Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] problem with Transporter
like in the howard stern movie, she tipped over the speaker sub pointing up, turned off the treble and cranked the bass and volume, then sat on the speaker as he mumbled and sputtered - that seemed to transport her! -- david.kuller david.kuller's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14089 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41026 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Output Stage Questions
Thanks Sean. I think people fail to understand that proper analog circuit design is a more fundamental driver of audio fidelity than the price of the component parts. Simply adding boutique audiophile parts will not necessarily make things better -- often it makes things worse! Here's an article by Bob Pease that puts some of this into perspective: http://electronicdesign.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=13166 -- WilCox WilCox's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10508 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41065 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Just about had heart failure.
Just put up the xmas tree. The tree has to go where one of the speakers sits. So... I have moved the speaker next to the other for the xmas period. Turned music on to listen to some tunes while we decorate the tree. To my horror it sounds awful. All the low end has gone. I think to myself don't panic I have probably knocked a connection. I go through the lot from power, amp, sb to speakers and all is ok. I then go through sb settings, resttart server etc. Still the same. Just about in tears I think well the only thing that has changed is the possition of the speakers. But they are next to each other and in a corner which should equal shed loads of bass/low end. I disconnect one of the speakers and booom. Low end back. Reconnect and try the other and the same thing, sounds normal. All I can think of is the speakers so close either some of the low end out... PHEW!! -- mikeruss mikeruss's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9023 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41080 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Just about had heart failure.
mikeruss;249202 Wrote: Just put up the xmas tree. The tree has to go where one of the speakers sits. So... I have moved the speaker next to the other for the xmas period. Turned music on to listen to some tunes while we decorate the tree. To my horror it sounds awful. All the low end has gone. I think to myself don't panic I have probably knocked a connection. I go through the lot from power, amp, sb to speakers and all is ok. I then go through sb settings, resttart server etc. Still the same. Just about in tears I think well the only thing that has changed is the possition of the speakers. But they are next to each other and in a corner which should equal shed loads of bass/low end. I disconnect one of the speakers and booom. Low end back. Reconnect and try the other and the same thing, sounds normal. All I can think of is the speakers so close either some of the low end out... PHEW!! are you sure they aren't out of phase? - that would explain it... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... ...SB3+TACT+Altmann+MF DACXV3/Linn tri-amped Aktiv 5.1 system and some very expensive cables ;o) Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41080 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Just about had heart failure.
agreed, that really sound like they're out of phase. Check your connections, but even if the external connections look correct it might be worth taking the woofer out to make sure it's wired correctly internally. -- seanadams seanadams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41080 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Output Stage Questions
When we are at it. One question Mr Adams. As the evaluation board of the AKM4397 from AKM uses the exact same values for all parts as the evaluation board of the AKM4396 and the Transporter but the LME49710 instead of the NE5534. Did you test your Transporter circuit with the LME49710 in? -- Wombat Transporter - Avantgarde based monoblocks - self-made speakers Wombat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4113 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41065 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Just about had heart failure.
Just check and the cables are OK - so not too sure. But thety do sound ok if they are appart... at least 12 -- mikeruss mikeruss's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9023 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41080 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Output Stage Questions
Have not tried LME49710 but it does appear a suitable cross. Would be worth a shot. -- seanadams seanadams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41065 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Just about had heart failure.
