Re: A home for Swamp campaigns
2019-02-04
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : CAE_Jones via Audiogames-reflector
Re: A home for Swamp campaigns My server is a jerk and replaces all the windows linebreaks with linux linebreaks. So you have to open them in the browser, then copy/paste the text. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/409408/#p409408 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: A home for Swamp campaigns
2019-02-03
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : michaelhoffman1976 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: A home for Swamp campaigns well i downloaded the raiders campaign the battle fronts and the mall and none of them work swamp just closes wehn i try to clock on them so not sure what's going on. I'm sad now. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/409331/#p409331 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: A home for Swamp campaigns
2019-02-02
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : TheTrueSwampGamer via Audiogames-reflector
Re: A home for Swamp campaigns you know, me too URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/409148/#p409148 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: A home for Swamp campaigns
2019-02-01
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : chrisfaelnar via Audiogames-reflector
Re: A home for Swamp campaigns Hi. I don't know if this is still up but, can you please invite me to the dropbox folder?faelnarchrist...@gmail.comThanks URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/408875/#p408875 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: A home for Swamp campaigns
2016-09-25
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : The coll gamer via Audiogames-reflector
Re: A home for Swamp campaigns [[wow]], I like Swamp campaigns, and I also would like to have more of them. Sometimes Swamp campaigns are better than the actual multiplayer game. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=280301#p280301 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: A home for Swamp campaigns
Re: A home for Swamp campaigns Hopefully the issues are fixable. I will put a link to this page on the swamp entry in the db, the hopefully more people will send in campaigns to make this a true repository. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=224352#p224352 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: A home for Swamp campaigns
Re: A home for Swamp campaigns Hi.Why does Swamp crash when attempting to load most of these campaigns? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=224387#p224387 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: A home for Swamp campaigns
2015-07-15
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : CAE_Jones via Audiogames-reflector
Re: A home for Swamp campaigns Is my dropbox still broken?K, officially dropping dropbox, then. This is just ridiculous.Try this link:http://planetseva.com/scs.htmI expect half the links to have problems.Also, Fyquest for some reason causes current Swamp to freeze. I think it works with Swamp 2.8-3.0. Will probably need to just upload a campaign client (or three) to deal with the compatibility issues. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=224282#p224282 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: A home for Swamp campaigns
Re: A home for Swamp campaigns Hello.These links give 429 errors. I want to try the fyquest campaign. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=224277#p224277 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: A home for Swamp campaigns
2015-06-04
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : amerikranian via Audiogames-reflector
Re: A home for Swamp campaigns I am also interested to know if this is still going. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=218986#p218986 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: A home for Swamp campaigns
Re: A home for Swamp campaigns Anything new happened with this? there was just someone who wanted to create first person games on the audeasy list and I was trying to explain about swamp and how the campaign scripting could be used to make things other than zombie infested fps maps, but when I tried the link to Caes above page I got an error, and also Im not sure if people are contributing more campaigns to the page. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=218005#p218005 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: A home for Swamp campaigns
2015-02-15
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Socheat via Audiogames-reflector
Re: A home for Swamp campaigns hi,why not create a bt sync for it? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=204891#p204891 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: A home for Swamp campaigns
Re: A home for Swamp campaigns Nice website. Better than I would have made it. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=203891#p203891 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: A home for Swamp campaigns
2015-02-04
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : CAE_Jones via Audiogames-reflector
