Re: [asterisk-users] faxing via linksys SPA3102 half page goes through
Wednesday, March 4, 2009, 5:43:13 PM, Joseph wrote: > On 03/04/09 15:56, Gergo Csibra wrote: >>Wednesday, March 4, 2009, 3:22:59 PM, Joseph wrote: >> >>> FAX Passthru Codec: G711u >> >>for me FAX works better with G711a > Can you folks compare my setting below with your settings and let me know if > something differ. > I was experimenting with echo in the past and might have triggered something > :-/ I know many settings have nothing to do with the fax but something must > have > trigger this problem, so I'm listing all the settings. Well, I use Linksys PAP2, but the settings mainly the same. > Audio Configuration > Preferred Codec:G711u > Use Pref Codec Only:No This is the only difference, I use G711a and pref codec only: yes > FAX Disable ECAN:No > How about that "FAX Disable ECAN:No" was is the default to Yes or No This was default no, and I use this setting. -- Best regards, Gergomailto:csi...@gmail.com ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] faxing via linksys SPA3102 half page goes through
Marco Signorini wrote: > Joseph wrote: > >> On 03/04/09 15:44, Marco Signorini wrote: >> >> >>> Hi Joseph. >>> I've spent some time tuning the SPA3102 FXS line input and output gain >>> and I think that this is an important variable. >>> Let's try to record incoming and outgoing fax tones with asterisk on SIP >>> channel (disabling the fax detection on SPA and sending fax inband) and >>> look at the recorded file with a wave editor (Audacity). >>> I had better results if the maximum level is near half to the full >>> dynamic. Then switch to T38, if you need it. >>> >>> >> As I remember I have experimented with gain on PSTN line as well but have >> reset back to default. >> I have: >> SPA To PSTN Gain:0 >> PSTN To SPA Gain:0 >> >> I think "0" is the default. >> >> >> > Yes, "0" is the default. > Is the fax machine connected to the FXS port or do you use the SPA3102 > only as a SIP 2 PSTN gateway? > If you use the FXS port, please take a look at the gain parameters you > can find in the "Miscellaneous" section in the "Regional" page (log in > as Administrator then switch to the "advanced" report). > > Now I've -5 as input gain and -2 as output. I don't know if this could > helps you. > > I regularly do T.38 testing against and SPA3102, and they are quite troublesome. Different FAX machines and FAX modems give very different results. If you put a much longer lead between the FAX machine and the SPA3102 you may find it works a lot better. :-\ If you turn up the gains too much you get clipping, but as long as you don't go too far it shouldn't very sensitive. Regards, Steve ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] faxing via linksys SPA3102 half page goes through
On 03/04/09 18:01, Marco Signorini wrote: >Joseph wrote: >> As I remember I have experimented with gain on PSTN line as well but have >> reset back to default. >> I have: >> SPA To PSTN Gain:0 >> PSTN To SPA Gain:0 >> >> I think "0" is the default. >> >> >Yes, "0" is the default. >Is the fax machine connected to the FXS port or do you use the SPA3102 >only as a SIP 2 PSTN gateway? >If you use the FXS port, please take a look at the gain parameters you >can find in the "Miscellaneous" section in the "Regional" page (log in >as Administrator then switch to the "advanced" report). > >Now I've -5 as input gain and -2 as output. I don't know if this could >helps you. In my case I only use SIP 2 PSTN gateway so gain most likely wouldn't help me much. I'll try to reset the unit to default setting and start from there. -- #Joseph GPG KeyID: ED0E1FB7 ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] faxing via linksys SPA3102 half page goes through
