Re: [asterisk-users] faxing via linksys SPA3102 half page goes through

2009-03-05 Thread Gergo Csibra
Wednesday, March 4, 2009, 5:43:13 PM, Joseph wrote:

> On 03/04/09 15:56, Gergo Csibra wrote:
>>Wednesday, March 4, 2009, 3:22:59 PM, Joseph wrote:
>>
>>> FAX Passthru Codec: G711u
>>
>>for me FAX works better with G711a

> Can you folks compare my setting below with your settings and let me know if 
> something differ.
> I was experimenting with echo in the past and might have triggered something 
> :-/ I know many settings have nothing to do with the fax but something must 
> have 
> trigger this problem, so I'm listing all the settings. 

Well, I use Linksys PAP2, but the settings mainly the same.

> Audio Configuration
> Preferred Codec:G711u   
> Use Pref Codec Only:No 

This is the only difference, I use G711a and pref codec only: yes

> FAX Disable ECAN:No

> How about that "FAX Disable ECAN:No" was is the default to Yes or No

This was default no, and I use this setting.

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Re: [asterisk-users] faxing via linksys SPA3102 half page goes through

2009-03-04 Thread Steve Underwood
Marco Signorini wrote:
> Joseph wrote:
>   
>> On 03/04/09 15:44, Marco Signorini wrote:
>>   
>> 
>>> Hi Joseph.
>>> I've spent some time tuning the SPA3102 FXS line input and output gain
>>> and I think that this is an important variable.
>>> Let's try to record incoming and outgoing fax tones with asterisk on SIP
>>> channel (disabling the fax detection on SPA and sending fax inband) and
>>> look at the recorded file with a wave editor (Audacity).
>>> I had better results if the maximum level is near half to the full
>>> dynamic. Then switch to T38, if you need it.
>>> 
>>>   
>> As I remember I have experimented with gain on PSTN line as well but have 
>> reset back to default.
>> I have:
>> SPA To PSTN Gain:0
>> PSTN To SPA Gain:0
>>
>> I think "0"  is the default.
>>
>>   
>> 
> Yes, "0" is the default.
> Is the fax machine connected to the FXS port or do you use the SPA3102
> only as a SIP 2 PSTN gateway?
> If you use the FXS port, please take a look at the gain parameters you
> can find in the "Miscellaneous" section in the "Regional" page (log in
> as Administrator then switch to the "advanced" report).
>
> Now I've -5 as input gain and -2 as output. I don't know if this could
> helps you.
>
>   
I regularly do T.38 testing against and SPA3102, and they are quite 
troublesome. Different FAX machines and FAX modems give very different 
results. If you put a much longer lead between the FAX machine and the 
SPA3102 you may find it works a lot better. :-\

If you turn up the gains too much you get clipping, but as long as you 
don't go too far it shouldn't very sensitive.

Regards,
Steve


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Re: [asterisk-users] faxing via linksys SPA3102 half page goes through

2009-03-04 Thread Joseph
On 03/04/09 18:01, Marco Signorini wrote:
>Joseph wrote:
>> As I remember I have experimented with gain on PSTN line as well but have 
>> reset back to default.
>> I have:
>> SPA To PSTN Gain:0
>> PSTN To SPA Gain:0
>>
>> I think "0"  is the default.
>>
>>   
>Yes, "0" is the default.
>Is the fax machine connected to the FXS port or do you use the SPA3102
>only as a SIP 2 PSTN gateway?
>If you use the FXS port, please take a look at the gain parameters you
>can find in the "Miscellaneous" section in the "Regional" page (log in
>as Administrator then switch to the "advanced" report).
>
>Now I've -5 as input gain and -2 as output. I don't know if this could
>helps you.

In my case I only use SIP 2 PSTN gateway so gain most likely wouldn't help me 
much.
I'll try to reset the unit to default setting and start from there.

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Re: [asterisk-users] faxing via linksys SPA3102 half page goes through

2009-03-04 Thread Marco Signorini
Joseph wrote:
> On 03/04/09 15:44, Marco Signorini wrote:
>   
>> Hi Joseph.
>> I've spent some time tuning the SPA3102 FXS line input and output gain
>> and I think that this is an important variable.
>> Let's try to record incoming and outgoing fax tones with asterisk on SIP
>> channel (disabling the fax detection on SPA and sending fax inband) and
>> look at the recorded file with a wave editor (Audacity).
>> I had better results if the maximum level is near half to the full
>> dynamic. Then switch to T38, if you need it.
>> 
>
> As I remember I have experimented with gain on PSTN line as well but have 
> reset back to default.
> I have:
> SPA To PSTN Gain:0
> PSTN To SPA Gain:0
>
> I think "0"  is the default.
>
>   
Yes, "0" is the default.
Is the fax machine connected to the FXS port or do you use the SPA3102
only as a SIP 2 PSTN gateway?
If you use the FXS port, please take a look at the gain parameters you
can find in the "Miscellaneous" section in the "Regional" page (log in
as Administrator then switch to the "advanced" report).

