Re: atom:host [was: Comments on format-05]

2005-02-01 Thread Joe Gregorio

On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 10:58:52 +0100, Danny Ayers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 22:51:21 -0500, Joe Gregorio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Anonymous (from IP: aaa.bbb.ccc.)
> 
> Well yes, and there's always:
> 
> 
> The title of this feed is "The Stuff" and the first entry it contains
> is titled "Hello World" from 1st February, and that has the content
> "...
> 
> 
> What did you end up implementing for the Wiki?

I punted and put myself as the author. I will probably go back and 
change it to use Anonymous as I outlined above.

-joe

-- 
Joe Gregoriohttp://bitworking.org



Re: atom:host [was: Comments on format-05]

2005-02-01 Thread Danny Ayers

On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 22:51:21 -0500, Joe Gregorio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Anonymous (from IP: aaa.bbb.ccc.)

Well yes, and there's always:


The title of this feed is "The Stuff" and the first entry it contains
is titled "Hello World" from 1st February, and that has the content
"...


What did you end up implementing for the Wiki?

I've no objection to this being dropped from the core in its current
(misleading) form, I think it would probably cause more trouble than
it's worth.

The use case is nice and clear though - this could make an exccellent
extension demo.

Cheers,
Danny.
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http://dannyayers.com



RE: atom:host [was: Comments on format-05]

2005-01-31 Thread Bob Wyman

I thought atom:host was made redundant by the combination of HeadInEntry and
FeedLink...

bob wyman



Re: atom:host [was: Comments on format-05]

2005-01-30 Thread Tim Bray
On Jan 30, 2005, at 8:09 PM, Robert Sayre wrote:
Yay! Let's drop atom:host.
+1 oh yes please, I always thought it was lame-ass. -Tim


Re: atom:host [was: Comments on format-05]

2005-01-30 Thread Robert Sayre
Joe Gregorio wrote:
I believe atom:host is the long lost descendent of atom:ipaddr, which came from 
the problem I had implementing Atom on wiki, where the 'author' of an
entry can be difficult to pin down and the ip address may be the only
information available. If atom:host is what the 'solution' has morphed
into, than I'd rather see it dropped.
Thanks for bringing up this "problem".
Anonymous (from IP: aaa.bbb.ccc.)
Yay! Let's drop atom:host.
Robert Sayre


Re: atom:host [was: Comments on format-05]

2005-01-30 Thread Joe Gregorio

On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 18:11:56 -0800, Mark Nottingham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> I'm not going to lie down in the road to get rid of atom:host, if there
> are a lot of people that want it badly. However, it should be more
> completely specified; i.e., some mention in security considerations,
> and also, more information about the association.
> 
> Right now, it's just "domain name or network address associated with an
> entry's origin." What is that association? It feels very much like
> atom:date, when it had a date, but no indication of what the date
> represented; i.e., it's just a datatype (in this case, a hostname or ip
> address), but no information about *how* it relates to the entry or
> feed.

I believe atom:host is the long lost descendent of atom:ipaddr, which came from 
the problem I had implementing Atom on wiki, where the 'author' of an
entry can be difficult to pin down and the ip address may be the only
information available. If atom:host is what the 'solution' has morphed
into, than I'd rather see it dropped. When putting together a feed for
a wiki in Atom I could just as easily set the atom:name element to:

Anonymous

or 

Anonymous (from IP: aaa.bbb.ccc.)


-joe

-- 
Joe Gregoriohttp://bitworking.org