Re: [Asterisk-video] hot to know a mobile device supports video call when trying to do outbound 3g video call

2011-09-13 Thread Konstantinos Liadakis 

  
  
I have thought of that, but normally people when answering a
videocall they dont say hello, they expect to see a video and then
start talkng. Hence maybe AMD can help us understand if the call has
been answered by  voicemail (not really sure if it is possible, did
not try it) but it will not help start playing the video to a
capable device as it will expect some word, and then a pause. What
do we do about that?

thank you for your reply

Regards

Dinos

On 13/9/2011 4:22 μμ, Robson Felix wrote:

  when transferring to an operator service (voice mail) you can perform
an AMD to detect that.

Enviado do meu iPhone

On 13/09/2011, at 10:13, Konstantinos Liadakis  wrote:


  
Again this thread is dead although i feel a proper reply is not given yet.

In most cases, a call will hangup if it is sent to a non video capable device.

There are 2  cases where mobile device is not video capable, and has got voicemail enabled, and is also in an area with no 3g coverage, or device is not video capable, has got voicemail enabled and is switched off.

>From my experience and tests, i have found that the call will be answered in the same way as a video capable device would do, and the dialplan proceeds exactly as if the video is played on the recipient. In this case the sender would think that the video was correctly displayed on recipients device, but in fact it isn't.

Sergio's earlier reply to this thread was:"Quick answer, the only way to know if someone supports 3G video call is making a call." This is true for most cases except from the ones describe above.

Also Borja from i6net said: "If you tag the video correctly (signaling marks), the non capable phone shoudn't ring and not be able get the call (the call is rejected or transferred to an operator service)." How do we handle this if the call is diverted to an operator service,in my case cellphone voicemail.

If there was a way to know that call has been diverted to voicemail, then it could hangup, and not leave the disturbing buzzing voicemail.

No matter what i have tried, i cannot distinguish a successful video transmission over 3g from an unsuccessful divert to voicemail when a device is not video capable.

I hope that someone can help on this, as i cannot think of anything else to try

Best regards

Dinos









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Re: [Asterisk-video] hot to know a mobile device supports video call when trying to do outbound 3g video call

2011-09-13 Thread Robson Felix 
when transferring to an operator service (voice mail) you can perform
an AMD to detect that.

Enviado do meu iPhone

On 13/09/2011, at 10:13, Konstantinos Liadakis  wrote:

> Again this thread is dead although i feel a proper reply is not given yet.
>
> In most cases, a call will hangup if it is sent to a non video capable device.
>
> There are 2  cases where mobile device is not video capable, and has got 
> voicemail enabled, and is also in an area with no 3g coverage, or device is 
> not video capable, has got voicemail enabled and is switched off.
>
> From my experience and tests, i have found that the call will be answered in 
> the same way as a video capable device would do, and the dialplan proceeds 
> exactly as if the video is played on the recipient. In this case the sender 
> would think that the video was correctly displayed on recipients device, but 
> in fact it isn't.
>
> Sergio's earlier reply to this thread was:"Quick answer, the only way to know 
> if someone supports 3G video call is making a call." This is true for most 
> cases except from the ones describe above.
>
> Also Borja from i6net said: "If you tag the video correctly (signaling 
> marks), the non capable phone shoudn't ring and not be able get the call (the 
> call is rejected or transferred to an operator service)." How do we handle 
> this if the call is diverted to an operator service,in my case cellphone 
> voicemail.
>
> If there was a way to know that call has been diverted to voicemail, then it 
> could hangup, and not leave the disturbing buzzing voicemail.
>
> No matter what i have tried, i cannot distinguish a successful video 
> transmission over 3g from an unsuccessful divert to voicemail when a device 
> is not video capable.
>
> I hope that someone can help on this, as i cannot think of anything else to 
> try
>
> Best regards
>
> Dinos
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Asterisk-video] hot to know a mobile device supports video call when trying to do outbound 3g video call

2011-09-13 Thread Konstantinos Liadakis 

Again this thread is dead although i feel a proper reply is not given yet.