Joseph wrote: > On 03/04/09 15:44, Marco Signorini wrote: > >> Hi Joseph. >> I've spent some time tuning the SPA3102 FXS line input and output gain >> and I think that this is an important variable. >> Let's try to record incoming and outgoing fax tones with asterisk on SIP >> channel (disabling the fax detection on SPA and sending fax inband) and >> look at the recorded file with a wave editor (Audacity). >> I had better results if the maximum level is near half to the full >> dynamic. Then switch to T38, if you need it. >> > > As I remember I have experimented with gain on PSTN line as well but have > reset back to default. > I have: > SPA To PSTN Gain:0 > PSTN To SPA Gain:0 > > I think "0" is the default. > > Yes, "0" is the default. Is the fax machine connected to the FXS port or do you use the SPA3102 only as a SIP 2 PSTN gateway? If you use the FXS port, please take a look at the gain parameters you can find in the "Miscellaneous" section in the "Regional" page (log in as Administrator then switch to the "advanced" report). Now I've -5 as input gain and -2 as output. I don't know if this could helps you. Best regards, Marco Signorini === INGEGNI Tech S.r.l. http://www.ingegnitech.com ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] faxing via linksys SPA3102 half page goes through
On 03/04/09 15:44, Marco Signorini wrote: >Hi Joseph. >I've spent some time tuning the SPA3102 FXS line input and output gain >and I think that this is an important variable. >Let's try to record incoming and outgoing fax tones with asterisk on SIP >channel (disabling the fax detection on SPA and sending fax inband) and >look at the recorded file with a wave editor (Audacity). >I had better results if the maximum level is near half to the full >dynamic. Then switch to T38, if you need it. As I remember I have experimented with gain on PSTN line as well but have reset back to default. I have: SPA To PSTN Gain:0 PSTN To SPA Gain:0 I think "0" is the default. -- #Joseph ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] faxing via linksys SPA3102 half page goes through
On 03/04/09 15:56, Gergo Csibra wrote: >Wednesday, March 4, 2009, 3:22:59 PM, Joseph wrote: > >> FAX Passthru Codec: G711u > >for me FAX works better with G711a Can you folks compare my setting below with your settings and let me know if something differ. I was experimenting with echo in the past and might have triggered something :-/ I know many settings have nothing to do with the fax but something must have trigger this problem, so I'm listing all the settings. Here are my settings, Line 1 Supplementary Service Subscription: Call Waiting Serv:No Block ANC Serv:Yes Cfwd All Serv:Yes Cfwd No Ans Serv:Yes Cfwd Last Serv:Yes Accept Last Serv:Yes CID Serv:Yes Call Return Serv:Yes Call Back Serv:Yes Three Way Conf Serv:Yes Unattn Transfer Serv:Yes VMWI Serv:Yes Secure Call Serv:Yes Feature Dial Serv:Yes Block CID Serv:Yes Dist Ring Serv:No Cfwd Busy Serv:Yes Cfwd Sel Serv:Yes Block Last Serv:Yes DND Serv:Yes CWCID Serv:Yes Call Redial Serv:Yes Three Way Call Serv:Yes Attn Transfer Serv:Yes MWI Serv:Yes Speed Dial Serv:Yes Referral Serv:Yes Service Announcement Serv:No Audio Configuration Preferred Codec:G711u Use Pref Codec Only:No G729a Enable:Yes G723 Enable:Yes G726-16 Enable:Yes G726-24 Enable:Yes G726-32 Enable:Yes G726-40 Enable:Yes DTMF Process INFO:Yes DTMF Process AVT:Yes DTMF Tx Method:Auto FAX Process NSE:Yes FAX Disable ECAN:No FAX Enable T38:Yes FAX Tone Detect Mode:caller or callee Silence Supp Enable:No Silence Threshold:medium Echo Canc Enable:Yes Echo Canc Adapt Enable:Yes Echo Supp Enable:Yes FAX CED Detect Enable:Yes FAX CNG Detect Enable:Yes FAX Passthru Codec:G711u FAX Codec Symmetric:Yes FAX Passthru Method:NSE DTMF Tx Mode:Strict Hook Flash Tx Method:None Release Unused Codec:Yes FAX T38 Redundancy:Yes Symmetric RTP:Yes PSTN Line Audio Configuration Preferred Codec:G711u Use Pref Codec Only:No G729a Enable:Yes G723 Enable:Yes G726-16 Enable:Yes G726-24 Enable:Yes G726-32 Enable:Yes G726-40 Enable:Yes DTMF Process INFO:Yes DTMF