Re: [asterisk-users] GSM SIM Cards and Digium, or GSM SIM Adaptor

2008-01-28 Thread Sam Tam
Try cyber-telecom.net
May be get a X100P with a CT-G1000 or G2000

Sam

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On Mon, 14 Jan 2008, Steve Totaro wrote:

 On Jan 14, 2008 8:43 AM, Gordon Henderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 On Mon, 14 Jan 2008, bilal ghayyad wrote:

 Hi List;

 Is there an Digium cards support GSM SIM cards so we
 can fix an SIM card to be used for calls within
 mobiles as it is less rate?

 Or I have to use an FXS to SIM adaptor? If yes, then
 anyone advise a models and prices?

 A few solutions - If you want to go down the analogue port route, then
 this:


http://www.discountphonesystems.co.uk/acatalog/Analogue_GSM_Gateway.html

 works well.

 If you want to stay in the SIP/digital domain, then there are these too:

   http://www.discountphonesystems.co.uk/acatalog/IP-GSM-Gateway.html

 There are PCI cards which take 1-4 SIM cards, but I've not heard much
 about them in the news recently, and last time I enquired, their price
was
 somewhat substantial... (However the lack of additional wiring, mains
 plugs, etc. required may well be an advantage in their favour)

 I'd presonally avoid any sort of bluetooth solution in anything
resembling
 a commercial environment. Give me a bit of wire, anyday!

 Cheers,

 Gordon

 http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users


 Gordon,

 I am not sure if it has been included in chan_mobile yet but I remember
talk
 about adding direct USB connectivity to the code.

 Anyways, GSM is wireless so I'd assume you would avoid this whole
scenario.

Actually - er - a-ha - indeed... However the GSM part if it all is sort of 
unavoidable !!! But I'd rather have a wire going from an asterisk box to a 
phone device than use an additional wireless connection... I'm not sure 
I'd get away with installing a box in a customers permises, then plug in a 
USB/Bluetooth dongle, and then just leave a mobile-phone cable-tied to the 
rack... At home/lab, sure. It's fun and neat, but not in the office where 
even a USB cable from the server to the phone might be frowned upon. (The 
phone would get nicked!)

Cheers,

Gordon

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Re: [asterisk-users] GSM SIM Cards and Digium, or GSM SIM Adaptor

2008-01-28 Thread Sam Tam
It is more economical to get a hardware GSM Gateway from places like
cyber-telecom.net and then plug it in a X100P

Sam 

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Subject: [asterisk-users] GSM SIM Cards and Digium, or GSM SIM Adaptor

Hi List;

Is there an Digium cards support GSM SIM cards so we
can fix an SIM card to be used for calls within
mobiles as it is less rate?

Or I have to use an FXS to SIM adaptor? If yes, then
anyone advise a models and prices?

Regards
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Re: [asterisk-users] GSM SIM Cards and Digium, or GSM SIM Adaptor

2008-01-14 Thread Chris Bagnall
 Or I have to use an FXS to SIM adaptor? If yes, then
 anyone advise a models and prices?

I'll leave others to suggest models and prices, but in my experience, you're 
better with a SIP-GSM gateway and cutting out the analogue loop altogether. 
They're a bit more expensive, but it'll save you many hours playing with echo 
cancellation and gain settings on the FXS module.

Regards,

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Re: [asterisk-users] GSM SIM Cards and Digium, or GSM SIM Adaptor

2008-01-14 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 08:20:11AM -0500, Steve Totaro wrote:

 Check chan_mobile for bluetooth enabled phones.  This is an extremely cool
 app.  The phone can be used as an FXO and/or an extension.  You can also use
 bluetooth headsets as FXSs.

AFAIR, the main limitation of it was that you could only use one device
per bluetooth adapter. Is this still the case?

But yes - cool indeed.

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Re: [asterisk-users] GSM SIM Cards and Digium, or GSM SIM Adaptor

2008-01-14 Thread Steve Totaro
On Jan 14, 2008 7:42 AM, bilal ghayyad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi List;

 Is there an Digium cards support GSM SIM cards so we
 can fix an SIM card to be used for calls within
 mobiles as it is less rate?

 Or I have to use an FXS to SIM adaptor? If yes, then
 anyone advise a models and prices?

 Regards
 Bilal


Check chan_mobile for bluetooth enabled phones.  This is an extremely cool
app.  The phone can be used as an FXO and/or an extension.  You can also use
bluetooth headsets as FXSs.

