Re: [asterisk-users] High verbose set at console effects the logger file "Full" - Why is that?

2011-12-30 Thread Jim Dickenson
If you want to stop stuff from going to the console you can use the command 
"logger mute" and console will not get output but log file will.
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On Dec 30, 2011, at 3:11 PM, Bruce B wrote:

> Hi everyone,
> 
> I am playing around with Asterisk 1.8.8.0 from Digium repository. This is all 
> there is to my logger.conf file:
> 
> [general]
> dateformat=%F %T
> 
> [logfiles]
> full => notice,warning,error,debug,verbose,dtmf,fax
> 
> However, when I do, "core set verbose 0" at CLI, Asterisk ceases to write to 
> /var/log/asterisk/full file for some reason. When I type "core set verbose 9" 
> at CLI then it starts writing to /var/log/asterisk/full. Is this the correct 
> behaviour or am I missing a config setting?
> 
> Of course I want the /var/log/asterisk/full file to always keep the logs 
> regardless of what the verbosity at CLI level is. 
> 
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Re: [asterisk-users] High verbose set at console effects the logger file "Full" - Why is that?

2011-12-30 Thread Bruce B
Okay, but I thought that the line "console =>" is supposed to be for CLI
and the line "Full =>" is supposed to be for the file
/var/log/asterisk/full.

Why would the "Full =>" be effected by "core set verbose 0"? Is this just
bad assumption on the part of the developers? I would only assume that
"core set verbose 0" should only effect what I see at CLI level and not at
my my /var/log/asterisk/full log file.

Am I missing something?

Thanks for the feedback.

On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 6:19 PM, Jim Dickenson  wrote:

> If you want to stop stuff from going to the console you can use the
> command "logger mute" and console will not get output but log file will.
>  --
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>
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>
>
>
> On Dec 30, 2011, at 3:11 PM, Bruce B wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> I am playing around with Asterisk 1.8.8.0 from Digium repository. This is
> all there is to my logger.conf file:
>
> *[general]*
> *dateformat=%F %T*
> *
> *
> *[logfiles]*
> *full => notice,warning,error,debug,verbose,dtmf,fax*
> *
> *
> However, when I do, "core set verbose 0" at CLI, Asterisk ceases to write
> to /var/log/asterisk/full file for some reason. When I type "core set
> verbose 9" at CLI then it starts writing to /var/log/asterisk/full. Is this
> the correct behaviour or am I missing a config setting?
>
> Of course I want the /var/log/asterisk/full file to always keep the logs
> regardless of what the verbosity at CLI level is.
>
> Thanks
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Re: [asterisk-users] High verbose set at console effects the logger file "Full" - Why is that?

2011-12-30 Thread Jim Dickenson
Yes, you are missing the fact that the verbose setting controls what level of 
output will be generated in the first place. You can raise and lower the amount 
of stuff logged/printed on CLI.

The lines in logger.conf control what types of lines go to which place.

One can set the verbose level as well as the debug level. These control how 
much log information is generated at all not where it is being written.
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On Dec 30, 2011, at 3:24 PM, Bruce B wrote:

> Okay, but I thought that the line "console =>" is supposed to be for CLI and 
> the line "Full =>" is supposed to be for the file /var/log/asterisk/full.
> 
> Why would the "Full =>" be effected by "core set verbose 0"? Is this just bad 
> assumption on the part of the developers? I would only assume that "core set 
> verbose 0" should only effect what I see at CLI level and not at my my 
> /var/log/asterisk/full log file.
> 
> Am I missing something?
> 
> Thanks for the feedback.
> 
> On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 6:19 PM, Jim Dickenson  wrote:
> If you want to stop stuff from going to the console you can use the command 
> "logger mute" and console will not get output but log file will.
> -- 
> Jim Dickenson
> mailto:dicken...@cfmc.com
> 
> CfMC
> http://www.cfmc.com/
> 
> 
> 
> On Dec 30, 2011, at 3:11 PM, Bruce B wrote:
> 
>> Hi everyone,
>> 
>> I am playing around with Asterisk 1.8.8.0 from Digium repository. This is 
>> all there is to my logger.conf file:
>> 
>> [general]
>> dateformat=%F %T
>> 
>> [logfiles]
>> full => notice,warning,error,debug,verbose,dtmf,fax
>> 
>> However, when I do, "core set verbose 0" at CLI, Asterisk ceases to write to 
>> /var/log/asterisk/full file for some reason. When I type "core set verbose 
>> 9" at CLI then it starts writing to /var/log/asterisk/full. Is this the 
>> correct behaviour or am I missing a config setting?
>> 
>> Of course I want the /var/log/asterisk/full file to always keep the logs 
>> regardless of what the verbosity at CLI level is. 
>> 
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Re: [asterisk-users] High verbose set at console effects the logger file "Full" - Why is that?

