Re: [asterisk-users] Follow-me to my answering machine :-(

2010-04-30 Thread Barry L. Kline
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Bryan Jacobs wrote:

 I wonder if all the cell providers let you do this?

I presume you mean turn off voice mail.  I don't know, but the first
time I called Verizon to have it done the gal I spoke with said it
couldn't be done.  So I said thanks, called in again, got another rep
and he said no problem.  In less than five minutes I was good to go.

Barry



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Re: [asterisk-users] Follow-me to my answering machine :-(

2010-04-30 Thread Vince Vielhaber
On Fri, 30 Apr 2010, Barry L. Kline wrote:

 Bryan Jacobs wrote:

 I wonder if all the cell providers let you do this?

 I presume you mean turn off voice mail.  I don't know, but the first
 time I called Verizon to have it done the gal I spoke with said it
 couldn't be done.  So I said thanks, called in again, got another rep
 and he said no problem.  In less than five minutes I was good to go.

I have a t-mobile sidekick.  I just found the menu where I set the
voicemail phone number and changed it to my * box.  I could've left
it blank for no transfer at all.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Follow-me to my answering machine :-(

2010-04-29 Thread Barry L. Kline
Bryan Jacobs wrote:

 I can't just call the car - the car is my cell phone DID with a
 bluetooth kit.

I did this same thing you're attempting.  I have a desk set at home, a
Polycom in my office and my cell phone all being called at the same
time.  I called Verizon and had them disable voice mail on my cell phone
so that the only voice mail system I use is my Asterisk box.  I no
longer give out my cell phone number but only my home phone number and
allow Asterisk to do all of the heavy lifting.

Oh, and I set the caller*ID outbound to the caller*ID of the inbound
call so I can still see who it is.

Barry

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Re: [asterisk-users] Follow-me to my answering machine :-(

2010-04-29 Thread Bryan Jacobs
On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 18:03:26 -0400
Barry L. Kline blkl...@attglobal.net wrote:

 Bryan Jacobs wrote:
 
  I can't just call the car - the car is my cell phone DID with a
  bluetooth kit.
 
 I did this same thing you're attempting.  I have a desk set at home, a
 Polycom in my office and my cell phone all being called at the same
 time.  I called Verizon and had them disable voice mail on my cell
 phone so that the only voice mail system I use is my Asterisk box.  I
 no longer give out my cell phone number but only my home phone number
 and allow Asterisk to do all of the heavy lifting.

That's a great idea.  I think I'd port my cell phone number to the
Asterisk box and get a new cell number assigned which nobody knows.
This is the best solution I've heard so far - no hacks at all!  I
wonder if all the cell providers let you do this?
 
 Oh, and I set the caller*ID outbound to the caller*ID of the inbound
 call so I can still see who it is.

I already did this with the 'o' dial option.

 Barry
 

Bryan Jacobs


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Re: [asterisk-users] Follow-me to my answering machine :-(

2010-04-28 Thread Matt Riddell
On 23/04/10 10:31 AM, Bryan Jacobs wrote:
 Don,

 No, I'm not trying to say there's a problem with generating the tones.
 The issue is that my phone is still holstered, connected to the car via
 Bluetooth.  I have steering-wheel buttons for receiving calls and
 hanging up, but I don't have a safe way to press buttons.

Why not just use followme for everything but the car, and if that fails, 
send the call to the car normally?

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Re: [asterisk-users] Follow-me to my answering machine :-(

2010-04-28 Thread Bryan Jacobs
Matt,

What I think you're suggesting is:

1. followme(SIP phones, etc) - WAIT X SECONDS
2. if (!answered) { call(Cellphone) }

This is fine, except that it imposes a delay on connecting my call.  If
I were to do steps 12 simultaneously, then my cell phone being off
would stop the phones in step #1 from working.

I can't just call the car - the car is my cell phone DID with a
bluetooth kit.

Bryan Jacobs

On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 13:29:32 +1200
Matt Riddell li...@venturevoip.com wrote:

 On 23/04/10 10:31 AM, Bryan Jacobs wrote:
  Don,
 
  No, I'm not trying to say there's a problem with generating the
  tones. The issue is that my phone is still holstered, connected to
  the car via Bluetooth.  I have steering-wheel buttons for receiving
  calls and hanging up, but I don't have a safe way to press buttons.
 
