Re: [asterisk-users] Intel Vs AMD
On Sun, 22 Feb 2009, Doug wrote: This would work: ~~ Codegen case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811182566 Thermaltake power supply: http://www.mwave.com/mwave/viewspec_v2.asp?scriteria=BA23480 Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-M61PME-S2 http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=enq=M61PME-S2cid=8677888669212799391scoring=mrd#ps-sellers AMD CPU- Athlon X2 5050E AM2 2.6GHZ 1MB 65NM 45W 2000MHZ Pib: http://www.mwave.com/mwave/skusearch.hmx?scriteria=BA25671 2GB Crucial Memory: http://www.mwave.com/mwave/skusearch.hmx?scriteria=BA24642 Seagate Harddrive 500 GB: http://www.mwave.com/mwave/viewspec_v2.asp?scriteria=AA72270 Pioneer CD/DVD: http://www.mwave.com/mwave/viewspec_v2.asp?scriteria=AA73666 Floppy Drive: http://www.mwave.com/mwave/viewspec_v2.asp?scriteria=AA00693 Extra case fans: http://store4pc.stores.yahoo.net/80ulquietcas1.html ~~ Right now it's important to support AMD. If they go under, Intel will just slack off. Interesting shopping list - I've just built a new server for my co-lo and it's an Intel Atom mobo. Normally I do use AMD though, but right now, power consumption is an issue and hen AMD's low power chips are mainstream, I'll look at usin them.. My dual-core Atom mobo with 1GB RAM, 2 x WDC drives consumes just 42 watts. Which means it will run at room temperatures without any issues with no case fans. (although the co-lo has 2+1 AC) I also don't bother with CD/Floppy drives these days either unless it's a desktop box. Too easy to just plug in a roving USB one these days. Keep it simple: 32 bits. Indeed! Gordon ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Intel Vs AMD
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 08:00:38AM +, Gordon Henderson wrote: On Sun, 22 Feb 2009, Doug wrote: Interesting shopping list - I've just built a new server for my co-lo and it's an Intel Atom mobo. Normally I do use AMD though, but right now, power consumption is an issue and hen AMD's low power chips are mainstream, I'll look at usin them.. My dual-core Atom mobo with 1GB RAM, 2 x WDC drives consumes just 42 watts. Which means it will run at room temperatures without any issues with no case fans. (although the co-lo has 2+1 AC) If power consumption is a concern, also concider some Via CPUs. Keep it simple: 32 bits. Indeed! Not really sure. I think that for transcoding 64bit might help. But I have not done any benchmarks either way. -- Tzafrir Cohen icq#16849755 jabber:tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com +972-50-7952406 mailto:tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com http://www.xorcom.com iax:gu...@local.xorcom.com/tzafrir ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Intel Vs AMD
On Mon, 23 Feb 2009, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 08:00:38AM +, Gordon Henderson wrote: On Sun, 22 Feb 2009, Doug wrote: Interesting shopping list - I've just built a new server for my co-lo and it's an Intel Atom mobo. Normally I do use AMD though, but right now, power consumption is an issue and hen AMD's low power chips are mainstream, I'll look at usin them.. My dual-core Atom mobo with 1GB RAM, 2 x WDC drives consumes just 42 watts. Which means it will run at room temperatures without any issues with no case fans. (although the co-lo has 2+1 AC) If power consumption is a concern, also concider some Via CPUs. Oh I do! But for the office PBXs. Typical power consumption of those is just 15W. See http://unicorn.drogon.net/power.jpg That's a 1GHz VIA CN1000G board, 512MB RAM and a TDM400 card with 3 FXO ports. I think it's hard to get much lower than that using commodity components. Here I want something with just a bit more oomph in the co-lo as it will be handling many more SIP registrations, a few IAX trunks and a small number of transcodes. And, although my co-lo hasn't moved to it yet, a lot of co-lo's in the UK are now charging per amp in addition to the basic hosting costs. In London, bandwidth is virtually free, but electrical power costs money! Gordon ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Intel Vs AMD
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 03:10, Tzafrir Cohen tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 08:00:38AM +, Gordon Henderson wrote: On Sun, 22 Feb 2009, Doug wrote: Interesting shopping list - I've just built a new server for my co-lo and it's an Intel Atom mobo. Normally I do use AMD though, but right now, power consumption is an issue and hen AMD's low power chips are mainstream, I'll look at usin them.. My dual-core Atom mobo with 1GB RAM, 2 x WDC drives consumes just 42 watts. Which means it will run at room temperatures without any issues with no case fans. (although the co-lo has 2+1 AC) If power consumption is a concern, also concider some Via CPUs. AMD also has dual-core 45w CPU's. Not as efficient as Intel Atom or VIA, but quite a bit more powerful. I use on on my desktop PC -- with other systems I notice the room gets warm, but not when using a 45w AMD. For my deployed Asterisk servers, they are pretty old -- either AMD Opteron 939 (I think those are at least 89, if not 110 watts!) pins dual core or 478 pin Pentium 4 (2-3ghz) -- but they run just fine. I think I would concentrate more on getting high-quality mainboard, power supply and RAM than what the CPU speed is, unless you plan to have heavy traffic. Who cares how fast the CPU is if you have a PCCHIPS board with generic RAM and an off-brand 500 watt PSU (that really gives off 200 watts) that all make the system unstable? ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Intel Vs AMD
On Sun, 22 Feb 2009, michel freiha wrote: Hi all, I took my decision to use Asterisk server for handling my VOIP calls...My next step is to choose the best hardware that I should use i order to have the best performance...Here I faced 2 choices for my hardware (CPU)... 1- Using Intel CPU or AMD 2- Use 32 or 64 bits Can you help me please to choose between the above choices and what is the advantage and disadvantage of each of choices How many concurrent calls. How much transcoding? A 1GHz Via processor with 128KB cache will handle 100 concurrent calls with no transcoding. Anything above that is a bonus, and 64-bit is a waste for something like asterisk IMO. So use what you're most familiar with. Gordon ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Intel Vs AMD
Quad core Intel ;) -Original Message- From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Gordon Henderson Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 2:07 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Intel Vs AMD On Sun, 22 Feb 2009, michel freiha wrote: Hi all, I took my decision to use Asterisk server for handling my VOIP calls...My next step is to choose the best hardware that I should use i order to have the best performance...Here I faced 2 choices for my hardware (CPU)... 1- Using Intel CPU or AMD 2- Use 32 or 64 bits Can you help me please to choose between the above choices and what is the advantage and disadvantage of each of choices How many concurrent calls. How much transcoding? A 1GHz Via processor with 128KB cache will handle 100 concurrent calls with no transcoding. Anything above that is a bonus, and 64-bit is a waste for something like asterisk IMO. So use what you're most familiar with. Gordon ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.2/1965 - Release Date: 02/21/09 15:36:00 ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Intel Vs AMD
