Re: [asterisk-users] OT: certificate for softphone

2010-11-13 Thread Olle E. Johansson

10 nov 2010 kl. 21.48 skrev Hans Witvliet:

 On Wed, 2010-11-10 at 08:38 +0100, Olle E. Johansson wrote:
 6 nov 2010 kl. 15.30 skrev Hans Witvliet:
 
 Hi all,
 
 As stated in the subject, slightly off-topic, as it is not directly a
 Asterisk issue, but more SIP in general
 
 Because security in general, and specifically identification becomes
 more and more a subject for more concern, and Asterisk is capable of
 doing sip/TLS, i was wondering what more could be done to improve
 security.
 
 Specially softphones, might it be possible to employ etokens or
 smartcards for holding the certificates needed by TLS?
 
 Done before?
 
 In the SIP protocol there is support for TLS client certificates, much like 
 in HTTP. 
 
 Asterisk doesn't support it. You need to put a SIP proxy like Kamailio in 
 front of Asterisk to get this kind of strong authentication.
 
 /O
 Am i that mistaken?
 
 I got the impression** that sip-registration of a phone could be done in
 the same way as client-authentication on apache:
 On the server-side you got the certificate holding your public key which
 is signed by a trusted third party (the CA), while you hold your private
 key on a smartcard or token. If you start your browser you are prompted
 for your pin-code.
 
 I was just hoping that there would be a softphone that could work the
 same way, two-factor authentication.
 
I haven't seen any soft clients implementing this. Bria/Eyebeam may have it, 
but they've removed all TLS options from the GUI.

As I said, the SIP protocol supports it. Kamailio supports it on the server 
side. Now we need clients that supports it.

Now we're talking about authentication. For identity assurance, there's another 
set of standards called SIP Identity where you use TLS to sign your identity.
The TLS is just between the phone and the first server. Identity is supposed to 
be something that follows the call to the callee.

/O


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Re: [asterisk-users] OT: certificate for softphone

2010-11-10 Thread Hans Witvliet
On Wed, 2010-11-10 at 08:38 +0100, Olle E. Johansson wrote:
 6 nov 2010 kl. 15.30 skrev Hans Witvliet:
 
  Hi all,
  
  As stated in the subject, slightly off-topic, as it is not directly a
  Asterisk issue, but more SIP in general
  
  Because security in general, and specifically identification becomes
  more and more a subject for more concern, and Asterisk is capable of
  doing sip/TLS, i was wondering what more could be done to improve
  security.
  
  Specially softphones, might it be possible to employ etokens or
  smartcards for holding the certificates needed by TLS?
  
  Done before?
 
 In the SIP protocol there is support for TLS client certificates, much like 
 in HTTP. 
 
 Asterisk doesn't support it. You need to put a SIP proxy like Kamailio in 
 front of Asterisk to get this kind of strong authentication.
 
 /O
Am i that mistaken?

I got the impression** that sip-registration of a phone could be done in
the same way as client-authentication on apache:
On the server-side you got the certificate holding your public key which
is signed by a trusted third party (the CA), while you hold your private
key on a smartcard or token. If you start your browser you are prompted
for your pin-code.

I was just hoping that there would be a softphone that could work the
same way, two-factor authentication.

Hans

**
http://www.remiphilippe.fr/2010/05/30/sips-on-asterisk-sip-security-with-tls/

http://www.sipring.ru/overview/func-asterisk/100-asterisk-tls-transport.html



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Re: [asterisk-users] OT: certificate for softphone

2010-11-09 Thread Olle E. Johansson

6 nov 2010 kl. 15.30 skrev Hans Witvliet:

 Hi all,
 
 As stated in the subject, slightly off-topic, as it is not directly a
 Asterisk issue, but more SIP in general
 
 Because security in general, and specifically identification becomes
 more and more a subject for more concern, and Asterisk is capable of
 doing sip/TLS, i was wondering what more could be done to improve
 security.
 
 Specially softphones, might it be possible to employ etokens or
 smartcards for holding the certificates needed by TLS?
 
 Done before?

In the SIP protocol there is support for TLS client certificates, much like in 
HTTP. 

Asterisk doesn't support it. You need to put a SIP proxy like Kamailio in front 
of Asterisk to get this kind of strong authentication.

/O
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