Re: Question about two different processors
Re: Question about two different processors Glad you were able to find your rated RAM voltage; as to 1866 VS 1600MHZ however, it's been talked about allot lately on various technology forums and youtube channels... The final verdict being that you won't notice much of a difference unless it's a really big jump, 1333 to 2400MHZ, for instance, and the extra price just isn't worth it.Besides, it's hard to find 1866MHZ RAM for laptops anyway, so your best bet is just to get higher quality, non default RAM.If you really are maxing out your RAM on simple things like opening web pages, then you should try harder to disable services, using the "black viper" site as a reference; and while I know you said allot of them are driver's, even some of those can be disabled, like fax, remote desktop, drive encryption, and the GUI's for mouse and graphics card drivers.If you really want 8GB of RAM though, then go for something cheap and good, like the ones I listed, and use dual channel. As long as you have the money, it can't hurt to add more... URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=248202#p248202 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Question about two different processors
Re: Question about two different processors hi,With CPUZ, I did a scan and it reported that the nominal voltage of my memory slots was 1.35 volts. So I will need to get modjules rated as 1.35 volts. I have many driver services running in the background, some of which I can't disable. I want to upgrade my ram because frequently I find myself reaching it's limit when opening large documents, webpages etc. Also the added benefits of using dual channel memory. Additionally, I found out my motherboard can take 1866 mhz ram. Would adding that type of ram by replacing both sticks give a good performance increase? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=248123#p248123 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Question about two different processors
Re: Question about two different processors hi,With CPUZ, I did a scan and it reported that the nominal voltage of my memory slots was 1.35 volts. So I will need to get modjules rated as 1.35 volts. I have many driver services running in the background, some of which I can't disable. I want to upgrade my ram because frequently I find myself reaching it's limit when opening large documents, webpages etc. Also the added benefits of using dual channel memory. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=248123#p248123 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Question about two different processors
Re: Question about two different processors It should say the exact voltage somewhere...Either way if your upgrading, just check your motherboard's specifications online using the model number.You can also disable allot of useless programs that run on startup and leech your RAM, instead of paying for more.Try "msconfig" and "services.msc" just don't disable anything you don't understand without making a system restore point before hand, and make sure to check the "black viper" website for the safest services to disable in your version of Windows.It can really help allot! URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=248052#p248052 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Question about two different processors
Re: Question about two different processors It should say the exact voltage somewhere...Either way if your upgrading, just check your motherboard's specifications online using the model number.You can also disable allot of useless programs that run on startup and leech your RAM, instead of paying for more.Try "msconfig" and "services.msc" just don't disable anything you don't understand without making a system restore point before hand, and try checking the "black viper" website for the safest services to disable in your version of Windows.It can really help allot! URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=248052#p248052 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Question about two different processors
Re: Question about two different processors hi,If specsie and CPUZ isn't reading the l part, how can I know if my ram is a ddr3 or ddr3l? Also I definately want to upgrade the ram as I max it out when opening large documents and webpages. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=248015#p248015 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Question about two different processors
Re: Question about two different processors I just read something that said you can use slightly higher voltage RAM with a processor, but the motherboard it's self may prevent the laptop from booting with it, so I'm assuming that yours does support it but you should check, Speccy may just not be reading it right.I don't think they would put over voltage memory in if they knew it would damage the computer, so either it's not showing the L part or it's seen as an acceptable risk by the manufacturer.Using dual channels would give you a bit extra performance yes, not allot, but a bit. And since your only using 4GB of RAM for the foreseeable future anyway, that should be fine, since you won't need to add more.CL11 is slow, CL 7 is fast, CL9 is average, it's much cheaper for them to give you shitty RAM by default in a laptop. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=247996#p247996 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Question about two different processors
Re: Question about two different processors I just read something that said you can use slightly higher voltage RAM with a processor, but the motherboard it's self may prevent the laptop from booting with it, so I'm assuming that yours does support it but you should check, Speccy may just not be reading it right.I don't think they would put over voltage memory in if they knew it would damage the computer, so either it's not showing the L part or it's seen as an acceptable risk by the manufacturer.Using dual channels would give you a bit extra performance yes, not allot, but a bit.CL11 is slow, CL 7 is fast, CL9 is average, it's much cheaper for them to give you shitty RAM by default in a laptop. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=247996#p247996 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Question about two different processors
Re: Question about two different processors I don't think they would put over voltage memory in if they knew it would damage the computer, so either it's not showing the L part or it's seen as an acceptable risk by the manufacturer.Using dual channels would give you a bit extra yes, not allot, but a bit.CL11 is slow, CL 7 is fast, CL9 is average, it's much cheaper for them to give you shitty RAM by default in a laptop. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=247996#p247996 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Question about two different processors
Re: Question about two different processors I don't think they would put over voltage memory in if they knew it would damage the computer, so either it's not showing the L part or it's seen as an acceptable risk by the manufacturer.Using dual channels would give you a bit extra yes, not allot, but a bit.CL11 is slow, CL 7 is fast, CL9 is average, it's much cheaper for them to give you shitty RAM by default. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=247996#p247996 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Question about two different processors
Re: Question about two different processors hi,When I used specsie to id the memory I had, ıt showed as ddr3 not ddr3l. is this harmful to my computer? Does this mean I need to get a 4 gb ddr3 stick as well? Btw, the 4 gb I have on my pc is a single stick. So my pc is operating at single channel memory. Would having dual channel memory by adding another stick significantly improve responsiveness by increasing total bandwidth? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=247968#p247968 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Question about two different processors
Re: Question about two different processors hi,When I used specsie to id the memory I had, ıt showed as ddr3 not ddr3l. is this harmful to my computer? Does this mean I need to get a 4 gb ddr3 stick as well? Btw, the 4 gb I have on my pc is a single stick. So my pc is operating at single channel memory. Would having dual channel memory by adding another stick significantly improve responsiveness by increasing total bandwidth? Also, when I checked the clock rate of my memory it was 11 clocks. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=247968#p247968 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Question about two different processors
Re: Question about two different processors They probably didn't do that since it would be kind of a waste of time, it was probably 1 of 2 things; A. Your version of the same laptop was made earlier or later than the others and therefore had slightly different hardware; or B. It was the same exact model but configured differently from the factory.If you don't do any of the activities that I listed above, than no, more RAM isn't worth it, but you should certainly consider upgrading your current RAM to something with a higher clock rate AKA lower latency as I mentioned, since your getting an SSD anyway and they can only compliment each other.The best latency of DDR3L 1600MHZ I've been able to find is CL9 which isn't outstanding, and is probably limited by the voltage or something, but your default is probably CL11, which sucks, so that's still pretty okay.So try "Crucial Ballistix Sport" and the standard, non ripjaws, G.SKILL line, their both quite cheap and goo d.If you want to add some anyway though, then that frequency and brand of RAM will work perfectly, but you do need to pay attention to voltage, as 3rd generation Ivy bridge processors used 1.5V RAM, while 4th and 5th generation Hazwell and Broadwell processors use 1.35V RAM and 6th generation Skylake processors use 1.2V RAM.Yes, you can sometimes use higher voltage RAM, but it's apparently not very good for your motherboard, so it's just safer not to. Which means you should be using DDR3L not regular DDR3, L stands for low voltage, 1.35V.In terms of the SSD, go right ahead and use an 850 Evo if you can afford it, especially if it's on sail, the other ones I listed were just class pacing and slightly cheaper alternatives, but that's a great drive! and as you said it has a good warranty...That said, you probably shouldn't ever pay more than 80 bucks for a 120/128GB SSD, so what ever price you found it for should fact or in. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=247952#p247952 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Question about two different processors
Re: Question about two different processors They probably didn't do that since it would be kind of a waste of time, it was probably 1 of 2 things; A. Your version of the same laptop was made earlier or later than the others and therefore had slightly different hardware; or B. It was the same exact model but configured differently from the factory.If you don't do any of the activities that I listed above, than no, more RAM isn't worth it, but you should certainly consider upgrading your current RAM to something with a higher clock rate AKA lower latency as I mentioned, since your getting an SSD anyway and they can only compliment each other.The best latency of DDR3L 1600MHZ I've been able to find is CL9 which isn't outstanding, and is probably limited by the voltage or something, but your default is probably CL11, which sucks, so that's still pretty okay.So try "Crucial Ballistix Sport" and the standard, non ripjaws, G.SKILL line, their both quite cheap and goo d.If you want to add some anyway though, then that frequency and brand of RAM will work perfectly, but you do need to pay attention to voltage, as 3rd generation Ivy bridge processors used 1.5V RAM, while 4th and 5th generation Hazwell and Broadwell processors use 1.35V RAM and 6th generation Skylake processors use 1.2V RAM.Yes, you can sometimes use higher voltage RAM, but it's apparently not very good for your motherboard, so it's just safer not to. Which means you should be using DDR3L not regular DDR3, L stands for low voltage, 1.35V.In terms of the SSD, go right ahead and use an 850 Evo if you can afford it, especially if it's on sail, the other ones I listed were just class pacing and slightly cheaper alternatives, but that's a great drive! and as you said it has a good warranty...That said, you probably shouldn't ever pay more than 80 bucks for a 120/128GB SSD, so what ever price you found it for should factor in. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=247952#p247952 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Question about two different processors
Re: Question about two different processors They probably didn't do that since it would be kind of a waste of time, it was probably 1 of 2 things; A. Your version of the same laptop was made earlier or later than the others and therefore had slightly different hardware; or B. It was the same exact model but configured differently from the factory.If you don't do any of the activities that I listed above, than no, more RAM isn't worth it, but you should certainly consider upgrading your current RAM to something with a higher clock rate AKA lower latency as I mentioned, since your getting an SSD anyway and they can only compliment each other.If you want to add some anyway though, then that frequency and brand of RAM will work perfectly, but you do need to pay attention to voltage, as 3rd generation Ivy bridge processors used 1.5V RAM, while 4th and 5th generation Hazwell and Broadwell processors use 1.35V RAM and 6th generation Skylake processors use 1.2V RAM.Yes, you can sometim es use higher voltage RAM, but it's apparently not very good for your motherboard, so it's just safer not to. Which means you should be using DDR3L not regular DDR3, L stands for low voltage, 1.35V.In terms of the SSD, go right ahead and use an 850 Evo if you can afford it, especially if it's on sail, the other ones I listed were just class pacing and slightly cheaper alternatives, but that's a great drive! and as you said it has a good warranty...That said, you probably shouldn't ever pay more than 80 bucks for a 120/128GB SSD, so what ever price you found it for should factor in. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=247952#p247952 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Question about two different processors
Re: Question about two different processors If you don't do any of the activities that I listed above, than no, more RAM isn't worth it, but you should certainly consider upgrading your current RAM to something with a higher clock rate AKA lower latency as I mentioned, since your getting an SSD anyway and they can only compliment each other.If you want to add some anyway though, then that frequency and brand of RAM will work perfectly, but you do need to pay attention to voltage, as 3rd generation Ivy bridge processors used 1.5V RAM, while 4th and 5th generation Hazwell and Broadwell processors use 1.35V RAM and 6th generation Skylake processors use 1.2V RAM.Yes, you can sometimes use higher voltage RAM, but it's apparently not very good for your motherboard, so it's just safer not to. Which means you should be using DDR3L not regular DDR3, L stands for low voltage, 1.35V.In terms of the SSD, go right ahead and use an 850 Evo if you can afford it, especially if it� 39;s on sail, the other ones I listed were just class pacing and slightly cheaper alternatives, but that's a great drive! and as you said it has a good warranty...That said, you probably shouldn't ever pay more than 80 bucks for a 120/128GB SSD, so what ever price you found it for should factor in. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=247952#p247952 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Question about two different processors
Re: Question about two different processors If you don't do any of the activities that I listed above, than no, more RAM isn't worth it, but you should certainly consider upgrading your current RAM to something with a higher clock rate AKA lower latency as I mentioned, since your getting an SSD anyway and they can only compliment each other.If you want to add some anyway though, then that frequency and brand of RAM will work perfectly, but you do need to pay attention to voltage, as 3rd generation Ivy bridge processors used 1.5V RAM, while 4th and 5th generation Hazwell and Broadwell processors use 1.35V RAM and 6th generation Skylake processors use 1.2V RAM.Yes, you can sometimes use higher voltage RAM, but it's apparently not very good for your motherboard, so it's just safer not to. Which means you should be using DDR3L not regular DDR3, L stands for low voltage, 1.35V.In terms of the SSD, go right ahead and use an 850 Evo if you can afford it, especially if it� 39;s on sail, the other ones I listed were just class pacing and slightly cheaper alternatives, but that's a great drive! and as you said it has a good warranty...That said, you probably shouldn't ever pay more than 80 bucks for a 120/128GB SSD. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=247952#p247952 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Question about two different processors
Re: Question about two different processors If you don't do any of the activities that I listed above, than no, more RAM isn't worth it, but you should certainly consider upgrading your current RAM to something with a higher clock rate AKA lower latency as I mentioned, since your getting an SSD anyway and they can only compliment each other.If you want to add some anyway though, then that frequency and brand of RAM will work perfectly, but you do need to pay attention to voltage, as 3rd generation Ivy bridge processors used 1.5V RAM, while 4th and 5th generation Hazwell and Broadwell processors use 1.35V RAM and 6th generation Skylake processors use 1.2V RAM.Yes, you can sometimes use higher voltage RAM, but it's apparently not very good for your motherboard, so it's just safer not to. Which means you should be using DDR3L not regular DDR3, L stands for low voltage, 1.35V.In terms of the SSD, go right ahead and use an 850 Evo if you can afford it, especially if it� 39;s on sail, the other ones I listed were just class pacing and slightly cheaper alternatives, but that's a great drive! and as you said it has a good warranty... URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=247952#p247952 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Question about two different processors