2009/2/22 Gordon Henderson gordon+aster...@drogon.netgordon%2baster...@drogon.net On Sun, 22 Feb 2009, michel freiha wrote: Hi all, I took my decision to use Asterisk server for handling my VOIP calls...My next step is to choose the best hardware that I should use i order to have the best performance...Here I faced 2 choices for my hardware (CPU)... 1- Using Intel CPU or AMD 2- Use 32 or 64 bits Can you help me please to choose between the above choices and what is the advantage and disadvantage of each of choices How many concurrent calls. How much transcoding? A 1GHz Via processor with 128KB cache will handle 100 concurrent calls with no transcoding. Anything above that is a bonus, and 64-bit is a waste for something like asterisk IMO. sorry for the ignorance what is asterisk IMO? 64 bits are usefull for trasncoding? thanks David So use what you're most familiar with. Gordon ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- (\__/) (='.'=)This is Bunny. Copy and paste bunny into your ()_()signature to help him gain world domination. ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Intel Vs AMD
what is asterisk IMO? Asterisk, I think you know. IMO is a common E-Mail/Newsgroup abbreviation that means In My Opinion--similar to another one IMHO (Humble). Wilton ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Intel Vs AMD
At 12:33 2/22/2009, michel freiha wrote: Hi all, I took my decision to use Asterisk server for handling my VOIP calls...My next step is to choose the best hardware that I should use i order to have the best performance...Here I faced 2 choices for my hardware (CPU)... 1- Using Intel CPU or AMD 2- Use 32 or 64 bits Can you help me please to choose between the above choices and what is the advantage and disadvantage of each of choices regards Most new hardware is severe overkill for Asterisk--it's just not that resource intensive. This would work: ~~ Codegen case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811182566 Thermaltake power supply: http://www.mwave.com/mwave/viewspec_v2.asp?scriteria=BA23480 Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-M61PME-S2 http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=enq=M61PME-S2cid=8677888669212799391scoring=mrd#ps-sellers AMD CPU- Athlon X2 5050E AM2 2.6GHZ 1MB 65NM 45W 2000MHZ Pib: http://www.mwave.com/mwave/skusearch.hmx?scriteria=BA25671 2GB Crucial Memory: http://www.mwave.com/mwave/skusearch.hmx?scriteria=BA24642 Seagate Harddrive 500 GB: http://www.mwave.com/mwave/viewspec_v2.asp?scriteria=AA72270 Pioneer CD/DVD: http://www.mwave.com/mwave/viewspec_v2.asp?scriteria=AA73666 Floppy Drive: http://www.mwave.com/mwave/viewspec_v2.asp?scriteria=AA00693 Extra case fans: http://store4pc.stores.yahoo.net/80ulquietcas1.html ~~ Right now it's important to support AMD. If they go under, Intel will just slack off. Keep it simple: 32 bits. If you want to keep it *very* simple: http://PBXinaFlash.net/ ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Intel Vs AMD
Doug wrote: At 12:33 2/22/2009, michel freiha wrote: Hi all, I took my decision to use Asterisk server for handling my VOIP calls...My next step is to choose the best hardware that I should use i order to have the best performance...Here I faced 2 choices for my hardware (CPU)... 1- Using Intel CPU or AMD 2- Use 32 or 64 bits Can you help me please to choose between the above choices and what is the advantage and disadvantage of each of choices LESS FILLING! ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] intel vs amd motherboards
i don't think there is ANY difference with 1 or 2 SATA HDD. however here is my single proc Xeon2.8 (512k) g723 gsm ulaw alaw g726 adpcm slin lpc10 g729 speex ilbc g723 - - - - - - - - - - - gsm - - 2 2 2 2 1 6 9 -14 ulaw - 3 - 1 2 2 1 6 9 -14 alaw - 3 1 - 2 2 1 6 9 -14 g726 - 3 2 2 - 2 1 6 9 -14 adpcm - 3 2 2 2 - 1 6 9 -14 slin - 2 1 1 1 1 - 5 8 -13 lpc10 - 4 3 3 3 3 2 -10 -15 g729 - 4 3 3 3 3 2 7 - -15 speex - - - - - - - - - - - ilbc - 4 3 3 3 3 2 710 - - and here is a dual Xeon3.2(1M) g723 gsm ulaw alaw g726 adpcm slin lpc10 g729 speex ilbc g723 - - - - - - - - - - - gsm - - 2 2 2 2 1 4 9 -14 ulaw - 2 - 1 2 2 1 4 9 -14 alaw - 2 1 - 2 2 1 4 9 -14 g726 - 2 2 2 - 2 1 4 9 -14 adpcm - 2 2 2 2 - 1 4 9 -14 slin - 1 1 1 1 1 - 3 8 -13 lpc10 - 3 3 3 3 3 2 -10 -15 g729 - 2 2 2 2 2 1 4 - -14 speex - - - - - - - - - - - ilbc - 3 3 3 3 3 2 510 - - the conclusion to me, is comparing transcoding capabilities with show translation is like bogoMIPS... I have recently build 2 machines, one with an Intel Pentium Dual Core CPU, and one SATA HDD, and the other with a single AMD 64 bit CPU, and a RAID 1 w 2 SATA HDD. Both costed the same even though the AMD had 2 HDDs. Here are the show translations from both: Intel Dual Core machine: pbx*CLI show translation Translation times between formats (in milliseconds) Source Format (Rows) Destination Format(Columns) g723 gsm ulaw alaw g726 adpcm slin lpc10 g729 speex ilbc g723 - - - - - - - - - - - gsm - - 2 2 2 2 1 517 -17 ulaw - 2 - 1 2 2 1 517 -17 alaw - 2 1 - 2 2 1 517 -17 g726 - 2 2 2 - 2 1 517 -17 adpcm - 2 2 2 2 - 1 517 -17 slin - 1 1 1 1 1 - 416 -16 lpc10 - 3 3 3 3 3 2 -18 -18 g729 - 4 4 4 4 4 3 7 - -19 speex - - - - - - - - - - - ilbc - 3 3 3 3 3 2 618 - - AMD 64 bit machine: pbx*CLI show translation Translation times between formats (in milliseconds) Source Format (Rows) Destination Format(Columns) g723 gsm ulaw alaw g726 adpcm slin lpc10 g729 speex ilbc g723 - - - - - - - - - - - gsm - - 2 2 2 2 1 313 -12 ulaw - 3 - 1 2 2 1 313 -12 alaw - 3 1 - 2 2 1 313 -12 g726 - 3 2 2 - 2 1 313 -12 adpcm - 3 2 2 2 - 1 313 -12 slin - 2 1 1 1 1 - 212 -11 lpc10 - 3 2 2 2 2 1 -13 -12 g729 - 4 3 3 3 3 2 4 - -13 speex - - - - - - - - - - - ilbc - 4 3 3 3 3 2 414 - - This shows that the AMD 64 bit is worth much more than just the price difference. On 7/6/06, Andrew Kirch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-users- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 11:00 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] intel vs amd motherboards If you want to handle, lets say 1000 calls or more at the same time, you should of course use a better processor. In my opinion, it doesn't matter whether you
Re: [asterisk-users] intel vs amd motherboards
As we are talking about pbx boxes (for large office/enterprises/ maybe ITSP?) i think we are using server grade boxes (like hp ml3xx or bigger) I have some servers with fan on cpu heatsink, but most of them are using only heatsink on cpu, and redundant fans. I think, we need some real life comparison to decide, what to choose. i'm not a cpu expert, but who knows, if dual amd is better for transcoding or dual xeon? i think it can as big weight on paralellisation as big weight on horsepower also, don't you think? Another thing, is what to choose? another cpu (so go for dual, or quad) or bigger cache inside? (probably another 3.2G/1M xeon would cost less, than replace the existing with a 3.2G/2M) So i would welcome (and maybe pay for) a real life test what says: AMD opteron will do x paralell alaw-g.729 dual opteron, fx66 and the same for intel pentium extreme, duo core, xeon with 512k cache, xeon with 1M cache, and probably with 2. and also Xeon DP. -- WoodOO-[P]an[G]alaktikan[A]gent-People ][ http://shadow.pganet.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]@RedHat.users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] intel vs amd motherboards
ooops, sorry, you right, forgot to mention it... It was to be compared with AMD 64. Olivier C F a écrit : Olivier can you please do a cat /proc/cpuinfo and post it here? I think you have a 64 bit cpu. On 7/9/06, olivier.taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fyi, Double Intel Xeon 3Ghz performance below g723 gsm ulaw alaw g726 adpcm slin lpc10 g729 speex ilbc g723 - - - - - - - - - - - gsm - - 2 2 2 2 1 410 2914 ulaw - 2 - 1 2 2 1 410 2914 alaw - 2 1 - 2 2 1 410 2914 g726 - 2 2 2 - 2 1 410 2914 adpcm - 2 2 2 2 - 1 410 2914 slin - 1 1 1 1 1 - 3 9 2813 lpc10 - 3 3 3 3 3 2 -11 3015 g729 - 3 3 3 3 3 2 5 - 3015 speex - 3 3 3 3 3 2 511 -15 ilbc - 3 3 3 3 3 2 511 30 - Olivier Tzafrir Cohen a écrit : On Sun, Jul 09, 2006 at 05:07:16AM -0400, C F wrote: Tzafrir, are you trying to tell me that I can realy do double on the intel becuase the second CPU will do it? In the ideal case you'll get double performance with two CPUs. In theory. A case of many concurrent calls is basically something that can be easily parallelized. So in theory nothing stops you from getting something closer to double performance. I don't know how close reality is to that nice theory. I only remarked that 'show translations' totally ignores the second CPU. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] intel vs amd motherboards