Re: A home for Swamp campaigns Preview:This is still in progress; this is not the final link (in fact, the primary and mirror links are exactly the same, because this is just me editting it in my dropbox until I sort out what to upload where):Swamp Campaign page previewIt only has my campaigns in it right now; the link to Pyramid will work in the real page. I still need to sort out which campaigns people do and dont want mirrored, and for some reason my site wont upload Fyquest even though it had no trouble with something 5 times the size in 2004, so Ill probably need to mirror it elsewhere (assuming thats even the latest version... I feel like Ive made changes since the timestamp on that.).Ill probably try to upload everything 1MB or less first. Everything else can get in line. (Yes, yes, I know that Fyquest is 14 MB. It, too, can get in line, now.) URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=203652#p203652 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: A home for Swamp campaigns
Re: A home for Swamp campaigns Hi Cae. That is awsome, and just the sort of thing I was thinking of when I made the suggestion, I also love the utter pointlessness of the tell me which link to use buttonn. You might consider a contact me if you want your campaign here type of message with your e-mail, particularly sinse if this is! going to bhe the sort of official home of swamp campaigns, I would like to add a link to the db Swamp Entry and maybe Aprone might stick one on his site too.This is also the first Ive heard of several of these campaigns too, so thanks on that score as well, Ill have to give some a try. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=203664#p203664 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: A home for Swamp campaigns
2015-02-04
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : severestormsteve1 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: A home for Swamp campaigns Kae that looks nice.Will you add this? provided its worth adding https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/492 … g%20mania2Oh and this as well.https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/492 … 0steve%201Ironically, I posted all these on my podcast page, and found them in the show notes sections of various episodes. lol URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=203660#p203660 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: A home for Swamp campaigns
2015-02-04
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : crashmaster via Audiogames-reflector
Re: A home for Swamp campaigns Hi all.Well I think all you needis a website could be a static ip or whatever, and well who knows.A .tk domain is free.You can store the website on any number of places,something like a 000webhost domain crappy though it is can host html custom download scripts.You should be able to have dropbox google drive or other cloud sources, ofcause paying for space on the cloud unless its ms is quite cheap between 9 and 10 bucks for most will give you 1tb which is more than enough per month.A redirect from onj.me and zz.cc if you want and you have a basic server.Or you can if you dont give a stuff use a free blog like wordpress.com and a cloud service to host the campaigns.Right now, all the campaigns we have up are in the dropbox cloud and are 119mb in size.There I guess is no issue with inviting those that want direct access and then mirroring the entire dropbox folder as it stands giving that it does have a structure thou gh you would probably want to take all the download links and I cant be stuffed weeding all that out as it stands.Saying that if someone wanted to host the thing, you would only have to allocate 1-2gb to the project, 2gb is plenty at this stage 1gb maybe all we need campaigns dont grow expenentionally.There have been a few larger ones with sounds but most are maps and such.One thing to note though.I had a user on the dropbox upload campaigns in .exe extractors.Msse immediately said it was a virus and dropbox couldnt sync the file after fiddling with dropbox linking and such I had to turn off all my security antivirus, malware and firewall, open my system to the hackers and let dropbox sync turn it back on and then clear the caches.The issue was tracked down to the swamp folder and the file was archived but Its safe to say that any huge campaign would need to be zipped.Said repo should also include links to 7zip and Wi nRAR because windows zip program cant unzip anything bar zip files.A repo should have campaigns organised by author with descriptions and pages for every author including an email at least to contact the author other things, ie twitter/facebook/ wordpres Skype etc can be added in I guess.Oh and if they have a name on the ag forum that should be added I guess for those that want to pm or use the ag forum system for contact.The swamp campaigns wont take that much to host.My concern would be traffic, dropbox is not really good with public traffic unless you pay.I am not sure about any cloud users.We really need a couple ftp servers but who the heck has that kind of cash.Id say bt sync folder but the only semi accessable version is 2.0 beta and 1.3.09 is the only one that works.Right now I wouldnt recommend bt sync as a stable option, its an option but not stable at all.There is git since its semi opensource n ot sure about audio, and then there is the just bunging up a zip with the campaigns somewhere and updating it which is currently not that bad of an idea since the folder hardly gets updated at all URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=203687#p203687 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: A home for Swamp campaigns
Re: A home for Swamp campaigns Not sure if this is still going, but if so please add me to the folder the Email is high10s...@sbcglobal.net Thanks. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=203572#p203572 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: A home for Swamp campaigns
