X100P mod or USB relay box, RE: [Asterisk-Users] Line Override Device

2003-07-14 Thread Reed Wade


The best solution would be an enhancement to the X100P card.

If the 2nd RJ jack was a pass through for the line except
when the card had power and was initialized. Some kind of
watchdog functionality would also be nice so that if, for
example, Asterisk dies then pass through functionality would
take effect after n seconds.
This would probably mean adding a relay to the board which
would raise to cast a little. But, as the original poster
indicated this is critical for a serious system.
An alternative would be an extra relay box, maybe powered by
USB. One mode could be to switch based on presence of power,
another mode could require periodic watchdog pings via the
USB. I always wanted to build something using a USB flavored
PIC...
I can see this for small offices (like ours). We have 4 incoming
lines in a hunt group. If Asterisk is not running I want one of
those lines to ring the receptionist (maybe using a simple dedicated
phone since they'd otherwise have an IP phone) and the others looped
for busy.
I can see a box with USB and 12 RJ jacks (4 x (1 in, 2 outs)) to make
that work.
Would anyone buy a product like that?

-reed



At 07:12 AM 7/14/2003 -0500, jltaylor wrote:
This power failure thing does not have to be complicated.
A few solutions come to mind:
1) A 3,5,12 (whatever is needed) power supply (wall wart)used with a relay 
(DPDT).  When the wall wart has power, the computer takes the call.  When 
power fails, the POTS line falls in to place.
Now, this does not delay while the computer is booting up.

2) A basic stamp computer - about $25-30.  It has 8 programmable i/o 
pins that will drive relays. One pin monitors either a wall wart or 5v 
from one of the plugs on your computer's power supply.  When pin 1 goes 
low (no power) relay kicks in to bypass computer and connect POTS line 
direct.  When power returns program jumps to a sleep or delay statement 
for xMINS until computer boots. And then releases relay for normal 
operation.  www.parallaxinc.com and resellers.

James Taylor
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903-793-1953




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Re: X100P mod or USB relay box, RE: [Asterisk-Users] Line Override Device

2003-07-14 Thread Reed Wade


At 11:34 AM 7/14/2003 -0500, Steven Critchfield wrote:


One wouldn't use a X100P in a serious system.


How so? I assume you're talking about scale and not
reliability. We get a relatively small number of calls
but any one of them could be worth a large stack of
cash for our business. A stinky phone system can make
us look bad.
The main reason I'm looking at Asterisk is to improve
the reliability and control over our phone system.
All the other great things it provides really are
secondary for the folks who pay my salary.



Only if you aren't pulling power from the USB bus. There isn't much
there.
There may be just enough depending on how many relays are needed,
but it would be too close. I agree, better off not trying to get
power from there.
I do like the idea of some kind of watchdog functionality. Simply
having power isn't sufficient to trust that a call is getting
routed.
-reed





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Re: X100P mod or USB relay box, RE: [Asterisk-Users] Line Override Device

2003-07-14 Thread Reed Wade


At 12:57 PM 7/14/2003 -0500, you wrote:
This makes me think that you could take this a step further too and
incorporate an external power supply and a relay that could interupt
mains power so that you could power cycle the PC if the watchdog had
power to operate and the PC wasn't responding or generating pings.


i like that

-reed



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Re: X100P mod or USB relay box, RE: [Asterisk-Users] Line Override Device

2003-07-14 Thread Anthony Wood
The Voicetronix Openline6 and Openline12 cards have the functionality you want built 
in.
You can configure (jumpers) which ports are FXO and which are FXS (in groups of 2 
IIRC) and 1st FXO
goes to 1st FXS etc. in case of power failure.

Apparently these cards work with Asterisk (chan_vpb).

I think cost is AU$1500 and AU$3000 for 6 and 12.

cheers,
Wooody

On Mon, Jul 14, 2003 at 02:17:59PM -0400, Reed Wade wrote:
 
 
 At 12:57 PM 7/14/2003 -0500, you wrote:
 This makes me think that you could take this a step further too and
 incorporate an external power supply and a relay that could interupt
 mains power so that you could power cycle the PC if the watchdog had
 power to operate and the PC wasn't responding or generating pings.
 
 
 i like that
 
 -reed
 
 
 
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