 Why not just use followme for everything but the car, and if that
 fails, send the call to the car normally?
 


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Re: [asterisk-users] Follow-me to my answering machine :-(

2010-04-28 Thread Matt Riddell
On 29/04/10 2:00 PM, Bryan Jacobs wrote:
 This is fine, except that it imposes a delay on connecting my call.  If
 I were to do steps 12 simultaneously, then my cell phone being off
 would stop the phones in step #1 from working.

If you play a message telling someone that you are being located, surely 
they'd prefer this delay than to not get hold of you?

If you can't dial DTMF in your car, then there's really no other option 
- unless of course you can hum two tones at the same time :)

I'd just call the sip phones etc, then play a message saying Please 
hold while you are transferred to my cell number.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Follow-me to my answering machine :-(

2010-04-22 Thread Motiejus Jakštys
Hi,
currently I am writing a sound recognition software that will suit
here pretty well - it can recognize your cell phone's our of radio
coverage or similar operator message. It's GPL, link here:
http://github.com/Motiejus/SoundPatty

Now the program can say if 2 WAV files match (tested with out of radio
coverage status and GSM network - it works), and right now I am
working with it's support with asterisk (through JACK_HOOK). It
shouldn't take more than a week, I hope.

I will announce to this conference when it's ready :)

Regards
Motiejus

On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 8:31 PM, Bryan Jacobs n...@landwarsin.asia wrote:
 Hello asterisk users!

 I, like many people, have a cell phone.  I also have some SIP phone
 devices (software and hardware).  I'd like to have one number that
 rings all my phones and routes the call to wherever I pick up.

 However, my cell phone has its own call forwarding voicemail.  I can't
 just turn that off, because then direct-to-cell calls wouldn't ever get
 to voicemail - that would be bad (TM).

 app_followme sounds like a solution.  BUT, I also have a car.  And I
 cannot use DTMF to respond to the app_followme prompts (which I WANT,
 to avoid routing the forwarded call to voicemail when the cell phone is
 off and its voicemail picks up), while driving.

 I've tried using dial macros and AMD(), but this is complex,
 very unreliable, and delays the connection of the call significantly.

 Is there some way to make app_followme use voice recognition?  Or some
 other solution so that I can get all my phones to ring with one number,
 even when my cell phone is off or out of range?

 Bryan Jacobs

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Re: [asterisk-users] Follow-me to my answering machine :-(

2010-04-22 Thread Ryan Bullock
Check out the 'p' option for the Dial command.

http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+cmd+Dial

It enables call screening, so you have to press 1 to answer. This can also
prevent the voice mail from being left on your cell phone.
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Re: [asterisk-users] Follow-me to my answering machine :-(

2010-04-22 Thread Bryan Jacobs
Ryan,

Thanks, but as I said, part of the problem is that I can't use DTMF in
my car.  So having to 'press 1' is unacceptable.

Bryan Jacobs

On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 15:54:47 -0400
Ryan Bullock rrb3...@gmail.com wrote:

 Check out the 'p' option for the Dial command.
 
 http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+cmd+Dial
 
 It enables call screening, so you have to press 1 to answer. This can
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Re: [asterisk-users] Follow-me to my answering machine :-(

2010-04-22 Thread Bryan Jacobs
Motiejus,

I'm not sure my cell phone plays these - the behavior I observe is that
the call is forwarded to an external number I can control if:
a) The cell phone is out of the service area or off
or
b) I'm busy or reject the call

Currently, I have this number set to my Asterisk direct-to-voicemail
DID.

Again, I *want* to leave these forwarding settings in place because
they mean that calls to my cell phone DID can go to my Asterisk
voicemail. Which is good.

Is there some tone played before the call is forwarded?  I hadn't
noticed one.

Bryan Jacobs

On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 21:00:31 +0300
Motiejus Jakštys desired@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 currently I am writing a sound recognition software that will suit
 here pretty well - it can recognize your cell phone's our of radio
 coverage or similar operator message. It's GPL, link here:
 http://github.com/Motiejus/SoundPatty
 
 Now the program can say if 2 WAV files match (tested with out of radio
 coverage status and GSM network - it works), and right now I am
 working with it's support with asterisk (through JACK_HOOK). It
 shouldn't take more than a week, I hope.
 
