Re: [asterisk-users] Faxing success rate on PRI
Thank you, Doug, for precious information. Best regards, Marco Signorini. === INGEGNI Tech S.r.l. http://www.ingegnitech.com Doug Lytle wrote: > > Main fax server: > > > Mandriva 2008.1 > Kernel 2.6.24.5 (Compiled for source) > (1) Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.80GHz > Digium TE110P (23 b channels 1 data) > > Asterisk 1.4.20.1 > HylaFAX+ 5.2.7 > iaxmodem 1.2.0 > SpanDSP 0.0.4 (The one that came with iaxmodem) > > Doug > > ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Faxing success rate on PRI
Marco Signorini wrote: > Thanks Doug and Lee, > your testimonials are changing my opinion :-) > > Can you provide some details about your setup? What PRI solution are you > using? And what version of Asterisk, IAXModem, SpanDSP? > > Main fax server: Mandriva 2008.1 Kernel 2.6.24.5 (Compiled for source) (1) Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.80GHz Digium TE110P (23 b channels 1 data) Asterisk 1.4.20.1 HylaFAX+ 5.2.7 iaxmodem 1.2.0 SpanDSP 0.0.4 (The one that came with iaxmodem) Doug -- Ben Franklin quote: "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Faxing success rate on PRI
Hi Steve, I was waiting for your answer :-P I started to use your SpanDSP library since some years ago but, unfortunately, my experience was only related to lab or personal use and/or systems with PSTN or BRI cards and low fax volume where it's impossible to have valid statistics. I read the link you provided me and now I'm confident that IAXModem running on the same asterisk box with a PRI board is something I can propose to my customer. There are some other variable I would like to evaluate, like, for example, what type of PRI connection people of this list are using in their fax servers. Thank you for writing SpanDSP and best regards, Marco Signorini === INGEGNI Tech S.r.l. http://www.ingegnitech.com Steve Underwood wrote: > Marco Signorini wrote: > >> Thank you to All People answered me on this subject. >> Analyzing your answers, seems that fax handling is still today >> problematic with IAXModem and Hylafax... or I'm wrong? >> What about other solutions? >> >> > I'm not sure where you got that idea. Most comments about iaxmodem + > HylaFAX are very positive. It does, of course, require a reliable > connection between iaxmodem and the PSTN, but most people set these > things up in a reasonably well controlled environment. There are some > notes at http://www.soft-switch.org/spandsp-soft-fax-performance.html > about the results of serious real world volume testing of iaxmodem. > > Regards, > Steve > > ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Faxing success rate on PRI
Thanks Doug and Lee, your testimonials are changing my opinion :-) Can you provide some details about your setup? What PRI solution are you using? And what version of Asterisk, IAXModem, SpanDSP? Thank you and best regards, Marco Signorini === INGEGNI Tech S.r.l. http://www.ingegnitech.com Lee Howard wrote: > Marco Signorini wrote: > >> Analyzing your answers, seems that fax handling is still today >> problematic with IAXModem and Hylafax... or I'm wrong? >> > > A single server that I administer, receiving 12,000 pages and sending > 1,000 pages daily would seem to contradict your conclusions. > > Thanks, > > Lee. > ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Faxing success rate on PRI
Marco Signorini wrote: > Hi Gordon, thank you for your answer. > > It's not mandatory to use an external box to handle the PRI. I was > thinking to use a Patton device instead of a TE120P just because I would > like to be able to switch to T38 in the near future or if working with > inband faxes will reveal problems. > I'm open to any suggestion, being in the initial requirements analysis > stage. > > External devices, also, let me able to select a server independently by > the PCI, PCIXpress or any other connectors will be ready in the future, > maximizing the customer investment... but this could be the less > interesting part. > > Thank you to All People answered me on this subject. > Analyzing your answers, seems that fax handling is still today > problematic with IAXModem and Hylafax... or I'm wrong? > What about other solutions? > I'm not sure where you got that idea. Most comments about iaxmodem + HylaFAX are very positive. It does, of course, require a reliable connection between iaxmodem and the PSTN, but most people set these things up in a reasonably well controlled environment. There are some notes at http://www.soft-switch.org/spandsp-soft-fax-performance.html about the results of serious real world volume testing of iaxmodem. Regards, Steve ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Faxing success rate on PRI
