Re: [asterisk-users] SIP client on a mobile?
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 2:27 AM, Per Jessen p...@computer.org wrote: Steve Totaro wrote: Just use a SIP client on your phone. Many providers have multiple failover paths for inbound calls. This thread morphed from a nice home phone system into something completely different. Yup. For my situation, DISA is pointless except for road warriors who call all over the world, from anywhere, they can call into the corp system, get dialtone and skip the whole process of expense reports for work related calls. It makes things less complex, not more. Using DISA also means getting a corp caller id, not a mobile. Yes, spoofing provides that. Maybe if you explain your situation and how your plan works, but for me, personally, DISA would be a an added cost and complication. The only purpose I can think of for myself could be accomplished by spoofing caller id. How is that done from a mobile? Sofar that has been my main reason for using DISA - cost is not a real issue. SIP client. Spoof card, yes it is DISA, but you don't have to do anything but use the card. Steve, even if I could get SIP clients for our phones, doesn't this mean using a data connection rather than just voice? That would make it a lot pricier than the current setup with DISA (which is largely free). /Per Jessen, Zürich A Wifi connection? I guess that wifi is not like it is here. I can get on highspeed wifi anywhere I go in the DC Metro area for free. Just driving around, there is always an open access point. When driving around, I pick up thousands of APs in a couple miles and don't have any protection at all. I would suspect that most road warriors have high speed data needs? Not sure what business you are in, but having fast internet (relatively speaking) is a must to do work. I am not saying to use the data supplied from phone, if that is what you are thinking. If your phones don't have SIP, then use callback. You call your company, go through whatever you seutp in the dialplan, and the phone system calls you back as well as calling the other party. You edited out much of the context of the conversation to support your side. I don't play games like that... SIP client on the phone was an option. Was the original question about using DISA to save money? Yes it was. Now you are stating that it is largely free. Callback is a great solution when outbound cell phone calls quite a bit more than your cutrate VoIP provider. As I said, many countries do not charge for inbound calls. I am still clueless what your point is/was but if it is almost free then, stick with it. Still clueless why you posted if it almost free. Thanks, Steve Totaro -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] SIP client on a mobile?
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 3:06 AM, Steve Totaro stot...@totarotechnologies.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 2:27 AM, Per Jessen p...@computer.org wrote: Steve Totaro wrote: Just use a SIP client on your phone. Many providers have multiple failover paths for inbound calls. This thread morphed from a nice home phone system into something completely different. Yup. For my situation, DISA is pointless except for road warriors who call all over the world, from anywhere, they can call into the corp system, get dialtone and skip the whole process of expense reports for work related calls. It makes things less complex, not more. Using DISA also means getting a corp caller id, not a mobile. Yes, spoofing provides that. Maybe if you explain your situation and how your plan works, but for me, personally, DISA would be a an added cost and complication. The only purpose I can think of for myself could be accomplished by spoofing caller id. How is that done from a mobile? Sofar that has been my main reason for using DISA - cost is not a real issue. SIP client. Spoof card, yes it is DISA, but you don't have to do anything but use the card. Steve, even if I could get SIP clients for our phones, doesn't this mean using a data connection rather than just voice? That would make it a lot pricier than the current setup with DISA (which is largely free). /Per Jessen, Zürich A Wifi connection? I guess that wifi is not like it is here. I can get on highspeed wifi anywhere I go in the DC Metro area for free. Just driving around, there is always an open access point. When driving around, I pick up thousands of APs in a couple miles and don't have any protection at all. I would suspect that most road warriors have high speed data needs? Not sure what business you are in, but having fast internet (relatively speaking) is a must to do work. I am not saying to use the data supplied from phone, if that is what you are thinking. If your phones don't have SIP, then use callback. You call your company, go through whatever you seutp in the dialplan, and the phone system calls you back as well as calling the other party. You edited out much of the context of the conversation to support your side. I don't play games like that... SIP client on the phone was an option. Was the original question about using DISA to save money? Yes it was. Now you are stating that it is largely free. Callback is a great solution when outbound cell phone calls quite a bit more than your cutrate VoIP provider. As I said, many countries do not charge for inbound calls. I am still clueless what your point is/was but if it is almost free then, stick with it. Still clueless why you posted if it almost free. Thanks, Steve Totaro I am not sure why people try to prove me wrong, but they do. On rare occasions, I am wrong, I am also big enough to admit it. To answer your question, and get on the same terms, VoIP (or data as you prefer) would probably be cheaper. Isn't that the whole reason behind VoIP? You say voice, does that mean your provider's voice service? Depending on the cost of inbound and out abound calls on a cell are the key here. Is it next to nothing to call a foreign country from your cell? Is it much more expensive than rates at the office. Generally, I think outbound calls from an office are much lower than cell phone charges. I was paying a $40k plus weekly for long distance calls from Iraq to mostly Fiji, Uganda, Peru. That was with VoicePulse, all 703 DIDs around the world. Voicepulse gave me great rates because $40k a week is not chump change. I wonder what the cost of cell phone calls would amount to? My international rates for outbound cell phone calls are beyond a rip-off. Thanks, Steve Totaro -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] SIP client on a mobile?
Steve Totaro wrote: Steve, even if I could get SIP clients for our phones, doesn't this mean using a data connection rather than just voice? That would make it a lot pricier than the current setup with DISA (which is largely free). /Per Jessen, Zürich A Wifi connection? I guess that wifi is not like it is here. I can get on highspeed wifi anywhere I go in the DC Metro area for free. In the cities, WiFi is typically only available in restaurants and cafes (Starbucks, McDonalds etc). In the country, no wifi. Well, the odd open access point, but using it is illegal, so that's a no-go. I would suspect that most road warriors have high speed data needs? Not sure what business you are in, but having fast internet (relatively speaking) is a must to do work. I am not saying to use the data supplied from phone, if that is what you are thinking. For my company, the mobile is primarily for voice - people don't spend that much time on the road, but when they do, they still want to appear as if they're in the office. If your phones don't have SIP, then use callback. You call your company, go through whatever you seutp in the dialplan, and the phone system calls you back as well as calling the other party. You edited out much of the context of the conversation to support your side. I don't play games like that... Sorry, that wasn't my intention, I just snip out the bits that aren't relevant to a reply. SIP client on the phone was an option. Was the original question about using DISA to save money? Yes it was. Now you are stating that it is largely free. I think the OPs question was about saving money, to which I suggested using DISA - it my setup it's largely free. Callback is a great solution when outbound cell phone calls quite a bit more than your cutrate VoIP provider. As I said, many countries do not charge for inbound calls. Right. I am still clueless what your point is/was but if it is almost free then, stick with it. Still clueless why you posted if it almost free. I did not post the original question, I just responded to it. /Per Jessen, Zürich -- http://www.spamchek.com/ - your spam is our business. -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