Re: Question about two different processors If you don't do any of the activities that I listed above, than no, more RAM isn't worth it, but you should certainly consider upgrading your current RAM to something with a lower latency as I mentioned, since your getting an SSD anyway and they can only compliment each other.That frequency and brand of RAM will work perfectly, but you do need to pay attention to voltage, as 3rd generation Ivy bridge processors used 1.5V RAM, while 4th and 5th generation Hazwell and Broadwell processors use 1.35V RAM and 6th generation Skylake processors use 1.2V RAM.Yes, you can sometimes use higher voltage RAM, but it's apparently not very good for your motherboard, so it's just safer not to. Which means you should be using DDR3L not regular DDR3, L stands for low voltage, 1.35V.In terms of the SSD, go right ahead and use an 850 Evo if you can afford it, especially if it's on sail, the other ones I listed were just class pacing and slightly cheaper alternatives, but that's a great drive! and as you said it has a good warranty... URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=247952#p247952 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Question about two different processors
Re: Question about two different processors That frequency and brand of RAM will work perfectly, but you do need to pay attention to voltage, as 3rd generation Ivy bridge processors used 1.5V RAM, while 4th and 5th generation Hazwell and Broadwell processors use 1.35V RAM and 6th generation Skylake processors use 1.2V RAM.Yes, you can sometimes use higher voltage RAM, but it's apparently not very good for your motherboard, so it's just safer not to. Which means you should be using DDR3L not regular DDR3, L stands for low voltage, 1.35V.In terms of the SSD, go right ahead and use an 850 Evo if you can afford it, especially if it's on sail, the other ones I listed were just class pacing and slightly cheaper alternatives, but that's a great drive! and as you said it has a good warranty... URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=247952#p247952 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Question about two different processors hi,I suspect that the organization this machine originally came from disassembled it and removed the extra ram and installed the 500 gb harddrive. I don't do audio or video editing with this computer. Would extra ram still be useful? By voltage, wouldn't knowing the ddr type and max frequency of my ram be enough? For instance, I know my computer has 1 4gb ddr3 1600 ram. Wouldn't buying another 4gb ddr3 1600 kingston notebook ram stick do the job. Also, for an ssd, I was thinking of getting the samsung 850 evo 120 gb since it didn't seem so expensive and since it had a good warantee. Is that drive too overpriced? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=247935#p247935 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Question about two different processors
Re: Question about two different processors If your using Windows Vista or later and you often do video or audio editing and conversion of files larger than say, 50MB or more, or you usually have more than 4 windows open at the same time, than you may want to consider adding another 4GB stick, unless you can find one that's 2GB, in which case as long as it's significantly cheaper, you should go with that instead.Just make absolutely sure that the RAM your getting is exactly the same as the RAM you have now, otherwise you could waste your money on something that won't work.It needs to be the same frequency and voltage for sure, but clock rate doesn't matter as much as far as I know. It's also safest to go with the same brand most of the time, unless there's a good return policy and a low restocking fee with the reseller you buy from.You can use "Speccy" portable from piriform.com to find out more, just do a text printout and search the document for keywords.A few different manufacturers also offer downloadable memory checkers, that automatically match you up with the kind of RAM you need, but they usually only show results from their brand, which may not be the best price.If you don't need the extra memory but still want to speed things up a bit, than look up the make of your computer and find the maximum memory frequency, if you can't find it, look instead for the model number of your motherboard and look up it's maximum supported RAM speeds without overclocking, usually indicated with the symbol (OC) as a separator.After that, look up your processor code on arc.intel.com and look at the suggested RAM voltage, then grab a 4GB stick of RAM with a clock rate of CL8 or CL7 and the highest frequency that your computer can use and replace your old RAM with that.It seems difficult but it really only takes 20 minutes or so to find this info if you stick to primary sources like manufacturer websites a nd trusted technology forums such as tom's hardware and Super User.Plus, you should notice a moderate jump in performance that will go well with an SSD and speed up tasks like resuming from sleep and less lag when navigating and beginning playback of large media files or processing PDF's.In terms of an SSD, longevity is key, so comb through user reviews carefully, even with different models in the same line. If the site offers it, sort by most helpful/highest tech experience or longest ownership first and filter out any non verified buyers, disregarding any 1 star reviews completely unless your noticing a trend.Check the specifications and make sure that the Sequential Write speed is above 300MBPS minimum and the drive states a 4KB Random Write Speed of at least 50K-IOPS/5 IOPS. If you can't find those ratings anywhere than search for them on Google and make use of an external site with better info; or look for user benchmarks in the product's reviews.Adata's Premier Pro series, Mushkin's Enhanced, and Sandisk's SSD Plus are all good options for cheaper than Samsung and Intel, and your best bet is a 120/128GB or 240/256GB drive, anything over that and your overspending.Adding an SSD will have you seeing a much larger impact than adding more RAM, but both can be very useful depending on the computer.Try New Egg, Tiger Direct, Frys Electronics, and Micro Center for good deals, and don't forget to check the daily deals and overstock sections of normal stores like Best Buy and Staples. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=247930#p247930 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Question about two different processors
Re: Question about two different processors If your using Windows Vista or later and you often do video or audio editing and conversion of files larger than say, 50MB or more, or you usually have more than 4 windows open at the same time, than you may want to consider adding another 4GB stick, unless you can find one that's 2GB, in which case as long as it's significantly cheaper, you should go with that instead.Just make absolutely sure that the RAM your getting is exactly the same as the RAM you have now, otherwise you could waste your money on something that won't work.It needs to be the same frequency and voltage for sure, but clock rate doesn't matter as much as far as I know. It's also safest to go with the same brand most of the time.You can use "Speccy" portable from piriform.com to find out more, just do a text printout and search the document for keywords.A few different manufacturers also offer downloadable memory checkers, that automatically match you up with the kind of RAM you need, but they usually only show results from their brand, which may not be the best price.If you don't need the extra memory but still want to speed things up a bit, than look up the make of your computer and find the maximum memory frequency, if you can't find it, look instead for the model number of your motherboard and look up it's maximum supported RAM speeds without overclocking, usually indicated with the symbol (OC) as a separator.After that, look up your processor code on arc.intel.com and look at the suggested RAM voltage, then grab a 4GB stick of RAM with a clock rate of CL8 or CL7 and the highest frequency that your computer can use and replace your old RAM with that.It seems difficult but it really only takes 20 minutes or so to find this info if you stick to primary sources like manufacturer websites and trusted technology forums such as tom's hardware and Super User.Plus, you should not ice a moderate jump in performance that will go well with an SSD and speed up tasks like resuming from sleep and less lag when navigating and beginning playback of large media files or processing PDF's.In terms of an SSD, longevity is key, so comb through user reviews carefully, even with different models in the same line. If the site offers it, sort by most helpful/highest tech experience or longest ownership first and filter out any non verified buyers, disregarding any 1 star reviews completely unless your noticing a trend.Check the specifications and make sure that the Sequential Write speed is above 300MBPS minimum and the drive states a 4KB Random Write Speed of at least 50K-IOPS/5 IOPS. If you can't find those ratings anywhere than search for them on Google and make use of an external site with better info; or look for user benchmarks in the product's reviews.Adata's Premier Pro series, Mushkin's Enhanced, and Sandisk's SSD Plus are all good options for cheaper than Samsung and Intel, and your best bet is a 120/128GB or 240/256GB drive, anything over that and your overspending.Adding an SSD will have you seeing a much larger impact than adding more RAM, but both can be very useful depending on the computer.Try New Egg, Tiger Direct, Frys Electronics, and Micro Center for good deals, and don't forget to check the daily deals and overstock sections of normal stores like Best Buy and Staples. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=247930#p247930 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Question about two different processors
Re: Question about two different processors If your using Windows Vista or later and you often do video or audio editing and conversion of files larger than say, 50MB or more, or you usually have more than 4 windows open at the same time, than you may want to consider adding another 4GB stick, unless you can find one that's 2GB, in which case as long as it's significantly cheaper, you should go with that instead.Just make absolutely sure that the RAM your getting is exactly the same as the RAM you have now, otherwise you could waste your money on something that won't work.It needs to be the same frequency and voltage for sure, but clock rate doesn't matter as much as far as I know. It's also safest to go with the same brand most of the time.You can use "Speccy" portable from piriform.com to find out more, just do a text printout and search the document for keywords.A few different manufacturers also offer downloadable memory checkers, that automatically match you up with the kind of RAM you need, but they usually only show results from their brand, which may not be the best price.In terms of an SSD, longevity is key, so comb through user reviews carefully, even with different models in the same line. If the site offers it, sort by most helpful/highest tech experience or longest ownership first and filter out any non verified buyers, disregarding any 1 star reviews completely unless your noticing a trend.Check the specifications and make sure that the Sequential Write speed is above 300MBPS minimum and the drive states a 4KB Random Write Speed of at least 50K-IOPS/5 IOPS. If you can't find those ratings anywhere than search for them on Google and make use of an external site with better info; or look for user benchmarks in the product's reviews.Adata's Premier Pro series, Mushkin's Enhanced, and Sandisk's SSD Plus are all good options for cheaper than Samsung and Intel, and your best bet is a 120/128GB or 240/256GB drive, anything over that and your overspending.Adding an SSD will have you seeing a much larger impact than adding more RAM, but both can be very useful depending on the computer.Try New Egg, Tiger Direct, Frys Electronics, and Micro Center for good deals, and don't forget to check the daily deals and overstock sections of normal stores like Best Buy and Staples. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=247930#p247930 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Question about two different processors
Re: Question about two different processors If your using Windows Vista or later and you often do video or audio editing and conversion of files larger than say, 50MB or more, or you usually have more than 4 windows open at the same time, than you may want to consider adding another 4GB stick, unless you can find one that's 2GB, in which case as long as it's significantly cheaper, you should go with that instead.Just make absolutely sure that the RAM your getting is exactly the same as the RAM you have now, otherwise you could waste your money on something that won't work.It needs to be the same frequency and voltage for sure, but clock rate doesn't matter as much as far as I know. It's also safest to go with the same brand most of the time.You can use "Speccy" portable from piriform.com to find out more, just do a text printout and search the document for keywords.A few different manufacturers also offer downloadable memory checkers, that automatically match you up with the kind of RAM you need, but they usually only show results from their brand, which may not be the best price.In terms of an SSD, longevity is key, so comb through user reviews carefully, even with different models in the same line. If the site offers it, sort by most helpful/highest tech experience or longest ownership first and filter out any non verified buyers, disregarding any 1 star reviews completely unless your noticing a trend.Check the specifications and make sure that the Sequential Write speed is above 300MBPS minimum and the drive states a 4KB Random Write Speed of at least 50K-IOPS/5 IOPS. If you can't find those ratings anywhere than search for them on Google and make use of an external site with better info.Adata's Premier Pro series, Mushkin's Enhanced, and Sandisk's SSD Plus are all good options for cheaper than Samsung and Intel, and your best bet is a 120/128GB or 240/256GB drive, anything over that and your overspending.Adding an SSD will have you seeing a much larger impact than adding more RAM, but both can be very useful depending on the computer.Try New Egg, Tiger Direct, Frys Electronics, and Micro Center for good deals, and don't forget to check the daily deals and overstock sections of normal stores like Best Buy and Staples. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=247930#p247930 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Question about two different processors
Re: Question about two different processors If your using Windows Vista or later and you often do video or audio editing and conversion of files larger than say, 50MB or more, or you usually have more than 4 windows open at the same time, than you may want to consider adding another 4GB stick, unless you can find one that's 2GB, in which case as long as it's significantly cheaper, you should go with that instead.Just make absolutely sure that the RAM your getting is exactly the same as the RAM you have now, otherwise you could waste your money on something that won't work.It needs to be the same frequency and voltage for sure, but clock rate doesn't matter as much as far as I know. It's also safest to go with the same brand most of the time.You can use "Speccy" portable from piriform.com to find out more, just do a text printout and search the document for keywords.A few different manufacturers also offer downloadable memory checkers, that automatically match you up with the kind of RAM you need, but they usually only show results from their brand, which may not be the best price.In terms of an SSD, quality is key, so comb through user reviews carefully, even with different models in the same line. If the site offers it, sort by most helpful/highest tech experience or longest ownership first and filter out any non verified buyers, disregarding any 1 star reviews completely unless your noticing a trend.Adata's Premier Pro series, Mushkin's Enhanced, and Sandisk's SSD Plus are all good options for cheaper than Samsung and Intel, and your best bet is a 120/128GB or 240/256GB drive, anything over that and your overspending.Adding an SSD will have you seeing a much larger impact than adding more RAM, but both can be very useful depending on the computer.Try New Egg, Tiger Direct, Frys Electronics, and Micro Center for good deals, and don't forget to check the daily deals and overstock s ections of normal stores like Best Buy and Staples. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=247930#p247930 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Question about two different processors
Re: Question about two different processors If your using Windows Vista or later and you often do video or audio editing and conversion of files larger than say, 50MB or more, or you usually have more than 4 windows open at the same time, than you may want to consider adding another 4GB stick, unless you can find one that's 2GB, in which case as long as it's significantly cheaper, you should go with that instead.Just make absolutely sure that the RAM your getting is exactly the same as the RAM you have now, otherwise you could waste your money on something that won't work.It needs to be the same frequency and voltage for sure, but clock rate doesn't matter as much as far as I know. It's also safest to go with the same brand most of the time.You can use "Speccy" portable from piriform.com to find out more, just do a text printout and search the document for keywords.A few different manufacturers also offer downloadable memory checkers, that automatically match you up with the kind of RAM you need, but they usually only show results from their brand, which may not be the best price.In terms of an SSD, quality is key, so comb through user reviews carefully, even with different models in the same line.Adata's Premier Pro series, Mushkin's Enhanced, and Sandisk's SSD Plus are all good options for cheaper than Samsung and Intel, and your best bet is a 120/128GB or 240/256GB drive, anything over that and your overspending.Adding an SSD will have you seeing a much larger impact than adding more RAM, but both can be very useful depending on the computer.Try New Egg, Tiger Direct, Frys Electronics, and Micro Center for good deals, and don't forget to check the daily deals and overstock sections of normal stores like Best Buy and Staples. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=247930#p247930 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Question about two different processors