Marco Signorini wrote: > Analyzing your answers, seems that fax handling is still today > problematic with IAXModem and Hylafax... or I'm wrong? A single server that I administer, receiving 12,000 pages and sending 1,000 pages daily would seem to contradict your conclusions. Thanks, Lee. ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Faxing success rate on PRI
Marco Signorini wrote: > Analyzing your answers, seems that fax handling is still today > problematic with IAXModem and Hylafax... or I'm wrong? > I would strongly disagree with this statement. I'm running 3 systems. All 3 are PRI/iaxmodem/HylaFAX+. I may see a failure maybe once every other month. Usually it's because the end user has cancelled. We average around 180 faxes a day Doug -- Ben Franklin quote: "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Faxing success rate on PRI
Hi Gordon, thank you for your answer. It's not mandatory to use an external box to handle the PRI. I was thinking to use a Patton device instead of a TE120P just because I would like to be able to switch to T38 in the near future or if working with inband faxes will reveal problems. I'm open to any suggestion, being in the initial requirements analysis stage. External devices, also, let me able to select a server independently by the PCI, PCIXpress or any other connectors will be ready in the future, maximizing the customer investment... but this could be the less interesting part. Thank you to All People answered me on this subject. Analyzing your answers, seems that fax handling is still today problematic with IAXModem and Hylafax... or I'm wrong? What about other solutions? Thank you and best regards, Marco Signorini === INGEGNI Tech S.r.l. http://www.ingegnitech.com Gordon Henderson wrote: > On Sun, 8 Mar 2009, Marco wrote: > > >> Hi List, >> I've been using PSTN-ATA + Asterisk + IAXModem + Hylafax since three years >> on my lab test setup and I appreciate it. Moreover the global quantity of >> fax handled by this setup is not very high. >> >> I'll be involved in a more complex system for a customer and I would like >> to ask to All of you if you have experiences and/or statistical results on >> faxing success and failure rate. >> >> The system I have to deploy will operate in the following context: >> >> - It will be interfaced to an E1 PRI >> - It will be able to send and receive faxes (by e-mail and/or virtual >> printers) >> - It will be able to send faxes from a normal fax machine. >> >> The system will be placed on the same building, i.e. only private ethernet >> trunks. >> >> I'm thinking to this type of solution: >> - Patton external unit for E1 >> > > Out of curiosity, why an external box rather than something like a TE120P > PCI card? > > > >> - Asterisk 1.4 + IAXModem + Hylafax >> - An external ATA for the fax machine >> but I'm open to any other possible solution (I'm thinking to have a >> demodulation on Patton and talk T38 with Asterisk 1.6). >> > > Personally, I think you're adding complexity and can't see why that would > be better than an on-board PRI card... > > Gordon > ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Faxing success rate on PRI
2009/3/8 Marco > Hi List, > I've been using PSTN-ATA + Asterisk + IAXModem + Hylafax since three years > on my lab test setup and I appreciate it. Moreover the global quantity of > fax handled by this setup is not very high. > > I'll be involved in a more complex system for a customer and I would like > to ask to All of you if you have experiences and/or statistical results on > faxing success and failure rate. > > The system I have to deploy will operate in the following context: > > - It will be interfaced to an E1 PRI > - It will be able to send and receive faxes (by e-mail and/or virtual > printers) > - It will be able to send faxes from a normal fax machine. > > The system will be placed on the same building, i.e. only private ethernet > trunks. > > I'm thinking to this type of solution: > - Patton external unit for E1 > - Asterisk 1.4 + IAXModem + Hylafax > - An external ATA for the fax machine > but I'm open to any other possible solution (I'm thinking to have a > demodulation on Patton and talk T38 with Asterisk 1.6). > > The fax volume will be high because actually the customer has a ZFax > software system with 12 fax-modem installed (that will be replaced by the > system). > > I know that this was already asked in this list in the past, but I would > like to know if someone has experience on this and could share their > opinion, tricks and/or statistical results on failure/success rate when > faxing. I think that this could be useful to other people have to realize > a system like that one depicted. > > > Thank you in advance. > Marco Signorini > > === > INGEGNI Tech S.r.l. > http://www.ingegnitech.com > > I had a very good success rate with multitech modems connected to fxs card and calling out with T0 (bri) I had 3 modems in total, - 1 receiveing 2 sending, they were heavily loaded and i had very low failure rate 20 000 faxes and only 3 failed (!) from 3 only one due to incompatibility (brother model know issue) and 2 bad line. I dont inclide here wrong numbers. ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Faxing success rate on PRI