On Sun, Jul 09, 2006 at 05:56:49PM -0400, C F wrote: Thanks for that Tzafrir. Why does it ignore the secend CPU? 'show translations' is done by a loop that for each pair of codecs meassures the time it takes to convert a relatively short ammount of data between the two. Thus each conversion is done by a single CPU. I'm not saying 'show translations' is anywhere near useless. It is a standard benchmark that comes with Asterisk and useful as such. Benchmark can be handy when used right. -- Tzafrir Cohen sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED] icq#16849755 iax:[EMAIL PROTECTED] +972-50-7952406 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.xorcom.com ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [asterisk-users] intel vs amd motherboards
I think it's the same, 10 calls in 200ms = 50 calls in 1s because 1s = 5 x 200ms IMHO, is better to use seconds as period, because is more ease to compare rate speeds of each codec that are in bits per second. fabio -Mensaje original- De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] nombre de C F Enviado el: Domingo, 09 de Julio de 2006 06:57 p.m. Para: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Asunto: Re: [asterisk-users] intel vs amd motherboards Thanks for that Tzafrir. Why does it ignore the secend CPU? BTW, on a side note on this topic, how can one calculate simultaneous transcoded channels using show transalation? In the case where it tells me 17 ms for encoding and 4 for decoding, that gives me 21ms per channel, in what time frame can I squeeze in how many channels before the calls start becoming intolerable? In other words should I aim for a 200ms time frame which means that I will get around 10 channels? or can I aim for a full second? which will give me around 50 channels? Thank You On 7/9/06, Tzafrir Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Jul 09, 2006 at 05:07:16AM -0400, C F wrote: Tzafrir, are you trying to tell me that I can realy do double on the intel becuase the second CPU will do it? In the ideal case you'll get double performance with two CPUs. In theory. A case of many concurrent calls is basically something that can be easily parallelized. So in theory nothing stops you from getting something closer to double performance. I don't know how close reality is to that nice theory. I only remarked that 'show translations' totally ignores the second CPU. -- Tzafrir Cohen sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED] icq#16849755 iax:[EMAIL PROTECTED] +972-50-7952406 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.xorcom.com ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] intel vs amd motherboards
But my question is, those that mean that it will take 1 second to convert 50 channels? if so do I get a 1 second latency when coverting 50 channels? On 7/10/06, Fabio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it's the same, 10 calls in 200ms = 50 calls in 1s because 1s = 5 x 200ms IMHO, is better to use seconds as period, because is more ease to compare rate speeds of each codec that are in bits per second. fabio -Mensaje original- De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] nombre de C F Enviado el: Domingo, 09 de Julio de 2006 06:57 p.m. Para: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Asunto: Re: [asterisk-users] intel vs amd motherboards Thanks for that Tzafrir. Why does it ignore the secend CPU? BTW, on a side note on this topic, how can one calculate simultaneous transcoded channels using show transalation? In the case where it tells me 17 ms for encoding and 4 for decoding, that gives me 21ms per channel, in what time frame can I squeeze in how many channels before the calls start becoming intolerable? In other words should I aim for a 200ms time frame which means that I will get around 10 channels? or can I aim for a full second? which will give me around 50 channels? Thank You On 7/9/06, Tzafrir Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Jul 09, 2006 at 05:07:16AM -0400, C F wrote: Tzafrir, are you trying to tell me that I can realy do double on the intel becuase the second CPU will do it? In the ideal case you'll get double performance with two CPUs. In theory. A case of many concurrent calls is basically something that can be easily parallelized. So in theory nothing stops you from getting something closer to double performance. I don't know how close reality is to that nice theory. I only remarked that 'show translations' totally ignores the second CPU. -- Tzafrir Cohen sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED] icq#16849755 iax:[EMAIL PROTECTED] +972-50-7952406 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.xorcom.com ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [asterisk-users] intel vs amd motherboards
looking on the code, I think that the time on the table is the time that needed the CPU in order to translate 1 second of media. So, on the case of calls with ulaw - alaw translation (1 ms in each translation), this CPU could sustain, theoretically, 500 calls without delay (two simultaneous translations, ulaw to alaw, and alaw to ulaw are needed, to maintain the conversation full duplex). please, somebody could confirm this ?. fabio -Mensaje original- De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] nombre de C F Enviado el: Lunes, 10 de Julio de 2006 03:46 p.m. Para: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Asunto: Re: [asterisk-users] intel vs amd motherboards But my question is, those that mean that it will take 1 second to convert 50 channels? if so do I get a 1 second latency when coverting 50 channels? On 7/10/06, Fabio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it's the same, 10 calls in 200ms = 50 calls in 1s because 1s = 5 x 200ms IMHO, is better to use seconds as period, because is more ease to compare rate speeds of each codec that are in bits per second. fabio -Mensaje original- De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] nombre de C F Enviado el: Domingo, 09 de Julio de 2006 06:57 p.m. Para: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Asunto: Re: [asterisk-users] intel vs amd motherboards Thanks for that Tzafrir. Why does it ignore the secend CPU? BTW, on a side note on this topic, how can one calculate simultaneous transcoded channels using show transalation? In the case where it tells me 17 ms for encoding and 4 for decoding, that gives me 21ms per channel, in what time frame can I squeeze in how many channels before the calls start becoming intolerable? In other words should I aim for a 200ms time frame which means that I will get around 10 channels? or can I aim for a full second? which will give me around 50 channels? Thank You On 7/9/06, Tzafrir Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Jul 09, 2006 at 05:07:16AM -0400, C F wrote: Tzafrir, are you trying to tell me that I can realy do double on the intel becuase the second CPU will do it? In the ideal case you'll get double performance with two CPUs. In theory. A case of many concurrent calls is basically something that can be easily parallelized. So in theory nothing stops you from getting something closer to double performance. I don't know how close reality is to that nice theory. I only remarked that 'show translations' totally ignores the second CPU. -- Tzafrir Cohen sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED] icq#16849755 iax:[EMAIL PROTECTED] +972-50-7952406 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.xorcom.com ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] intel vs amd motherboards
