Re: [ath9k-devel] Standardisation - adding 2 bit STBC and Ness to MCS (repost 3)

2013-05-16 Thread Oleksij Rempel
Hallo all,

so, there is no updates or critic on this topic. That mean, every thing 
is OK.

I assume  suggested-fields/MCS extension for STBC and Ness
http://www.radiotap.org/suggested-fields/MCS%20extension%20for%20STBC%20and%20Ness

can be moved to defined-fields/MCS
http://www.radiotap.org/defined-fields/MCS

Johannes, your word ;)


Am 09.05.2013 11:55, schrieb Oleksij Rempel:
 Hallo all,

 this is probably third repost of this standardisation request.

 History:
 - 11 May 2012. initial request made by Simon Barber.
 http://www.radiotap.org/suggested-fields/MCS%20extension%20for%20STBC%20and%20Ness


 - 1 Okt 2012, Wireshark support this fields. Patches provided by
 Wojciech Dubowik.
 https://bugs.wireshark.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=6720

 - 1 Nov 2012. patches for intel adapters, ieee80211 and wireshark was
 uploaded by Simon.
 http://www.radiotap.org/suggested-fields/MCS%20extension%20for%20STBC%20and%20Ness?action=AttachFile


 - 17 Nov 2012. Simon posted new thread as suggested Johannes Berg.

 - 1 May 2013. I restarted this discussion.

 link to initial discussion:
 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.network.wireless.radiotap/302

 As you can see it is already long standing issue...

 Now to proposal mad by Simon. Please add comments like: agreed or not
 agreed and why.

  Proposal ===

 This proposal is to extend the current MCS radiotap header to carry STBC
 and Ness information. This information is carried in the 802.11 HT-SIG
 field that carries all the other fields currently in this radiotap MCS
 header. Both STBC and Ness fields are needed alongside the others to
 calculate the length (duration in time) of a frame. This proposal adds 3
 bits to the known field and the flags field. See below for proposed text.

 = MCS =

   Bit Number:: 19
   Structure:: u8 known, u8 flags, u8 mcs
   Required Alignment:: 1

 The `mcs` field indicates the MCS rate index as in
 [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11n-2009#Data_rates|IEEE_802.11n-2009]]


 The `known` field indicates which information is known:
 ||'''flag'''||'''definition'''||
 || `0x01` || bandwidth ||
 || `0x02` || MCS index known (in `mcs` part of the field) ||
 || `0x04` || guard interval ||
 || `0x08` || HT format ||
 || `0x10` || FEC type ||
 || `0x20` || STBC known ||
 || `0x40` || Ness known (Number of extension spatial streams) ||
 || `0x80` || Ness data - bit 1 (MSB) of Number of extension spatial
 streams ||

 The `flags` field is any combination of the following:
 || '''flag''' || '''definition''' ||
 || `0x03` || bandwidth - 0: 20, 1: 40, 2: 20L, 3: 20U ||
 || `0x04` || guard interval - 0: long GI, 1: short GI ||
 || `0x08` || HT format - 0: mixed, 1: greenfield ||
 || `0x10` || FEC type - 0: BCC, 1: LDPC ||
 || `0x60` || Number of STBC streams ||
 || `0x80` || Ness - bit 0 (LSB) of Number of extension spatial streams |



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Regards,
Oleksij
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Re: [ath9k-devel] Standardisation - adding 2 bit STBC and Ness to MCS (repost 3)

2013-05-16 Thread Johannes Berg
On Thu, 2013-05-16 at 11:01 +0200, Oleksij Rempel wrote:
 Hallo all,
 
 so, there is no updates or critic on this topic. That mean, every thing 
 is OK.

I tend to agree.

 I assume  suggested-fields/MCS extension for STBC and Ness
 http://www.radiotap.org/suggested-fields/MCS%20extension%20for%20STBC%20and%20Ness
 
 can be moved to defined-fields/MCS
 http://www.radiotap.org/defined-fields/MCS
 
 Johannes, your word ;)

I don't really have any say, but go for it, for all I care :)

johannes

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[ath9k-devel] Standardisation - adding 2 bit STBC and Ness to MCS (repost 3)

2013-05-09 Thread Oleksij Rempel
Hallo all,

this is probably third repost of this standardisation request.

History:
- 11 May 2012. initial request made by Simon Barber.
http://www.radiotap.org/suggested-fields/MCS%20extension%20for%20STBC%20and%20Ness

- 1 Okt 2012, Wireshark support this fields. Patches provided by 
Wojciech Dubowik.
https://bugs.wireshark.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=6720

- 1 Nov 2012. patches for intel adapters, ieee80211 and wireshark was 
uploaded by Simon.
http://www.radiotap.org/suggested-fields/MCS%20extension%20for%20STBC%20and%20Ness?action=AttachFile

- 17 Nov 2012. Simon posted new thread as suggested Johannes Berg.

- 1 May 2013. I restarted this discussion.

link to initial discussion:
http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.network.wireless.radiotap/302

As you can see it is already long standing issue...

Now to proposal mad by Simon. Please add comments like: agreed or not 
agreed and why.

 Proposal ===

This proposal is to extend the current MCS radiotap header to carry STBC 
and Ness information. This information is carried in the 802.11 HT-SIG 
field that carries all the other fields currently in this radiotap MCS 
header. Both STBC and Ness fields are needed alongside the others to 
calculate the length (duration in time) of a frame. This proposal adds 3 
bits to the known field and the flags field. See below for proposed text.

= MCS =

  Bit Number:: 19
  Structure:: u8 known, u8 flags, u8 mcs
  Required Alignment:: 1

The `mcs` field indicates the MCS rate index as in 
[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11n-2009#Data_rates|IEEE_802.11n-2009]]

The `known` field indicates which information is known:
||'''flag'''||'''definition'''||
|| `0x01` || bandwidth ||
|| `0x02` || MCS index known (in `mcs` part of the field) ||
|| `0x04` || guard interval ||
|| `0x08` || HT format ||
|| `0x10` || FEC type ||
|| `0x20` || STBC known ||
|| `0x40` || Ness known (Number of extension spatial streams) ||
|| `0x80` || Ness data - bit 1 (MSB) of Number of extension spatial 
streams ||

The `flags` field is any combination of the following:
|| '''flag''' || '''definition''' ||
|| `0x03` || bandwidth - 0: 20, 1: 40, 2: 20L, 3: 20U ||
|| `0x04` || guard interval - 0: long GI, 1: short GI ||
|| `0x08` || HT format - 0: mixed, 1: greenfield ||
|| `0x10` || FEC type - 0: BCC, 1: LDPC ||
|| `0x60` || Number of STBC streams ||
|| `0x80` || Ness - bit 0 (LSB) of Number of extension spatial streams |

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Oleksij
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