2011-12-30 Thread Bruce B
>
>
> One can set the verbose level as well as the debug level. These control
> how much log information is generated at all not where it is being written.
>
> What do you mean by above? Can I see something in the logger.conf that
will keep it always at certain verbose level regardless of what command I
issue at CLI?

You see the problem I have is that Fail2ban reads the asterisk "full" log
file. So, if I am playing on the CLI and then do "core set verbose 0" and
exit the box and forget to set it back to 9 then Fail2ban stops working
because the log file hasn't logged the attack.

I still think there is a way around this and I am missing a config. Why
would anyone tie security logs to a mere CLI command?

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Re: [asterisk-users] High verbose set at console effects the logger file "Full" - Why is that?

2011-12-30 Thread Jim Dickenson

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On Dec 30, 2011, at 4:55 PM, Bruce B wrote:

> 
> One can set the verbose level as well as the debug level. These control how 
> much log information is generated at all not where it is being written.
> 
> What do you mean by above? Can I see something in the logger.conf that will 
> keep it always at certain verbose level regardless of what command I issue at 
> CLI?

No the verbose command controls how much verbose stuff is output. The debug 
command controls how much debug stuff is output. These are absolute controls of 
that information. As I said in my original email you can turn off stuff going 
to the CLI with the logger mute command. That way you do not adjust the verbose 
level at all.

> 
> You see the problem I have is that Fail2ban reads the asterisk "full" log 
> file. So, if I am playing on the CLI and then do "core set verbose 0" and 
> exit the box and forget to set it back to 9 then Fail2ban stops working 
> because the log file hasn't logged the attack.
> 
> I still think there is a way around this and I am missing a config. Why would 
> anyone tie security logs to a mere CLI command?
> 
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Re: [asterisk-users] High verbose set at console effects the logger file "Full" - Why is that?

2011-12-30 Thread Bruce B
So, based on what you are saying if I issue the command "core set verbose
0" and then exit the system Fail2Ban will stop working for Asterisk (this
is since Fail2ban works based on the log file entries).

Can anyone else please confirm that as well.

Thanks again for your input.

On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 8:36 PM, Jim Dickenson  wrote:

>
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>
>
> On Dec 30, 2011, at 4:55 PM, Bruce B wrote:
>
>
>> One can set the verbose level as well as the debug level. These control
>> how much log information is generated at all not where it is being written.
>>
>> What do you mean by above? Can I see something in the logger.conf that
> will keep it always at certain verbose level regardless of what command I
> issue at CLI?
>
>
> No the verbose command controls how much verbose stuff is output. The
> debug command controls how much debug stuff is output. These are absolute
> controls of that information. As I said in my original email you can turn
> off stuff going to the CLI with the logger mute command. That way you do
> not adjust the verbose level at all.
>
>
> You see the problem I have is that Fail2ban reads the asterisk "full" log
> file. So, if I am playing on the CLI and then do "core set verbose 0" and
> exit the box and forget to set it back to 9 then Fail2ban stops working
> because the log file hasn't logged the attack.
>
> I still think there is a way around this and I am missing a config. Why
> would anyone tie security logs to a mere CLI command?
>
> Thanks again
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Re: [asterisk-users] High verbose set at console effects the logger file "Full" - Why is that?

2011-12-31 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 09:03:34PM -0500, Bruce B wrote:
> So, based on what you are saying if I issue the command "core set verbose
> 0" and then exit the system Fail2Ban will stop working for Asterisk (this
> is since Fail2ban works based on the log file entries).
> 
> Can anyone else please confirm that as well.

Though in trunk you can set different log levels to different files.

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Re: [asterisk-users] High verbose set at console effects the logger file "Full" - Why is that?

2011-12-31 Thread Bruce B
On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 5:06 AM, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:

> On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 09:03:34PM -0500, Bruce B wrote:
> > So, based on what you are saying if I issue the command "core set verbose
> > 0" and then exit the system Fail2Ban will stop working for Asterisk (this
> > is since Fail2ban works based on the log file entries).
> >
> > Can anyone else please confirm that as well.
>
> Though in trunk you can set different log levels to different files.
>
>
Tzafrir, thanks for the feedback. Can you please elaborate on that. Is that
something that is not effected by the CLI commands? Not sure which trunk
you are pointing too.