Tzafrir, are you trying to tell me that I can realy do double on the intel becuase the second CPU will do it? On 7/7/06, Tzafrir Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jul 06, 2006 at 03:32:04PM -0400, C F wrote: I have recently build 2 machines, one with an Intel Pentium Dual Core CPU, and one SATA HDD, and the other with a single AMD 64 bit CPU, and a RAID 1 w 2 SATA HDD. Both costed the same even though the AMD had 2 HDDs. Here are the show translations from both: Intel Dual Core machine: pbx*CLI show translation Translation times between formats (in milliseconds) Source Format (Rows) Destination Format(Columns) g723 gsm ulaw alaw g726 adpcm slin lpc10 g729 speex ilbc g723 - - - - - - - - - - - gsm - - 2 2 2 2 1 517 -17 ulaw - 2 - 1 2 2 1 517 -17 alaw - 2 1 - 2 2 1 517 -17 g726 - 2 2 2 - 2 1 517 -17 adpcm - 2 2 2 2 - 1 517 -17 slin - 1 1 1 1 1 - 416 -16 lpc10 - 3 3 3 3 3 2 -18 -18 g729 - 4 4 4 4 4 3 7 - -19 speex - - - - - - - - - - - ilbc - 3 3 3 3 3 2 618 - - AMD 64 bit machine: pbx*CLI show translation Translation times between formats (in milliseconds) Source Format (Rows) Destination Format(Columns) g723 gsm ulaw alaw g726 adpcm slin lpc10 g729 speex ilbc g723 - - - - - - - - - - - gsm - - 2 2 2 2 1 313 -12 ulaw - 3 - 1 2 2 1 313 -12 alaw - 3 1 - 2 2 1 313 -12 g726 - 3 2 2 - 2 1 313 -12 adpcm - 3 2 2 2 - 1 313 -12 slin - 2 1 1 1 1 - 212 -11 lpc10 - 3 2 2 2 2 1 -13 -12 g729 - 4 3 3 3 3 2 4 - -13 speex - - - - - - - - - - - ilbc - 4 3 3 3 3 2 414 - - This shows that the AMD 64 bit is worth much more than just the price difference. It shows that the AMD CPU performs better than each of the Intel CPUs separately: each such translation is inherently a single task eprformed by a single CPU. -- Tzafrir Cohen sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED] icq#16849755 iax:[EMAIL PROTECTED] +972-50-7952406 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.xorcom.com ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] intel vs amd motherboards
On Sun, Jul 09, 2006 at 05:07:16AM -0400, C F wrote: Tzafrir, are you trying to tell me that I can realy do double on the intel becuase the second CPU will do it? In the ideal case you'll get double performance with two CPUs. In theory. A case of many concurrent calls is basically something that can be easily parallelized. So in theory nothing stops you from getting something closer to double performance. I don't know how close reality is to that nice theory. I only remarked that 'show translations' totally ignores the second CPU. -- Tzafrir Cohen sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED] icq#16849755 iax:[EMAIL PROTECTED] +972-50-7952406 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.xorcom.com ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] intel vs amd motherboards
Fyi, Double Intel Xeon 3Ghz performance below g723 gsm ulaw alaw g726 adpcm slin lpc10 g729 speex ilbc g723 - - - - - - - - - - - gsm - - 2 2 2 2 1 4 10 29 14 ulaw - 2 - 1 2 2 1 4 10 29 14 alaw - 2 1 - 2 2 1 4 10 29 14 g726 - 2 2 2 - 2 1 4 10 29 14 adpcm - 2 2 2 2 - 1 4 10 29 14 slin - 1 1 1 1 1 - 3 9 28 13 lpc10 - 3 3 3 3 3 2 - 11 30 15 g729 - 3 3 3 3 3 2 5 - 30 15 speex - 3 3 3 3 3 2 5 11 - 15 ilbc - 3 3 3 3 3 2 5 11 30 - Olivier Tzafrir Cohen a crit: On Sun, Jul 09, 2006 at 05:07:16AM -0400, C F wrote: Tzafrir, are you trying to tell me that I can realy do double on the intel becuase the second CPU will do it? In the ideal case you'll get double performance with two CPUs. In theory. A case of many concurrent calls is basically something that can be easily parallelized. So in theory nothing stops you from getting something closer to double performance. I don't know how close reality is to that nice theory. I only remarked that 'show translations' totally ignores the second CPU. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] intel vs amd motherboards
Olivier can you please do a cat /proc/cpuinfo and post it here? I think you have a 64 bit cpu. On 7/9/06, olivier.taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fyi, Double Intel Xeon 3Ghz performance below g723 gsm ulaw alaw g726 adpcm slin lpc10 g729 speex ilbc g723 - - - - - - - - - - - gsm - - 2 2 2 2 1 4102914 ulaw - 2 - 1 2 2 1 4102914 alaw - 2 1 - 2 2 1 4102914 g726 - 2 2 2 - 2 1 4102914 adpcm - 2 2 2 2 - 1 4102914 slin - 1 1 1 1 1 - 3 92813 lpc10 - 3 3 3 3 3 2 -113015 g729 - 3 3 3 3 3 2 5 -3015 speex - 3 3 3 3 3 2 511 -15 ilbc - 3 3 3 3 3 2 51130 - Olivier Tzafrir Cohen a écrit : On Sun, Jul 09, 2006 at 05:07:16AM -0400, C F wrote: Tzafrir, are you trying to tell me that I can realy do double on the intel becuase the second CPU will do it? In the ideal case you'll get double performance with two CPUs. In theory. A case of many concurrent calls is basically something that can be easily parallelized. So in theory nothing stops you from getting something closer to double performance. I don't know how close reality is to that nice theory. I only remarked that 'show translations' totally ignores the second CPU. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] intel vs amd motherboards
Thanks for that Tzafrir. Why does it ignore the secend CPU? BTW, on a side note on this topic, how can one calculate simultaneous transcoded channels using show transalation? In the case where it tells me 17 ms for encoding and 4 for decoding, that gives me 21ms per channel, in what time frame can I squeeze in how many channels before the calls start becoming intolerable? In other words should I aim for a 200ms time frame which means that I will get around 10 channels? or can I aim for a full second? which will give me around 50 channels? Thank You On 7/9/06, Tzafrir Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Jul 09, 2006 at 05:07:16AM -0400, C F wrote: Tzafrir, are you trying to tell me that I can realy do double on the intel becuase the second CPU will do it? In the ideal case you'll get double performance with two CPUs. In theory. A case of many concurrent calls is basically something that can be easily parallelized. So in theory nothing stops you from getting something closer to double performance. I don't know how close reality is to that nice theory. I only remarked that 'show translations' totally ignores the second CPU. -- Tzafrir Cohen sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED] icq#16849755 iax:[EMAIL PROTECTED] +972-50-7952406 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.xorcom.com ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] intel vs amd motherboards
On Thu, Jul 06, 2006 at 03:32:04PM -0400, C F wrote: I have recently build 2 machines, one with an Intel Pentium Dual Core CPU, and one SATA HDD, and the other with a single AMD 64 bit CPU, and a RAID 1 w 2 SATA HDD. Both costed the same even though the AMD had 2 HDDs. Here are the show translations from both: Intel Dual Core machine: pbx*CLI show translation Translation times between formats (in milliseconds) Source Format (Rows) Destination Format(Columns) g723 gsm ulaw alaw g726 adpcm slin lpc10 g729 speex ilbc g723 - - - - - - - - - - - gsm - - 2 2 2 2 1 517 -17 ulaw - 2 - 1 2 2 1 517 -17 alaw - 2 1 - 2 2 1 517 -17 g726 - 2 2 2 - 2 1 517 -17 adpcm - 2 2 2 2 - 1 517 -17 slin - 1 1 1 1 1 - 416 -16 lpc10 - 3 3 3 3 3 2 -18 -18 g729 - 4 4 4 4 4 3 7 - -19 speex - - - - - - - - - - - ilbc - 3 3 3 3 3 2 618 - - AMD 64 bit machine: pbx*CLI show translation Translation times between formats (in milliseconds) Source Format (Rows) Destination Format(Columns) g723 gsm ulaw alaw g726 adpcm slin lpc10 g729 speex ilbc g723 - - - - - - - - - - - gsm - - 2 2 2 2 1 313 -12 ulaw - 3 - 1 2 2 1 313 -12 alaw - 3 1 - 2 2 1 313 -12 g726 - 3 2 2 - 2 1 313 -12 adpcm - 3 2 2 2 - 1 313 -12 slin - 2 1 1 1 1 - 212 -11 lpc10 - 3 2 2 2 2 1 -13 -12 g729 - 4 3 3 3 3 2 4 - -13 speex - - - - - - - - - - - ilbc - 4 3 3 3 3 2 414 - - This shows that the AMD 64 bit is worth much more than just the price difference. It shows that the AMD CPU performs better than each of the Intel CPUs separately: each such translation is inherently a single task eprformed by a single CPU. -- Tzafrir Cohen sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED] icq#16849755 iax:[EMAIL PROTECTED] +972-50-7952406 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.xorcom.com ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [asterisk-users] intel vs amd motherboards