Re: Question about two different processors hi,I would like to take this topic to ask a question about my new laptop. So this laptop was a gift from someone who got it as a gift from an organisation. The original specs were 1 tb 5400 rpm harddrive, i5 4200m processor, 8 gb of memory, nvidia geforce gt740m with 2 gb of gddr5 graphics memory. however the organisation apparently had these machines custom configured because my machine has different specs than the original. My machine has 4 gb of ddr3 memory and a 500 gb 7200 rpm harddrive. My question is is it worth it to install another 4 gb memory modjule and upgrade this machine to an ssd? I read on the internet that memory boosts over 4 gb for daily use do not yield a significant performance improvement. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=247922#p247922 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Question about two different processors
Re: Question about two different processors The internal specs are fine for that one, but it's a 17.3 inch screen, which means the laptop is going to be significantly heavier, harder to fit in a backpack or find a sleeve for, and will probably have less battery life.If you want one that you can also use for things other than gaming and watching movies and TV shows on, you should get a 15.6 Inch, like the ones I mentioned above, otherwise it isn't a true laptop and you may as well get a desktop.Make sure to do your own research though and don't take only my word for it, none of the computers I listed are perfect, so you should look at customer and professional reviews and decide which one you personally like the most. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=247312#p247312 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Question about two different processors
Re: Question about two different processors Try computerupgradeking.comTheir site provides third-party assistance for upgrading base models for a decent price for the service of ramping up those specs if you're interested.Best Regards,Luke URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=247316#p247316 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Question about two different processors
Re: Question about two different processors The internal specs are fine for that one, but it's a 17.3 inch screen, which means the laptop is going to be significantly heavier, harder to fit in a backpack or find a sleeve for, and will probably have less battery life.If you want one that you can also use for things other than gaming and watching movies and TV shows on, you should get a 15.6 Inch, like the ones I mentioned above, otherwise it isn't a true laptop and you may as well get a desktop. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=247312#p247312 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Question about two different processors
Re: Question about two different processors The internal specs are fine for that one, but it's a 17.3 inch screen, which means the laptop is going to be significantly heavier, harder to fit in a backpack or find a sleeve for, and will probably have less battery life.If you want a laptop that you can also use for things other than gaming and watching movies and TV shows on, you should get a 15.6 Inch, like the ones I mentioned above, otherwise it isn't a true laptop and you may as well get a desktop. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=247312#p247312 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Question about two different processors
Re: Question about two different processors Hi defender, thanks for all that help, I will see how configuring these modelg will work out.The asus laptop I told about in the previous post of mine has an 128gb ssd and an 1tb harddrive build in.For the processor, we have an intel core I7 s6000 something k, from the skylake generation, base tact at 2.6 and with turbo boost up to 3.5 ghz.For the graphics card we have an gNvidia gForce gtx 960m, and a ddr3 ram of 8 gigabytes, windows 10 is already installed.That sounding good? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=247302#p247302 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Question about two different processors
Re: Question about two different processors Okay, I found 3 models for you, in order of best to pretty good, and they're were others, from Asus and Lenovo, that were nice but unfortunately had problems, so I eliminated them.I couldn't get you exact configurations, since they vary by country, which was why your results only came up as German, because of the letters at the end of the model number. But that lets you choose what you want for the amount of money you have as well.I suggest going through a 3rd party reseller like Newegg or Amazon, or what ever is better in Germany, if you want to get the best pricing.When at all possible, if you have the money and the configuration is supported in your country, get an SSD, weather it's by it's self or has a companion HDD.The difference between I5 and I7 processors is currently, and has been, negligible in Hazwell onward, especially in laptops.Go for 5th and 6th generation processors, Broadwell and Skylake, over 4th generation ones, Hazwell.You only need 8GB of system memory for most things, and you should go for 12GB over 16GB if you want more, since otherwise your getting ripped off.Go for 970M, 960M, and R9 graphics over 950M and R7 graphics.Go for GDDR5 over DDR3 VRAM for your graphics card, even if they're is more DDR3.Choose FHD 1920 by 1080 resolution over UHD 4K resolution, it's allot more power efficient, way less expensive and still doesn't look bad at all.Now that that's out of the way, here are the models, in order.MSI GE62 Apache-276Dell Inspiron i7559-763BLKAcer Aspire V15 Nitro Black Edition VN7-592GI really hope this helps, but keep in mind that configuring these can be tricky and you may need to do it over the phone, since each manufacturer has a different process and it's usually not accessible. That said however, it's certainly worth it to get exactly what you want and can afford, e ven if you need sited help to do it. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=247297#p247297 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Question about two different processors
Re: Question about two different processors Okay, I found 3 models for you, in order of best to pretty good, and they're were others, from Asus and Lenovo, that were nice but unfortunately had problems, so I eliminated them.I couldn't get you exact configurations, since they vary by country, which was why your results only came up as German, because of the letters at the end of the model number. But that lets you choose what you want for the amount of money you have as well.I suggest going through a 3rd party reseller like Newegg or Amazon, or what ever is better in Germany, if you want to get the best pricing.When at all possible, if you have the money and the configuration is supported in your country, get an SSD, weather it's by it's self or has a companion HDD.The difference between I5 and I7 processors is currently, and has been, negligible in Hazwell onward, especially in laptops.Go for 5th and 6th generation processors, Broadwell and Skylake, over 4th generation ones, Hazwell, Hazwell Refresh, and Crystalwell.You only need 8GB of system memory for most things, and you should go for 12GB over 16GB if you want more, since otherwise your getting ripped off.Go for 970M, 960M, and R9 graphics over 950M and R7 graphics.Go for GDDR5 over DDR3 VRAM for your graphics card, even if they're is more DDR3.Choose FHD 1920 by 1080 resolution over UHD 4K resolution, it's allot more power efficient, way less expensive and still doesn't look bad at all.Now that that's out of the way, here are the models, in order.MSI GE62 Apache-276Dell Inspiron i7559-763BLKAcer Aspire V15 Nitro Black Edition VN7-592GI really hope this helps, but keep in mind that configuring these can be tricky and you may need to do it over the phone, since each manufacturer has a different process and it's usually not accessible. That said however, it's certainly worth it to get exact ly what you want and can afford, even if you need sited help to do it. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=247297#p247297 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Question about two different processors
Re: Question about two different processors Okay, I found 3 models for you, in order of best to pretty good, and they're were others, from Asus and Lenovo, that were nice but unfortunately had problems, so I eliminated them.I couldn't get you exact configurations, since they vary by country, which was why your results only came up as German, because of the letters at the end of the model number. But that lets you choose what you want for the amount of money you have as well.I suggest going through a 3rd party reseller like Newegg or Amazon, or what ever is better in Germany, if you want to get the best pricing.When at all possible, if you have the money and the configuration is supported in your country, get an SSD, weather it's by it's self or has a companion HDD.Go for 5th and 6th generation processors, Broadwell and Skylake, over 4th generation ones, Hazwell.You only need 8GB of system memory for most things, and you should go for 12GB over 16GB if you want more, since ot herwise your getting ripped off.Go for 970M, 960M, and R9 graphics over 950M and R7 graphics.Go for GDDR5 over DDR3 VRAM for your graphics card, even if they're is more DDR3.Choose FHD 1920 by 1080 resolution over UHD 4K resolution, it's allot more power efficient, way less expensive and still doesn't look bad at all.Now that that's out of the way, here are the models, in order.MSI GE62 Apache-276Dell Inspiron i7559-763BLKAcer Aspire V15 Nitro Black Edition VN7-592GI really hope this helps, but keep in mind that configuring these can be tricky and you may need to do it over the phone, since each manufacturer has a different process and it's usually not accessible. That said however, it's certainly worth it to get exactly what you want and can afford, even if you need sited help to do it. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=247297#p247297 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Question about two different processors
Re: Question about two different processors Okay, I found 3 models for you, in order of best to pretty good, and they're were others, from Asus and Lenovo, that were nice but unfortunately had problems, so I eliminated them.I couldn't get you exact configurations, since they vary by country, which was why your results only came up as German, because of the letters at the end of the model number. But that lets you choose what you want for the amount of money you have as well.I suggest going through a 3rd party reseller like Newegg or Amazon, or what ever is better in Germany, if you want to get the best pricing.When at all possible, if you have the money and the configuration is supported in your country, get an SSD, weather it's by it's self or has a companion HDD.Go for 5th and 6th generation processors, Broadwell and Skylake, over 4th generation ones, Hazwell.You only need 8GB of system memory for most things, and you should go for 12GB over 16GB if you want more, since ot herwise your getting ripped off.Go for 970M, 960M, and R9 graphics over 950M and R7 graphics.Go for GDDR5 over DDR3 VRAM for your graphics card, even if they're is more DDR3.Choose FHD 1920 by 1080 resolution over UHD 4K resolution, it's allot more power efficient, way less expensive and still doesn't look bad at all.Now that that's out of the way, here are the models, in order.MSI GE62 Apache-276Acer Aspire V15 Nitro Black Edition VN7-592GDell Inspiron i7559-763BLKI really hope this helps, but keep in mind that configuring these can be tricky and you may need to do it over the phone, since each manufacturer has a different process and it's usually not accessible. That said however, it's certainly worth it to get exactly what you want and can afford, even if you need sited help to do it. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=247297#p247297 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Question about two different processors
Re: Question about two different processors Okay, I found 3 models for you, in order of best to pretty good, and they're were others, from Asus and Dell, that were nice but unfortunately had problems, so I eliminated them.I couldn't get you exact configurations, since they vary by country, which was why your results only came up as German, because of the letters at the end of the model number. But that lets you choose what you want for the amount of money you have as well.I suggest going through a 3rd party reseller like Newegg or Amazon, or what ever is better in Germany, if you want to get the best pricing.When at all possible, if you have the money and the configuration is supported in your country, get an SSD, weather it's by it's self or has a companion HDD.Go for 5th and 6th generation processors, Broadwell and Skylake, over 4th generation ones, Hazwell.You only need 8GB of system memory for most things, and you should go for 12GB over 16GB if you want more, since othe rwise your getting ripped off.Go for 970M, 960M, and R9 graphics over 950M and R7 graphics.Go for GDDR5 over DDR3 VRAM for your graphics card, even if they're is more DDR3.Choose FHD 1920 by 1080 resolution over UHD 4K resolution, it's allot more power efficient, way less expensive and still doesn't look bad at all.Now that that's out of the way, here are the models, in order.MSI GE62 Apache-276Acer Aspire V15 Nitro Black Edition VN7-592GLenovo Ideapad Y700 15I really hope this helps, but keep in mind that configuring these can be tricky and you may need to do it over the phone, since each manufacturer has a different process and it's usually not accessible. That said however, it's certainly worth it to get exactly what you want and can afford, even if you need sited help to do it. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=247297#p247297 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Question about two different processors
Re: Question about two different processors Okay, I found 3 models for you, in order of best to pretty good, and they're were others, from Asus and Dell, that were nice but unfortunately had problems, so I eliminated them.I couldn't get you exact configurations, since they vary by country, which was why your results only came up as German, because of the letters at the end of the model number. But that lets you choose what you want for the amount of money you have as well.I suggest going through a 3rd party reseller like Newegg or Amazon, or what ever is better in Germany, if you want to get the best pricing.When at all possible, if you have the money and the configuration is supported in your country, get an SSD, weather it's by it's self or has a companion HDD.Go for 5th and 6th generation processors, Broadwell and Skylake, over 4th generation ones, Hazwell.You only need 8GB of system memory for most things, and you should go for 12GB over 16GB if you want more, since othe rwise your getting ripped off.Go for 970M, 960M, and R9 graphics over 950M and R7 graphics.Go for GDDR5 over DDR3 VRAM for your graphics card, even if they're is more DDR3.Choose FHD 1920 by 1080 resolution over UHD 4K resolution, it's allot more power efficient, way less expensive and still doesn't look bad at all.Now that that's out of the way, here are the models, in order.MSI GE62 Apache-276Acer Aspire V15 Nitro Black Edition VN7-592GLenovo Ideapad Y700 15I really hope this helps, but keep in mind that configuring these can be tricky and you may need to do it over the phone, since each manufacturer has a different process and it's usually not accessible. That said however, it's certainly worth it to get exactly what you want and can afford, even if you need sited help to do it. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=247297#p247297 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Question about two different processors
Re: Question about two different processors Okay, I found 3 models for you, in order of best to pretty good, and they're were others, from Asus and Dell, that were good but had problems, so I eliminated them.I couldn't get you exact configurations, since they vary by country, which was why your results only came up as German, because of the letters at the end of the model number. But that lets you choose what you want for the amount of money you have as well.I suggest going through a 3rd party reseller like Newegg or Amazon, or what ever is better in Germany, if you want to get the best pricing.When at all possible, if you have the money and the configuration is supported in your country, get an SSD, weather it's by it's self or has a companion HDD.Go for 5th and 6th generation processors, Broadwell and Skylake, over 4th generation ones, Hazwell.You only need 8GB of system memory for most things, and you should go for 12GB over 16GB if you want more, since otherwise your get ting ripped off.Go for 970M, 960M, and R9 graphics over 950M and R7 graphics.Go for GDDR5 over DDR3 VRAM for your graphics card, even if they're is more DDR3.Choose FHD 1920 by 1080 resolution over UHD 4K resolution, it's allot more power efficient, way less expensive and still doesn't look bad at all.Now that that's out of the way, here are the models, in order.MSI GE62 Apache-276Acer Aspire V15 Nitro Black Edition VN7-592GLenovo Ideapad Y700 15I really hope this helps, but keep in mind that configuring these can be tricky and you may need to do it over the phone, since each manufacturer has a different process and it's usually not accessible. That said however, it's certainly worth it to get exactly what you want and can afford, even if you need sited help to do it. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=247297#p247297 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Question about two different processors Hi.Na, building one myself will not work out good, I am far to inexperienced for that.I have searched around the internet abit and found two laptops that seem to meet the reqironments I am searching for.I am posting the names in here, sadly though I can't post full links, due to the fact that I am just getting german results for the two machines when I google for them, and I guess these don't help anyone than me.It would be cool if someone could check these machines with a more pproffessional knoledge then mine and tell me what they think of them. The two machines are.asus ROG GL752VW-T4091TAser Aspire V Nitro Black Edition VN7-592G-74H8 URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=247273#p247273 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Question about two different processors