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Re: [asterisk-users] High verbose set at console effects the logger file "Full" - Why is that?

2012-02-16 Thread Luke Hamburg
https://reviewboard.asterisk.org/r/1599/
I so wish that this patch would be backported to the 1.8 branch!  I am
considering switching to trunk just for this alone.

I know it's a stretch but, given the popularity of running Fail2Ban
alongside Asterisk, could it not fall under the pretense of 'security risk'
that someone very easily breaks Fail2Ban by forgetting to set verbose back
to 5 during a routine CLI session where they might have temporarily needed
to reduce verbosity?  

I know I'm reaching, but doesn't hurt to beg.

Luke


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[mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Tzafrir Cohen
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 5:06 AM
To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] High verbose set at console effects the logger
file "Full" - Why is that?

On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 09:03:34PM -0500, Bruce B wrote:
> So, based on what you are saying if I issue the command "core set 
> verbose 0" and then exit the system Fail2Ban will stop working for 
> Asterisk (this is since Fail2ban works based on the log file entries).
> 
> Can anyone else please confirm that as well.

Though in trunk you can set different log levels to different files.

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Re: [asterisk-users] High verbose set at console effects the logger file "Full" - Why is that?

2012-02-16 Thread Mike
A definite "me too" from my side. Always wondered why it wasn't like that.
It would do wonders to help us fix our own problems instead of filling in
bugs or posting here ;-) (hint hint)

Mike



> -Original Message-
> From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-
> boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Luke Hamburg
> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 2:18 PM
> To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion'
> Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] High verbose set at console effects the
> logger file "Full" - Why is that?
> 
> https://reviewboard.asterisk.org/r/1599/
> I so wish that this patch would be backported to the 1.8 branch!  I am
> considering switching to trunk just for this alone.
> 
> I know it's a stretch but, given the popularity of running Fail2Ban
> alongside Asterisk, could it not fall under the pretense of 'security
> risk'
> that someone very easily breaks Fail2Ban by forgetting to set verbose back
> to 5 during a routine CLI session where they might have temporarily needed
> to reduce verbosity?
> 
> I know I'm reaching, but doesn't hurt to beg.
> 
> Luke
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com
> [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Tzafrir
> Cohen
> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 5:06 AM
> To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
> Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] High verbose set at console effects the
> logger file "Full" - Why is that?
> 
> On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 09:03:34PM -0500, Bruce B wrote:
> > So, based on what you are saying if I issue the command "core set
> > verbose 0" and then exit the system Fail2Ban will stop working for
> > Asterisk (this is since Fail2ban works based on the log file entries).
> >
> > Can anyone else please confirm that as well.
> 
> Though in trunk you can set different log levels to different files.
> 
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Re: [asterisk-users] High verbose set at console effects the logger file "Full" - Why is that?

2012-02-16 Thread Patrick Lists

On 16-02-12 20:18, Luke Hamburg wrote:

https://reviewboard.asterisk.org/r/1599/
I so wish that this patch would be backported to the 1.8 branch!  I am
considering switching to trunk just for this alone.

I know it's a stretch but, given the popularity of running Fail2Ban
alongside Asterisk, could it not fall under the pretense of 'security risk'
that someone very easily breaks Fail2Ban by forgetting to set verbose back
to 5 during a routine CLI session where they might have temporarily needed
to reduce verbosity?

I know I'm reaching, but doesn't hurt to beg.


Yes that would be a very nice addition. Perhaps someone with Asterisk 
coding skills can backport the patch. Have you checked if it applies at 
all to the latest 1.8 master? I wonder if that patch is already part of 
10 master or the 10.2 branch as I could not see anything mentioned on 
reviewboard.


Regards,
Patrick

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Re: [asterisk-users] High verbose set at console effects the logger file "Full" - Why is that?