I do know that the P4 core has a much longer pipeline (20 instructions?) than the AMD. That is not good for a real time application and that is one of the reasons AMD cpu's are able to do more with less clock cycles. Nobody has mentioned heat and power consumption either. AMD's A64's generate far less heat than P4's and for me that is a huge deal. I know Intel just came out with a server chip that supposedly narrows that gap but they really had no choice. AMD is kicking their butt on performance vs power consumption. Cost vs performance is fairly close these days so I don't think it's even worth considering that anymore IMHO. For me, compatiblity is a non-issue these days and either one will work. Cost vs Performance is a non-issue too. You pretty much get what you pay for there. However, I will take a cool running AMD A64 over a baseboard heater masquerading as a P4 CPU any day. -Original Message- From: Tzafrir Cohen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 10:58 PM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] intel vs amd motherboards On Thu, Jul 06, 2006 at 03:32:04PM -0400, C F wrote: I have recently build 2 machines, one with an Intel Pentium Dual Core CPU, and one SATA HDD, and the other with a single AMD 64 bit CPU, and a RAID 1 w 2 SATA HDD. Both costed the same even though the AMD had 2 HDDs. Here are the show translations from both: Intel Dual Core machine: pbx*CLI show translation Translation times between formats (in milliseconds) Source Format (Rows) Destination Format(Columns) g723 gsm ulaw alaw g726 adpcm slin lpc10 g729 speex ilbc g723 - - - - - - - - - - - gsm - - 2 2 2 2 1 5 17 -17 ulaw - 2 - 1 2 2 1 5 17 -17 alaw - 2 1 - 2 2 1 5 17 -17 g726 - 2 2 2 - 2 1 5 17 -17 adpcm - 2 2 2 2 - 1 5 17 -17 slin - 1 1 1 1 1 - 4 16 -16 lpc10 - 3 3 3 3 3 2 - 18 -18 g729 - 4 4 4 4 4 3 7 - -19 speex - - - - - - - - - - - ilbc - 3 3 3 3 3 2 6 18 - - AMD 64 bit machine: pbx*CLI show translation Translation times between formats (in milliseconds) Source Format (Rows) Destination Format(Columns) g723 gsm ulaw alaw g726 adpcm slin lpc10 g729 speex ilbc g723 - - - - - - - - - - - gsm - - 2 2 2 2 1 3 13 -12 ulaw - 3 - 1 2 2 1 3 13 -12 alaw - 3 1 - 2 2 1 3 13 -12 g726 - 3 2 2 - 2 1 3 13 -12 adpcm - 3 2 2 2 - 1 3 13 -12 slin - 2 1 1 1 1 - 2 12 -11 lpc10 - 3 2 2 2 2 1 - 13 -12 g729 - 4 3 3 3 3 2 4 - -13 speex - - - - - - - - - - - ilbc - 4 3 3 3 3 2 4 14 - - This shows that the AMD 64 bit is worth much more than just the price difference. It shows that the AMD CPU performs better than each of the Intel CPUs separately: each such translation is inherently a single task eprformed by a single CPU. -- Tzafrir Cohen sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED] icq#16849755 iax:[EMAIL PROTECTED] +972-50-7952406 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.xorcom.com ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] intel vs amd motherboards
On Fri, Jul 07, 2006 at 09:15:35AM -0700, shadowym wrote: I do know that the P4 core has a much longer pipeline (20 instructions?) than the AMD. That is not good for a real time application and that is one of the reasons AMD cpu's are able to do more with less clock cycles. Cool! The AMD CPU will finish performing an instructions a whole 5 nanoseconds before the Intel CPU! When a code is well-written (usually it mean: written by a good compiler) the pipeline delays won't add too much. In other words: this is a nice argument, but until it is backed up by hard data, it practically means nothing. -- Tzafrir Cohen sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED] icq#16849755 iax:[EMAIL PROTECTED] +972-50-7952406 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.xorcom.com ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [asterisk-users] intel vs amd motherboards
as tzafrir already said, you have the power of two processors in one .. . and you dont need more stoves ;)) -Mensaje original- De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] nombre de C F Enviado el: Viernes, 07 de Julio de 2006 12:29 a.m. Para: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Asunto: Re: [asterisk-users] intel vs amd motherboards cat /proc/cpuinfo on amd: cat /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 vendor_id : AuthenticAMD cpu family : 15 model : 47 model name : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+ stepping: 2 cpu MHz : 2000.000 cache size : 512 KB fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 1 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt lm 3dnowext 3dnow pni lahf_lm bogomips: 4025.55 TLB size: 1024 4K pages clflush size: 64 cache_alignment : 64 address sizes : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual power management: ts fid vid ttp tm stc cat /proc/cpuinfo on intel: cat /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family : 15 model : 6 model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 2.80GHz stepping: 2 cpu MHz : 2800.353 cache size : 2048 KB physical id : 0 siblings: 2 core id : 0 cpu cores : 2 fdiv_bug: no hlt_bug : no f00f_bug: no coma_bug: no fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 6 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe nx lm pni monitor ds_cpl vmx cid cx16 xtpr lahf_lm bogomips: 5609.03 processor : 1 vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family : 15 model : 6 model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 2.80GHz stepping: 2 cpu MHz : 2800.353 cache size : 2048 KB physical id : 0 siblings: 2 core id : 1 cpu cores : 2 fdiv_bug: no hlt_bug : no f00f_bug: no coma_bug: no fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 6 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe nx lm pni monitor ds_cpl vmx cid cx16 xtpr lahf_lm bogomips: 5600.89 On 7/6/06, Fabio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi CF, please could you to include CPUs specs, thanks in advance. Fabio -Mensaje original- De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] nombre de C F Enviado el: Jueves, 06 de Julio de 2006 04:32 p.m. Para: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Asunto: Re: [asterisk-users] intel vs amd motherboards I have recently build 2 machines, one with an Intel Pentium Dual Core CPU, and one SATA HDD, and the other with a single AMD 64 bit CPU, and a RAID 1 w 2 SATA HDD. Both costed the same even though the AMD had 2 HDDs. Here are the show translations from both: Intel Dual Core machine: pbx*CLI show translation Translation times between formats (in milliseconds) Source Format (Rows) Destination Format(Columns) g723 gsm ulaw alaw g726 adpcm slin lpc10 g729 speex ilbc g723 - - - - - - - - - - - gsm - - 2 2 2 2 1 517 -17 ulaw - 2 - 1 2 2 1 517 -17 alaw - 2 1 - 2 2 1 517 -17 g726 - 2 2 2 - 2 1 517 -17 adpcm - 2 2 2 2 - 1 517 -17 slin - 1 1 1 1 1 - 416 -16 lpc10 - 3 3 3 3 3 2 -18 -18 g729 - 4 4 4 4 4 3 7 - -19 speex - - - - - - - - - - - ilbc - 3 3 3 3 3 2 618 - - AMD 64 bit machine: pbx*CLI show translation Translation times between formats (in milliseconds) Source Format (Rows) Destination Format(Columns) g723 gsm ulaw alaw g726 adpcm slin lpc10 g729 speex ilbc g723 - - - - - - - - - - - gsm - - 2 2 2 2 1 313 -12 ulaw - 3 - 1 2 2 1 313 -12 alaw - 3 1 - 2 2 1 313 -12 g726 - 3 2 2 - 2 1 313 -12 adpcm - 3 2 2 2 - 1 313 -12 slin - 2 1 1 1 1 - 212 -11
Re: [asterisk-users] intel vs amd motherboards
Patrick wrote: snip AMD's Opteron has more FPU power than Intel. FPU power is needed when you do a lot of transcoding. So there is a difference besides AMD being cheaper. Regards, Patrick On Jul 5, 2006, at 6:32 PM, varun wrote: Thanks Patrick, That is useful info for future. Actually it isn't. In fact, it's not even particularly useful in the present, although it was clearly true in the very recent past... These kind of processor comparisons need to be updated often, as the the chips certainly are... Marty ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [asterisk-users] intel vs amd motherboards