Re: Question about two different processors I'm going to have some laptop suggestions for you in my next post Simba, this is just a response to leibylucwgamer and CW.I was tempted to say the same thing about desktops, but if you really look into it like I have been over the last year or so, almost all prebuilt gaming boxes have at least 2 or 3 crappy parts that mess up the hole unit, a stock CPU cooler with accompanying thermal paste, a significantly underpowered PSU with absolutely no breathing room for new parts, cheap cooling fans, a case with bad air dynamics and not many internal expansion options, extremely limited configuration choices most of the time, ETC, so the best idea is to build your own, but based on the OP's level of experience, that doesn't seem to be an option that would appeal to him.And even if you DIY, your still probably going to be spending at least 800 bucks for all of the things you need for an actually decent mid level gaming rig.I'm talking abou t a decent sized, 64GB or hopefully higher SSD boot drive that can transfer at least 450MB/S sequential R/RW, able to perform at least 60K IOPS R/RW, a main drive if needed of at least 1TB equipped with a 64MB cash and a spindle speed of 7200RPM, a motherboard with a decent amount of actual USB connections and not just dual headers, 2 PCE2.0 or 3.0 ports capable of dual X8 speeds or higher and maybe a PCI slot for legacy tech, 3 fan connections, hopefully PWM, at least 4 SATA III headers and a decent built in audio codec, like Realtek 892, Asus Crystal Sound, Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi, ETC, an I5 4th gen or FX 4300 CPU minimum, a decent aftermarket CPU cooler that pushes at least 45CFM at under 28DBA max, 500W 80+ bronze certified PSU or better, 8GB DDR3 or DDR4 memory with a frequency of 1600MHZ plus and a clock rate of at least 9, A GPU with at least 2GB GDDR5 VRAM with a base clock rate of 1020MHZ plus, able to support DX10 or higher and some decent fans with PWM su pport, 120MM plus that can push or pull at least 35CFM at less than 28DBA max, a case that has some front panel USB 3.0 ports and audio in/out with at least 4 expansion slots, 1 external 5.25 bay, 1 2.5 Inch internal bay if possible, and 3 3.5 inch internal bays minimum, with a decent amount of space so probably ATX mid tower, and made of something that isn't 75 percent plastic and isn't full of unnecessary dust intake vents or a million fan mounts that no one will ever use. Pretty basic stuff for the modern age I'd think, but it all racks up pretty fast, so the myth about being able to build a decent gaming or workstation PC for a hoole lot less than just buying a laptop is pretty much crap. That isn't to say that desktops don't have advantages but the price thing is not one of them unless you are utterly hopeless at finding deals. Also, gaming laptops have gotten noticeably better in the past 2 years from what I've seen, especially when it comes to cooling and weight, and while they obviously aren't the same thing as a desktop just do to the lack of expansion and repair options down the road and the inherent performance gap of a mobile processor VS a desktop processor, they still hold their own these days, probably do to the new developments in technology stemming from the increased competition as companies like HP, Acer and Lenovo join the bandwagon with an on the go gaming offering of their own.It's no longer just Asus with there incredibly popular republic of gamers line, MSI with all of those awesomely named models that seem to come out every year, and Dell, which by the way bought Alienware a few years ago.You should really take a look at the comparisons on notebookcheck.net because they give real world performance benchmarks with various games using various mobile graphics cards. And if you want to cross reference that, then try GPU Boss, which is another great site.You'll see that most laptops now, at least those with 2GB GDDR5 VRAM or higher, can hit that 60FPS on 1920 by 1080 resolution sweet spot pretty easily on most games, E.G. those with actually reasonable system requirements, and therefore outperform both the PS4 and XBox which can only reach 30FPS at the same pixel density. Something which many console gamers seem to be just fine with even with the mixed blessing of a wider screen... URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=247253#p247253 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Question about two different processors
Re: Question about two different processors I'm going to have some laptop suggestions for you in my next post Simba, this is just a response to leibylucwgamer and CW.I was tempted to say the same thing about desktops, but if you really look into it like I have been over the last year or so, almost all prebuilt gaming boxes have at least 2 or 3 crappy parts that mess up the hole unit, a stock CPU cooler with accompanying thermal paste, a significantly underpowered PSU with absolutely no breathing room for new parts, cheap cooling fans, a case with bad air dynamics and not many internal expansion options, extremely limited configuration choices most of the time, ETC, so the best idea is to build your own, but based on the OP's level of experience, that doesn't seem to be an option that would appeal to him.And even if you DIY, your still probably going to be spending at least 800 bucks for all of the things you need for an actually decent mid level gaming rig.I'm talking abou t a decent sized, 64GB or hopefully higher SSD boot drive that can transfer at least 450MB/S sequential R/RW, able to perform at least 60K IOPS R/RW, a main drive if needed of at least 1TB equipped with a 64MB cash and a spindle speed of 7200RPM, a motherboard with a decent amount of actual USB connections and not just dual headers, 2 PCE2.0 or 3.0 ports capable of dual X8 speeds or higher and maybe a PCI slot for legacy tech, 3 fan connections, hopefully PWM, at least 4 SATA III headers and a decent built in audio codec, like Realtek 892, Asus Crystal Sound, Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi, ETC, an I5 4th gen or FX 4300 CPU minimum, a decent aftermarket CPU cooler that pushes at least 45CFM at under 28DBA max, 500W 80+ bronze certified PSU or better, 8GB DDR3 or DDR4 memory with a frequency of 1600MHZ plus and a clock rate of at least 9, A GPU with at least 2GB GDDR5 VRAM with a base clock rate of 1020 plus that hopefully isn't incredibly old and some decent fans with PWM support, 120MM plus that can push or pull at least 35CFM at less than 28DBA max, a case that has some front panel USB 3.0 ports and audio in/out with at least 4 expansion slots, 1 external 5.25 bay, 1 2.5 Inch internal bay if possible, and 3 3.5 inch internal bays minimum, with a decent amount of space so probably ATX mid tower, and made of something that isn't 75 percent plastic and isn't full of unnecessary dust intake vents or a million fan mounts that no one will ever use. Pretty basic stuff for the modern age I'd think, but it all racks up pretty fast, so the myth about being able to build a decent gaming or workstation PC for a hoole lot less than just buying a laptop is pretty much crap. That isn't to say that desktops don't have advantages but the price thing is not one of them unless you are utterly hopeless at finding deals.Also, gaming laptops have gotten noticeably better in the past 2 years from what I've seen, especially when it comes to cooling and weight, and while they obviously aren't the same thing as a desktop just do to the lack of expansion and repair options down the road and the inherent performance gap of a mobile processor VS a desktop processor, they still hold their own these days, probably do to the new developments in technology stemming from the increased competition as companies like HP, Acer and Lenovo join the bandwagon with an on the go gaming offering of their own.It's no longer just Asus with there incredibly popular republic of gamers line, MSI with all of those awesomely named models that seem to come out every year, and Dell, which by the way bought Alienware a few years ago.You should really take a look at the comparisons on notebookcheck.net because they give real world performance benchmarks with various games using va rious mobile graphics cards. And if you want to cross reference that, then try GPU Boss, which is another great site.You'll see that most laptops now, at least those with 2GB GDDR5 VRAM or higher, can hit that 60FPS on 1920 by 1080 resolution sweet spot pretty easily on most games, E.G. those with actually reasonable system requirements, and therefore outperform both the PS4 and XBox which can only reach 30FPS at the same pixel density. Something which many console gamers seem to be just fine with even with the mixed blessing of a wider screen... URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=247253#p247253 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Question about two different processors
Re: Question about two different processors I'm going to have some laptop suggestions for you in my next post Simba, this is just a response to leibylucwgamer and CW.I was tempted to say the same thing about desktops, but if you really look into it like I have been over the last year or so, almost all prebuilt gaming boxes have at least 2 or 3 crappy parts that mess up the hole unit, a stock CPU cooler with accompanying thermal paste, a significantly underpowered PSU with absolutely no breathing room for new parts, cheap cooling fans, a case with bad air dynamics and not many internal expansion options, extremely limited configuration choices most of the time, ETC, so the best idea is to build your own, but based on the OP's level of experience, that doesn't seem to be an option that would appeal to him.And even if you DIY, your still probably going to be spending at least 800 bucks for all of the things you need for an actually decent mid level gaming rig.I'm talking abou t a decent sized, 64GB or hopefully higher SSD boot drive that can push at least 450MB/S sequential R/RW, able to perform at least 60K IOPS R/RW, a main drive if needed of at least 1TB equipped with a 64MB cash and a spindle speed of 7200RPM, a motherboard with a decent amount of actual USB connections and not just dual headers, 2 PCE2.0 or 3.0 ports capable of dual X8 speeds or higher and maybe a PCI slot for legacy tech, 3 fan connections, hopefully PWM, at least 4 SATA III headers and a decent built in audio codec, like Realtek 892, Asus Crystal Sound, Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi, ETC, an I5 4th gen or FX 4300 CPU minimum, a decent aftermarket CPU cooler that pushes at least 45CFM at under 28DBA max, 500W 80+ bronze certified PSU or better, 8GB DDR3 or DDR4 memory with a frequency of 1600MHZ plus and a clock rate of at least 9, A GPU with at least 2GB GDDR5 VRAM with a base clock rate of 1020 plus that hopefully isn't incredibly old and some decent fans with PWM support, 120MM plus that can push or pull at least 35CFM at less than 28DBA max, a case that has some front panel USB 3.0 ports and audio in/out with at least 4 expansion slots, 1 external 5.25 bay, 1 2.5 Inch internal bay if possible, and 3 3.5 inch internal bays minimum, with a decent amount of space so probably ATX mid tower, and made of something that isn't 75 percent plastic and isn't full of unnecessary dust intake vents or a million fan mounts that no one will ever use. Pretty basic stuff for the modern age I'd think, but it all racks up pretty fast, so the myth about being able to build a decent gaming or workstation PC for a hoole lot less than just buying a laptop is pretty much crap. That isn't to say that desktops don't have advantages but the price thing is not one of them unless you are utterly hopeless at finding deal s.Also, gaming laptops have gotten noticeably better in the past 2 years from what I've seen, especially when it comes to cooling and weight, and while they obviously aren't the same thing as a desktop just do to the lack of expansion and repair options down the road and the inherent performance gap of a mobile processor VS a desktop processor, they still hold their own these days, probably do to the new developments in technology stemming from the increased competition as companies like HP, Acer and Lenovo join the bandwagon with an on the go gaming offering of their own.It's no longer just Asus with there incredibly popular republic of gamers line, MSI with all of those awesomely named models that seem to come out every year, and Dell, which by the way bought Alienware a few years ago.You should really take a look at the comparisons on notebookcheck.net because they give real world performance benchmarks with various games using variou s mobile graphics cards. And if you want to cross reference that, then try GPU Boss, which is another great site.You'll see that most laptops now, at least those with 2GB GDDR5 VRAM or higher, can hit that 60FPS on 1920 by 1080 resolution sweet spot pretty easily on most games, E.G. those with actually reasonable system requirements, and therefore outperform both the PS4 and XBox which can only reach 30FPS at the same pixel density. Something which many console gamers seem to be just fine with even with the mixed blessing of a wider screen... URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=247253#p247253 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Question about two different processors
Re: Question about two different processors I'm going to have some laptop suggestions for you in my next post Simba, this is just a response to leibylucwgamer and CW.I was tempted to say the same thing about desktops, but if you really look into it like I have been over the last year or so, almost all prebuilt gaming boxes have at least 2 or 3 crappy parts that mess up the hole unit, a stock CPU cooler with accompanying thermal paste, a significantly underpowered PSU with absolutely no breathing room for new parts, cheap cooling fans, a case with bad air dynamics and not many internal expansion options, extremely limited configuration choices most of the time, ETC, so the best idea is to build your own, but based on the OP's level of experience, that doesn't seem to be an option that would appeal to him.And even if you DIY, your still probably going to be spending at least 800 bucks for all of the things you need for an actually decent mid level gaming rig.I'm talking abou t a decent sized, 64GB or hopefully higher SSD boot drive that can push at least 400MB/S sequential R/RW, able to perform at least 40K IOPS R/RW, a main drive if needed of at least 1TB equipped with a 64MB cash and a spindle speed of 7200RPM, a motherboard with a decent amount of actual USB connections and not just dual headers, 2 PCE2.0 or 3.0 ports capable of dual X8 speeds or higher and maybe a PCI slot for legacy tech, 3 fan connections, hopefully PWM, at least 4 SATA III headers and a decent built in audio codec, like Realtek 892, Asus Crystal Sound, Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi, ETC, an I5 4th gen or FX 4300 CPU minimum, a decent aftermarket CPU cooler that pushes at least 45CFM at under 28DBA max, 500W 80+ bronze certified PSU or better, 8GB DDR3 or DDR4 memory with a frequency of 1600MHZ plus and a clock rate of at least 9, A GPU with at least 2GB GDDR5 VRAM with a base clock rate of 1020 plus that hopefully isn't incredibly old and some decent fans with PWM support, 120MM plus that can push or pull at least 35CFM at less than 28DBA max, a case that has some front panel USB 3.0 ports and audio in/out with at least 4 expansion slots, 1 external 5.25 bay, 1 2.5 Inch internal bay if possible, and 3 3.5 inch internal bays minimum, with a decent amount of space so probably ATX mid tower, and made of something that isn't 75 percent plastic and isn't full of unnecessary dust intake vents or a million fan mounts that no one will ever use. Pretty basic stuff for the modern age I'd think, but it all racks up pretty fast, so the myth about being able to build a decent gaming or workstation PC for a hoole lot less than just buying a laptop is pretty much crap. That isn't to say that desktops don't have advantages but the price thing is not one of them unless you are utterly hopeless at finding deal s.Also, gaming laptops have gotten noticeably better in the past 2 years from what I've seen, especially when it comes to cooling and weight, and while they obviously aren't the same thing as a desktop just do to the lack of expansion and repair options down the road and the inherent performance gap of a mobile processor VS a desktop processor, they still hold their own these days, probably do to the new developments in technology stemming from the increased competition as companies like HP, Acer and Lenovo join the bandwagon with an on the go gaming offering of their own.It's no longer just Asus with there incredibly popular republic of gamers line, MSI with all of those awesomely named models that seem to come out every year, and Dell, which by the way bought Alienware a few years ago.You should really take a look at the comparisons on notebookcheck.net because they give real world performance benchmarks with various games using variou s mobile graphics cards. And if you want to cross reference that, then try GPU Boss, which is another great site.You'll see that most laptops now, at least those with 2GB GDDR5 VRAM or higher, can hit that 60FPS on 1920 by 1080 resolution sweet spot pretty easily on most games, E.G. those with actually reasonable system requirements, and therefore outperform both the PS4 and XBox which can only reach 30FPS at the same pixel density. Something which many console gamers seem to be just fine with even with the mixed blessing of a wider screen... URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=247253#p247253 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Question about two different processors