2015-01-30
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : CAE_Jones via Audiogames-reflector
Re: A home for Swamp campaigns I havent checked the Title Weapons, but the raiders work. Heres a simple test campaign I made that got kinda addictive for a little while (Incidentally, it convinced me to start playing with armor skills, which is the only way I made it past 20):map=lastman0x=10y=50set music=music\lastman.mp3starting geargive item 1 AK47give item 1 Short bayonetgive item 1 Small bayonetgive item 1 Short Bayonetgive item 1 Small Bayonetgive item 900 7.62mm ammogive item 1 Field kitgive item 9000 Med kitgive item 1 Riot Shieldgive item 1 Machetegive item 1 Flamethrowergive item 900 Gasgive item 1 Leather jacketgive item 1 Paintball maskgive item 1 Running shoesgive item 1 Running shortsgive item 1 Bunny Slippersgive item 1 Combat bootsgive item 1 Apronic Armorgive item 1 Adult diapergive item 1 Apronic leggingsgive item 1 Apronic helmetgive item 1 Work jeansgive item 1 Riot face guardgive item 1 Military helmetgive item 1 Apronic vestgive item 1 SWAT vestadd items 20 1 1,1,00,00 *add random Raider=5+-1+block kill event=anylevel upopen storeadd random Raider=1end event URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=202992#p202992 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: A home for Swamp campaigns
Re: A home for Swamp campaigns Greetings.Can you add me to this folder please?My mail address ismoritz.grandj...@hotmail.comWould be very nice if you could add me.Greetings Moritz. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=202989#p202989 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: A home for Swamp campaigns
2015-01-24
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : keyIsFull via Audiogames-reflector
Re: A home for Swamp campaigns speaking of swamp campaigns, does the new 3.4 version of swamp support the use of all the new weapons in campaigns like the striker? and the combat master? And the other kinds of enemies like raiders? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=202161#p202161 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: A home for Swamp campaigns
2015-01-23
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : CAE_Jones via Audiogames-reflector
Re: A home for Swamp campaigns I guess I could host some of the smaller ones. My host is unclear about their bandwidth policy, so Im afraid of those that include bunches of additional audio. (Ironically, that includes Fyquest, since it has some Castaways sounds, an extra song, etc.)I should upgrade my dropbox. Bandwidth limitations are a pain. But money is a pain, likewise. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=202099#p202099 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: A home for Swamp campaigns
Re: A home for Swamp campaigns @Hacker, yes. As far as I know, the Swamp campaigns are all offline maps, just like the tutorial map you get with Swamp. Actually, you highlight another advantage of more of these campaigns being available, giving more expantion to the offline demo version of the game as well. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=201908#p201908 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: A home for Swamp campaigns
2015-01-22
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : grryfindore via Audiogames-reflector
Re: A home for Swamp campaigns HiAT SLJ, I do believe that you happen to be a member of the folder, but anyway,invite sent.Last poster, invite sent to you,too.At dark, a centralized place to get the campaigns is a good idea I do not disagree with this, however dropbox shared folder which we have acts in a similar manner,but yes one of its limitation Is it needs invites.And it can get a bit of a pain in the arse to manage when there are ideots who can not read a few lines and understand them. Unfortunatly for the folder, when it was created the right access system wasnt in place,so that one could limit members rights to just read and not edit the files.The idea with this folder was the same,of course. People could share their campaigns with their fellow players,without those players going on a long hunt for their topics, links or what have you.Btw, I havent checked but the folder has around 100 members but its not so active anyway. With swamp having gone paid (a mo ve with which I agree 100% although cant get access due to creditcard) I would have thought the campaigns would be played more,but ey. I havent really had the time to be around as I said in the post above.grryf URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=202040#p202040 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: A home for Swamp campaigns
Re: A home for Swamp campaigns would bee nice if you coult add me to that dropbox folder too. My E-Mail is: bittnermarce...@googlemail.com URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=201990#p201990 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: A home for Swamp campaigns
Re: A home for Swamp campaigns @Grryf, I do see your point with the dropbox folder, and if you could just bang a link to the folder on Aprones website and people grab the downloads itd be fine, but its all this invite business that causes the problem. After all not everyone who plays swamp is on this forum, or is willing to download a program like dropbox and mess with it.I wonder if this is partly why you havent had as many downloads as you mightve otherwise, heck, Id be glad to play some campaigns myself but I cant even remember if I have a dropbox account, let alone want to prat around with all the invite and transfer shenanigans, plus I do worry with dorpbox about how long hosting will be available.I will say this is an advantage of sendspace, you can have a folder of streight up downloads, though ideally itd be better if the files were hosted somewhere with no adds or lag for none members like Soundrts maps. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=202048#p202048 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: A home for Swamp campaigns