In most cases, a call will hangup if it is sent to a non video capable 
device.


There are 2  cases where mobile device is not video capable, and has got 
voicemail enabled, and is also in an area with no 3g coverage, or device 
is not video capable, has got voicemail enabled and is switched off.


From my experience and tests, i have found that the call will be 
answered in the same way as a video capable device would do, and the 
dialplan proceeds exactly as if the video is played on the recipient. In 
this case the sender would think that the video was correctly displayed 
on recipients device, but in fact it isn't.


Sergio's earlier reply to this thread was:"Quick answer, the only way to 
know if someone supports 3G video call is making a call." This is true 
for most cases except from the ones describe above.


Also Borja from i6net said: "If you tag the video correctly (signaling 
marks), the non capable phone shoudn't ring and not be able get the call 
(the call is rejected or transferred to an operator service)." How do we 
handle this if the call is diverted to an operator service,in my case 
cellphone voicemail.


If there was a way to know that call has been diverted to voicemail, 
then it could hangup, and not leave the disturbing buzzing voicemail.


No matter what i have tried, i cannot distinguish a successful video 
transmission over 3g from an unsuccessful divert to voicemail when a 
device is not video capable.


I hope that someone can help on this, as i cannot think of anything else 
to try


Best regards

Dinos









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Re: [Asterisk-video] hot to know a mobile device supports video call when trying to do outbound 3g video call

2011-08-24 Thread Borja SIXTO 

Hi,

If you tag the video correctly (signaling marks), the non capable phone 
shoudn't ring and not be able get the call (the call is rejected or 
transfered to an operator service).
Generally the mobile operators manage the phones capabilities or user's 
options (video capability can be disabled, or unavailable if the network 
in not 3G).


For landline, sometime the video call can reach the user, but in most of 
the countries you can identify this type of phone by the number prefix.


If you still have problems, they can be generated by the operators who 
don't manage the signaling informations.


Regards,


Borja from i6net

Le 24/08/2011 13:17, Konstantinos Liadakis a écrit :

One more note,

I realized that when non capable phone has 3g coverage then when 
trying to call it using h324 then the call fails straight away.


If the non capable phone has no 3g coverage then call will go through 
to voicemail.


I tested this using h324 and asterisk, but i double chcked that using 
my 3g video capable phone trying to call a non capable phone using 
video call.


I dont have problem calling the number to see if it supports video 
call, but i dont want to leave voicemails of buzzing sounds...


Has anybody ever seen this before? Is there a workaround

Thanks again

Regards

Dinos

On 24/8/2011 2:04 ??, Sergio Garcia Murillo wrote:

Hi  Dinos,

Quick answer, the only way to know if someone supports 3G video call 
is making a call.


Best regards
Sergio

El 24/08/2011 12:56, Konstantinos Liadakis escribió:
Although this post is 4 weeks old, i never got some answers from the 
list.


There is no way to know if device has 3g video capability or if it 
is in an area with 3g coverage?


How can we avoid sending 3g video calls to non capable devices? 
Could someone post a dialplan that could do that?


Hope this time i get some answer. Thank you very much in advance

Regards

Dinos

On 25/7/2011 11:53 ??, Konstantinos Liadakis wrote:

Hello list,

Is there any way to know if device supports video call, or if 
device supports video calls but is not within 3g coverage when 
trying to make outbound video call and call fails.


During my tests i have seen that sometimes calls go through to 
devices without video capability. In this case i found a message in 
mobiles voicemails with just a buzzing sound.


How can we avoid sending 3g video calls to non capable devices? 
Could someone post a dialplan that could do that?


thank you in advance

dinos



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Re: [Asterisk-video] hot to know a mobile device supports video call when trying to do outbound 3g video call

2011-08-24 Thread Konstantinos Liadakis 

One more note,

I realized that when non capable phone has 3g coverage then when trying 
to call it using h324 then the call fails straight away.


If the non capable phone has no 3g coverage then call will go through to 
voicemail.


I tested this using h324 and asterisk, but i double chcked that using my 
3g video capable phone trying to call a non capable phone using video call.