Re: Question about two different processors I'm going to have some laptop suggestions for you in my next post Simba, this is just a response to leibylucwgamer and CW.I was tempted to say the same thing about desktops, but if you really look into it like I have been over the last year or so, almost all prebuilt gaming boxes have at least 2 or 3 crappy parts that mess up the hole unit, weather it be a stock CPU cooler with accompanying thermal paste, a significantly underpowered PSU with absolutely no breathing room for new parts, cheap cooling fans, a case with bad air dynamics and not many internal expansion options, extremely limited configuration choices most of the time, ETC, so the best idea is to build your own, but based on the OP's level of experience, that doesn't seem to be an option that would appeal to him.And even if you DIY, your still probably going to be spending at least 800 bucks for all of the things you need for an actually decent mid level gaming rig.I' m talking about a decent sized, 64GB or hopefully higher SSD boot drive that can push at least 400MB/S sequential R/RW, able to perform at least 40K IOPS R/RW, a main drive if needed of at least 1TB equipped with a 64MB cash and a spindle speed of 7200RPM, a motherboard with a decent amount of actual USB connections and not just dual headers, 2 PCE2.0 or 3.0 ports capable of dual X8 speeds or higher and maybe a PCI slot for legacy tech, 3 fan connections, hopefully PWM, at least 4 SATA III headers and a decent built in audio codec, like Realtek 892, Asus Crystal Sound, Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi, ETC, an I5 4th gen or FX 4300 CPU minimum, a decent aftermarket CPU cooler that pushes at least 45CFM at under 28DBA max, 500W 80+ bronze certified PSU or better, 8GB DDR3 or DDR4 memory with a frequency of 1600MHZ plus and a clock rate of at least 9, A GPU with at least 2GB GDDR5 VRAM with a base clock rate of 1020 plus that hopefully isn't incredibly old and some decent fans with PWM support, 120MM plus that can push or pull at least 35CFM at less than 28DBA max, a case that has some front panel USB 3.0 ports and audio in/out with at least 4 expansion slots, 1 external 5.25 bay, 1 2.5 Inch internal bay if possible, and 3 3.5 inch internal bays minimum, with a decent amount of space so probably ATX mid tower, and made of something that isn't 75 percent plastic and isn't full of unnecessary dust intake vents or a million fan mounts that no one will ever use. Pretty basic stuff for the modern age I'd think, but it all racks up pretty fast, so the myth about being able to build a decent gaming or workstation PC for a hoole lot less than just buying a laptop is pretty much crap. That isn't to say that desktops don't have advantages but the price thing is not one of them unless you are utterly hopeless a t finding deals.Also, gaming laptops have gotten noticeably better in the past 2 years from what I've seen, especially when it comes to cooling and weight, and while they obviously aren't the same thing as a desktop just do to the lack of expansion and repair options down the road and the inherent performance gap of a mobile processor VS a desktop processor, they still hold their own these days, probably do to the new developments in technology stemming from the increased competition as companies like HP, Acer and Lenovo join the bandwagon with an on the go gaming offering of their own.It's no longer just Asus with there incredibly popular republic of gamers line, MSI with all of those awesomely named models that seem to come out every year, and Dell, which by the way bought Alienware a few years ago.You should really take a look at the comparisons on notebookcheck.net because they give real world performance benchmarks with various game s using various mobile graphics cards. And if you want to cross reference that, then try GPU Boss, which is another great site.You'll see that most laptops now, at least those with 2GB GDDR5 VRAM or higher, can hit that 60FPS on 1920 by 1080 resolution sweet spot pretty easily on most games, E.G. those with actually reasonable system requirements, and therefore outperform both the PS4 and XBox which can only reach 30FPS at the same pixel density. Something which many console gamers seem to be just fine with even with the mixed blessing of a wider screen... URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=247253#p247253 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Question about two different processors
Re: Question about two different processors I'm going to have some laptop suggestions for you in my next post Simba, this is just a response to leibylucwgamer and CW.I was tempted to say the same thing about desktops, but if you really look into it, almost all prebuilt gaming boxes have at least 2 or 3 crappy parts that mess up the hole unit, weather it be a stock CPU cooler with accompanying thermal paste, a significantly underpowered PSU with absolutely no breathing room for new parts, cheap cooling fans, a case with bad air dynamics and not many internal expansion options, extremely limited configuration choices most of the time, ETC, so the best idea is to build your own, but based on the OP's level of experience, that doesn't seem to be an option that would appeal to him.And even if you DIY, your still probably going to be spending at least 800 bucks for all of the things you need for an actually decent mid level gaming rig.I'm talking about a decent sized, 64GB or ho pefully higher SSD boot drive that can push at least 400MB/S sequential R/RW, able to perform at least 40K IOPS R/RW, a main drive if needed of at least 1TB equipped with a 64MB cash and a spindle speed of 7200RPM, a motherboard with a decent amount of actual USB connections and not just dual headers, 2 PCE2.0 or 3.0 ports capable of dual X8 speeds or higher and maybe a PCI slot for legacy tech, 3 fan connections, hopefully PWM, at least 4 SATA III headers and a decent built in audio codec, like Realtek 892, Asus Crystal Sound, Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi, ETC, an I5 4th gen or FX 4300 CPU minimum, a decent aftermarket CPU cooler that pushes at least 45CFM at under 28DBA max, 500W 80+ bronze certified PSU or better, 8GB DDR3 or DDR4 memory with a frequency of 1600MHZ plus and a clock rate of at least 9, A GPU with at least 2GB GDDR5 VRAM with a base clock rate of 1020 plus that hopefully isn't incredibly old and some decent fans with PWM support, 120MM plus that can push or pull at least 35CFM at less than 28DBA max, a case that has some front panel USB 3.0 ports and audio in/out with at least 4 expansion slots, 1 external 5.25 bay, 1 2.5 Inch internal bay if possible, and 3 3.5 inch internal bays minimum, with a decent amount of space so probably ATX mid tower, and made of something that isn't 75 percent plastic and isn't full of unnecessary dust intake vents or a million fan mounts that no one will ever use. Pretty basic stuff for the modern age I'd think, but it all racks up pretty fast, so the myth about being able to build a decent gaming or workstation PC for a hoole lot less than just buying a laptop is pretty much crap. That isn't to say that desktops don't have advantages but the price thing is not one of them unless you are utterly hopeless at finding deals.Also, gaming laptops have gotten noticeably better in the past 2 years from what I've seen, especially when it comes to cooling and weight, and while they obviously aren't the same thing as a desktop just do to the lack of expansion and repair options down the road and the inherent performance gap of a mobile processor VS a desktop processor, they still hold their own these days, probably do to the new developments in technology stemming from the increased competition as companies like HP, Acer and Lenovo join the bandwagon with an on the go gaming offering of their own.It's no longer just Asus with there incredibly popular republic of gamers line, MSI with all of those awesomely named models that seem to come out every year, and Dell, which by the way bought Alienware a few years ago.You should really take a look at the comparisons on notebookcheck.net because they give real world performance benchmarks with various games using various mobile graphics cards. And if you want to cross reference that, then try GPU Boss, which is another great site.You'll see that most laptops now, at least those with 2GB GDDR5 VRAM or higher, can hit that 60FPS on 1920 by 1080 resolution sweet spot pretty easily on most games, E.G. those with actually reasonable system requirements, and therefore outperform both the PS4 and XBox which can only reach 30FPS at the same pixel density. Something which many console gamers seem to be just fine with even with the mixed blessing of a wider screen... URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=247253#p247253 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Question about two different processors
Re: Question about two different processors I'm going to have some laptop suggestions for you in my next post Simba, this is just a response to leibylucwgamer and CW.I was tempted to say the same thing about desktops, but if you really look into it, almost all prebuilt gaming boxes have at least 2 or 3 crappy parts that mess up the hole unit, weather it be a stock CPU cooler with accompanying thermal paste, a significantly underpowered PSU with absolutely no breathing room for new parts, cheap cooling fans, a case with bad air dynamics and not many internal expansion options, extremely limited configuration choices most of the time, ETC, so the best idea is to build your own, but based on the OP's level of experience, that doesn't seem to be an option that would appeal to him.And even if you DIY, your still probably going to be spending at least 800 bucks for all of the things you need for an actually decent mid level gaming rig.I'm talking about a decent sized, 64GB or ho pefully higher SSD boot drive that can push at least 400MB/S sequential R/RW, able to perform at least 40K IOPS R/RW, a main drive if needed of at least 1TB equipped with a 64MB cash and a spindle speed of 7200RPM, a motherboard with a decent amount of actual USB connections and not just dual headers, 2 PCE2.0 or 3.0 ports capable of dual X8 speeds or higher and maybe a PCI slot for legacy tech, 3 fan connections, hopefully PWM, at least 4 SATA III headers and a decent built in audio codec, like Realtek 892, Asus Crystal Sound, Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi, ETC, an I5 4th gen or FX 4300 CPU minimum, a decent aftermarket CPU cooler that pushes at least 45CFM at under 28DBA max, 500W 80+ bronze certified PSU or better, 8GB DDR3 or DDR4 memory with a frequency of 1600MHZ plus and a clock rate of at least 9, A GPU with at least 2GB GDDR5 VRAM with a base clock rate of 1020 plus that hopefully isn't incredibly old and some decent fans with PWM support, 120MM plus that can push or pull at least 35CFM at less than 28DBA max, a case that has some front panel USB 3.0 ports and audio in/out with at least 4 expansion slots, 1 external 5.25 bay, 1 2.5 Inch internal bay if possible, and 3 3.5 inch internal bays minimum, with a decent amount of space so probably ATX mid tower, and made of something that isn't 75 percent plastic and isn't full of unnecessary dust intake vents or a million fan mounts that no one will ever use. Pretty basic stuff for the modern age I'd think, but it all racks up pretty fast, so the myth about being able to build a decent gaming or workstation PC for a hoole lot less than just buying a laptop is pretty much crap. That isn't to say that desktops don't have advantages but the price thing is not one of them unless you are utterly hopeless at finding deals.Also, gaming laptops have gotten noticeably better in the past 2 years from what I've seen, especially when it comes to cooling and weight, and while they obviously aren't the same thing as a desktop just do to the lack of expansion and repair options down the road and the inherent performance gap of a mobile processor VS a desktop processor, they still hold their own these days, probably do to the new developments in technology stemming from the increased competition as companies like HP and Lenovo join the bandwagon with an on the go gaming offering of their own.You should really take a look at the comparisons on notebookcheck.net because they give real world performance benchmarks with various games using various mobile graphics cards. And if you want to cross reference that, then try GPU Boss, which is another great site.You'll see that most laptops now, at least those with 2GB GDDR5 VRAM or higher, can hit that 60FPS on 1920 by 1080 resolution sweet sp ot pretty easily on most games, E.G. those with actually reasonable system requirements, and therefore outperform both the PS4 and XBox which can only reach 30FPS at the same pixel density. Something which many console gamers seem to be just fine with even with the mixed blessing of a wider screen... URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=247253#p247253 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Question about two different processors
Re: Question about two different processors I'm going to have some laptop suggestions for you in my next post Simba, this is just a response to leibylucwgamer and CW.I was tempted to say the same thing about desktops, but if you really look into it, almost all prebuilt gaming boxes have at least 2 or 3 crappy parts that mess up the hole unit, weather it be a stock CPU cooler with accompanying thermal paste, a significantly underpowered PSU with absolutely no breathing room for new parts, cheap cooling fans, a case with bad air dynamics and not many internal expansion options, extremely limited configuration choices most of the time, ETC, so the best idea is to build your own, but based on the OP's level of experience, that doesn't seem to be an option that would appeal to him.And even if you DIY, your still probably going to be spending at least 800 bucks for all of the things you need for an actually decent mid level gaming rig.I'm talking about a decent sized, 64GB or ho pefully higher SSD boot drive that can push at least 400MB/S sequential R/RW, able to perform at least 40K IOPS R/RW, a main drive if needed of at least 1TB equipped with a 64MB cash and a spindle speed of 7200RPM, a motherboard with a decent amount of actual USB connections and not just dual headers, 2 PCE2.0 or 3.0 ports capable of dual X8 speeds or higher and maybe a PCI slot for legacy tech, 3 fan connections, hopefully PWM, at least 4 SATA III headers and a decent built in audio codec, like Realtek 892, Asus Crystal Sound, Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi, ETC, an I5 4th gen or FX 4300 CPU minimum, a decent aftermarket CPU cooler that pushes at least 45CFM at under 28DBA max, 500W 80+ bronze certified PSU or better, 8GB DDR3 or DDR4 memory with a frequency of 1600MHZ plus and a clock rate of at least 9, A GPU with at least 2GB GDDR5 VRAM with a base clock rate of 1020 plus that hopefully isn't incredibly old and some decent fans with PWM support, 120MM plus that can push or pull at least 35CFM at less than 28DBA max, a case that has some front panel USB 3.0 ports and audio in/out with at least 4 expansion slots, 1 external 5.25 bay, 1 2.5 Inch internal bay if possible, and 3 3.5 inch internal bays minimum, with a decent amount of space so probably ATX mid tower, and made of something that isn't 75 percent plastic and isn't full of unnecessary dust intake vents or a million fan mounts that no one will ever use. Pretty basic stuff for the modern age I'd think, but it all racks up pretty fast, so the myth about being able to build a decent gaming or workstation PC for a hoole lot less than just buying a laptop is pretty much crap. That isn't to say that desktops don't have advantages but the price thing is not one of them unless you are utterly hopeless at finding deals.Also, gaming laptops have gotten noticeably better in the past 2 years from what I've seen, especially when it comes to cooling and weight, and while they obviously aren't the same thing as a desktop just do to the lack of expansion and repair options down the road and the inherent performance gap of a mobile processor VS a desktop processor, they still hold their own these days, probably because of the increased competition as companies like HP and Lenovo join the bandwagon with an on the go gaming offering of their own.You should really take a look at the comparisons on notebookcheck.net because they give real world performance benchmarks with various games using various mobile graphics cards. And if you want to cross reference that, then try GPU Boss, which is another great site.You'll see that most laptops now, at least those with 2GB GDDR5 VRAM or higher, can hit that 60FPS on 1920 by 1080 resolution sweet spot pretty easily on most games, E.G. those with actually reasonable system requirements, and therefore outperform both the PS4 and XBox which can only reach 30FPS at the same pixel density. Something which many console gamers seem to be just fine with even with the mixed blessing of a wider screen... URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=247253#p247253 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Question about two different processors
Re: Question about two different processors I'm going to have some laptop suggestions for you in my next post Simba, this is just a response to leibylucwgamer and CW.I was tempted to say the same thing about desktops, but if you really look into it, almost all prebuilt gaming boxes have at least 2 or 3 crappy parts that mess up the hole unit, weather it be a stock CPU cooler with accompanying thermal paste, a significantly underpowered PSU with absolutely no breathing room for new parts, cheap cooling fans, a case with bad air dynamics and not many internal expansion options, extremely limited configuration choices most of the time, ETC, so the best idea is to build your own, but based on the OP's level of experience, that doesn't seem to be an option that would appeal to him.And even if you DIY, your still probably going to be spending at least 800 bucks for all of the things you need for an actually decent mid level gaming rig.I'm talking about a decent sized, 64GB or ho pefully higher SSD boot drive that can push at least 400MB/S sequential R/RW, able to perform at least 40K IOPS R/RW, a main drive if needed of at least 1TB equipped with a 64MB cash and a spindle speed of 7200RPM, a motherboard with a decent amount of actual USB connections and not just dual headers, 2 PCE2.0 or 3.0 ports capable of dual X8 speeds or higher and maybe a PCI slot for legacy tech, 3 fan connections, hopefully PWM, at least 4 SATA III headers and a decent built in audio codec, like Realtek 892, Asus Crystal Sound, Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi, ETC, an I5 4th gen or FX 4300 CPU minimum, a decent aftermarket CPU cooler that pushes at least 45CFM at under 28DBA max, 500W 80+ bronze certified PSU or higher, 8GB DDR3 or DDR4 memory with a frequency of 1600MHZ plus and a clock rate of at least 9, A GPU with at least 2GB GDDR5 VRAM with a base clock rate of 1020 plus that hopefully isn't incredibly old and some decent fans with PWM support, 120MM plus that can push or pull at least 35CFM at less than 28DBA max, a case that has some front panel USB 3.0 ports and audio in/out with at least 4 expansion slots, 1 external 5.25 bay, 1 2.5 Inch internal bay if possible, and 3 3.5 inch internal bays minimum, with a decent amount of space so probably ATX mid tower, and made of something that isn't 75 percent plastic and isn't full of unnecessary dust intake vents or a million fan mounts that no one will ever use. Pretty basic stuff for the modern age I'd think, but it all racks up pretty fast, so the myth about being able to build a decent gaming or workstation PC for a hoole lot less than just buying a laptop is pretty much crap. That isn't to say that desktops don't have advantages but the price thing is not one of them unless you are utterly hopeless at finding deals.Also, gaming laptops have gotten noticeably better in the past 2 years from what I've seen, especially when it comes to cooling and weight, and while they obviously aren't the same thing as a desktop just do to the lack of expansion and repair options down the road and the inherent performance gap of a mobile processor VS a desktop processor, they still hold their own these days, probably because of the increased competition as companies like HP and Lenovo join the bandwagon with an on the go gaming offering of their own.You should really take a look at the comparisons on notebookcheck.net because they give real world performance benchmarks with various games using various mobile graphics cards. And if you want to cross reference that, then try GPU Boss, which is another great site.You'll see that most laptops now, at least those with 2GB GDDR5 VRAM or higher, can hit that 60FPS on 1920 by 1080 resolution sweet spot pretty easily on most games, E.G. those with actually reasonable system requirements, and therefore outperform both the PS4 and XBox which can only reach 30FPS at the same pixel density. Something which many console gamers seem to be just fine with even with the mixed blessing of a wider screen... URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=247253#p247253 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Question about two different processors