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-users- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 11:00 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] intel vs amd motherboards If you want to handle, lets say 1000 calls or more at the same time, you should of course use a better processor. In my opinion, it doesn't matter whether you use Intel or AMD, because you said it will be a small Asterisk. In the world of asterisk...Intel or AMD really doesn't make a difference However AMD can do more for less money... I think you should concentrate more on a descent mainboard for whichever powerplant you chose to shove in it... Due to the recent nightmares I've had with the Asus K8N and the Dell PowerEdge 830, recommendations here would be greatly appreciated. What board, what interfaces (digium/sangoma) and results as well as caveats. Andrew ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] intel vs amd motherboards
I have recently build 2 machines, one with an Intel Pentium Dual Core CPU, and one SATA HDD, and the other with a single AMD 64 bit CPU, and a RAID 1 w 2 SATA HDD. Both costed the same even though the AMD had 2 HDDs. Here are the show translations from both: Intel Dual Core machine: pbx*CLI show translation Translation times between formats (in milliseconds) Source Format (Rows) Destination Format(Columns) g723 gsm ulaw alaw g726 adpcm slin lpc10 g729 speex ilbc g723 - - - - - - - - - - - gsm - - 2 2 2 2 1 517 -17 ulaw - 2 - 1 2 2 1 517 -17 alaw - 2 1 - 2 2 1 517 -17 g726 - 2 2 2 - 2 1 517 -17 adpcm - 2 2 2 2 - 1 517 -17 slin - 1 1 1 1 1 - 416 -16 lpc10 - 3 3 3 3 3 2 -18 -18 g729 - 4 4 4 4 4 3 7 - -19 speex - - - - - - - - - - - ilbc - 3 3 3 3 3 2 618 - - AMD 64 bit machine: pbx*CLI show translation Translation times between formats (in milliseconds) Source Format (Rows) Destination Format(Columns) g723 gsm ulaw alaw g726 adpcm slin lpc10 g729 speex ilbc g723 - - - - - - - - - - - gsm - - 2 2 2 2 1 313 -12 ulaw - 3 - 1 2 2 1 313 -12 alaw - 3 1 - 2 2 1 313 -12 g726 - 3 2 2 - 2 1 313 -12 adpcm - 3 2 2 2 - 1 313 -12 slin - 2 1 1 1 1 - 212 -11 lpc10 - 3 2 2 2 2 1 -13 -12 g729 - 4 3 3 3 3 2 4 - -13 speex - - - - - - - - - - - ilbc - 4 3 3 3 3 2 414 - - This shows that the AMD 64 bit is worth much more than just the price difference. On 7/6/06, Andrew Kirch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-users- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 11:00 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] intel vs amd motherboards If you want to handle, lets say 1000 calls or more at the same time, you should of course use a better processor. In my opinion, it doesn't matter whether you use Intel or AMD, because you said it will be a small Asterisk. In the world of asterisk...Intel or AMD really doesn't make a difference However AMD can do more for less money... I think you should concentrate more on a descent mainboard for whichever powerplant you chose to shove in it... Due to the recent nightmares I've had with the Asus K8N and the Dell PowerEdge 830, recommendations here would be greatly appreciated. What board, what interfaces (digium/sangoma) and results as well as caveats. Andrew ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [asterisk-users] intel vs amd motherboards
Hi CF, please could you to include CPUs specs, thanks in advance. Fabio -Mensaje original- De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] nombre de C F Enviado el: Jueves, 06 de Julio de 2006 04:32 p.m. Para: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Asunto: Re: [asterisk-users] intel vs amd motherboards I have recently build 2 machines, one with an Intel Pentium Dual Core CPU, and one SATA HDD, and the other with a single AMD 64 bit CPU, and a RAID 1 w 2 SATA HDD. Both costed the same even though the AMD had 2 HDDs. Here are the show translations from both: Intel Dual Core machine: pbx*CLI show translation Translation times between formats (in milliseconds) Source Format (Rows) Destination Format(Columns) g723 gsm ulaw alaw g726 adpcm slin lpc10 g729 speex ilbc g723 - - - - - - - - - - - gsm - - 2 2 2 2 1 517 -17 ulaw - 2 - 1 2 2 1 517 -17 alaw - 2 1 - 2 2 1 517 -17 g726 - 2 2 2 - 2 1 517 -17 adpcm - 2 2 2 2 - 1 517 -17 slin - 1 1 1 1 1 - 416 -16 lpc10 - 3 3 3 3 3 2 -18 -18 g729 - 4 4 4 4 4 3 7 - -19 speex - - - - - - - - - - - ilbc - 3 3 3 3 3 2 618 - - AMD 64 bit machine: pbx*CLI show translation Translation times between formats (in milliseconds) Source Format (Rows) Destination Format(Columns) g723 gsm ulaw alaw g726 adpcm slin lpc10 g729 speex ilbc g723 - - - - - - - - - - - gsm - - 2 2 2 2 1 313 -12 ulaw - 3 - 1 2 2 1 313 -12 alaw - 3 1 - 2 2 1 313 -12 g726 - 3 2 2 - 2 1 313 -12 adpcm - 3 2 2 2 - 1 313 -12 slin - 2 1 1 1 1 - 212 -11 lpc10 - 3 2 2 2 2 1 -13 -12 g729 - 4 3 3 3 3 2 4 - -13 speex - - - - - - - - - - - ilbc - 4 3 3 3 3 2 414 - - This shows that the AMD 64 bit is worth much more than just the price difference. On 7/6/06, Andrew Kirch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-users- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 11:00 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] intel vs amd motherboards If you want to handle, lets say 1000 calls or more at the same time, you should of course use a better processor. In my opinion, it doesn't matter whether you use Intel or AMD, because you said it will be a small Asterisk. In the world of asterisk...Intel or AMD really doesn't make a difference However AMD can do more for less money... I think you should concentrate more on a descent mainboard for whichever powerplant you chose to shove in it... Due to the recent nightmares I've had with the Asus K8N and the Dell PowerEdge 830, recommendations here would be greatly appreciated. What board, what interfaces (digium/sangoma) and results as well as caveats. Andrew ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] intel vs amd motherboards
cat /proc/cpuinfo on amd: cat /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 vendor_id : AuthenticAMD cpu family : 15 model : 47 model name : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+ stepping: 2 cpu MHz : 2000.000 cache size : 512 KB fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 1 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt lm 3dnowext 3dnow pni lahf_lm bogomips: 4025.55 TLB size: 1024 4K pages clflush size: 64 cache_alignment : 64 address sizes : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual power management: ts fid vid ttp tm stc cat /proc/cpuinfo on intel: cat /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family : 15 model : 6 model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 2.80GHz stepping: 2 cpu MHz : 2800.353 cache size : 2048 KB physical id : 0 siblings: 2 core id : 0 cpu cores : 2 fdiv_bug: no hlt_bug : no f00f_bug: no coma_bug: no fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 6 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe nx lm pni monitor ds_cpl vmx cid cx16 xtpr lahf_lm bogomips: 5609.03 processor : 1 vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family : 15 model : 6 model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 2.80GHz stepping: 2 cpu MHz : 2800.353 cache size : 2048 KB physical id : 0 siblings: 2 core id : 1 cpu cores : 2 fdiv_bug: no hlt_bug : no f00f_bug: no coma_bug: no fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 6 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe nx lm pni monitor ds_cpl vmx cid cx16 xtpr lahf_lm bogomips: 5600.89 On 7/6/06, Fabio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi CF, please could you to include CPUs specs, thanks in advance. Fabio -Mensaje original- De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] nombre de C F Enviado el: Jueves, 06 de Julio de 2006 04:32 