 I will announce to this conference when it's ready :)
 
 Regards
 Motiejus
 
 On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 8:31 PM, Bryan Jacobs n...@landwarsin.asia
 wrote:
  Hello asterisk users!
 
  I, like many people, have a cell phone.  I also have some SIP phone
  devices (software and hardware).  I'd like to have one number that
  rings all my phones and routes the call to wherever I pick up.
 
  However, my cell phone has its own call forwarding voicemail.  I
  can't just turn that off, because then direct-to-cell calls
  wouldn't ever get to voicemail - that would be bad (TM).
 
  app_followme sounds like a solution.  BUT, I also have a car.  And I
  cannot use DTMF to respond to the app_followme prompts (which I
  WANT, to avoid routing the forwarded call to voicemail when the
  cell phone is off and its voicemail picks up), while driving.
 
  I've tried using dial macros and AMD(), but this is complex,
  very unreliable, and delays the connection of the call
  significantly.
 
  Is there some way to make app_followme use voice recognition?  Or
  some other solution so that I can get all my phones to ring with
  one number, even when my cell phone is off or out of range?
 
  Bryan Jacobs
 
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Re: [asterisk-users] Follow-me to my answering machine :-(

2010-04-22 Thread Danny Nicholas
You could use the non-followme option from this link
http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+cmd+FollowMe

and use Lumenvox or Vestec ($50 or $25 for a 1 port license) to be able to
verbally do the 1/yes/2/no thing.

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From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Jacobs
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 4:37 PM
To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Follow-me to my answering machine :-(

Motiejus,

I'm not sure my cell phone plays these - the behavior I observe is that
the call is forwarded to an external number I can control if:
a) The cell phone is out of the service area or off
or
b) I'm busy or reject the call

Currently, I have this number set to my Asterisk direct-to-voicemail
DID.

Again, I *want* to leave these forwarding settings in place because
they mean that calls to my cell phone DID can go to my Asterisk
voicemail. Which is good.

Is there some tone played before the call is forwarded?  I hadn't
noticed one.

Bryan Jacobs

On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 21:00:31 +0300
Motiejus Jakštys desired@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 currently I am writing a sound recognition software that will suit
 here pretty well - it can recognize your cell phone's our of radio
 coverage or similar operator message. It's GPL, link here:
 http://github.com/Motiejus/SoundPatty
 
 Now the program can say if 2 WAV files match (tested with out of radio
 coverage status and GSM network - it works), and right now I am
 working with it's support with asterisk (through JACK_HOOK). It
 shouldn't take more than a week, I hope.
 
 I will announce to this conference when it's ready :)
 
 Regards
 Motiejus
 
 On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 8:31 PM, Bryan Jacobs n...@landwarsin.asia
 wrote:
  Hello asterisk users!
 
  I, like many people, have a cell phone.  I also have some SIP phone
  devices (software and hardware).  I'd like to have one number that
  rings all my phones and routes the call to wherever I pick up.
 
  However, my cell phone has its own call forwarding voicemail.  I
  can't just turn that off, because then direct-to-cell calls
  wouldn't ever get to voicemail - that would be bad (TM).
 
  app_followme sounds like a solution.  BUT, I also have a car.  And I
  cannot use DTMF to respond to the app_followme prompts (which I
  WANT, to avoid routing the forwarded call to voicemail when the
  cell phone is off and its voicemail picks up), while driving.
 
  I've tried using dial macros and AMD(), but this is complex,
  very unreliable, and delays the connection of the call
  significantly.
 
  Is there some way to make app_followme use voice recognition?  Or
  some other solution so that I can get all my phones to ring with
  one number, even when my cell phone is off or out of range?
 
  Bryan Jacobs
 
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Re: [asterisk-users] Follow-me to my answering machine :-(

2010-04-22 Thread Bryan Jacobs
Danny,

That sounds like a decent idea.  The dial screening macros are not well
documented and difficult to get right (for example: if one channel
returns BUSY and another returns CONTINUE, what happens?).

