Re: Space Agents - a new mud in development stages
2014-10-23
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : jesseleivo via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Space Agents - a new mud in development stages Hello,Just to let you know, Space Agents is dead. The database was deleted due to personal respect issues between Dgleks and I, and I cannot recover the database and I have no other hosting services. I am probably going to delete this topic someday. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=192835#p192835 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Space Agents - a new mud in development stages
Re: Space Agents - a new mud in development stages Alright, everybody. Im done. Im shutting spaceagents down soon and delete the database of all my resources and the server probably, and after a day or 2, this topic will go boom.Ive had enough of this drama. I just wanted to make a cool mud.And tbh I am really not a master of moo coding, I just know a bit. So I personally think I will fail at making a good moo.Jesseleivo URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=191732#p191732 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Space Agents - a new mud in development stages
2014-10-11
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : jesseleivo via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Space Agents - a new mud in development stages Alright, everybody. Im done. Im shutting spaceagents down soon and delete the database of all my resources and the server probably, and after a day or 2, this topic will go boom.Ive had enough of this drama. I just wanted to make a cool mud.And tbh I am really not a master of moo coding, I just know a bit. So I personally think I will fail at making a good moo.Jesseleivo URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=191732#p191732 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Space Agents - a new mud in development stages
Re: Space Agents - a new mud in development stages Moderation! I have moved this topic out of new releases if actually there isnt a new released game to play anyway. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=191734#p191734 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Space Agents - a new mud in development stages
2014-10-11
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : audiogames . net fan via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Space Agents - a new mud in development stages This is my first, and will be my last, post on this topic.Personally, I think it is for the better that this MOO is taken down. Jesse, if you want to make a MOO, code it from the ground up from lambdacore or encore or v-core or this so-called dglexsoft core Daniel will be releasing or another core, or even wipe all the ships and planets from the cosmos db and start new with new ship classes, etc with just the basic starship fraimwork and stuff. Personaly I think you would have better results coding from the ground up like danny and Daniel did for vs. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=191760#p191760 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Space Agents - a new mud in development stages
Re: Space Agents - a new mud in development stages Hi, I am going to ask a question here. @guilevi: Why did you try to take his moo down? I think you should have let him be. Anyway, I am just wondering, no offence to anyone. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=191761#p191761 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Space Agents - a new mud in development stages
2014-10-11
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : jesseleivo via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Space Agents - a new mud in development stages Actually, the permanent shutdown of space agents has been cancelled and this topic will not die. I was just angry because a lot of people said me that it sucks because im using the cosmos core. Its staying alive for now. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=191821#p191821 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Space Agents - a new mud in development stages
Re: Space Agents - a new mud in development stages I totally agree with @dark here. I only posted here to try to clear the tension and all it did was make it worse. This is, of course, my last post on this topic. I never intended to get into this sub-blind community which does nothing more than mess with cosmos and pretend its a stock moo, but well, I got dragged into it by Danny here. He might not have done it willingly but well, here I am. Right now Im as bad off as Jesseleivo, Dglex or anyone else arguing on this thread, and if Dark would have banned all of us instead of just posting a warning moderation post (which by the way I greatly appreciate) I would have understood. That about wraps it up for my post. Again, thank you for reading. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=191652#p191652 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Space Agents - a new mud in development stages
Re: Space Agents - a new mud in development stages Moderation! guilevii, your appology is appreciated. The warning here was intended to be generally directed to all of the people who usually seem to get in a huge flame war when one of these muds gets discussed, if anyone were in danger of being banned Id have posted a specific warning to the individuals involved. I am hoping such things can be avoided. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=191659#p191659 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Space Agents - a new mud in development stages
Re: Space Agents - a new mud in development stages @jesseleivo as I stated before, I did indeed plan to get rid of your moo. Your definition of my acts as childish makes no sense. Honestly, the reasons I did what I did were your childish actions. I did expect you to have a backup, but I thought that failure at administrating your moo would at least teach you the lesson and make you re-think releasing space agents. After a while Ive discovered its pointless to talk to you. You all might think like Leivo here and believe all Ive been doing and will continue to do is childish, but its too late for me. I got involved in the blindy moo drama by a person I wont bother to mention here and Im not about to let it take over the audiogames community. I hav eno time for this, but as you all know, once you get into this crap, you cant get out easily. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=191600#p191600 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Space Agents - a new mud in development stages
Re: Space Agents - a new mud in development stages Man at times like this, I wish I could start out a post with the magical word, Moderation! but I cant, so Ill just say...Wannabe Moderation!Please, please, please, take your personal arguments with each other to private messages, or off the forum entirely. These posts serve no purpose in a public place, except to clog topics with childish behavior, and messages about childish behavior.Rofl! URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=191607#p191607 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Space Agents - a new mud in development stages