p.m. Para: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Asunto: Re: [asterisk-users] intel vs amd motherboards I have recently build 2 machines, one with an Intel Pentium Dual Core CPU, and one SATA HDD, and the other with a single AMD 64 bit CPU, and a RAID 1 w 2 SATA HDD. Both costed the same even though the AMD had 2 HDDs. Here are the show translations from both: Intel Dual Core machine: pbx*CLI show translation Translation times between formats (in milliseconds) Source Format (Rows) Destination Format(Columns) g723 gsm ulaw alaw g726 adpcm slin lpc10 g729 speex ilbc g723 - - - - - - - - - - - gsm - - 2 2 2 2 1 517 -17 ulaw - 2 - 1 2 2 1 517 -17 alaw - 2 1 - 2 2 1 517 -17 g726 - 2 2 2 - 2 1 517 -17 adpcm - 2 2 2 2 - 1 517 -17 slin - 1 1 1 1 1 - 416 -16 lpc10 - 3 3 3 3 3 2 -18 -18 g729 - 4 4 4 4 4 3 7 - -19 speex - - - - - - - - - - - ilbc - 3 3 3 3 3 2 618 - - AMD 64 bit machine: pbx*CLI show translation Translation times between formats (in milliseconds) Source Format (Rows) Destination Format(Columns) g723 gsm ulaw alaw g726 adpcm slin lpc10 g729 speex ilbc g723 - - - - - - - - - - - gsm - - 2 2 2 2 1 313 -12 ulaw - 3 - 1 2 2 1 313 -12 alaw - 3 1 - 2 2 1 313 -12 g726 - 3 2 2 - 2 1 313 -12 adpcm - 3 2 2 2 - 1 313 -12 slin - 2 1 1 1 1 - 212 -11 lpc10 - 3 2 2 2 2 1 -13 -12 g729 - 4 3 3 3 3 2 4 - -13 speex - - - - - - - - - - - ilbc - 4 3 3 3 3 2 414 - - This shows that the AMD 64 bit is worth much more than just the price difference. On 7/6/06, Andrew Kirch [EMAIL
Re: [asterisk-users] intel vs amd motherboards
C F wrote: cat /proc/cpuinfo on amd: cat /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 vendor_id : AuthenticAMD cpu family : 15 model : 47 model name : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+ stepping: 2 cpu MHz : 2000.000 cache size : 512 KB fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 1 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt lm 3dnowext 3dnow pni lahf_lm bogomips: 4025.55 TLB size: 1024 4K pages clflush size: 64 cache_alignment : 64 address sizes : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual power management: ts fid vid ttp tm stc cat /proc/cpuinfo on intel: cat /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family : 15 model : 6 model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 2.80GHz stepping: 2 cpu MHz : 2800.353 cache size : 2048 KB physical id : 0 siblings: 2 core id : 0 cpu cores : 2 fdiv_bug: no hlt_bug : no f00f_bug: no coma_bug: no fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 6 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe nx lm pni monitor ds_cpl vmx cid cx16 xtpr lahf_lm bogomips: 5609.03 processor : 1 vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family : 15 model : 6 model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 2.80GHz stepping: 2 cpu MHz : 2800.353 cache size : 2048 KB physical id : 0 siblings: 2 core id : 1 cpu cores : 2 fdiv_bug: no hlt_bug : no f00f_bug: no coma_bug: no fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 6 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe nx lm pni monitor ds_cpl vmx cid cx16 xtpr lahf_lm bogomips: 5600.89 On 7/6/06, Fabio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi CF, please could you to include CPUs specs, thanks in advance. Fabio -Mensaje original- De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] nombre de C F Enviado el: Jueves, 06 de Julio de 2006 04:32 p.m. Para: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Asunto: Re: [asterisk-users] intel vs amd motherboards I have recently build 2 machines, one with an Intel Pentium Dual Core CPU, and one SATA HDD, and the other with a single AMD 64 bit CPU, and a RAID 1 w 2 SATA HDD. Both costed the same even though the AMD had 2 HDDs. Here are the show translations from both: Intel Dual Core machine: pbx*CLI show translation Translation times between formats (in milliseconds) Source Format (Rows) Destination Format(Columns) g723 gsm ulaw alaw g726 adpcm slin lpc10 g729 speex ilbc g723 - - - - - - - - - - - gsm - - 2 2 2 2 1 517 -17 ulaw - 2 - 1 2 2 1 517 -17 alaw - 2 1 - 2 2 1 517 -17 g726 - 2 2 2 - 2 1 517 -17 adpcm - 2 2 2 2 - 1 517 -17 slin - 1 1 1 1 1 - 416 -16 lpc10 - 3 3 3 3 3 2 -18 -18 g729 - 4 4 4 4 4 3 7 - -19 speex - - - - - - - - - - - ilbc - 3 3 3 3 3 2 618 - - AMD 64 bit machine: pbx*CLI show translation Translation times between formats (in milliseconds) Source Format (Rows) Destination Format(Columns) g723 gsm ulaw alaw g726 adpcm slin lpc10 g729 speex ilbc g723 - - - - - - - - - - - gsm - - 2 2 2 2 1 313 -12 ulaw - 3 - 1 2 2 1 313 -12 alaw - 3 1 - 2 2 1 313 -12 g726 - 3 2 2 - 2 1 313 -12 adpcm - 3 2 2 2 - 1 313 -12 slin - 2 1 1 1 1 - 212 -11 lpc10 - 3 2 2 2 2 1 -13 -12 g729 - 4 3 3 3 3 2 4 - -13 speex - - - - - - - - - - - ilbc - 4 3 3 3 3 2 414 - - This shows that the AMD 64 bit is worth much more than just the price
Re: [asterisk-users] intel vs amd motherboards
Hello Varun, varun wrote: Hello, I want to setup a small asterisk PBX. Should I use an Intel based system or AMD based system ? Which platform is better suited if at all there is difference ? And if I were to use AMD platform then any issues if I were to use a 64bit arch. Most good boards seem to be for 64bit. My distros in both case would be CentOS. Thanks Varun Asterisk works on a i486 with 100MHz. If you want to handle, lets say 1000 calls or more at the same time, you should of course use a better processor. In my opinion, it doesn't matter whether you use Intel or AMD, because you said it will be a small Asterisk. Kai ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] intel vs amd motherboards
If you want to handle, lets say 1000 calls or more at the same time, you should of course use a better processor. In my opinion, it doesn't matter whether you use Intel or AMD, because you said it will be a small Asterisk. In the world of asterisk...Intel or AMD really doesn't make a difference However AMD can do more for less money... I think you should concentrate more on a descent mainboard for whichever powerplant you chose to shove in it... - Original Message - From: Kai Fürstenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 10:47 AM Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] intel vs amd motherboards Hello Varun, varun wrote: Hello, I want to setup a small asterisk PBX. Should I use an Intel based system or AMD based system ? Which platform is better suited if at all there is difference ? And if I were to use AMD platform then any issues if I were to use a 64bit arch. Most good boards seem to be for 64bit. My distros in both case would be CentOS. Thanks Varun Asterisk works on a i486 with 100MHz. If you want to handle, lets say 1000 calls or more at the same time, you should of course use a better processor. In my opinion, it doesn't matter whether you use Intel or AMD, because you said it will be a small Asterisk. Kai ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.9/382 - Release Date: 7/4/2006 ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] intel vs amd motherboards
Don wrote: If you want to handle, lets say 1000 calls or more at the same time, you should of course use a better processor. In my opinion, it doesn't matter whether you use Intel or AMD, because you said it will be a small Asterisk. In the world of asterisk...Intel or AMD really doesn't make a difference However AMD can do more for less money... Not always: Dempsey 2.67 GHz 771 XEON is cheaper than AMD Opteron 244. :-) I think you should concentrate more on a descent mainboard for whichever powerplant you chose to shove in it... Confirmed... Kai ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] intel vs amd motherboards