I feel that this should be an option built into app_followme - if there
were a confirmation={none,dtmf,voice} option for each leg, this would
be much easier to implement cleanly.

Bryan Jacobs

On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 16:42:24 -0500
Danny Nicholas da...@debsinc.com wrote:

 You could use the non-followme option from this link
 http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+cmd+FollowMe
 
 and use Lumenvox or Vestec ($50 or $25 for a 1 port license) to be
 able to verbally do the 1/yes/2/no thing.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com
 [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Bryan
 Jacobs Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 4:37 PM
 To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
 Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Follow-me to my answering machine :-(
 
 Motiejus,
 
 I'm not sure my cell phone plays these - the behavior I observe is
 that the call is forwarded to an external number I can control if:
 a) The cell phone is out of the service area or off
 or
 b) I'm busy or reject the call
 
 Currently, I have this number set to my Asterisk direct-to-voicemail
 DID.
 
 Again, I *want* to leave these forwarding settings in place because
 they mean that calls to my cell phone DID can go to my Asterisk
 voicemail. Which is good.
 
 Is there some tone played before the call is forwarded?  I hadn't
 noticed one.
 
 Bryan Jacobs
 
 On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 21:00:31 +0300
 Motiejus Jakštys desired@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Hi,
  currently I am writing a sound recognition software that will suit
  here pretty well - it can recognize your cell phone's our of radio
  coverage or similar operator message. It's GPL, link here:
  http://github.com/Motiejus/SoundPatty
  
  Now the program can say if 2 WAV files match (tested with out of
  radio coverage status and GSM network - it works), and right now I
  am working with it's support with asterisk (through JACK_HOOK). It
  shouldn't take more than a week, I hope.
  
  I will announce to this conference when it's ready :)
  
  Regards
  Motiejus
  
  On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 8:31 PM, Bryan Jacobs n...@landwarsin.asia
  wrote:
   Hello asterisk users!
  
   I, like many people, have a cell phone.  I also have some SIP
   phone devices (software and hardware).  I'd like to have one
   number that rings all my phones and routes the call to wherever I
   pick up.
  
   However, my cell phone has its own call forwarding voicemail.  I
   can't just turn that off, because then direct-to-cell calls
   wouldn't ever get to voicemail - that would be bad (TM).
  
   app_followme sounds like a solution.  BUT, I also have a car.
    And I cannot use DTMF to respond to the app_followme prompts
   (which I WANT, to avoid routing the forwarded call to voicemail
   when the cell phone is off and its voicemail picks up), while
   driving.
  
   I've tried using dial macros and AMD(), but this is complex,
   very unreliable, and delays the connection of the call
   significantly.
  
   Is there some way to make app_followme use voice recognition?  Or
   some other solution so that I can get all my phones to ring with
   one number, even when my cell phone is off or out of range?
  
   Bryan Jacobs
  
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Re: [asterisk-users] Follow-me to my answering machine :-(

2010-04-22 Thread Danny Nicholas
Maybe I'll get brave and try this as a patch :)


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[mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Jacobs
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 4:57 PM
To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
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Danny,

That sounds like a decent idea.  The dial screening macros are not well
documented and difficult to get right (for example: if one channel
returns BUSY and another returns CONTINUE, what happens?).

I feel that this should be an option built into app_followme - if there
were a confirmation={none,dtmf,voice} option for each leg, this would
be much easier to implement cleanly.

Bryan Jacobs

On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 16:42:24 -0500
Danny Nicholas da...@debsinc.com wrote:

 You could use the non-followme option from this link
 http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+cmd+FollowMe
 
 and use Lumenvox or Vestec ($50 or $25 for a 1 port license) to be
 able to verbally do the 1/yes/2/no thing.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com
 [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Bryan
 Jacobs Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 4:37 PM
 To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
 Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Follow-me to my answering machine :-(
 
 Motiejus,
 
 I'm not sure my cell phone plays these - the behavior I observe is
 that the call is forwarded to an external number I can control if:
 a) The cell phone is out of the service area or off
 or
 b) I'm busy or reject the call
 
 Currently, I have this number set to my Asterisk direct-to-voicemail
 DID.
 