Re: Question about two different processors I'm going to have some laptop suggestions for you in my next post Simba, this is just a response to leibylucwgamer and CW.I was tempted to say the same thing about desktops, but if you really look into it, almost all prebuilt gaming boxes have at least 2 or 3 crappy parts that mess up the hole unit, weather it be a stock CPU cooler with accompanying thermal paste, a significantly underpowered PSU with absolutely no breathing room for new parts, cheap cooling fans, a case with bad air dynamics and not many internal expansion options, extremely limited configuration choices most of the time, ETC, so the best idea is to build your own, but based on the OP's level of experience, that doesn't seem to be an option that would appeal to him.And even if you DIY, your still probably going to be spending at least 800 bucks for all of the things you need for an actually decent mid level gaming rig.I'm talking about a decent sized, 128GB or h igher SSD boot drive that can push at least 400MB/S sequential R/RW, able to perform at least 40K IOPS R/RW, a main drive if needed of at least 1TB equipped with a 64MB cash and a spindle speed of 7200RPM, a motherboard with a decent amount of actual USB connections and not just dual headers, 2 PCE2.0 or 3.0 ports capable of dual X8 speeds or higher and maybe a PCI slot for legacy tech, 3 fan connections, hopefully PWM, at least 4 SATA III headers and a decent built in audio codec, like Realtek 892, Asus Crystal Sound, Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi, ETC, an I5 4th gen or FX 4300 CPU minimum, a decent aftermarket CPU cooler that pushes at least 45CFM at under 28DBA max, 500W 80+ bronze certified PSU or higher, 8GB DDR3 or DDR4 memory with a frequency of 1600MHZ plus and a clock rate of at least 9, A GPU with at least 2GB GDDR5 VRAM with a base clock rate of 1020 plus that hopefully isn't incredibly old and some decent fans with PWM support, 120MM plus that can push or pull at least 35CFM at less than 28DBA max, a case that has some front panel USB 3.0 ports and audio in/out with at least 4 expansion slots, 1 external 5.25 bay, 1 2.5 Inch internal bay if possible, and 3 3.5 inch internal bays minimum, with a decent amount of space so probably ATX mid tower, and made of something that isn't 75 percent plastic and isn't full of unnecessary dust intake vents or a million fan mounts that no one will ever use. Pretty basic stuff for the modern age I'd think, but it all racks up pretty fast, so the myth about being able to build a decent gaming or workstation PC for a hoole lot less than just buying a laptop is pretty much crap. That isn't to say that desktops don't have advantages but the price thing is not one of them unless you are utterly hopeless at finding deals.Also, gaming laptops h ave gotten noticeably better in the past 2 years from what I've seen, especially when it comes to cooling and weight, and while they obviously aren't the same thing as a desktop just do to the lack of expansion and repair options down the road and the inherent performance gap of a mobile processor VS a desktop processor, they still hold their own these days, probably because of the increased competition as companies like HP and Lenovo join the bandwagon with an on the go gaming offering of their own.You should really take a look at the comparisons on notebookcheck.net because they give real world performance benchmarks with various games using various mobile graphics cards. And if you want to cross reference that, then try GPU Boss, which is another great site.You'll see that most laptops now, at least those with 2GB GDDR5 VRAM or higher, can hit that 60FPS on 1920 by 1080 resolution sweet spot pretty easily on most games, E.G. those with actu ally reasonable system requirements, and therefore outperform both the PS4 and XBox which can only reach 30FPS at the same pixel density. Something which many console gamers seem to be just fine with even with the mixed blessing of a wider screen... URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=247253#p247253 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Question about two different processors
Re: Question about two different processors I'm going to have some laptop suggestions for you in my next post Simba, this is just a response to leibylucwgamer and CW.I was tempted to say the same thing about desktops, but if you really look into it, almost all prebuilt gaming boxes have at least 2 or 3 crappy parts that mess up the hole unit, weather it be a stock CPU cooler with accompanying thermal paste, a significantly underpowered PSU with absolutely no breathing room for new parts, cheap cooling fans, a case with bad air dynamics and not many internal expansion options, extremely limited configuration choices most of the time, ETC, so the best idea is to build your own, but based on the OP's level of experience, that doesn't seem to be an option that would appeal to him.And even if you DIY, your still probably going to be spending at least 800 bucks for all of the things you need for an actually decent mid level gaming rig.I'm talking about a decent sized, 128GB or h igher SSD boot drive that can push at least 400MB/S sequential R/RW, able to perform at least 40K IOPS R/RW, a main drive if needed of at least 1TB equipped with a 64MB cash and a spindle speed of 7200RPM, a motherboard with a decent amount of actual USB connections and not just dual headers, 2 PCE2.0 or 3.0 ports capable of dual X8 speeds or higher and maybe a PCI slot for legacy tech, 3 fan connections, hopefully PWM, at least 4 SATA III headers and a decent built in audio codec, like Realtek 892, Asus Crystal Sound, Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi, ETC, an I5 4th gen or FX 4300 CPU minimum, a decent aftermarket CPU cooler that pushes at least 45CFM at under 28DBA max, 500W 80+ bronze certified PSU or higher, 8GB DDR3 or DDR4 memory with a frequency of 1600MHZ plus and a clock rate of at least 9, A GPU with at least 2GB GDDR5 VRAM with a base clock rate of 1020 plus that hopefully isn't incredibly old and some decent fans with PWM support, 120MM plus that can push or pull at least 35CFM at less than 28DBA max, a case that has some front panel USB 3.0 ports and audio in/out with at least 4 expansion slots, 1 external 5.25 bay, 1 2.5 Inch internal bay if possible, and 3 3.5 inch internal bays minimum, with a decent amount of space so probably ATX mid tower, and made of something that isn't 75 percent plastic and isn't full of unnecessary dust intake vents or a million fan mounts that no one will ever use. Pretty basic stuff for the modern age I'd think, but it all racks up pretty fast, so the myth about being able to build a decent gaming or workstation PC for a hoole lot less than just buying a laptop is pretty much crap. That isn't to say that desktops don't have advantages but the price thing is not one of them unless you are utterly hopeless at finding deals.Also, gaming laptops h ave gotten noticeably better in the past 2 years from what I've seen, especially when it comes to cooling and weight, and while they obviously aren't the same thing as a desktop just do to the lack of expansion and repair options down the road and the inherent performance gap of a mobile processor VS a desktop processor, they still hold their own these days, probably because of the increased competition as companies like HP and Lenovo join the bandwagon with an on the go gaming offering of their own.You should really take a look at the comparisons on notebookcheck.net because they give real world performance benchmarks with various games using various mobile graphics cards. And if you want to cross reference that, then try GPU Boss, which is another great site.You'll see that most laptops now, at least those with 2GB GDDR5 VRAM or higher, can hit that 60FPS on 1920 by 1080 resolution sweet spot pretty easily on most games, E.G. those with actu ally reasonable system requirements, and therefore outperform both the PS4 and XBox which can only reach 30FPS at the same pixel density. Something which many console gamers seem to be just fine with... URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=247253#p247253 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Question about two different processors
Re: Question about two different processors I'm going to have some laptop suggestions for you in my next post Simba, this is just a response to leibylucwgamer and CW.I was tempted to say the same thing about desktops, but if you really look into it, almost all prebuilt gaming boxes have at least 2 or 3 crappy parts that mess up the hole unit, weather it be a stock CPU cooler with accompanying thermal paste, a significantly underpowered PSU with absolutely no breathing room for new parts, cheap cooling fans, a case with bad air dynamics and not many internal expansion options, extremely limited configuration choices most of the time, ETC, so the best idea is to build your own, but based on the OP's level of experience, that doesn't seem to be an option that would appeal to him.And even if you DIY, your still probably going to be spending at least 800 bucks for all of the things you need for an actually decent mid level gaming rig.I'm talking about a decent sized, 128GB or h igher SSD boot drive that can push at least 400MB/S sequential R/RW, able to perform at least 40K IOPS R/RW, a main drive if needed of at least 1TB equipped with a 64MB cash and a spindle speed of 7200RPM, a motherboard with a decent amount of actual USB connections and not just dual headers, 2 PCE2.0 or 3.0 ports capable of dual X8 speeds or higher and maybe a PCI slot for legacy tech, 3 fan connections, hopefully PWM, at least 4 SATA III headers and a decent built in audio codec, like Realtek 892, Asus Crystal Sound, Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi, ETC, an I5 4th gen or FX 4300 CPU minimum, a decent aftermarket CPU cooler that pushes at least 45CFM at under 28DBA max, 500W 80+ bronze certified PSU or higher, 8GB DDR3 or DDR4 memory with a frequency of 1600MHZ plus and a clock rate of at least 9, A GPU with at least 2GB GDDR5 VRAM with a base clock rate of 1020 plus that hopefully isn't incredibly old and some decent fans with PWM support, 120MM plus that can push or pull at least 35CFM at less than 28DBA max, a case that has some front panel USB 3.0 ports and audio in/out with at least 4 expansion slots, 1 external 5.25 bay, 1 2.5 Inch internal bay if possible, and 3 3.5 inch internal bays minimum, with a decent amount of space so probably ATX mid tower, and made of something that isn't 75 percent plastic and isn't full of unnecessary dust intake vents or a million fan mounts that no one will ever use. Pretty basic stuff for the modern age I'd think, but it all racks up pretty fast, so the myth about being able to build a decent gaming or workstation PC for a hoole lot less than just buying a laptop is pretty much crap. That isn't to say that desktops don't have advantages but the price thing is not one of them unless you are utterly hopeless at finding deals.Also, gaming laptops h ave gotten noticeably better in the past 2 years from what I've seen, especially when it comes to cooling and weight, and while they obviously aren't the same thing as a desktop just do to the lack of expansion and repair options down the road and the inherent performance gap of a mobile processor VS a desktop processor, they still hold their own these days, probably because of the increased competition as companies like MSI and Lenovo join the bandwagon with an on the go gaming offering of their own.You should really take a look at the comparisons on notebookcheck.net because they give real world performance benchmarks with various games using various mobile graphics cards. And if you want to cross reference that, then try GPU Boss, which is another great site.You'll see that most laptops now, at least those with 2GB GDDR5 VRAM or higher, can hit that 60FPS on 1920 by 1080 resolution sweet spot pretty easily on most games, E.G. those with act ually reasonable system requirements, and therefore outperform both the PS4 and XBox which can only reach 30FPS at the same pixel density. Something which many console gamers seem to be just fine with... URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=247253#p247253 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Question about two different processors
Re: Question about two different processors I'm going to have some laptop suggestions for you in my next post Simba, this is just a response to leibylucwgamer and CW.I was tempted to say the same thing about desktops, but if you really look into it, almost all prebuilt gaming boxes have at least 2 or 3 crappy parts that mess up the hole unit, weather it be a stock CPU cooler with accompanying thermal paste, a significantly underpowered PSU with absolutely no breathing room for new parts, cheap cooling fans, a case with bad air dynamics and not many internal expansion options, extremely limited configuration choices most of the time, ETC, so the best idea is to build your own, but based on the OP's level of experience, that doesn't seem to be an option that would appeal to him.And even if you DIY, your still probably going to be spending at least 800 bucks for all of the things you need for an actually decent mid level gaming rig.I'm talking about a decent sized, 128GB or h igher SSD boot drive that can push at least 400MB/S sequential R/RW, able to perform at least 40K IOPS R/RW, a main drive if needed of at least 1TB equipped with a 64MB cash and a spindle speed of 7200RPM, a motherboard with a decent amount of actual USB connections and not just dual headers, 2 PCE2.0 or 3.0 ports capable of dual X8 speeds or higher and maybe a PCI slot for legacy tech, 3 fan connections, hopefully PWM, at least 4 SATA III headers and a decent built in audio codec, like Realtek 892, Asus Crystal Sound, Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi, ETC, an I5 4th gen or FX 4300 CPU minimum, a decent aftermarket CPU cooler that pushes at least 45CFM at under 28DBA max, 500W 80+ bronze certified PSU or higher, 8GB DDR3 or DDR4 memory with a frequency of 1600MHZ plus and a clock rate of at least 9, A GPU with at least 2GB GDDR5 VRAM with a base clock rate of 1020 plus that hopefully isn't incredibly old and some decent fans with PWM support, 120MM plus that can push or pull at least 35CFM at less than 28DBA max, a case that has some front panel USB 3.0 ports and audio in/out with at least 4 expansion slots, 1 external 5.25 bay, 1 2.5 Inch internal bay if possible, and 3 3.5 inch internal bays minimum, with a decent amount of space so probably ATX mid tower, and made of something that isn't 75 percent plastic and isn't full of unnecessary dust intake vents or a million fan mounts that no one will ever use. Pretty basic stuff for the modern age I'd think, but it all racks up pretty fast, so the myth about being able to build a decent gaming or workstation PC for a hoole lot less than just buying a laptop is pretty much crap. That isn't to say that desktops don't have advantages but the price thing is not one of them unless you are utterly hopeless at finding deals.Also, gaming laptops h ave gotten noticeably better in the past 2 years from what I've seen, especially when it comes to cooling and weight, and while they obviously aren't the same thing as a desktop just do to the lack of expansion and repair options down the road and the inherent performance gap of a mobile processor VS a desktop processor, they still hold their own these days, probably because of the increased competition as new companies like MSI and Lenovo join the bandwagon with an on the go gaming offering of their own.You should really take a look at the comparisons on notebookcheck.net because they give real world performance benchmarks with various games using various mobile graphics cards. And if you want to cross reference that, then try GPU Boss, which is another great site.You'll see that most laptops now, at least those with 2GB GDDR5 VRAM or higher, can hit that 60FPS on 1920 by 1080 resolution sweet spot pretty easily on most games, E.G. those with actually reasonable system requirements, and therefore outperform both the PS4 and XBox which can only reach 30FPS at the same pixel density. Something which many console gamers seem to be just fine with... URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=247253#p247253 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Question about two different processors