Thanks Don, Just read something about asterisk sound and mmx working better. So I got a little confused. Varun On Wed, 2006-07-05 at 11:00 -0400, Don wrote: If you want to handle, lets say 1000 calls or more at the same time, you should of course use a better processor. In my opinion, it doesn't matter whether you use Intel or AMD, because you said it will be a small Asterisk. In the world of asterisk...Intel or AMD really doesn't make a difference However AMD can do more for less money... I think you should concentrate more on a descent mainboard for whichever powerplant you chose to shove in it... - Original Message - From: Kai Fürstenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 10:47 AM Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] intel vs amd motherboards Hello Varun, varun wrote: Hello, I want to setup a small asterisk PBX. Should I use an Intel based system or AMD based system ? Which platform is better suited if at all there is difference ? And if I were to use AMD platform then any issues if I were to use a 64bit arch. Most good boards seem to be for 64bit. My distros in both case would be CentOS. Thanks Varun Asterisk works on a i486 with 100MHz. If you want to handle, lets say 1000 calls or more at the same time, you should of course use a better processor. In my opinion, it doesn't matter whether you use Intel or AMD, because you said it will be a small Asterisk. Kai ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.9/382 - Release Date: 7/4/2006 ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] intel vs amd motherboards
Yeah I have never had any problem with sounds and AMD... I am not a big 64bit fan yet though...and still don't use 64bit versions of linux...even with 64bit processors... I have always ran into dependency problems a lot...and it is just too much of a hassle...I will give it another year probably before we switch everything to 64bit...the minimal gain (especially when it comes to asterisk) vs 32bit...no hassle...just isn't worth it to me heh... - Original Message - From: varun [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] intel vs amd motherboards Thanks Don, Just read something about asterisk sound and mmx working better. So I got a little confused. Varun On Wed, 2006-07-05 at 11:00 -0400, Don wrote: If you want to handle, lets say 1000 calls or more at the same time, you should of course use a better processor. In my opinion, it doesn't matter whether you use Intel or AMD, because you said it will be a small Asterisk. In the world of asterisk...Intel or AMD really doesn't make a difference However AMD can do more for less money... I think you should concentrate more on a descent mainboard for whichever powerplant you chose to shove in it... - Original Message - From: Kai Fürstenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 10:47 AM Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] intel vs amd motherboards Hello Varun, varun wrote: Hello, I want to setup a small asterisk PBX. Should I use an Intel based system or AMD based system ? Which platform is better suited if at all there is difference ? And if I were to use AMD platform then any issues if I were to use a 64bit arch. Most good boards seem to be for 64bit. My distros in both case would be CentOS. Thanks Varun Asterisk works on a i486 with 100MHz. If you want to handle, lets say 1000 calls or more at the same time, you should of course use a better processor. In my opinion, it doesn't matter whether you use Intel or AMD, because you said it will be a small Asterisk. Kai ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.9/382 - Release Date: 7/4/2006 ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.9/382 - Release Date: 7/4/2006 ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] intel vs amd motherboards
Thanks Kai, Wether 32 bit or 64bit does it make a difference for asterisk ? Varun On Wed, 2006-07-05 at 16:47 +0200, Kai Fürstenberg wrote: Hello Varun, varun wrote: Hello, I want to setup a small asterisk PBX. Should I use an Intel based system or AMD based system ? Which platform is better suited if at all there is difference ? And if I were to use AMD platform then any issues if I were to use a 64bit arch. Most good boards seem to be for 64bit. My distros in both case would be CentOS. Thanks Varun Asterisk works on a i486 with 100MHz. If you want to handle, lets say 1000 calls or more at the same time, you should of course use a better processor. In my opinion, it doesn't matter whether you use Intel or AMD, because you said it will be a small Asterisk. Kai ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] intel vs amd motherboards
On Wed, 2006-07-05 at 11:00 -0400, Don wrote: If you want to handle, lets say 1000 calls or more at the same time, you should of course use a better processor. In my opinion, it doesn't matter whether you use Intel or AMD, because you said it will be a small Asterisk. In the world of asterisk...Intel or AMD really doesn't make a difference However AMD can do more for less money... AMD's Opteron has more FPU power than Intel. FPU power is needed when you do a lot of transcoding. So there is a difference besides AMD being cheaper. Regards, Patrick ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] intel vs amd motherboards
Thanks again Don, That was useful. Varun On Wed, 2006-07-05 at 12:12 -0400, Don wrote: Yeah I have never had any problem with sounds and AMD... I am not a big 64bit fan yet though...and still don't use 64bit versions of linux...even with 64bit processors... I have always ran into dependency problems a lot...and it is just too much of a hassle...I will give it another year probably before we switch everything to 64bit...the minimal gain (especially when it comes to asterisk) vs 32bit...no hassle...just isn't worth it to me heh... - Original Message - From: varun [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] intel vs amd motherboards Thanks Don, Just read something about asterisk sound and mmx working better. So I got a little confused. Varun On Wed, 2006-07-05 at 11:00 -0400, Don wrote: If you want to handle, lets say 1000 calls or more at the same time, you should of course use a better processor. In my opinion, it doesn't matter whether you use Intel or AMD, because you said it will be a small Asterisk. In the world of asterisk...Intel or AMD really doesn't make a difference However AMD can do more for less money... I think you should concentrate more on a descent mainboard for whichever powerplant you chose to shove in it... - Original Message - From: Kai Fürstenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 10:47 AM Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] intel vs amd motherboards Hello Varun, varun wrote: Hello, I want to setup a small asterisk PBX. Should I use an Intel based system or AMD based system ? Which platform is better suited if at all there is difference ? And if I were to use AMD platform then any issues if I were to use a 64bit arch. Most good boards seem to be for 64bit. My distros in both case would be CentOS. Thanks Varun Asterisk works on a i486 with 100MHz. If you want to handle, lets say 1000 calls or more at the same time, you should of course use a better processor. In my opinion, it doesn't matter whether you use Intel or AMD, because you said it will be a small Asterisk. Kai ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.9/382 - Release Date: 7/4/2006 ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.9/382 - Release Date: 7/4/2006 ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] intel vs amd motherboards
Thanks Patrick, That is useful info for future. Varun On Wed, 2006-07-05 at 19:15 +0200, Patrick wrote: On Wed, 2006-07-05 at 11:00 -0400, Don wrote: If you want to handle, lets say 1000 calls or more at the same time, you should of course use a better processor. In my opinion, it doesn't matter whether you use Intel or AMD, because you said it will be a small Asterisk. In the world of asterisk...Intel or AMD really doesn't make a difference However AMD can do more for less money... AMD's Opteron has more FPU power than Intel. FPU power is needed when you do a lot of transcoding. So there is a difference besides AMD being cheaper. Regards, Patrick ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