I dont have problem calling the number to see if it supports video call, 
but i dont want to leave voicemails of buzzing sounds...


Has anybody ever seen this before? Is there a workaround

Thanks again

Regards

Dinos

On 24/8/2011 2:04 ??, Sergio Garcia Murillo wrote:

Hi  Dinos,

Quick answer, the only way to know if someone supports 3G video call 
is making a call.


Best regards
Sergio

El 24/08/2011 12:56, Konstantinos Liadakis escribió:
Although this post is 4 weeks old, i never got some answers from the 
list.


There is no way to know if device has 3g video capability or if it is 
in an area with 3g coverage?


How can we avoid sending 3g video calls to non capable devices? Could 
someone post a dialplan that could do that?


Hope this time i get some answer. Thank you very much in advance

Regards

Dinos

On 25/7/2011 11:53 ??, Konstantinos Liadakis wrote:

Hello list,

Is there any way to know if device supports video call, or if device 
supports video calls but is not within 3g coverage when trying to 
make outbound video call and call fails.


During my tests i have seen that sometimes calls go through to 
devices without video capability. In this case i found a message in 
mobiles voicemails with just a buzzing sound.


How can we avoid sending 3g video calls to non capable devices? 
Could someone post a dialplan that could do that?


thank you in advance

dinos



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Re: [Asterisk-video] hot to know a mobile device supports video call when trying to do outbound 3g video call

2011-08-24 Thread Sergio Garcia Murillo 

  
  
Hi  Dinos,

Quick answer, the only way to know if someone supports 3G video call
is making a call.

Best regards
Sergio

El 24/08/2011 12:56, Konstantinos Liadakis escribió:

  
  Although this post is 4 weeks old, i never got some answers from
  the list.
  
  There is no way to know if device has 3g video capability or if it
  is in an area with 3g coverage?
  
  How can we avoid sending 3g video calls to non capable devices?
  Could someone post a dialplan that could do that? 
  
  Hope this time i get some answer. Thank you very much in advance
  
  Regards
  
  Dinos
  
  On 25/7/2011 11:53 πμ, Konstantinos Liadakis wrote:
  Hello

list, 

Is there any way to know if device supports video call, or if
device supports video calls but is not within 3g coverage when
trying to make outbound video call and call fails. 

During my tests i have seen that sometimes calls go through to
devices without video capability. In this case i found a message
in mobiles voicemails with just a buzzing sound. 

How can we avoid sending 3g video calls to non capable devices?
Could someone post a dialplan that could do that? 

thank you in advance 

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Re: [Asterisk-video] hot to know a mobile device supports video call when trying to do outbound 3g video call

2011-08-24 Thread Konstantinos Liadakis 


  
  
Although this post is 4 weeks old, i never got some answers from the
list.

There is no way to know if device has 3g video capability or if it
is in an area with 3g coverage?

How can we avoid sending 3g video calls to non capable devices?
Could someone post a dialplan that could do that?


Hope this time i get some answer. Thank you very much in advance

Regards

Dinos

On 25/7/2011 11:53 πμ, Konstantinos Liadakis wrote:
Hello
  list,
  
  
  Is there any way to know if device supports video call, or if
  device supports video calls but is not within 3g coverage when
  trying to make outbound video call and call fails.
  
  
  During my tests i have seen that sometimes calls go through to
  devices without video capability. In this case i found a message
  in mobiles voicemails with just a buzzing sound.
  
  
  How can we avoid sending 3g video calls to non capable devices?
  Could someone post a dialplan that could do that?
  
  
  thank you in advance
  
  
  dinos
  
  
  
  
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[Asterisk-video] hot to know a mobile device supports video call when trying to do outbound 3g video call

2011-07-25 Thread Konstantinos Liadakis 

Hello list,

Is there any way to know if device supports video call, or if device 
supports video calls but is not within 3g coverage when trying to make 
outbound video call and call fails.


During my tests i have seen that sometimes calls go through to devices 
without video capability. In this case i found a message in mobiles 
voicemails with just a buzzing sound.


How can we avoid sending 3g video calls to non capable devices? Could 
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