mikeruss;249209 Wrote: Just check and the cables are OK - so not too sure. But thety do sound ok if they are appart... at least 12 That would fit with the woofs being OOP...use a 1.5v battery across the speaker terminals (disconnet the cables first!) and see which way the cone moves on each speaker... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... ...SB3+TACT+Altmann+MF DACXV3/Linn tri-amped Aktiv 5.1 system and some very expensive cables ;o) Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41080 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Output Stage Questions
apparently they are too slow at ±20V/#956;s... :o) http://www.audioasylum.com/audio/tweaks/messages/15/150114.html :o) The fact that the music has already been slowed down way more than that doesn't seem to bother people! -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... ...SB3+TACT+Altmann+MF DACXV3/Linn tri-amped Aktiv 5.1 system and some very expensive cables ;o) Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41065 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Output Stage Questions
seanadams;249210 Wrote: Have not tried LME49710 but it does appear a suitable cross. Would be worth a shot. Thanks, seems like i have to order some :) -- Wombat Transporter - Avantgarde based monoblocks - self-made speakers Wombat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4113 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41065 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Output Stage Questions
Wombat;249215 Wrote: Thanks, seems like i have to order some :) Perhaps you should look at these too.. LM4562 -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... ...SB3+TACT+Altmann+MF DACXV3/Linn tri-amped Aktiv 5.1 system and some very expensive cables ;o) Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41065 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Output Stage Questions
Phil Leigh;249216 Wrote: Perhaps you should look at these too.. LM4562 ? it is the older dual version of the 49710. Can´t use it as drop in. -- Wombat Transporter - Avantgarde based monoblocks - self-made speakers Wombat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4113 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41065 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Output Stage Questions
Phil Leigh;249214 Wrote: apparently they are too slow at ±20V/#956;s... http://www.audioasylum.com/audio/tweaks/messages/15/150114.html Hey some people _want_ their audio signals to contain material at a few Mhz. To each his own. -- seanadams seanadams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41065 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Output Stage Questions
Wombat;249217 Wrote: ? it is the older dual version of the 49710. Can´t use it as drop in. oops - sorry you are correct. I thought you wanted a dual, but you don't -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... ...SB3+TACT+Altmann+MF DACXV3/Linn tri-amped Aktiv 5.1 system and some very expensive cables ;o) Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41065 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Just about had heart failure.
Phil Leigh wrote: mikeruss;249209 Wrote: Just check and the cables are OK - so not too sure. But thety do sound ok if they are appart... at least 12 That would fit with the woofs being OOP...use a 1.5v battery across the speaker terminals (disconnet the cables first!) and see which way the cone moves on each speaker... Alternatively, just reverse the wires on *one* speaker only. If they were out of phase, reversing one speaker will fix it. R. ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Output Stage Questions
seanadams;249220 Wrote: Hey some people _want_ their audio signals to contain material at a few Mhz. To each his own. Yep - apparently some bats are into this stuff. The fact that the music has generally speaking already passed through hordes of 5532's or 5534's on its way to the CD always amuses me! -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... ...SB3+TACT+Altmann+MF DACXV3/Linn tri-amped Aktiv 5.1 system and some very expensive cables ;o) Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41065 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Just about had heart failure.
Robin Bowes;249223 Wrote: Phil Leigh wrote: mikeruss;249209 Wrote: Just check and the cables are OK - so not too sure. But thety do sound ok if they are appart... at least 12 That would fit with the woofs being OOP...use a 1.5v battery across the speaker terminals (disconnet the cables first!) and see which way the cone moves on each speaker... Alternatively, just reverse the wires on *one* speaker only. If they were out of phase, reversing one speaker will fix it. R. Erm..yeah good point! The thing about the battery test is that it is definitive - but doesn't work well on tweeters. OOP speakers can sound wierd and unpredictable depending on where the are in relation to each other and the room -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... ...SB3+TACT+Altmann+MF DACXV3/Linn tri-amped Aktiv 5.1 system and some very expensive cables ;o) Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41080 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] FLAC decode - server or SB?
I have to admit to being very curious as to why there is a difference in the sound - anyone want to hazard a theory? -- bigfool1956 David Ayers Music is what counts, hifi just helps us enjoy it more bigfool1956's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13782 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39867 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] FLAC decode - server or SB?
bigfool1956;249230 Wrote: I have to admit to being very curious as to why there is a difference in the sound - anyone want to hazard a theory? Are you using an external DAC or the inbuilt one? -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... ...SB3+TACT+Altmann+MF DACXV3/Linn tri-amped Aktiv 5.1 system and some very expensive cables ;o) Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39867 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] FLAC decode - server or SB?
Tried server-side decoding to WAV, TP sound went to pieces. Native decoding all the way! The TP sound is now excellent, after having upgraded to FW33 from the SqueezeCentre and gone to wired Ethernet and switched the wi-fi off. -- amcluesent amcluesent's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10286 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39867 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] FLAC decode - server or SB?