Re: Space Agents - a new mud in development stages Hello!@Jesseleivo If I remember correctly, the reason I revoked your host status from Vast Space and Vast Space (Classic) was because you were making my team look bad, and you yourself tried to recycle all children of #1.What Guilevi had done may have been a little uncalled for at that point, mind you I dont know why he did it so I cant judge, you did it for revenge. And for something that happened on a totally different game.-Dgleks-Dglexsoft URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=191611#p191611 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Space Agents - a new mud in development stages
Re: Space Agents - a new mud in development stages Heres what I personally think on the ishue. Its no secret that I am not a fan of the cosmos database, but its just my opinion. Fair enough, I wont play it. Prome is an acception because they are, in my eyes trying to show people that they can actualy do something with this core. But as long as you have a database like cosmos floating around the net, so to will their be people wanting to use it to open a mud. Its no different than if I were to release a super awsome game engine, people hate it, yet it gets used. Bad exampple I know. Anyways, ill agree with post 22 here. If you really must make a big fight over this, please, I beg of you, take it off here and to some other place where we dont need to see it. If people really want to play jesses moo, then thats perfectly fine. If jesse wants to go through the struggles of being a coder/developer, let him. It simpply isnt worth it to try and stop people using the cosmos db or tell them t o not release it, because it will happen weather we like it or not. Now, onto the recent discussion. I do know exactly whats been going on seeing as I was on vast space as an administrator, but havent loged on recently. Jesse, you were band for a specific reason. What guilevi did may have been harsh, it may have been a little over the top, but the key here is to look the other way. This is what I mean about being a coder, its not easy, its harsh, and sometimes you will do things that people dont like. OK, I may as well stop now, but just one more time, please take the hole argument about what happened off this forum. People dont need to see it, and posting about it is only gonna damage your moos reputation. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=191629#p191629 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Space Agents - a new mud in development stages
Re: Space Agents - a new mud in development stages Moderation! Jaybird and Danny are correct on this. frankly I do not know the long stream of who has done what to whom here on whatever mud, and to be honest from the perspective of the forum I do not exactly care. Either stop the bickering or I will close the topic.I will also add that whenever cosmos, spaceworlds, or any of these other space muds people are making come up the amount of childish name calling is ridiculous and overblown. I personally am put right off these games by such shenanigans, sinse if a developer cannot be civil on a forum I certainly would not trust them to run and fairly moderate a mud, and I imagine many possible new players think the same. I know there are charges of plagerism, as well as lots of other accusations, but really, the debate over these games has just dragged on and become quite ridiculous. I suggest that jesseleivo, Dgleks, guilevi and anyone else involved go and sort out your differences off the forum and at least come to an agreement not to start up this ongoing arguement with each other if your going to start announcing developed muds to the wider community. In the mean time, can we please! have a bit of civility. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=191632#p191632 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Space Agents - a new mud in development stages
Re: Space Agents - a new mud in development stages Guilevi. Just saying, youre not getting through me that easily anymore. When I wized you 2 times, you have proven that you dont deserve it By attempting to destroy it. Making an endless loop at me and recycling kids of #1 is just childish. And you attempted to fucking crash my Computer. So, even if you came to my moo and i discover who you are, youre not getting wizard bits anymore considering you tried to destroy it. And yes, you actually did, because I and dgleks had to restore the database to a jun 9 copy. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=191587#p191587 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Space Agents - a new mud in development stages
Re: Space Agents - a new mud in development stages And By the way, space agents is back up. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=191588#p191588 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Space Agents - a new mud in development stages
Re: Space Agents - a new mud in development stages Yeah. I was meant to launch 100 ships, but some ships launched shitloads of ships and there was a shitload of them in the sector, but I fixed those ships a few days back. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=191441#p191441 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Space Agents - a new mud in development stages
Re: Space Agents - a new mud in development stages Dgleks, can I try out your core? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=191443#p191443 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Space Agents - a new mud in development stages
Re: Space Agents - a new mud in development stages Hi,This core sounds interesting, although I wouldnt ahve the first idea of how to run it. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=191447#p191447 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Space Agents - a new mud in development stages
Re: Space Agents - a new mud in development stages Hello,Im going to try to be brief here, most of you all know what I think about this whole cosmos thing so its not even worth it to waste my time explaining. This is, in fact, yet another cosmos clone. I have been on it a few times, even tried to take it down so Jesse didnt go as far as he already has gone, but it was useless. As Ive said many times before, the cosmos database wasnt even supposed to be released in the first place, so the fact that so many people it is bad enough, no matter how much they modify it (Im looking at you too, @prometheusmoo). Jesse is just jealous of Miriani, and cosmos is the closest thing he could find to it. Since this topic has been discussed in this forum so many times before, I here please ask the moderators to consider closing this topic. Im not trying to cause any drama with this, but avoid it.Thanks for reading! URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=191463#p191463 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Space Agents - a new mud in development stages