Faxing over IAX locally works fine. -- Sent from mobile device On Mar 8, 2009, at 8:46 AM, Doug Lytle wrote: > benoit wrote: >> Remco Barendse a écrit : >> >>> On Sun, 8 Mar 2009, benoit wrote: >>> >>> >>> Here is my current setup: E1 => [Asterisk with TE220p] => IAX Trunk (routed network) => [Asterisk with TDM800p] => Fax/Copy Machine >> > You'll find that faxing over IAX is problematic at best. > > If this is your only option, I'd suggest that you have HylaFAX+ > running > at both ends. Capture the faxes coming off of the E1 as PDF, do a > remote send to the other fax server and have the remote HylaFAX+ do > the > faxing to the fax/copy machine. > > Doug > > -- > Ben Franklin quote: > > "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little > Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." > > > ___ > -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- > > asterisk-users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Faxing success rate on PRI
When I said to stay away from VoIP I meant when it comes to faxing. On 3/8/09, C F wrote: > My recommendation would be to stay away from VoIP even T.38 whenever > possible. > That said yout best option is to use TDM, for that you can either use > 1 single span T/E1 from digium and an analog TDM card for FXS. > Or you could uee a dual span T/E1 card and a channel bank with FXS > ports. While the later is more expensive I prefer that, since it gives > lots more options in the long run. > > On 3/8/09, Marco wrote: >> Hi List, >> I've been using PSTN-ATA + Asterisk + IAXModem + Hylafax since three >> years >> on my lab test setup and I appreciate it. Moreover the global quantity of >> fax handled by this setup is not very high. >> >> I'll be involved in a more complex system for a customer and I would like >> to ask to All of you if you have experiences and/or statistical results >> on >> faxing success and failure rate. >> >> The system I have to deploy will operate in the following context: >> >> - It will be interfaced to an E1 PRI >> - It will be able to send and receive faxes (by e-mail and/or virtual >> printers) >> - It will be able to send faxes from a normal fax machine. >> >> The system will be placed on the same building, i.e. only private >> ethernet >> trunks. >> >> I'm thinking to this type of solution: >> - Patton external unit for E1 >> - Asterisk 1.4 + IAXModem + Hylafax >> - An external ATA for the fax machine >> but I'm open to any other possible solution (I'm thinking to have a >> demodulation on Patton and talk T38 with Asterisk 1.6). >> >> The fax volume will be high because actually the customer has a ZFax >> software system with 12 fax-modem installed (that will be replaced by the >> system). >> >> I know that this was already asked in this list in the past, but I would >> like to know if someone has experience on this and could share their >> opinion, tricks and/or statistical results on failure/success rate when >> faxing. I think that this could be useful to other people have to realize >> a system like that one depicted. >> >> >> Thank you in advance. >> Marco Signorini >> >> === >> INGEGNI Tech S.r.l. >> http://www.ingegnitech.com >> >> >> >> ___ >> -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- >> >> asterisk-users mailing list >> To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >>http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users >> > ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Faxing success rate on PRI