I've done a DBT of streaming flac vs. WAV with an external DAC and there is NO difference whatsoever. Can't comment on the internal DAC. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... ...SB3+TACT+Altmann+MF DACXV3/Linn tri-amped Aktiv 5.1 system and some very expensive cables ;o) Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39867 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] FLAC decode - server or SB?
amcluesent;249232 Wrote: Tried server-side decoding to WAV, TP sound went to pieces. Native decoding all the way! The TP sound is now excellent, after having upgraded to FW33 from the SqueezeCentre and gone to wired Ethernet and switched the wi-fi off. By went to pieces you mean it would stop playing, aka drop-out? -- SuperQ SuperQ's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2139 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39867 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] FLAC decode - server or SB?
In my case I'm talking about using the TP with it's internal DAC. I should say I did try it with my (fairly expensive) Trichord DAC and I preferred the sound in my system with the internal DAC. -- bigfool1956 David Ayers Music is what counts, hifi just helps us enjoy it more bigfool1956's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13782 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39867 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] FLAC decode - server or SB?
bigfool1956;249237 Wrote: In my case I'm talking about using the TP with it's internal DAC. I should say I did try it with my (fairly expensive) Trichord DAC and I preferred the sound in my system with the internal DAC. Sorry - I didn't realise you were talking about the TP. I was commenting on the SB3 so ignore my remarks. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... ...SB3+TACT+Altmann+MF DACXV3/Linn tri-amped Aktiv 5.1 system and some very expensive cables ;o) Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39867 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] FLAC decode - server or SB?
By went to pieces you mean it would stop playing... No, I meant that all the emotion was drained from the music -- amcluesent amcluesent's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10286 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39867 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Looking for a small balanced mono amplifier...
as you can see from my signature, i'm a big fan of the emotiva bpa-1. -- ratso THE ULTIMATE 2 CH. BUDGET SYSTEM? Emotiva BPA-1 monoblocks x4, Bolder analog mod SB3, Channel Islands : VDC-SB squeezebox power supply, VAC-1 power supply, VHP-2 headphone amp (as preamp), VPC-3 passive controller, Gallo ref. 3.1's, APC H-10 power conditioner, Almarro A205A MK II, cables by Blue Jeans ***APPROX. $6500.00!!!*** ratso's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11493 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40791 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] problem with Transporter
tomjtx;248737 Wrote: Maybe my Transporter needs some new strings or something. Sounds to me like your microwave oven is interfering with the TP's ability to exploit string duality. . -- haunyack haunyack's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9721 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41026 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] crackles and pops between tracks
Mickey Gee, I have sent the track to you via email. 1. I have attached the file I mentioned in the thread. 2. SlimServer - SlimServer Version: 6.5.5 - 15021 - Windows XP - EN - cp1252 Server IP address: 192.168.1.6 Perl Version: 5.8.8 MSWin32-x86-multi-thread MySQL Version: 5.0.22-community-nt 3. Squeezebox 3 via analogue outputs to NAD C740 Receiver Disc input then Klipschorn loudspeakers. The noise occurs when the track is played in a playlist by itself and repeat is on, i.e. it loops. The noise occurs (on my system) immediately before the repeat starts. The sequence is song plays, silence for a few seconds, click, song plays etc. 4. I loaded SlimServer 7 on another PC and the click happens in the same circumstances. 5. The track was ripped using iTunes v7.0.1.8 to Apple Lossless. 6. MusicIP has archived its analysis in the file. 7. When played in iTunes or MusicIP in a playlist by itself there is no click. As a retired computer veteran (I started coding in IBM Assembler in the sixties) I am aware of the vast number of variables in the SlimServer chain and was reluctant to file a bug until I could get someone else to confirm the problem. -- Wirrunna A camel is a racehorse designed by a committee. Wirrunna's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3225 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40131 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] problem with Transporter
haunyack;249266 Wrote: Sounds to me like your microwave oven is interfering with the TP's ability to exploit string duality, or perhaps you could add a de-humidifier in order to emolliate possible tachyon condensation. . I think you hit the nail on the head, I'll give that a try :-) -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41026 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] problem with Transporter
haunyack;249266 Wrote: Sounds to me like your microwave oven is interfering with the TP's ability to exploit string duality, or perhaps you could add a de-humidifier in order to emolliate possible tachyon condensation. Pretty good use of the lingo for someone living in Oregon, a state without a single string theorist... -- opaqueice opaqueice's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4234 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41026 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