Re: Question about two different processors I'm going to have some laptop suggestions for you in my next post Simba, this is just a response to leibylucwgamer and CW.I was tempted to say the same thing about desktops, but if you really look into it, almost all prebuilt gaming boxes have at least 2 or 3 crappy parts that mess up the hole unit, weather it be a stock CPU cooler with accompanying thermal paste, a significantly underpowered PSU with absolutely no breathing room for new parts, cheap cooling fans, a case with bad air dynamics and not many internal expansion options, extremely limited configuration choices most of the time, ETC, so the best idea is to build your own, but based on the OP's level of experience, that doesn't seem to be an option that would appeal to him.And even if you DIY, your still probably going to be spending at least 800 bucks for all of the things you need for an actually decent mid level gaming rig.I'm talking about a decent sized, 128GB or h igher SSD boot drive that can push at least 400MB/S sequential R/RW, able to perform at least 40K IOPS R/RW, a main drive if needed of at least 1TB equipped with a 64MB cash and a spindle speed of 7200RPM, a motherboard with a decent amount of actual connections and not just dual headers, at least 3 fan connections, hopefully PWM, at least 4 SATA III headers and a decent built in audio codec, like Realtek 892, Asus Crystal Sound, Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi, ETC, an I5 4th gen or FX 4300 CPU minimum, a decent aftermarket CPU cooler that pushes at least 45CFM at under 28DBA max, 500W 80+ bronze certified PSU or higher, 8GB DDR3 or DDR4 memory with a frequency of 1600MHZ plus and a clock rate of at least 9, A GPU with at least 2GB GDDR5 VRAM with a base clock rate of 1020 plus that hopefully isn't incredibly old and some decent fans with PWM support, 120MM plus that can push or pull at least 35CFM at less than 28DBA max, a case that has some front panel USB 3.0 ports and audio in/out with at least 4 expansion slots, 1 external 5.25 bay, 1 2.5 Inch internal bay if possible, and 3 3.5 inch internal bays minimum, with a decent amount of space so probably ATX mid tower, and made of something that isn't 75 percent plastic and isn't full of unnecessary dust intake vents or a million fan mounts that no one will ever use. Pretty basic stuff for the modern age I'd think, but it all racks up pretty fast, so the myth about being able to build a decent gaming or workstation PC for a hoole lot less than just buying a laptop is pretty much crap. That isn't to say that desktops don't have advantages but the price thing is not one of them unless you are utterly hopeless at finding deals.Also, gaming laptops have gotten noticeably better in the past 2 years from what I've seen, especially when it comes to cooling and weight, and while they obviously aren't the same thing as a desktop just do to the lack of expansion and repair options down the road and the inherent performance gap of a mobile processor VS a desktop processor, they still hold their own these days, probably because of the increased competition as new companies like MSI and Lenovo join the bandwagon with an on the go gaming offering of their own.You should really take a look at the comparisons on notebookcheck.net because they give real world performance benchmarks with various games using various mobile graphics cards. And if you want to cross reference that, then try GPU Boss, which is another great site.You'll see that most laptops now, at least those with 2GB GDDR5 VRAM or higher, can hit that 60FPS on 1920 by 1080 resolution sweet spot pretty easily on most games, E.G. those with actually reasonable system requirements, and therefore outperform both the PS4 and XBox wh ich can only reach 30FPS at the same pixel density. Something which many console gamers seem to be just fine with... URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=247253#p247253 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Question about two different processors
Re: Question about two different processors I'm going to have some laptop suggestions for you in my next post Simba, this is just a response to leibylucwgamer and CW.I was tempted to say the same thing about desktops, but if you really look into it, almost all prebuilt gaming boxes have at least 2 or 3 crappy parts that mess up the hole unit, weather it be a stock CPU cooler with accompanying thermal paste, a significantly underpowered PSU with absolutely no breathing room for new parts, cheap cooling fans, a case with bad air dynamics and not many internal expansion options, extremely limited configuration choices most of the time, ETC, so the best idea is to build your own, but based on the OP's level of experience, that doesn't seem to be an option that would appeal to him.And even if you DIY, your still probably going to be spending at least 800 bucks for all of the things you need for an actually decent mid level gaming rig.I'm talking about a decent sized, 128GB or h igher SSD boot drive that can push at least 400MB/S sequential R/RW, able to perform at least 40K IOPS R/RW, a main drive if needed of at least 1TB with 64MB cash with a 7200RPM spindle speed, a motherboard with a decent amount of actual connections and not just dual headers, at least 3 fan connections, hopefully PWM, at least 4 SATA III headers and a decent built in audio codec, like Realtek 892, Asus Crystal Sound, Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi, ETC, an I5 4th gen or FX 4300 CPU minimum, a decent aftermarket CPU cooler that pushes at least 45CFM at under 28DBA max, 500W 80+ bronze certified PSU or higher, 8GB DDR3 or DDR4 with a frequency of 1600MHZ plus and a clock rate of at least 9, A GPU with at least 2GB GDDR5 VRAM with a base clock rate of 1020 plus that hopefully isn't incredibly old and some decent fans with PWM support, 120MM plus that can push or pull at least 35CFM at less than 28DBA max, a case that has some front panel USB 3.0 ports and audio in/out wit h at least 4 expansion slots, 1 external 5.25 bay, 1 2.5 Inch internal bay if possible, and 3 3.5 inch internal bays minimum, with a decent amount of space so probably ATX mid tower, and made of something that isn't 75 percent plastic and isn't full of unnecessary dust intake vents or a million fan mounts that no one will ever use. Pretty basic stuff for the modern age I'd think, but it all racks up pretty fast, so the myth about being able to build a decent gaming or workstation PC for a hoole lot less than just buying a laptop is pretty much crap. That isn't to say that desktops don't have advantages but the price thing is not one of them unless you are utterly hopeless at finding deals.Also, gaming laptops have gotten noticeably better in the past 2 years from what I've seen, especially when it comes to cooling and weight, and while they obviously aren't the same thing as a desktop just do to the lack of expansion and repair options down the road and the inherent performance gap of a mobile processor VS a desktop processor, they still hold their own these days, probably because of the increased competition as new companies like MSI and Lenovo join the bandwagon with an on the go gaming offering of their own.You should really take a look at the comparisons on notebookcheck.net because they give real world performance benchmarks with various games using various mobile graphics cards. And if you want to cross reference that, then try GPU Boss, which is another great site.You'll see that most laptops now, at least those with 2GB GDDR5 VRAM or higher, can hit that 60FPS on 1920 by 1080 resolution sweet spot pretty easily on most games, E.G. those with actually reasonable system requirements, and therefore outperform both the PS4 and XBox which can only reach 3 0FPS at the same pixel density. Something which many console gamers seem to be just fine with... URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=247253#p247253 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Question about two different processors
Re: Question about two different processors I'm going to have some laptop suggestions for you in my next post Simba, this is just a response to leibylucwgamer and CW.I was tempted to say the same thing about desktops, but if you really look into it, almost all prebuilt gaming boxes have at least 2 or 3 crappy parts that mess up the hole unit, weather it be a stock CPU cooler with accompanying thermal paste, a significantly underpowered PSU with absolutely no breathing room for new parts, cheap cooling fans, a case with bad air dynamics and not many internal expansion options, extremely limited configuration options, ETC, so the best idea is to build your own, but based on the OP's level of experience, that doesn't seem to be an option that would appeal to him.And even if you DIY, your still probably going to be spending at least 800 bucks for all of the things you need for an actually decent mid level gaming rig.I'm talking about a decent sized, 128GB or higher SSD boot dr ive that can push at least 400MB/S sequential R/RW, able to perform at least 40K IOPS R/RW, a main drive if needed of at least 1TB with 64MB cash with a 7200RPM spindle speed, a motherboard with a decent amount of actual connections and not just dual headers, at least 3 fan connections, hopefully PWM, at least 4 SATA III headers and a decent built in audio codec, like Realtek 892, Asus Crystal Sound, Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi, ETC, an I5 4th gen or FX 4300 CPU minimum, a decent aftermarket CPU cooler that pushes at least 45CFM at under 28DBA max, 500W 80+ bronze certified PSU or higher, 8GB DDR3 or DDR4 with a frequency of 1600MHZ plus and a clock rate of at least 9, A GPU with at least 2GB GDDR5 VRAM with a base clock rate of 1020 plus that hopefully isn't incredibly old and some decent fans with PWM support, 120MM plus that can push or pull at least 35CFM at less than 28DBA max, a case that has some front panel USB 3.0 ports and audio in/out with at least 4 expa nsion slots, 1 external 5.25 bay, 1 2.5 Inch internal bay if possible, and 3 3.5 inch internal bays minimum, with a decent amount of space so probably ATX mid tower, and made of something that isn't 75 percent plastic and isn't full of unnecessary dust intake vents or a million fan mounts that no one will ever use. Pretty basic stuff for the modern age I'd think, but it all racks up pretty fast, so the myth about being able to build a decent gaming or workstation PC for a hoole lot less than just buying a laptop is pretty much crap. That isn't to say that desktops don't have advantages but the price thing is not one of them unless you are utterly hopeless at finding deals.Also, gaming laptops have gotten noticeably better in the past 2 years from what I've seen, especially when it comes to cooling and weight, and w hile they obviously aren't the same thing as a desktop just do to the lack of expansion and repair options down the road and the inherent performance gap of a mobile processor VS a desktop processor, they still hold their own these days, probably because of the increased competition as new companies like MSI and Lenovo join the bandwagon with an on the go gaming offering of their own.You should really take a look at the comparisons on notebookcheck.net because they give real world performance benchmarks with various games using various mobile graphics cards. And if you want to cross reference that, then try GPU Boss, which is another great site.You'll see that most laptops now, at least those with 2GB GDDR5 VRAM or higher, can hit that 60FPS on 1920 by 1080 resolution sweet spot pretty easily on most games, E.G. those with actually reasonable system requirements, and therefore outperform both the PS4 and XBox which can only reach 30FPS at the same pixel density. Something which many console gamers seem to be just fine with... URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=247253#p247253 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Question about two different processors
Re: Question about two different processors I'm going to have some laptop suggestions for you in my next post Simba, this is just a response to leibylucwgamer and CW.I was tempted to say the same thing about desktops, but if you really look into it, almost all prebuilt gaming boxes have at least 2 or 3 crappy parts that mess up the hole unit, weather it be a stock CPU cooler, a significantly underpowered PSU with absolutely no breathing room for new parts, cheap cooling fans, a case with bad air dynamics and not many internal expansion options, extremely limited configuration options, ETC, so the best idea is to build your own, but based on the OP's level of experience, that doesn't seem to be an option that would appeal to him.And even if you DIY, your still probably going to be spending at least 800 bucks for all of the things you need for an actually decent mid level gaming rig.I'm talking about a decent sized, 128GB or higher SSD boot drive that can push at least 400MB /S sequential R/RW, able to perform at least 40K IOPS R/RW, a main drive if needed of at least 1TB with 64MB cash with a 7200RPM spindle speed, a motherboard with a decent amount of actual connections and not just dual headers, at least 3 fan connections, hopefully PWM, at least 4 SATA III headers and a decent built in audio codec, like Realtek 892, Asus Crystal Sound, Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi, ETC, an I5 4th gen or FX 4300 CPU minimum, a decent aftermarket CPU cooler that pushes at least 45CFM at under 28DBA max, 500W 80+ bronze certified PSU or higher, 8GB DDR3 or DDR4 with a frequency of 1600MHZ plus and a clock rate of at least 9, A GPU with at least 2GB GDDR5 VRAM with a base clock rate of 1020 plus that hopefully isn't incredibly old and some decent fans with PWM support, 120MM plus that can push or pull at least 35CFM at less than 28DBA max, a case that has some front panel USB 3.0 ports and audio in/out with at least 4 expansion slots, 1 external 5.25 bay , 1 2.5 Inch internal bay if possible, and 3 3.5 inch internal bays minimum, with a decent amount of space so probably ATX mid tower, and made of something that isn't 75 percent plastic and isn't full of unnecessary dust intake vents or a million fan mounts that no one will ever use. Pretty basic stuff for the modern age I'd think, but it all racks up pretty fast, so the myth about being able to build a decent gaming or workstation PC for a hoole lot less than just buying a laptop is pretty much crap. That isn't to say that desktops don't have advantages but the price thing is not one of them unless you are utterly hopeless at finding deals.Also, gaming laptops have gotten noticeably better in the past 2 years from what I've seen, especially when it comes to cooling and weight, and while they obviously aren't the same thing as a desktop just do to the lack of expansion and repair options down the road and the inherent performance gap of a mobile processor VS a desktop processor, they still hold their own these days, probably because of the increased competition as new companies like MSI and Lenovo join the bandwagon with an on the go gaming offering of their own.You should really take a look at the comparisons on notebookcheck.net because they give real world performance benchmarks with various games using various mobile graphics cards. And if you want to cross reference that, then try GPU Boss, which is another great site.You'll see that most laptops now, at least those with 2GB GDDR5 VRAM or higher, can hit that 60FPS on 1920 by 1080 resolution sweet spot pretty easily on most games, E.G. those with actually reasonable system requirements, and therefore outperform both the PS4 and XBox which can only reach 30FPS at the same pixel density. Something which m any console gamers seem to be just fine with... URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=247253#p247253 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Question about two different processors
Re: Question about two different processors I'm going to have some laptop suggestions for you in my next post Simba, this is just a response to leibylucwgamer and CW.I was tempted to say the same thing about desktops, but if you really look into it, almost all prebuilt gaming boxes have at least 2 or 3 crappy parts that mess up the hole unit, weather it be a stock CPU cooler, a significantly underpowered PSU with absolutely no breathing room for new parts, cheap cooling fans, a case with bad cooling dynamics and not many internal expansion options, ETC, so the best idea is to build your own, but based on the OP's level of experience, that doesn't seem to be an option that would appeal to him.And even if you DIY, your still probably going to be spending at least 800 bucks for all of the things you need for an actually decent mid level gaming rig.I'm talking about a decent sized, 128GB or higher SSD boot drive that can push at least 400MB/S sequential R/RW, able to perform a t least 40K IOPS R/RW, a main drive if needed of at least 1TB with 64MB cash with a 7200RPM spindle speed, a motherboard with a decent amount of actual connections and not just dual headers, at least 3 fan connections, hopefully PWM, at least 4 SATA III headers and a decent built in audio codec, like Realtek 892, Asus Crystal Sound, Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi, ETC, an I5 4th gen or FX 4300 CPU minimum, a decent aftermarket CPU cooler that pushes at least 45CFM at under 28DBA max, 500W 80+ bronze certified PSU or higher, 8GB DDR3 or DDR4 with a frequency of 1600MHZ plus and a clock rate of at least 9, A GPU with at least 2GB GDDR5 VRAM with a base clock rate of 1020 plus that hopefully isn't incredibly old and some decent fans with PWM support, 120MM plus that can push or pull at least 35CFM at less than 28DBA max, a case that has some front panel USB 3.0 ports and audio in/out with at least 4 expansion slots, 1 external 5.25 bay, 1 2.5 Inch internal bay if possible , and 3 3.5 inch internal bays minimum, with a decent amount of space so probably ATX mid tower, and made of something that isn't 75 percent plastic and isn't full of unnecessary dust intake vents or a million fan mounts that no one will ever use. Pretty basic stuff for the modern age I'd think, but it all racks up pretty fast, so the myth about being able to build a decent gaming or workstation PC for a hoole lot less than just buying a laptop is pretty much crap. That isn't to say that desktops don't have advantages but the price thing is not one of them unless you are utterly hopeless at finding deals.Also, gaming laptops have gotten noticeably better in the past 2 years from what I've seen, especially when it comes to cooling and weight, and while they obviously aren't the same thing as a desktop just do t o the lack of expansion and repair options down the road and the inherent performance gap of a mobile processor VS a desktop processor, they still hold their own these days, probably because of the increased competition as new companies like MSI and Lenovo join the bandwagon with an on the go gaming offering of their own.You should really take a look at the comparisons on notebookcheck.net because they give real world performance benchmarks with various games using various mobile graphics cards. And if you want to cross reference that, then try GPU Boss, which is another great site.You'll see that most laptops now, at least those with 2GB GDDR5 VRAM or higher, can hit that 60FPS on 1920 by 1080 resolution sweet spot pretty easily on most games, E.G. those with actually reasonable system requirements, and therefore outperform both the PS4 and XBox which can only reach 30FPS at the same pixel density. Something which many console gamers seem to be just fi ne with... URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=247253#p247253 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Question about two different processors