My recommendation would be to stay away from VoIP even T.38 whenever possible. That said yout best option is to use TDM, for that you can either use 1 single span T/E1 from digium and an analog TDM card for FXS. Or you could uee a dual span T/E1 card and a channel bank with FXS ports. While the later is more expensive I prefer that, since it gives lots more options in the long run. On 3/8/09, Marco wrote: > Hi List, > I've been using PSTN-ATA + Asterisk + IAXModem + Hylafax since three years > on my lab test setup and I appreciate it. Moreover the global quantity of > fax handled by this setup is not very high. > > I'll be involved in a more complex system for a customer and I would like > to ask to All of you if you have experiences and/or statistical results on > faxing success and failure rate. > > The system I have to deploy will operate in the following context: > > - It will be interfaced to an E1 PRI > - It will be able to send and receive faxes (by e-mail and/or virtual > printers) > - It will be able to send faxes from a normal fax machine. > > The system will be placed on the same building, i.e. only private ethernet > trunks. > > I'm thinking to this type of solution: > - Patton external unit for E1 > - Asterisk 1.4 + IAXModem + Hylafax > - An external ATA for the fax machine > but I'm open to any other possible solution (I'm thinking to have a > demodulation on Patton and talk T38 with Asterisk 1.6). > > The fax volume will be high because actually the customer has a ZFax > software system with 12 fax-modem installed (that will be replaced by the > system). > > I know that this was already asked in this list in the past, but I would > like to know if someone has experience on this and could share their > opinion, tricks and/or statistical results on failure/success rate when > faxing. I think that this could be useful to other people have to realize > a system like that one depicted. > > > Thank you in advance. > Marco Signorini > > === > INGEGNI Tech S.r.l. > http://www.ingegnitech.com > > > > ___ > -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- > > asterisk-users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Faxing success rate on PRI
Doug Lytle a écrit : > benoit wrote: > >> Remco Barendse a écrit : >> >> >>> On Sun, 8 Mar 2009, benoit wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Here is my current setup: E1 => [Asterisk with TE220p] => IAX Trunk (routed network) => [Asterisk with TDM800p] => Fax/Copy Machine >> >> > You'll find that faxing over IAX is problematic at best. > > If this is your only option, I'd suggest that you have HylaFAX+ running > at both ends. Capture the faxes coming off of the E1 as PDF, do a > remote send to the other fax server and have the remote HylaFAX+ do the > faxing to the fax/copy machine. > > Doug > Well, as i said before this setup works quite fine now. What doesn't was when using hylafax over IAXmodem on two separate servers. And hardware faxes make a much better job at handling faulty communication than hylafax ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Faxing success rate on PRI
benoit wrote: > Remco Barendse a écrit : > >> On Sun, 8 Mar 2009, benoit wrote: >> >> >> >>> Here is my current setup: >>> >>>E1 => [Asterisk with TE220p] => IAX Trunk (routed network) => >>> [Asterisk with TDM800p] => Fax/Copy Machine >>> > You'll find that faxing over IAX is problematic at best. If this is your only option, I'd suggest that you have HylaFAX+ running at both ends. Capture the faxes coming off of the E1 as PDF, do a remote send to the other fax server and have the remote HylaFAX+ do the faxing to the fax/copy machine. Doug -- Ben Franklin quote: "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Faxing success rate on PRI
Remco Barendse a écrit : > On Sun, 8 Mar 2009, benoit wrote: > > >> Here is my current setup: >> >>E1 => [Asterisk with TE220p] => IAX Trunk (routed network) => >> [Asterisk with TDM800p] => Fax/Copy Machine >> > > The TE220P and the TDM800P are in different Asterisk boxes? Any particular > reason for that? > Well the Fax machine and the E1 input are wired in two differents locations, and at the time of the setup all links between the two servers rooms where used for networks and other stuff. Also the first asterisk already had a TE220 and a B410p and i feared adding one more card wouldn't be a great idea. > I now have an E1 coming in to the asterisk box and > IAXmodem and HylaFAX to receive faxes which works flawlessly. > > Outbound i still have an old faxserver connected to an old analogue line > though. > > My faxing needs require that i have a hardcopy printout of every fax that > is sent like a reduced size of the fax sent on one A4 together with all > status info (Fax number it was sent to, status, duration, ID of the > receiver, date, time etc.). So far i couldn't find any solution that does > that. > Couldn't you hack a faxsend script for hylafax to do this ? my first setup involved sending all fax by mail to some people in pdf form but to speed up filtering spam & all, i also sent the first page of the inbound fax in a jpg image so it appear directly in the e-mail ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Faxing success rate on PRI