Now I've -5 as input gain and -2 as output. I don't know if this could
helps you.


Best regards,
Marco Signorini


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Re: [asterisk-users] faxing via linksys SPA3102 half page goes through

2009-03-04 Thread Joseph
On 03/04/09 15:44, Marco Signorini wrote:
>Hi Joseph.
>I've spent some time tuning the SPA3102 FXS line input and output gain
>and I think that this is an important variable.
>Let's try to record incoming and outgoing fax tones with asterisk on SIP
>channel (disabling the fax detection on SPA and sending fax inband) and
>look at the recorded file with a wave editor (Audacity).
>I had better results if the maximum level is near half to the full
>dynamic. Then switch to T38, if you need it.

As I remember I have experimented with gain on PSTN line as well but have reset 
back to default.
I have:
SPA To PSTN Gain:0
PSTN To SPA Gain:0

I think "0"  is the default.

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Re: [asterisk-users] faxing via linksys SPA3102 half page goes through

2009-03-04 Thread Joseph
On 03/04/09 15:56, Gergo Csibra wrote:
>Wednesday, March 4, 2009, 3:22:59 PM, Joseph wrote:
>
>> FAX Passthru Codec: G711u
>
>for me FAX works better with G711a

Can you folks compare my setting below with your settings and let me know if 
something differ.
I was experimenting with echo in the past and might have triggered something 
:-/ I know many settings have nothing to do with the fax but something must 
have 
trigger this problem, so I'm listing all the settings. 

Here are my settings, 
Line 1
Supplementary Service Subscription: 
Call Waiting Serv:No
Block ANC Serv:Yes  
Cfwd All Serv:Yes   
Cfwd No Ans Serv:Yes
Cfwd Last Serv:Yes 
Accept Last Serv:Yes
CID Serv:Yes   
Call Return Serv:Yes
Call Back Serv:Yes
Three Way Conf Serv:Yes 
Unattn Transfer Serv:Yes
VMWI Serv:Yes  
Secure Call Serv:Yes
Feature Dial Serv:Yes 

Block CID Serv:Yes
Dist Ring Serv:No
Cfwd Busy Serv:Yes
Cfwd Sel Serv:Yes
Block Last Serv:Yes
DND Serv:Yes
CWCID Serv:Yes
Call Redial Serv:Yes
Three Way Call Serv:Yes
Attn Transfer Serv:Yes
MWI Serv:Yes
Speed Dial Serv:Yes
Referral Serv:Yes
Service Announcement Serv:No

Audio Configuration 
Preferred Codec:G711u   
Use Pref Codec Only:No 
G729a Enable:Yes
G723 Enable:Yes 
G726-16 Enable:Yes 
G726-24 Enable:Yes  
G726-32 Enable:Yes   
G726-40 Enable:Yes 
DTMF Process INFO:Yes 
DTMF Process AVT:Yes  
DTMF Tx Method:Auto
FAX Process NSE:Yes
FAX Disable ECAN:No 
FAX Enable T38:Yes  
FAX Tone Detect Mode:caller or callee  
   
Silence Supp Enable:No
Silence Threshold:medium
Echo Canc Enable:Yes
Echo Canc Adapt Enable:Yes
Echo Supp Enable:Yes
FAX CED Detect Enable:Yes
FAX CNG Detect Enable:Yes
FAX Passthru Codec:G711u
FAX Codec Symmetric:Yes
FAX Passthru Method:NSE
DTMF Tx Mode:Strict
Hook Flash Tx Method:None
Release Unused Codec:Yes
FAX T38 Redundancy:Yes
Symmetric RTP:Yes


PSTN Line

Audio Configuration 
Preferred Codec:G711u 
Use Pref Codec Only:No 
G729a Enable:Yes   
G723 Enable:Yes   
G726-16 Enable:Yes 
G726-24 Enable:Yes 
G726-32 Enable:Yes 
G726-40 Enable:Yes 
DTMF Process INFO:Yes
DTMF Process AVT:Yes 
DTMF Tx Mode:Strict
FAX Process NSE:Yes  
FAX Disable ECAN:No  
  