Process AVT:Yes DTMF Tx Mode:Strict FAX Process NSE:Yes FAX Disable ECAN:No Silence Supp Enable:No Echo Canc Enable:Yes Echo Canc Adapt Enable:Yes Echo Supp Enable:Yes FAX CED Detect Enable:Yes FAX CNG Detect Enable:Yes FAX Passthru Codec:G711u FAX Codec Symmetric:Yes FAX Passthru Method:NSE DTMF Tx Method:Auto Release Unused Codec:Yes Symmetric RTP:Yes I'll try to the codec FAX Passthru Codec:G711a but I doubt this is the problem as I have another Sipura 3000 and it has been working with 711u without any problems. How about that "FAX Disable ECAN:No" was is the default to Yes or No -- #Joseph ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] faxing via linksys SPA3102 half page goes through
Wednesday, March 4, 2009, 3:22:59 PM, Joseph wrote: > FAX Passthru Codec: G711u for me FAX works better with G711a -- Best regards, Gergomailto:csi...@gmail.com ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] faxing via linksys SPA3102 half page goes through
Hi Joseph. I've spent some time tuning the SPA3102 FXS line input and output gain and I think that this is an important variable. Let's try to record incoming and outgoing fax tones with asterisk on SIP channel (disabling the fax detection on SPA and sending fax inband) and look at the recorded file with a wave editor (Audacity). I had better results if the maximum level is near half to the full dynamic. Then switch to T38, if you need it. Hope this helps you. Best regards, Marco Signorini === INGEGNI Tech S.r.l. http://www.ingegnitech.com Joseph wrote: > On 03/04/09 19:31, Michael wrote: > >> On Wed, 04 Mar 2009 19:25:38 Joseph wrote: >> >>> I'm faxing from stand alone fax machine via linksys SPA3102 but most of >>> the time only half or quarter page goes through. >>> >>> Did anybody have any experience like this? >>> >> Should be obvious but does your up line SIP provide support T.38? >> > > What do you mean it should be obvious? > > I think Linksys SPA3102 does support T.38 > On Line 1 I have: > FAX Enable T38: Yes > FAX T38 Redundancy: 1 > FAX Passthru Codec: G711u > FAX Process NSE: Yes > FAX Passthru Method: NSE > FAX CNG Detect Enable: Yes > FAX CED Detect Enable: Yes > > ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] faxing via linksys SPA3102 half page goes through
On 03/04/09 19:31, Michael wrote: >On Wed, 04 Mar 2009 19:25:38 Joseph wrote: >> I'm faxing from stand alone fax machine via linksys SPA3102 but most of >> the time only half or quarter page goes through. >> >> Did anybody have any experience like this? > >Should be obvious but does your up line SIP provide support T.38? I forgot to note that I'm not faxing through VoIP; fax goes through PSTN but the problem I'm having that only about half a page goes through. -- #Joseph ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] faxing via linksys SPA3102 half page goes through
On 03/04/09 19:31, Michael wrote: >On Wed, 04 Mar 2009 19:25:38 Joseph wrote: >> I'm faxing from stand alone fax machine via linksys SPA3102 but most of >> the time only half or quarter page goes through. >> >> Did anybody have any experience like this? > >Should be obvious but does your up line SIP provide support T.38? What do you mean it should be obvious? I think Linksys SPA3102 does support T.38 On Line 1 I have: FAX Enable T38: Yes FAX T38 Redundancy: 1 FAX Passthru Codec: G711u FAX Process NSE: Yes FAX Passthru Method: NSE FAX CNG Detect Enable: Yes FAX CED Detect Enable: Yes -- #Joseph GPG KeyID: ED0E1FB7 ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] faxing via linksys SPA3102 half page goes through
On Wed, 04 Mar 2009 19:25:38 Joseph wrote: > I'm faxing from stand alone fax machine via linksys SPA3102 but most of > the time only half or quarter page goes through. > > Did anybody have any experience like this? Should be obvious but does your up line SIP provide support T.38? ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users