On Sun, 8 Mar 2009, benoit wrote: > > Here is my current setup: > >E1 => [Asterisk with TE220p] => IAX Trunk (routed network) => > [Asterisk with TDM800p] => Fax/Copy Machine The TE220P and the TDM800P are in different Asterisk boxes? Any particular reason for that? I now have an E1 coming in to the asterisk box and IAXmodem and HylaFAX to receive faxes which works flawlessly. Outbound i still have an old faxserver connected to an old analogue line though. My faxing needs require that i have a hardcopy printout of every fax that is sent like a reduced size of the fax sent on one A4 together with all status info (Fax number it was sent to, status, duration, ID of the receiver, date, time etc.). So far i couldn't find any solution that does that. ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Faxing success rate on PRI
On Sun, 8 Mar 2009, Marco wrote: > Hi List, > I've been using PSTN-ATA + Asterisk + IAXModem + Hylafax since three years > on my lab test setup and I appreciate it. Moreover the global quantity of > fax handled by this setup is not very high. > > I'll be involved in a more complex system for a customer and I would like > to ask to All of you if you have experiences and/or statistical results on > faxing success and failure rate. > > The system I have to deploy will operate in the following context: > > - It will be interfaced to an E1 PRI > - It will be able to send and receive faxes (by e-mail and/or virtual > printers) > - It will be able to send faxes from a normal fax machine. > > The system will be placed on the same building, i.e. only private ethernet > trunks. > > I'm thinking to this type of solution: > - Patton external unit for E1 Out of curiosity, why an external box rather than something like a TE120P PCI card? > - Asterisk 1.4 + IAXModem + Hylafax > - An external ATA for the fax machine > but I'm open to any other possible solution (I'm thinking to have a > demodulation on Patton and talk T38 with Asterisk 1.6). Personally, I think you're adding complexity and can't see why that would be better than an on-board PRI card... Gordon ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Faxing success rate on PRI
Here is my current setup: E1 => [Asterisk with TE220p] => IAX Trunk (routed network) => [Asterisk with TDM800p] => Fax/Copy Machine This seems to work fine, a few failed Fax or very slow sending/process sometimes but no complaining users, so this must be ok :) My previous try was: E1 => [Asterisk with TE220p] => IAX peer (same network) => HylaFax machine with IAXmodem While the users did like the facility of receiving PDF documents, we had many calls for people unable to send Fax to us, so i kinda ditched to solution. I've updated the setup to use IAXmodem/Hylafax on the first asterisk machine but until now i haven't tested it. Marco a écrit : > Hi List, > I've been using PSTN-ATA + Asterisk + IAXModem + Hylafax since three years > on my lab test setup and I appreciate it. Moreover the global quantity of > fax handled by this setup is not very high. > > I'll be involved in a more complex system for a customer and I would like > to ask to All of you if you have experiences and/or statistical results on > faxing success and failure rate. > > The system I have to deploy will operate in the following context: > > - It will be interfaced to an E1 PRI > - It will be able to send and receive faxes (by e-mail and/or virtual > printers) > - It will be able to send faxes from a normal fax machine. > > The system will be placed on the same building, i.e. only private ethernet > trunks. > > I'm thinking to this type of solution: > - Patton external unit for E1 > - Asterisk 1.4 + IAXModem + Hylafax > - An external ATA for the fax machine > but I'm open to any other possible solution (I'm thinking to have a > demodulation on Patton and talk T38 with Asterisk 1.6). > > The fax volume will be high because actually the customer has a ZFax > software system with 12 fax-modem installed (that will be replaced by the > system). > > I know that this was already asked in this list in the past, but I would > like to know if someone has experience on this and could share their > opinion, tricks and/or statistical results on failure/success rate when > faxing. I think that this could be useful to other people have to realize > a system like that one depicted. > > > Thank you in advance. > Marco Signorini > > === > INGEGNI Tech S.r.l. > http://www.ingegnitech.com > > > > ___ > -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- > > asterisk-users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