Re: Space Agents - a new mud in development stages Seriously, you have got to be joking, right?First off. While I dont condone the fact that jesse may have put his moo up running on a stock cosmos, nore do I condone the fact that everyone seems to be showing off their grate english skills by swairing constantly over it.Jesse, understand this isnt a rant against you, but some people are right, you may have launched way too early. My advice. Shut the game down, at least to players for now, until youve got something worth showing off besides some shiny new ships and planets. Im not saying it to hert you, im only giving you advice so you dont get into big trouble with other people over this. Take my advice or leave it. To the rest of you. While I understand that the cosmos db caused a lot of friction, but swairing, yelling at him, and pointing fingers isnt going to make you look like the better person. Please, try not to complicate this even more and turn it into a gigantic flaimwa r like the last one, ok? If not for your fello audio game developers, then for the hole of audiogames.net as a community. Just stay silant and the thread will eventualy die out. If you dont like the game, simpple, dont play it, thats all their is to it. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=191487#p191487 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Space Agents - a new mud in development stages
Re: Space Agents - a new mud in development stages Hello!Spaceagents has currently been shut down do to personal respect issues between Jesseleivo and I, and will probably stay that way if things dont progress towards the good side.@Jesseleivo, sure, my core will be released and youd be able to get a copy of it.@Aaron, its easy, if you know how to compile a GammaMOO server, yo simply run it like that or with the windows port.However, it runs on my customized Dglexsoft server code, so it might be a little rocky on the normal downloadable server.-Dgleks-Dglexsoft URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=191508#p191508 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Space Agents - a new mud in development stages
Re: Space Agents - a new mud in development stages Hi,Nice to see theres another MUD. However, I do have a question.Since there are quite a lot of space MUDS out there, what do you wish to do to make yours different from the rest? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=191336#p191336 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Space Agents - a new mud in development stages
Re: Space Agents - a new mud in development stages For the ones that have already created a character on my mud, the database is probably getting restored because I deleted the char of the person that is hosting it for some reason i wont mention, and hes too lazy to make his stuff again and recreate. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=191352#p191352 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Space Agents - a new mud in development stages
Re: Space Agents - a new mud in development stages Alright.Hello, Im Dgleks, owner of Dglexsoft.@Jesseleivo, I believe Im pretty sure I told you not to publish your MOO to the public.Furthermore, all you have is a Cosmos database with very few modifications.Ill ad mit Vast Space (Classic) was along those lines, but I didnt release as just stock. I actually wiped out all players/ships, which Im sure you probably tried to do too, however I added activities of my own.I sat there the other day watching as you stole ideas from other MOOs like Spaceworlds, making your flight control scanners flight control monitors.None the less, your reputation of fucking around with wizard commands doesnt excuse the fact that youre not ready to run a game.I hosted your MUD for you to have your own little playing ground, but in the past few days all youve done is spawn thousands of enemy praelor or whatever the fuck you called them like an idiot and almost flooded my server.Then, you go and delete my character because of a completely different matter, and before collecting full details.I do not wish to receive hatemail regarding your MOO, and if I do, ill be shutting it down.Thank you!-Dgleks-Dglexsoft URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=191369#p191369 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Space Agents - a new mud in development stages
Re: Space Agents - a new mud in development stages Dgleks. I didnt fucking call my games ships an idiot. It was an ic event and you should know it. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=191381#p191381 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Space Agents - a new mud in development stages
Re: Space Agents - a new mud in development stages Moderation!Please try to keep this discussion civil if possible, without insulting each other. Thank you. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=191383#p191383 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Space Agents - a new mud in development stages
Re: Space Agents - a new mud in development stages @Aaron sorry, I do not mean to insult anyone here, Im simply attempting to pointing certain aspects and flaws of Jesseleivos plans out. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=191386#p191386 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Space Agents - a new mud in development stages
Re: Space Agents - a new mud in development stages There are many similar ideas already out there. What about this mud is different than the others? Does it have a particular storyline or interconnectedness between features that makes this mud different to the others? From the current conversation of this thread it is hard to determine what the mud actually is. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=191392#p191392 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Space Agents - a new mud in development stages
2014-10-06
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AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : PrometheusMOO via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Space Agents - a new mud in development stages @Jesseleivo: Sir, we do think that your attempt of publishing something that is truely and fully based on another game is, to be truely honest with you, pretty foolish. If that is what you are doing, as Cosmos itself has caused enough drama as a game, shutting it down would probably be the best option here. Truely coding a game is one thing, putting up and actually publishing a game thats a stock one over here is another one entirely.Regards,Prometheus, the Administration Team. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=191391#p191391 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Space Agents - a new mud in development stages
Re: Space Agents - a new mud in development stages Hi,@dglex: I realize that you were pointing out floors, which is fine, but from what Ive seen in the past, cosmos-style muds can just cause huge drama-filled topics, itd be nice to see if some of the more experienced muddres here could give some suggestions on what theyd like to see in this new mud, although maybe start simple. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=191404#p191404 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Space Agents - a new mud in development stages
Re: Space Agents - a new mud in development stages @Aaron thats a good idea.@Jesseleivo, I strongly recommend you put up a fresh copy of the LambdaCore and code from the ground up, and then maybe if suggestions are posted here you can code them.Hell, you could even use the soon coming DglexsoftCore, which comes predefined with a builtin webserver, ansi color, a virtual exit system supporting both object and virtual exits at the same time, out of band MCP support, and a few more things.Speaking of which, if anyone wants to see this core released to the public here please reply and let me know. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=191421#p191421 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