 Again, I *want* to leave these forwarding settings in place because
 they mean that calls to my cell phone DID can go to my Asterisk
 voicemail. Which is good.
 
 Is there some tone played before the call is forwarded?  I hadn't
 noticed one.
 
 Bryan Jacobs
 
 On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 21:00:31 +0300
 Motiejus Jakštys desired@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Hi,
  currently I am writing a sound recognition software that will suit
  here pretty well - it can recognize your cell phone's our of radio
  coverage or similar operator message. It's GPL, link here:
  http://github.com/Motiejus/SoundPatty
  
  Now the program can say if 2 WAV files match (tested with out of
  radio coverage status and GSM network - it works), and right now I
  am working with it's support with asterisk (through JACK_HOOK). It
  shouldn't take more than a week, I hope.
  
  I will announce to this conference when it's ready :)
  
  Regards
  Motiejus
  
  On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 8:31 PM, Bryan Jacobs n...@landwarsin.asia
  wrote:
   Hello asterisk users!
  
   I, like many people, have a cell phone.  I also have some SIP
   phone devices (software and hardware).  I'd like to have one
   number that rings all my phones and routes the call to wherever I
   pick up.
  
   However, my cell phone has its own call forwarding voicemail.  I
   can't just turn that off, because then direct-to-cell calls
   wouldn't ever get to voicemail - that would be bad (TM).
  
   app_followme sounds like a solution.  BUT, I also have a car.
    And I cannot use DTMF to respond to the app_followme prompts
   (which I WANT, to avoid routing the forwarded call to voicemail
   when the cell phone is off and its voicemail picks up), while
   driving.
  
   I've tried using dial macros and AMD(), but this is complex,
   very unreliable, and delays the connection of the call
   significantly.
  
   Is there some way to make app_followme use voice recognition?  Or
   some other solution so that I can get all my phones to ring with
   one number, even when my cell phone is off or out of range?
  
   Bryan Jacobs
  
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Re: [asterisk-users] Follow-me to my answering machine :-(

2010-04-22 Thread Don Kelly
If you're saying the equipment in your car won't generate DTMF tones, a
quick-and-dirty solution would be to use a pocket DTMF dialer.

--Don



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Ryan,

Thanks, but as I said, part of the problem is that I can't use DTMF in
my car.  So having to 'press 1' is unacceptable.

Bryan Jacobs

On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 15:54:47 -0400
Ryan Bullock rrb3...@gmail.com wrote:

 Check out the 'p' option for the Dial command.
 
 http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+cmd+Dial
 
 It enables call screening, so you have to press 1 to answer. This can
 also prevent the voice mail from being left on your cell phone.


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Re: [asterisk-users] Follow-me to my answering machine :-(

2010-04-22 Thread Ryan Bullock
Ah, sorry, I totally missed that in your description.

Other than the speech recognition that Danny is suggesting, my only thought
is to use an agi that will originate another leg, run AMD (answering machine
detect) and then dump the two parties into a conference to re-join them(or
use the Bridge command in newer version).
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Re: [asterisk-users] Follow-me to my answering machine :-(

2010-04-22 Thread Bryan Jacobs
Don,

No, I'm not trying to say there's a problem with generating the tones.
The issue is that my phone is still holstered, connected to the car via
Bluetooth.  I have steering-wheel buttons for receiving calls and
hanging up, but I don't have a safe way to press buttons.

Bryan Jacobs

On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 17:04:29 -0500
Don Kelly d...@donkelly.biz wrote:

 If you're saying the equipment in your car won't generate DTMF tones,
 a quick-and-dirty solution would be to use a pocket DTMF dialer.
 
 --Don
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com
 [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Bryan
 Jacobs Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 4:31 PM
 To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
 Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Follow-me to my answering machine :-(
 
 Ryan,
 
 Thanks, but as I said, part of the problem is that I can't use DTMF in
 my car.  So having to 'press 1' is unacceptable.
 
 Bryan Jacobs
 
 On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 15:54:47 -0400
 Ryan Bullock rrb3...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Check out the 'p' option for the Dial command.
  
  http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+cmd+Dial
  
  It enables call screening, so you have to press 1 to answer. This
  can also prevent the voice mail from being left on your cell phone.
 
 


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