[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Wired vs. Wireless audio differences

2005-07-08 Thread Aylwin

seanadams Wrote: 
 I am not going to answer any more questions in this thread until someone
 is willing to try a blind test. It only takes a few minutes.
 
 There is no logical explanation as to why wired vs wireless should
 sound different.
Couldn't agree more.


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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Wired vs. Wireless audio differences

2005-07-08 Thread MrKegFlex

seanadams Wrote: 
 I am not going to answer any more questions in this thread until someone
 is willing to try a blind test. It only takes a few minutes.
 
 There is no logical explanation as to why wired vs wireless should
 sound different. I could explain all the science behind this, but it's
 completely irrelevant - just let your EARS tell you. If you claim
 night/day differences then you should have no problem passing the
 Pepsi challenge. Please give it a try.

Just to make sure there is no confusion, I don't believe the
night/day comparision was used to describe the difference between a
wired and wireless connection.  It was used in my post to compare the
difference between my cd player and a wireless sb2.  

In my case, I suspect either a setup problem with the sb2, the sb2 is
doing something I'm not aware of, bad lossless files, or possibly my cd
player is doing something I am not aware of.  Support has been quick to
respond and explain that the sb2 is not doing something I am not aware
of that would affect the audio, so I'm ruling that out.  I have
rechecked my sb2 settings and I'm pretty sure I can eliminate that
variable now too.  So, I'm now looking into how I created my flac/wma
lossless files and my cd player specs.  

FWIW, in my scenario, I was able to setup a wired/wireless test last
night. I did a quick 5 minute test and I couldn't tell a difference
between the two.  However, I have a friend swinging by this weekend and
I will have him take a blind test too to see if he can hear a
difference...  and I plan to give the test more time than 5 minutes to
sample different material.


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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Wired vs. Wireless audio differences

2005-07-08 Thread Andrew L . Weekes

-From my understanding jitter is a time based issue that occurs when the
timing on the transmission side is unstable and the DAC uses this
unstable timing as a basis for conversion.-

That is true.

-I would presume the Squeezebox or XBMC in my case would read the FLAC
file into a buffer and then send it via the digital output to the
receiver where the DA conversion would take place. If this were the
case as long as the buffer was never empty the wireless-ness of the
transmission should not contribute to jitter in my opinion.-

What you may have overlooked here is there will be jitter on the
transmission interface to the DAC and it is this jitter (and this
jitter only) that can cause audible degradation, depending on the DAC's
jitter transfer function (i.e. how much jitter on the interface gets to
the DAC clock). In the case of a Benchmark DAC1, it's none, for other
DAC's it varies a lot, depending upon how well engineered they are in
terms of the SPDIF interface, the receiver circuitry, the clock
regeneration etc.

Andy.


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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Stick with SB1 or get SB2?

2005-07-08 Thread lilolee

17th sounds good to me. About midday? I'll make some food.


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Cheers

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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Wired vs. Wireless audio differences

2005-07-08 Thread Andrew L . Weekes

These links make good reading: -

http://www.benchmarkmedia.com/appnotes-d/jittercu.html

lots more here: -

http://www.pinkfishmedia.net/forum/showthread.php?s=threadid=10480

Andy.


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