Re: [asterisk-users] Nightly tarballs, would you use them?

2008-01-20 Thread Per Jessen
Tzafrir Cohen wrote:

>> If we had a specific problem we were trying to
>> fix, I would very likely grab the latest tarball and try it out.
> 
> The latest nightly tarball is not the latest SVN. Some problems may
> have been fixed since.

Then I'll wait for the next one :-)

> Also, if your timezone is of the US, the nightly tarball may come in
> the middle of your work day. Less of an issue for Europeans. More of
> an issue for Indians and farther east.

I don't think the time of the daily/nightly/afternoonly tarball is of
much importance. 



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Re: [asterisk-users] Nightly tarballs, would you use them?

2008-01-19 Thread Per Jessen
Russell Bryant wrote:

> Greetings,
> 
> During the past week, there have been some requests for nightly
> tarballs to help making testing new Asterisk code easier.  There was
> some debate as to whether they would be useful.  The reason that they
> may not be useful is  because you can get equivalent access to new
> code just by accessing the subversion repository directly.  However,
> for one reason or another, some people would prefer to have a tarball.
> 
> If this was available, would you be interested in it?

On occasion, yes. 

I think nightly tarballs could be quite useful.  Whilst it's easy to
check out from subversion directly, a nightly tarball provides a
specific point of reference which can be helpful when trying to
identify a problem.  If we had a specific problem we were trying to
fix, I would very likely grab the latest tarball and try it out. 



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Re: [asterisk-users] Nightly tarballs, would you use them?

2008-01-19 Thread MatsK
Per Jessen wrote:
> Russell Bryant wrote:
> 
>> Greetings,
>>
>> During the past week, there have been some requests for nightly
>> tarballs to help making testing new Asterisk code easier.  There was
>> some debate as to whether they would be useful.  The reason that they
>> may not be useful is  because you can get equivalent access to new
>> code just by accessing the subversion repository directly.  However,
>> for one reason or another, some people would prefer to have a tarball.
>>
>> If this was available, would you be interested in it?
> 
> On occasion, yes. 
> 
> I think nightly tarballs could be quite useful.  Whilst it's easy to
> check out from subversion directly, a nightly tarball provides a
> specific point of reference which can be helpful when trying to
> identify a problem.  If we had a specific problem we were trying to
> fix, I would very likely grab the latest tarball and try it out. 
> 
> 
> 
> /Per Jessen, Zürich


In subversion can you specify what revision you want to check out so it 
is equally easy to know what version you want to test.

I can agree that a nightly tarball is a bit more spoon feeding for none 
developer people.

And to create a nightly tarball is a script and a cron jobb so the 
resources to maintain it should be low.


And for the poll, I would unlikely use the tarball.


/Mats


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Re: [asterisk-users] Nightly tarballs, would you use them?

2008-01-19 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 11:23:44AM +0100, Per Jessen wrote:
> Russell Bryant wrote:
> 
> > Greetings,
> > 
> > During the past week, there have been some requests for nightly
> > tarballs to help making testing new Asterisk code easier.  There was
> > some debate as to whether they would be useful.  The reason that they
> > may not be useful is  because you can get equivalent access to new
> > code just by accessing the subversion repository directly.  However,
> > for one reason or another, some people would prefer to have a tarball.
> > 
> > If this was available, would you be interested in it?
> 
> On occasion, yes. 
> 
> I think nightly tarballs could be quite useful.  Whilst it's easy to
> check out from subversion directly, a nightly tarball provides a
> specific point of reference which can be helpful when trying to
> identify a problem.  

  svn co -r1  http://svn.digium.com/svn/asterisk/trunk asterisk-r1000
  svn co -r'{2008-01-18}'  http://svn.digium.com/svn/asterisk/trunk 
asterisk-20080118

(use 'svn update' with the same -r switch in an existing copy, of
course)

http://svnbook.red-bean.com/en/1.4/svn.tour.revs.specifiers.html#svn.tour.revs.dates

> If we had a specific problem we were trying to
> fix, I would very likely grab the latest tarball and try it out. 

The latest nightly tarball is not the latest SVN. Some problems may have
been fixed since.

  svn co http://svn.digium.com/svn/asterisk/trunk asterisk-latest

Also, if your timezone is of the US, the nightly tarball may come in the
middle of your work day. Less of an issue for Europeans. More of an
issue for Indians and farther east.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Nightly tarballs, would you use them?

2008-01-19 Thread Matthew Rubenstein
I'd be even more likely to use nightly (or other periodic snapshot,
even weekly) .deb packages. Because then I could use APT to notify me
and manage them. Especially if they included a changelog (which APT
reports), even if that changelog were only names of files/modules
touched since the last one.


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> Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 03:21:54 -0600
> From: Russell Bryant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [asterisk-users] Nightly tarballs, would you use them?
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> 
> Greetings,
> 
> During the past week, there have been some requests for nightly
> tarballs to help
> making testing new Asterisk code easier.  There was some debate as to
> whether
> they would be useful.  The reason that they may not be useful is
> because you can
> get equivalent access to new code just by accessing the subversion
> repository
> directly.  However, for one reason or another, some people would
> prefer to have
> a tarball.
> 
> If this was available, would you be interested in it?
> 
> If you just want to say "yes or no" for the sake of the poll, fell
> free to
> respond to me off-list.  However, also fell free to respond here if
> you have
> more verbose comments on the topic that you would like to share.
> 
> -- 
> Russell Bryant
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Re: [asterisk-users] Nightly tarballs, would you use them?

2008-01-19 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 03:51:43PM -0500, Matthew Rubenstein wrote:
>   I'd be even more likely to use nightly (or other periodic snapshot,
> even weekly) .deb packages. Because then I could use APT to notify me
> and manage them. Especially if they included a changelog (which APT
> reports), even if that changelog were only names of files/modules
> touched since the last one.

Binary packages are even more distro-specific.
If you're interested in automating the build of a nightly deb yourself,
I'd be happy to assist. We already do quite similar things for building
asterisk from (packager's) svn.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Nightly tarballs, would you use them?

2008-01-19 Thread Russell Bryant
Matthew Rubenstein wrote:
>   I'd be even more likely to use nightly (or other periodic snapshot,
> even weekly) .deb packages. Because then I could use APT to notify me
> and manage them. Especially if they included a changelog (which APT
> reports), even if that changelog were only names of files/modules
> touched since the last one.

Have you tried the checkinstall app?  It's a quick way to make a deb out
of a tarball install.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Nightly tarballs, would you use them?

2008-01-20 Thread Michiel van Baak
On 20:43, Sat 19 Jan 08, Russell Bryant wrote:
> Matthew Rubenstein wrote:
> > I'd be even more likely to use nightly (or other periodic snapshot,
> > even weekly) .deb packages. Because then I could use APT to notify me
> > and manage them. Especially if they included a changelog (which APT
> > reports), even if that changelog were only names of files/modules
> > touched since the last one.
> 
> Have you tried the checkinstall app?  It's a quick way to make a deb out
> of a tarball install.

or svn checkout.
It will track make install and create a deb from it.

Besides .deb it also supports .rpm and .tgz (for rpm and
installpkg)

It's a nice tool for creating a package to distribute to all
your machines.

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