Re: Question about two different processors I'm going to have some laptop suggestions for you in my next post Simba, this is just a response to leibylucwgamer and CW.I was tempted to say the same thing about desktops, but if you really look into it, almost all prebuilt gaming boxes have at least 2 or 3 crappy parts that mess up the hole unit, weather it be a stock CPU cooler, a significantly underpowered PSU with absolutely no breathing room for new parts, cheap cooling fans, a case with bad cooling dynamics and not many internal expansion options, ETC, so the best idea is to build your own, but based on the OP's level of experience, that doesn't seem to be an option that would appeal to him.And even if you DIY, your still probably going to be spending at least 800 bucks for all of the things you need for an actually decent mid level gaming rig.Also, gaming laptops have gotten noticeably better in the past 2 years from what I've seen, especially when it comes to cooling and weigh t, and while they obviously aren't the same thing as a desktop, even just do to the lack of expansion and repair options down the road and the inherent performance gap of a mobile processor VS a desktop processor, they still hold their own these days, probably because of the increased competition as new companies like MSI and Lenovo join the bandwagon with a mobile gaming offering of their own.You should really take a look at the comparisons on notebookcheck.net because they give real world performance benchmarks with various games using various mobile graphics cards.You'll see that most laptops now, at least those with 2GB GDDR5 VRAM or higher, can hit that 60FPS on 1920 by 1080 resolution sweet spot pretty easily on most games, E.G. those with actually reasonable system requirements, and therefore outperform both the PS4 and XBox which can only reach 30FPS at the same pixel density. Something which many console gamers seem to be just fine with... URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=247253#p247253 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Question about two different processors
Re: Question about two different processors I would suggest if you're seriously contemplating a system that can handle mainstream games, you should reconsider switching to a desktop unit. They will be less expensive and provide more bank for your buck. Laptops cost more quite obviously for the portability factor.Bare in mind that if you do decide to stick with a laptop you will be spending quite possibly over $1,000. As for the post about a MacBook, the hardware on the Mac models are much more expensive than a Windows model. In any case, I suggest looking into Alienware or possibly the Asus models -- they can provide good machines dedicated to gaming. That's why you see manufacturers categorize their products by use rather than straight specs (average users don't understand the jargon).Best Regards,Luke URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=247229#p247229 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Question about two different processors
Re: Question about two different processors Hi.Thanks for all the answers and infos.Well, that gets a lot harder right now. Do you guys have any suggestion for a laptop which I could get?Maybe you know one model which I can look at and see what I more need. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=247194#p247194 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Question about two different processors
Re: Question about two different processors With a laptop like that, it's more important to have an efficient dedicated graphics card than a powerful processor.Only a few games really use the CPU much, preferring to offload the work to the GPU instead, but if you only have the integrated Intel HD graphics, than you probably won't be able to run many games, weather or not you care about how they look, since most games have minimum requirements you must meet before they can even start, or at least play without constantly stuttering.So that said, you can probably get away with an AMD A8 or A10 processor too, along with the Intel chips that I suggested above, as long as it's a quad core.For a graphics card you'll need to have an NVIDIA Geforce GTX 700, 800 or 900 series, or an AMD Radeon R7 or R9 series chip, with at least 2GB of DDR5 memory, 4GB if it's DDR3.The DDR5 part is quite important, because DDR3 is much slower and you need more of it to get the same result, also try for the 900 and R9 cards respectively over the older 700, 800 and R7 cards, since they should run cooler.In terms of price, for a brand new current generation laptop, your probably looking at 900 to 1200 dollars American, maybe less if you find a limited time deal.If you want an older laptop that's still pretty serviceable, then I'm guessing that it's gonna be somewhere between 600 and 800. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=247188#p247188 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Question about two different processors
Re: Question about two different processors With a laptop like that, it's more important to have an efficient dedicated graphics card than a powerful processor.Only a few games really use the CPU much, preferring to offload the work to the GPU instead, but if you only have the integrated Intel HD graphics, than you probably won't be able to run many games, weather or not you care about how they look, since most games have minimum requirements you must meet before they can even start, or at least play without constantly stuttering.So that said, you can probably get away with an AMD A8 or A10 processor too, along with the Intel chips that I suggested above, as long as it's a quad core.For a graphics card you'll need to have an NVIDIA Geforce GTX 700, 800 or 900 series, or an AMD Radeon R7 or R9 series chip, with at least 2GB of DDR5 memory, 4GB if it's DDR3.The DDR5 part is quite important, because DDR3 is much slower and you need more of it to get the same result, also try for the 900 and R9 cards respectively over the older 700, 800 and R7 cards, since they should run cooler.In terms of price, for a brand new current generation laptop, your probably looking at 900 to 1100 dollars American, maybe less if you find a limited time deal.If you want an older laptop that's still pretty serviceable, then I'm guessing that it's gonna be somewhere between 600 and 800. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=247188#p247188 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Question about two different processors
Re: Question about two different processors With a laptop like that, it's more important to have an efficient dedicated graphics card than a powerful processor.Only a few games really use the CPU much, preferring to offload the work to the GPU instead, but if you only have the integrated Intel HD graphics, than you probably won't be able to run many games, weather or not you care about how they look, since most games have minimum requirements you must meet before they can even start, or at least play without constantly stuttering.So that said, you can probably get away with an AMD A8 or A10 processor too, along with the Intel chips that I suggested above, as long as it's a quad core.For a graphics card you'll need to have an NVIDIA Geforce GTX 800 or 900 series, or an AMD Radeon R7 or R9 series chip, with at least 2GB of DDR5 memory, preferably 4GB.The DDR5 part is quite important, because DDR3 is much slower and you need more of it to get the same result, also try for the 900 and R9 cards respectively over the older 800 and R7 cards. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=247188#p247188 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Question about two different processors
Re: Question about two different processors With a laptop like that, it's more important to have an efficient dedicated graphics card than a powerful processor.Only a few games really use the CPU much, preferring to offload the work to the GPU instead, but if you only have the integrated Intel HD graphics, than you probably won't be able to run many games, weather or not you care about how they look, since most games have minimum requirements you must meet before they can even start, or at least play without constantly stuttering.So that said, you can probably get away with an AMD A8 or A10 processor too, along with the Intel chips that I suggested above, as long as it's a quad core.For a graphics card you'll need to have an NVIDIA Geforce GTX 700, 800 or 900 series, or an AMD Radeon R7 or R9 series chip, with at least 2GB of DDR5 memory, 4GB if it's DDR3.The DDR5 part is quite important, because DDR3 is much slower and you need more of it to get the same result, also try for the 900 and R9 cards respectively over the older 700, 800 and R7 cards, since they should run cooler. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=247188#p247188 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Question about two different processors
Re: Question about two different processors You can actually get away with playing mainstream games on a laptop if you want, though as people said don't expect it then to remain quiet or cool. For games, you're gonna want something with dedicated graphics. My 2013 MacBook pro with it's Geforce 650M can handle Both MK 10 and GTA V, they sound fine at least and play well, so any laptop that has a dedicated Geforce 750M or newer should be able to work. Those are usualy backed with a propper, quad-core I7 and at least 8 gigs of ram, so there should't be many things that computer won't handle in terms of daily tasks. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=247187#p247187 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Question about two different processors
Re: Question about two different processors As for main stream games, you really don't want to play them on any laptop. Main stream games require good proccessors graphics and alot of ram. If you get a laptop for playing main stream games, you would be giving up battery life. Now, if you are getting one to play audio games, then you would get away with a basic midrange laptop seeing that audio games do not demend alot out of power. As for your question on processers, that can be a challedge to answer. The I5 and I7 have the same amount of cores. The differents comes to how the proccesser uses the cores. The I7 basicly tells windows that the four cores that it has are 8. Not only that, it acts like it at times. Lets put it this way. You have 8 wagons of your favor things that you want to move. The I5 is hooking four hourses to four wagons and moving them to a different location and bringing the hourse around for the other four. The I7 is hooking 2 wagons to each of those hourses so that you have four hourse pulling 8 wa gons. That is the best way to explain that. Now let's add to this. Your hard drive is the place where you store all your things that you put into the wagons. Your ram is like the loading dock or plat form that you bback the wagons up to to load them. This loading dock thing has a wide enough area to have all eight wagons backed up to load stuf. There is a door from the storage room to this loading dock thing. The bigger the door, the more you can fit through it. The bigger the load dock the more you can load, or have ready to load. The bigger the wagon, the more it can carry. The bigger the tellgate of the wagon, the faster you can move stuff from the dock to the wagon. Now I think I am done typing now. What, you are still reading? LOL. HTH. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=247181#p247181 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Question about two different processors Hi.What about playing mainstream games on a laptop? Things like street fighter or mortal kombat?Do you have maybe a price range in which this will fall? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=247177#p247177 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Question about two different processors
Re: Question about two different processors Basically, it doesn't matter, at all, not unless your doing some seriously high powered stuff like multicore video and audio conversion or compression of massive files all the time. Something you really don't want to be doing on a laptop anyway because of the heat and build quality.As processors get more efficient, new versions of operating systems also happen to get better at running on slower, older hardware, so the difference, especially between processors, becomes less and less of an issue.There is barely any difference between Broadwell and Skylake in a laptop, especially for a reasonable price, since the only big thing is the new type of faster and cooler running RAM that it supports, which right now, is still quite expensive, along with the processors them selves, so I would wait until the next generation before adopting DDR4 memory.The difference between Hazwell and Broadwell is more defined in terms of speed and power efficiency, but only with the early versions, not Hazwell Refresh or Crystalwell.Also, if graphics cards matter to you, any processor that has an Intel HD5000 or HD6000 series GPU is going to be nicer to look at.Your pretty much going to be fine with a processor that's I3 or above, Hazwell Refresh or later, and at least 1.7GHZ base for everyday tasks and at least 2.2GHZ base for more demanding ones.Look up a processor name on google and find it on arc.Intel.com, the specifications listed there will help you, and if you are trying to choose between 2 specific processors, try CPU Boss.In the specifications, you want to be looking for processors that have 2 threads per core and at least 3MB of cash, Turbo Boost and Hyper Threading are nice to have, but not vital.Quad Cores aren't needed for most people, either. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=247176#p247176 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Question about two different processors
Re: Question about two different processors Basically, it doesn't matter, at all, not unless your doing some seriously high powered stuff like multicore video conversion or compression of massive files all the time. Something you really don't want to be doing on a laptop anyway because of the heat and build quality.As processors get more efficient, new versions of operating systems also happen to get better at running on slower, older hardware, so the difference, especially between processors, becomes less and less of an issue.There is barely any difference between Broadwell and Skylake in a laptop, especially for a reasonable price, since the only big thing is the new type of faster and cooler running RAM that it supports, which right now, is still quite expensive, along with the processors them selves, so I would wait until the next generation before adopting DDR4.The difference between Hazwell and Broadwell is more defined in terms of speed and power efficiency, but only with the early v ersions, not Hazwell Refresh or Crystalwell.Also, if graphics cards matter to you, any processor that has an Intel HD5000 or HD6000 series GPU is going to be nicer to look at.Your pretty much going to be fine with a processor that's I3 or above, Hazwell Refresh or later, and at least 1.7GHZ base for everyday tasks and at least 2.2GHZ base for more demanding ones.Look up a processor name on google and find it on arc.Intel.com, the specifications listed there will help you, and if you are trying to choose between 2 specific processors, try CPU Boss.In the specifications, you want to be looking for processors that have 2 threads per core and at least 3MB of cash, Turbo Boost and Hyper Threading are nice to have, but not vital. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=247176#p247176 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Question about two different processors Hey, urgh ok, let's make buying a laptop a lot harder.So, what you basically mean is that if I want a good laptop, I dont always need to look in the higher price regions?Maybe someone has an idea for a good laptop.The things I want to do with the computer is working, like with office tools, play some games, next to the audiogames some mainstream games too.Then the basic things like watching movies, listen to music and all that other basic stuff.Does someone havve an idea on what I could get? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=247167#p247167 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Question about two different processors There are many factors that could be a reason for the speed difference you say you are noticing. It could be other hardware in the computer, like the hard drive or even the software on the operating systems. Preinstalled Windows from OEM's can sometimes be extremely slow because of all the software in the background eating up CPU time and disk operations.The other thing to consider is that there are a lot of different kinds of processors, both in the I5 and I7 ranges. In theory, the I7 is more powerful than an I5. In practice it all depends on the version. Recently Intel started to release I5's and I7's optimised for energy efficiency and size. These often end up in things like new ultrabooks or the new Mac Mini. They're smaller, use a lot less energy and of course don't run as fast as a result. They also usually have only 2 cores with hyperthreading compared to 4 cores for a the other I7's found in more conventional laptops and desktops. The sa me can be said for the I5 processors. If you buy a normal mid range laptop that has a core I5, it's very likely it will be able to outperform an I7 in a more expensive ultrabook.When trying to figure out that sort of information, look on Intel's site first, which will give you the actual number of cores in a processor, you can also look for reviews of the computer that you're interested in or other computers that also happen to have that processor in them. One site I really like for in-depth performance info is AnandTech which, if you can get passed the fact they split up their reviews into 2 pages is very good and has way more than enough information. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=247164#p247164 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Question about two different processors
Question about two different processors Hello.Iam searching for a new Laptop and I have a questionregarding the processor.A friend of mine has a machine with an Intel core i5 build in which works at about 2.5 ghz in normal mode and about 3.0 ghz in the Turbo boost mode, It*s from the last Generation of processors, not the skylake one, the one before that.One of the machines I found has an Intel core i7 build in, and this one is from the skylake Generation of Intels processors.The strange Thing is that it sems to be working slower than the older i5 processor. As far as I found out, the unit works at 2.5 ghz up to 2.9 or 3.0 ghz when in Turbo boost.Is that normal, or is something wrong there? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=247158#p247158 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