There are also GSM cards but I have no experience with them yet.  I would
like to test a quad port one sometime soon but in passive research, they
seem to be sold outside of the US.  Hopefully someone will post details on a
card sold in the US.

Thanks,
Steve Totaro
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Re: [asterisk-users] GSM SIM Cards and Digium, or GSM SIM Adaptor

2008-01-14 Thread Gordon Henderson
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008, bilal ghayyad wrote:

 Hi List;

 Is there an Digium cards support GSM SIM cards so we
 can fix an SIM card to be used for calls within
 mobiles as it is less rate?

 Or I have to use an FXS to SIM adaptor? If yes, then
 anyone advise a models and prices?

A few solutions - If you want to go down the analogue port route, then 
this:

   http://www.discountphonesystems.co.uk/acatalog/Analogue_GSM_Gateway.html

works well.

If you want to stay in the SIP/digital domain, then there are these too:

   http://www.discountphonesystems.co.uk/acatalog/IP-GSM-Gateway.html

There are PCI cards which take 1-4 SIM cards, but I've not heard much 
about them in the news recently, and last time I enquired, their price was 
somewhat substantial... (However the lack of additional wiring, mains 
plugs, etc. required may well be an advantage in their favour)

I'd presonally avoid any sort of bluetooth solution in anything resembling 
a commercial environment. Give me a bit of wire, anyday!

Cheers,

Gordon

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Re: [asterisk-users] GSM SIM Cards and Digium, or GSM SIM Adaptor

2008-01-14 Thread Steve Kennedy
On Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 08:20:11AM -0500, Steve Totaro wrote:

On Jan 14, 2008 7:42 AM, bilal ghayyad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Is there an Digium cards support GSM SIM cards so we
  can fix an SIM card to be used for calls within
  mobiles as it is less rate?
  Or I have to use an FXS to SIM adaptor? If yes, then
  anyone advise a models and prices?

I don't think Digium do one, but Junghams (sp) do.

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Re: [asterisk-users] GSM SIM Cards and Digium, or GSM SIM Adaptor

2008-01-14 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 01:25:13PM -, Chris Bagnall wrote:
  Or I have to use an FXS to SIM adaptor? If yes, then
  anyone advise a models and prices?
 
 I'll leave others to suggest models and prices, but in my experience, 
 you're better with a SIP-GSM gateway and cutting out the analogue 
 loop altogether. They're a bit more expensive, but it'll save you 
 many hours playing with echo cancellation and gain settings on the 
 FXS module.

You don't have to have analogue loop. There are a number of GSM PCI
adapters, and all of them seem to have a separate signalling channel
between the GSM device and Asterisk.

For instance, the GSM support included in bristuff (used for the
Junghanns GSM adapter) sets each GSM port as an ISDN-like device with 
just one B channel but still with one D channel.

AFAIK, both the Bero.net and the VoiSmart GSM devices are likewise
digital.

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Re: [asterisk-users] GSM SIM Cards and Digium, or GSM SIM Adaptor

2008-01-14 Thread Steve Totaro
On Jan 14, 2008 8:28 AM, Tzafrir Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 08:20:11AM -0500, Steve Totaro wrote:

  Check chan_mobile for bluetooth enabled phones.  This is an extremely
 cool
  app.  The phone can be used as an FXO and/or an extension.  You can also
 use
  bluetooth headsets as FXSs.

 AFAIR, the main limitation of it was that you could only use one device
 per bluetooth adapter. Is this still the case?

 But yes - cool indeed.


I believe you are correct about the one device per bluetooth dongle.  I
wondered about multiple dongles since they are so cheap but never went so
far as to test it.  If memory serves me correctly, you can have 127 USB
devices (per controller I believe and they obviously must have enough power
to run the dongle).  What I am not sure about is the ability in chan_mobile
to have multiple dongles or how many bluetooth devices can operate due to RF
bandwidth in a small location.

Thanks,
Steve Totaro
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Re: [asterisk-users] GSM SIM Cards and Digium, or GSM SIM Adaptor

2008-01-14 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 01:43:54PM +, Gordon Henderson wrote:

 I'd presonally avoid any sort of bluetooth solution in anything resembling 
 a commercial environment. Give me a bit of wire, anyday!