Silence Supp Enable:No
Echo Canc Enable:Yes
Echo Canc Adapt Enable:Yes
Echo Supp Enable:Yes
FAX CED Detect Enable:Yes
FAX CNG Detect Enable:Yes
FAX Passthru Codec:G711u
FAX Codec Symmetric:Yes
FAX Passthru Method:NSE
DTMF Tx Method:Auto
Release Unused Codec:Yes
Symmetric RTP:Yes

I'll try to the codec FAX Passthru Codec:G711a but I doubt this is the problem 
as I have another Sipura 3000 and it has been working with 711u without any 
problems. 

How about that "FAX Disable ECAN:No" was is the default to Yes or No

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Re: [asterisk-users] faxing via linksys SPA3102 half page goes through

2009-03-04 Thread Gergo Csibra
Wednesday, March 4, 2009, 3:22:59 PM, Joseph wrote:

> FAX Passthru Codec: G711u

for me FAX works better with G711a

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Re: [asterisk-users] faxing via linksys SPA3102 half page goes through

2009-03-04 Thread Marco Signorini
Hi Joseph.
I've spent some time tuning the SPA3102 FXS line input and output gain
and I think that this is an important variable.
Let's try to record incoming and outgoing fax tones with asterisk on SIP
channel (disabling the fax detection on SPA and sending fax inband) and
look at the recorded file with a wave editor (Audacity).
I had better results if the maximum level is near half to the full
dynamic. Then switch to T38, if you need it.


Hope this helps you.

Best regards,
Marco Signorini

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http://www.ingegnitech.com



Joseph wrote:
> On 03/04/09 19:31, Michael wrote:
>   
>> On Wed, 04 Mar 2009 19:25:38 Joseph wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm faxing from  stand alone fax machine via linksys SPA3102 but most of
>>> the time only half or quarter page goes through.
>>>
>>> Did anybody have any experience like this?
>>>   
>> Should be obvious but does your up line SIP provide support T.38?
>> 
>
> What do you mean it should be obvious?
>
> I think Linksys SPA3102 does support T.38 
> On Line 1 I have:
> FAX Enable T38: Yes
> FAX T38 Redundancy: 1
> FAX Passthru Codec: G711u
> FAX Process NSE: Yes
> FAX Passthru Method: NSE
> FAX CNG Detect Enable: Yes
> FAX CED Detect Enable: Yes
>
>   


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Re: [asterisk-users] faxing via linksys SPA3102 half page goes through

2009-03-04 Thread Joseph
On 03/04/09 19:31, Michael wrote:
>On Wed, 04 Mar 2009 19:25:38 Joseph wrote:
>> I'm faxing from  stand alone fax machine via linksys SPA3102 but most of
>> the time only half or quarter page goes through.
>>
>> Did anybody have any experience like this?
>
>Should be obvious but does your up line SIP provide support T.38?

I forgot to note that I'm not faxing through VoIP; fax goes through PSTN 
but the problem I'm having that only about half a page goes through.

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Re: [asterisk-users] faxing via linksys SPA3102 half page goes through

2009-03-04 Thread Joseph
On 03/04/09 19:31, Michael wrote:
>On Wed, 04 Mar 2009 19:25:38 Joseph wrote:
>> I'm faxing from  stand alone fax machine via linksys SPA3102 but most of
>> the time only half or quarter page goes through.
>>
>> Did anybody have any experience like this?
>
>Should be obvious but does your up line SIP provide support T.38?

What do you mean it should be obvious?

I think Linksys SPA3102 does support T.38 
On Line 1 I have:
FAX Enable T38: Yes
FAX T38 Redundancy: 1
FAX Passthru Codec: G711u
FAX Process NSE: Yes
FAX Passthru Method: NSE
FAX CNG Detect Enable: Yes
FAX CED Detect Enable: Yes

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Re: [asterisk-users] faxing via linksys SPA3102 half page goes through

2009-03-03 Thread Michael
On Wed, 04 Mar 2009 19:25:38 Joseph wrote:
> I'm faxing from  stand alone fax machine via linksys SPA3102 but most of
> the time only half or quarter page goes through.
>
> Did anybody have any experience like this?

Should be obvious but does your up line SIP provide support T.38?

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