Re: A home for Swamp campaigns Hi.I can host such a site on my website. It would be nice if I could get an invite to the Dropbox folder so I can download the campaigns, and it would be great if someone would sort the stuff in the folder.My mail address is: slj at coolfortheblind.dk URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=201837#p201837 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: A home for Swamp campaigns
2015-01-21
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : hacker via Audiogames-reflector
Re: A home for Swamp campaigns Total noob question: are these campeign files the ones you can freely play offline URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=201844#p201844 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: A home for Swamp campaigns
Re: A home for Swamp campaigns Hi.I have to talk to my friend about this, but we might be able to host such a site on our already running website. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=201584#p201584 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: A home for Swamp campaigns
Re: A home for Swamp campaigns My problem with dropbox Grryf is as you said people need invites. Suppose joe blogs who has never heard of this forum comes along and wants to play swamp campaigns, where does he get them? Heck, I! sinse I havent been keeping up with the Swamp topics am not sure who has created what in terms fof campaigns which is why I would like a better organized archive of where to get them similar to the ones for Sound Rts and tactical battle maps.Thats why even if dropbox hosted the files Id prefer a propper page with download links and no invites or accounts required, or similar that Aprone could put a link to on the swamp section of his audiogames page and that I could put a link to in the Db.After all what is the point of making a campaign if only your four or five forum buddies who you send it to play it? @Slj, if you could see about hosting and some sort of centralized archive that would be awsome. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=201596#p201596 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: A home for Swamp campaigns
Re: A home for Swamp campaigns I hope to see a central place for downloading completed swamp campaigns too.thanks dark for creating a topic about it URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=201568#p201568 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: A home for Swamp campaigns
2015-01-18
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : grryfindore via Audiogames-reflector
Re: A home for Swamp campaigns Hi,I created a dropbox folder to do just that, have a place that would contain all the swamp campaigns, bunch of code that would be useful to campaign writers, I.E item list,special items etc.However, what with uni extra classes and stuff, I really havent had the time to keep it organized, and it has turned into quite a mess.However, it still has some good campaigns like the pyramid, Fyquest (one of the campaigns I really like, I would go so far as to say the best out of them all.) and quite a few more that I cant remember right now.At first I had decided that all campaigns would be compressed with all their files and sounds,and in order to keep the folder small, campaigns that were quite big would have a file containing a link to themNow its random campaign text files,with just their sounds zipped and unnecessary sounds which were already included in swamp were included as well for some reason that is not clear to me.If someon e is willing to reorganize it and stuff, I am willing to pass on ownership and admin rights to them, as it stands I hardly do anything with it at all. Not that I wouldnt like to,but alas I dont have the time toOf course, if you just want to create a webpage for them, host them somewhere, feel free to do so, and if you dont already have access to them write to me to get a inviteE-mail preferred as I dont really check my pm that oftengrryf URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=201566#p201566 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
A home for Swamp campaigns
A home for Swamp campaigns I know people have been passing their finished swamp campaigns around with dropbox, bt sink or thwatever, but that limits their avaialble to only people on the forum who happen to see the given topic and grab the stuff in time. As swamp has an official site and so on, itd be nice if there was some central place to stick campaign map files where people could download them, rather like the way you can download Tactical battle and Sound rts maps from the respective developers websites. Even if Aprone wasnt able to host such an archive, perhaps someone else could setup the site and Aprone could link to it? Either way, as Swamp has the capacity to make campaigns its a shame that so many of them dont get the airing they deserve, the same is true for Adventure at C: extra stages, but that is a different topic. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=201505#p201505 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