2012-02-16 Thread Matthew Jordan

- Original Message -
> From: "Patrick Lists" 
> To: "Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion" 
> 
> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 6:32:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] High verbose set at console effects the logger 
> file "Full" - Why is that?
> 
> On 16-02-12 20:18, Luke Hamburg wrote:
> > https://reviewboard.asterisk.org/r/1599/
> > I so wish that this patch would be backported to the 1.8 branch!  I
> > am
> > considering switching to trunk just for this alone.
> >
> > I know it's a stretch but, given the popularity of running Fail2Ban
> > alongside Asterisk, could it not fall under the pretense of
> > 'security risk'
> > that someone very easily breaks Fail2Ban by forgetting to set
> > verbose back
> > to 5 during a routine CLI session where they might have temporarily
> > needed
> > to reduce verbosity?
> >
> > I know I'm reaching, but doesn't hurt to beg.
> 
> Yes that would be a very nice addition. Perhaps someone with Asterisk
> coding skills can backport the patch. Have you checked if it applies
> at
> all to the latest 1.8 master? I wonder if that patch is already part
> of
> 10 master or the 10.2 branch as I could not see anything mentioned on
> reviewboard.

It's not in Asterisk 10, it's in the current trunk, which will eventually
become Asterisk 11.  The patch, while a very nice and useful enhancement,
is unfortunately fairly intrusive.  I can't see it becoming part of
the Asterisk 1.8 or Asterisk 10 branches, given (a) the fact that it
is certainly an improvement and not a bug fix, and (b) the risk involved
in back-porting a patch of that magnitude and scope.

> Regards,
> Patrick
> 

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Re: [asterisk-users] High verbose set at console effects the logger file "Full" - Why is that?

2012-02-16 Thread Luke Hamburg
Fair enough.
Giving up on the backport to 1.8 or 10 for now, I had a thought for a
kludge.

How about a shell script (scheduled with cron) that checks for any 'active'
consoles -- any connected consoles where there has been user input within
the last X minutes.  If it finds none, then set the verbosity back to 5 (or
whatever level you want).  

There are a few problems with this -- I couldn't find any way to:

1) query Asterisk for a count or list of console connections, much less
'active' ones
2) query Asterisk for the current verbosity level (without changing it)

Am I barking up another wrong tree here?
Anyone have any other ideas on how to solve this problem?


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Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] High verbose set at console effects the logger
file "Full" - Why is that?


It's not in Asterisk 10, it's in the current trunk, which will eventually
become Asterisk 11.  The patch, while a very nice and useful enhancement, is
unfortunately fairly intrusive.  I can't see it becoming part of the
Asterisk 1.8 or Asterisk 10 branches, given (a) the fact that it is
certainly an improvement and not a bug fix, and (b) the risk involved in
back-porting a patch of that magnitude and scope.

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Re: [asterisk-users] High verbose set at console effects the logger file "Full" - Why is that?

2012-02-17 Thread Bruce B
Wouldn't a shell script be a band-aid solution?

CLI verbose should have absolutely no effect on other loggings. I have been
saying this forever that Asterisk logging should be very strong and
separate of anything else including what we see on the CLI. This is
important for security reasons. You forget to put the verbose back to 9
then your Fail2ban stop working. You are debugging the server and playing
with "core set verbose" then you are momentarily opening for attacks.

I do understand what "core set verbose" was initially made for but these
things are not set in stone and should be improved given security is
becoming such a huge issue.

Separating logger.conf from "core set verbose" is the best solution.

Best,

On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 10:11 PM, Luke Hamburg  wrote:

> Fair enough.
> Giving up on the backport to 1.8 or 10 for now, I had a thought for a
> kludge.
>
> How about a shell script (scheduled with cron) that checks for any 'active'
> consoles -- any connected consoles where there has been user input within
> the last X minutes.  If it finds none, then set the verbosity back to 5 (or
> whatever level you want).
>
> There are a few problems with this -- I couldn't find any way to:
>
> 1) query Asterisk for a count or list of console connections, much less
> 'active' ones
> 2) query Asterisk for the current verbosity level (without changing it)
>
> Am I barking up another wrong tree here?
> Anyone have any other ideas on how to solve this problem?
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com
> [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Matthew
> Jordan
> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 8:06 PM
> To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
> Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] High verbose set at console effects the
> logger
> file "Full" - Why is that?
>
>
> It's not in Asterisk 10, it's in the current trunk, which will eventually
> become Asterisk 11.  The patch, while a very nice and useful enhancement,
> is
> unfortunately fairly intrusive.  I can't see it becoming part of the
> Asterisk 1.8 or Asterisk 10 branches, given (a) the fact that it is
> certainly an improvement and not a bug fix, and (b) the risk involved in
> back-porting a patch of that magnitude and scope.
>
> Matthew Jordan
> Digium, Inc. | Software Developer
>
>
>
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