You've asked for it:

  http://www.celliax.org/

P.S: you may have to solder the wire yourself :-p

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Re: [asterisk-users] GSM SIM Cards and Digium, or GSM SIM Adaptor

2008-01-14 Thread Steve Totaro
On Jan 14, 2008 8:43 AM, Gordon Henderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 On Mon, 14 Jan 2008, bilal ghayyad wrote:

  Hi List;
 
  Is there an Digium cards support GSM SIM cards so we
  can fix an SIM card to be used for calls within
  mobiles as it is less rate?
 
  Or I have to use an FXS to SIM adaptor? If yes, then
  anyone advise a models and prices?

 A few solutions - If you want to go down the analogue port route, then
 this:

   http://www.discountphonesystems.co.uk/acatalog/Analogue_GSM_Gateway.html

 works well.

 If you want to stay in the SIP/digital domain, then there are these too:

   http://www.discountphonesystems.co.uk/acatalog/IP-GSM-Gateway.html

 There are PCI cards which take 1-4 SIM cards, but I've not heard much
 about them in the news recently, and last time I enquired, their price was
 somewhat substantial... (However the lack of additional wiring, mains
 plugs, etc. required may well be an advantage in their favour)

 I'd presonally avoid any sort of bluetooth solution in anything resembling
 a commercial environment. Give me a bit of wire, anyday!

 Cheers,

 Gordon

 http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users


Gordon,

I am not sure if it has been included in chan_mobile yet but I remember talk
about adding direct USB connectivity to the code.

Anyways, GSM is wireless so I'd assume you would avoid this whole scenario.


Thanks,
Steve Totaro
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Re: [asterisk-users] GSM SIM Cards and Digium, or GSM SIM Adaptor

2008-01-14 Thread Gordon Henderson
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008, Steve Totaro wrote:

 On Jan 14, 2008 8:43 AM, Gordon Henderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 On Mon, 14 Jan 2008, bilal ghayyad wrote:

 Hi List;

 Is there an Digium cards support GSM SIM cards so we
 can fix an SIM card to be used for calls within
 mobiles as it is less rate?

 Or I have to use an FXS to SIM adaptor? If yes, then
 anyone advise a models and prices?

 A few solutions - If you want to go down the analogue port route, then
 this:

   http://www.discountphonesystems.co.uk/acatalog/Analogue_GSM_Gateway.html

 works well.

 If you want to stay in the SIP/digital domain, then there are these too:

   http://www.discountphonesystems.co.uk/acatalog/IP-GSM-Gateway.html

 There are PCI cards which take 1-4 SIM cards, but I've not heard much
 about them in the news recently, and last time I enquired, their price was
 somewhat substantial... (However the lack of additional wiring, mains
 plugs, etc. required may well be an advantage in their favour)

 I'd presonally avoid any sort of bluetooth solution in anything resembling
 a commercial environment. Give me a bit of wire, anyday!

 Cheers,

 Gordon

 http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users


 Gordon,

 I am not sure if it has been included in chan_mobile yet but I remember talk
 about adding direct USB connectivity to the code.

 Anyways, GSM is wireless so I'd assume you would avoid this whole scenario.

Actually - er - a-ha - indeed... However the GSM part if it all is sort of 
unavoidable !!! But I'd rather have a wire going from an asterisk box to a 
phone device than use an additional wireless connection... I'm not sure 
I'd get away with installing a box in a customers permises, then plug in a 
USB/Bluetooth dongle, and then just leave a mobile-phone cable-tied to the 
rack... At home/lab, sure. It's fun and neat, but not in the office where 
even a USB cable from the server to the phone might be frowned upon. (The 
phone would get nicked!)

Cheers,

Gordon

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Re: [asterisk-users] GSM SIM Cards and Digium, or GSM SIM Adaptor

2008-01-14 Thread Sam Tam
I think what you need is a GSM Gateway 
You can find a cheap one at cyber-telecom.net
The model you should be looking for is CT-G1000 or 2000

Plug the SIM in there and it will give you a RJ11 telephone port where you
plug into something like X100P then you are ok to go..
Sam 

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Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 8:43 PM
To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
Subject: [asterisk-users] GSM SIM Cards and Digium, or GSM SIM Adaptor

Hi List;

Is there an Digium cards support GSM SIM cards so we
can fix an SIM card to be used for calls within
mobiles as it is less rate?

Or I have to use an FXS to SIM adaptor? If yes, then
anyone advise a models and prices?

Regards
Bilal


 


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