote:

> On Saturday 18 July 2009 11:57:32 Steve Edwards wrote:
> > > Gabriel Ortiz Lour wrote:
> > >>   Someone know how can I check for available members on a queue Before
> > >> I queue the call, so I can do something else with it? Note that is not
> > >> the case for joinempty
> >
> > On Sat, 18 Jul 2009, Alex Balashov wrote:
> > > It's going to take some sort of hack, since there appears to be no
> > > dialplan app to do this succinctly.
> > >
> > > One option is to call an AGI script that in turn runs:
> > >
> > >asterisk -rx 'queue show your-queue-name' |
> > >egrep 'SIP\/.+ \(Not in use\)' | wc -l
> >
> > You could reduce the number of process creations from 4 (AGI, asterisk
> > -rx, egrep, wc) to 1 (AGI) by using AMI in the AGI.
>
> Or he could just use the builtin dialplan function:
> ${QUEUE_MEMBER_COUNT(myqueue)}
>
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> and Harry, BB, & George (dogs)
>

I don't think that answers OP's question.  "Someone know how can I check for
available members on a queue Before I queue the call, so I can do something
else with it? Note that is not the case for joinempty"

My understanding of QUEUE_MEMBER_COUNT just give a total of "agents" in the
queue.

Synopsis  Count number of members answering a queue

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Re: [asterisk-users] Count Available Queue members

2009-07-18 Thread Alex Balashov
Assuming that connecting to the socket and authenticating and getting  
the data is really less latent and resource-intensive.  But that's  
just splitting hairs.

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On Jul 18, 2009, at 12:57 PM, Steve Edwards  
 wrote:

>> Gabriel Ortiz Lour wrote:
>
>>>  Someone know how can I check for available members on a queue  
>>> Before
>>> I queue the call, so I can do something else with it? Note that is  
>>> not
>>> the case for joinempty
>
> On Sat, 18 Jul 2009, Alex Balashov wrote:
>
>> It's going to take some sort of hack, since there appears to be no
>> dialplan app to do this succinctly.
>>
>> One option is to call an AGI script that in turn runs:
>>
>>   asterisk -rx 'queue show your-queue-name' |
>>   egrep 'SIP\/.+ \(Not in use\)' | wc -l
>>
>
> You could reduce the number of process creations from 4 (AGI, asterisk
> -rx, egrep, wc) to 1 (AGI) by using AMI in the AGI.
>
> -- 
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> --- 
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Re: [asterisk-users] Count Available Queue members

2009-07-18 Thread Steve Totaro
Assuming he just wants people routed somewhere else if a queue if full, then
my original fast queue timeout answer is the simplest.  Just continue on in
the dialplan.

I hope OP posts again with his/her solution.

Thanks,
Steve T

On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Alex Balashov wrote:

> Assuming that connecting to the socket and authenticating and getting
> the data is really less latent and resource-intensive.  But that's
> just splitting hairs.
>
> --
> Sent from mobile device
>
> On Jul 18, 2009, at 12:57 PM, Steve Edwards
>  wrote:
>
> >> Gabriel Ortiz Lour wrote:
> >
> >>>  Someone know how can I check for available members on a queue
> >>> Before
> >>> I queue the call, so I can do something else with it? Note that is
> >>> not
> >>> the case for joinempty
> >
> > On Sat, 18 Jul 2009, Alex Balashov wrote:
> >
> >> It's going to take some sort of hack, since there appears to be no
> >> dialplan app to do this succinctly.
> >>
> >> One option is to call an AGI script that in turn runs:
> >>
> >>   asterisk -rx 'queue show your-queue-name' |
> >>   egrep 'SIP\/.+ \(Not in use\)' | wc -l
> >>
> >
> > You could reduce the number of process creations from 4 (AGI, asterisk
> > -rx, egrep, wc) to 1 (AGI) by using AMI in the AGI.
> >
> > --
> > Thanks in advance,
> > ---
> > --
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> > +1-760-468-3867 PST
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Re: [asterisk-users] Count Available Queue members

2009-07-18 Thread Tilghman Lesher
On Saturday 18 July 2009 13:09:27 Steve Totaro wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Tilghman Lesher wrote:
> > On Saturday 18 July 2009 11:57:32 Steve Edwards wrote:
> > > > Gabriel Ortiz Lour wrote:
> > > >>   Someone know how can I check for available members on a queue
> > > >> Before I queue the call, so I can do something else with it? Note
> > > >> that is not the case for joinempty
> > >
> > Or he could just use the builtin dialplan function:
> > ${QUEUE_MEMBER_COUNT(myqueue)}
>
> I don't think that answers OP's question.  "Someone know how can I check
> for available members on a queue Before I queue the call, so I can do
> something else with it? Note that is not the case for joinempty"
>
> My understanding of QUEUE_MEMBER_COUNT just give a total of "agents" in the
> queue.
>
> Synopsis  Count number of members answering a queue

It may or may not be the answer to the OP's question, depending upon what he
meant by "available".  Without clarification, it's impossible to know.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Count Available Queue members

2009-07-18 Thread Steve Totaro
On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 9:42 PM, Tilghman Lesher <
tilgh...@mail.jeffandtilghman.com> wrote:

> On Saturday 18 July 2009 13:09:27 Steve Totaro wrote:
> > On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Tilghman Lesher wrote:
> > > On Saturday 18 July 2009 11:57:32 Steve Edwards wrote:
> > > > > Gabriel Ortiz Lour wrote:
> > > > >>   Someone know how can I check for available members on a queue
> > > > >> Before I queue the call, so I can do something else with it? Note
> > > > >> that is not the case for joinempty
> > > >
> > > Or he could just use the builtin dialplan function:
> > > ${QUEUE_MEMBER_COUNT(myqueue)}
> >
> > I don't think that answers OP's question.  "Someone know how can I check
> > for available members on a queue Before I queue the call, so I can do
> > something else with it? Note that is not the case for joinempty"
> >
> > My understanding of QUEUE_MEMBER_COUNT just give a total of "agents" in
> the
> > queue.
> >
> > Synopsis  Count number of members answering a queue
>
> It may or may not be the answer to the OP's question, depending upon what
> he
> meant by "available".  Without clarification, it's impossible to know.
>
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>
OK, I can admit when I am wrong.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Count Available Queue members

2009-07-20 Thread Leif Madsen
Tilghman Lesher wrote:
>> My understanding of QUEUE_MEMBER_COUNT just give a total of "agents" in the
>> queue.
>>
>> Synopsis  Count number of members answering a queue
> 
> It may or may not be the answer to the OP's question, depending upon what he
> meant by "available".  Without clarification, it's impossible to know.

And along with this, even if it just returns the total number of queue members 
available, that could be useful if you're calling via something like a Local 
channel, where you could use the GROUP() and GROUP_COUNT() functions.

Place a GROUP() in the Local channel prior to calling the member, and then you 
can do:

exten => start,n,Set(MEMBERS_TO_TAKE_CALLS=$[${GROUP_COUNT(agents)} - 
${QUEUE_MEMBER_COUNT(queue)}])

Something like that anyways.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Count Available Queue members

2009-07-21 Thread Gabriel Ortiz Lour
Hi all,

  Thanks for all the advices given here, but I for what i've found is:

- cant be done with GROUP+GROUP_COUNT+QUEUE_MEMBER_COUNT because it wouldn't
know about the paused members.
- cant be done with the quick queue timeout: it works, but I dont want the
call to get counted for another queued call (maybe I could ignore this calls
later on a report, but i dont like this idea to leave to the report to do
it)

- the AGI calling either AMI or a shell script is the easiest solution, but
I wonder about the proc/resource consuming. (I've had problems using too
much of "asterisk -rx ..." on scripts, leaving 'zombie' asterisk -rx
processes lying around... And the AMI QueueStatus really gives lots of info)

Since the Asterisk I'm using already have a lot of patches for tiny features
that I needed I started to code a variant of the QUEUE_MEMBER_COUNT called
QUEUE_MEMBER_COUNT_AVAILABLE, so as soon as its finished I could post it
here

Thanks a LOT for the storm of ideas,
Gabriel Ortiz



2009/7/20 Leif Madsen 

> Tilghman Lesher wrote:
> >> My understanding of QUEUE_MEMBER_COUNT just give a total of "agents" in
> the
> >> queue.
> >>
> >> Synopsis  Count number of members answering a queue
> >
> > It may or may not be the answer to the OP's question, depending upon what
> he
> > meant by "available".  Without clarification, it's impossible to know.
>
> And along with this, even if it just returns the total number of queue
> members
> available, that could be useful if you're calling via something like a
> Local
> channel, where you could use the GROUP() and GROUP_COUNT() functions.
>
> Place a GROUP() in the Local channel prior to calling the member, and then
> you
> can do:
>
> exten => start,n,Set(MEMBERS_TO_TAKE_CALLS=$[${GROUP_COUNT(agents)} -
> ${QUEUE_MEMBER_COUNT(queue)}])
>
> Something like that anyways.
>
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Re: [asterisk-users] Count Available Queue members

2009-07-21 Thread Miguel Molina
Gabriel Ortiz Lour escribió:

Gabriel Ortiz Lour wrote:

> > >>   Someone know how can I check for available members on a queue Before
> > >> I queue the call, so I can do something else with it? Note that is not
> > >> the case for joinempty
>   
> - the AGI calling either AMI or a shell script is the easiest 
> solution, but I wonder about the proc/resource consuming. (I've had 
> problems using too much of "asterisk -rx ..." on scripts, leaving 
> 'zombie' asterisk -rx processes lying around... And the AMI 
> QueueStatus really gives lots of info)
If you choose an AMI solution, you could take a look to the QueueSummary 
action and QueueSummary events (1.6). That events give you the info you 
need without having to issue and parse the QueueStatus info. This events 
were extremely useful for me, so I decided to backport them from 1.6 to 
1.4. They work like a charm. If you want to give the patch a try, just 
let me know with the asterisk version you use.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Count Available Queue members

2009-07-21 Thread Gabriel Ortiz Lour
Miguel,

  That sound pretty good, sure I would like your patch.

  I'm using asterisk 1.4.19, but if your patch is for another version just
give me the closest you got that will be fine.

Thanks,
Gabriel

2009/7/21 Miguel Molina 

> Gabriel Ortiz Lour escribió:
>
> Gabriel Ortiz Lour wrote:
>
> > > >>   Someone know how can I check for available members on a queue
> Before
> > > >> I queue the call, so I can do something else with it? Note that is
> not
> > > >> the case for joinempty
> >
> > - the AGI calling either AMI or a shell script is the easiest
> > solution, but I wonder about the proc/resource consuming. (I've had
> > problems using too much of "asterisk -rx ..." on scripts, leaving
> > 'zombie' asterisk -rx processes lying around... And the AMI
> > QueueStatus really gives lots of info)
> If you choose an AMI solution, you could take a look to the QueueSummary
> action and QueueSummary events (1.6). That events give you the info you
> need without having to issue and parse the QueueStatus info. This events
> were extremely useful for me, so I decided to backport them from 1.6 to
> 1.4. They work like a charm. If you want to give the patch a try, just
> let me know with the asterisk version you use.
>
> --
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> Grupo de Tecnología
> Millenium Phone Center
>
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