Re: It's time to moderate the moderators, before it's too late

2019-07-26 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : Liam via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: It's time to moderate the moderators, before it's too late

Hi.the irony of this post is that literally in the next hour or so I was going to post about this very thing. I could have saved you a ton of writing, but thank you for writing this. it is good to know how the community feels. There are a lot of valid points here.

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Re: It's time to moderate the moderators, before it's too late

2019-07-26 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : Jayde via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: It's time to moderate the moderators, before it's too late

I agree with a lot of this.On one hand, I'm not fond of piracy, particularly if people are trying to then sell their product. Ripping people off is no good. On the other hand, stuff that's free and which may infringe in only small ways, while technically illegal, is harming almost no one.The reality is a simple one. If there was ever a time to crack down on this really, really hard, that time was probably long gone. It's probably too late to do the truly ideal thing here, both from a community perspective and a legal one, without simply blowing up the community.

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Re: It's time to moderate the moderators, before it's too late

2019-07-27 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : Dark via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: It's time to moderate the moderators, before it's too late

I have tried to keep generally quiet about this issue since I don't want to step on the toes of the current administration team, however I will say I am in complete agreement with Robjoy here, and  heartily relieved that the moderators did not take such a destructive move, indeed the staff will recall I sent an email to the mods list yesterday evening about this subject. personally, my stance on copywrite has always been "what protects game creators," which was the stance I followed when I was involved with forum administration, not share holders, not companies, but the actual creative people who make audiogames possible. This was why I always asked people to remove links to copywrited  films or other content to at why I was dead against game piracy from individual creators, but why I saw nothing wrong with using sounds from mainstream games in free projects much as graphical indi game creators do (just go and browse somewhere like retroremakes). so, I am sincerely glad that moderation, in the true sense of the word, that is a reasonable compromise has finally prevailedd.

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Re: It's time to moderate the moderators, before it's too late

2019-07-27 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : Liam via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: It's time to moderate the moderators, before it's too late

I think it's a fair compromise for everyone honestly. I'm glad we could make this happen.

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Re: It's time to moderate the moderators, before it's too late

2019-07-27 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : Dark via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: It's time to moderate the moderators, before it's too late

I have tried to keep generally quiet about this issue since I don't want to step on the toes of the current administration team, however I will say I am in complete agreement with Robjoy here, and  heartily relieved that the moderators did not take such a destructive move, indeed the staff will recall I sent an email to the mods list yesterday evening about this subject. personally, my stance on copywrite has always been "what protects game creators," which was the stance I followed when I was involved with forum administration, not share holders, not companies, but the actual creative people who make audiogames possible. This was why I always asked people to remove links to copywrited  films or other content to try and keep the forum safe, and why I was dead against game piracy from individual creators, but why I saw nothing wrong with using sounds from mainstream games in free projects much as graphical indi game creators do (just go and browse somewhere like retroremakes). so, I am sincerely glad that moderation, in the true sense of the word, that is a reasonable compromise has finally prevailed.

URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/451400/#p451400




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Re: It's time to moderate the moderators, before it's too late

2019-07-27 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : defender via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: It's time to moderate the moderators, before it's too late

You mention that we should allow things unless they become an issue, but remove them in a heartbeat if they do.Would this not often devolve into a he said she said back and forth though?  Particularly with the maturity levels of most current developers?Hell someone could just accuse another of doing this to get back at them for some off forum crap, and it would come down to others to attempt to sort it out.It doesn't seem much better for the mods, and I promise you that people suspected of steeling sounds will still be raked over the coals by the community.I tend to think that shutting these things down fast is a better option, but of course then you run into the same exact issue with the burden of proof.We would then likely be trading more drama for less combing through evidence, without much of a stress reduction for the mods.

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