Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Toslink vs Coax SB3 vs Reference [bits are bits (+ Jitter)]
Thank you again George - very much - for continuing to conduct and post these interesting tests. :) -- NewBuyer NewBuyer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7862 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79245 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Touch vs. Transporter digital output (again)
mswlogo;551495 Wrote: I know that, but some don't seem to believe it. SB3 is a perfect SPDIF deliverer too (both toslink and SPDIF). CO2 converts perfectly and TASCAM records perfectly. All that is left is jitter. And if your DAC buffers/reclocks that gets rid of all peak to peak jitter. So people must have really bad DACs if they can hear differences between toslink vs coax and this cable or that. I know you know that I know you know ... :-) I wish I could find that thread where Sean attacked a Toslink cable with various tools to try and make it jitter... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78441 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Touch vs. Transporter digital output (again)
mswlogo;551495 Wrote: So people must have really bad DACs if they can hear differences between toslink vs coax and this cable or that. You are talking about the SPDIF receivers, not the dacs, surely ? -- Themis SBT - North Star dac 192 - Croft 25Pre and Series 7 power - Sonus Faber Grand Piano Domus Themis's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14700 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78441 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 2.0 vs 2.1
I have used subs for almost 30 years now, both in a 2.1 configuration and my current 2.2 setup. I have found that the key (for me) is having a electronic crossover and driving the subs with their own amplifier. This allows me to adjust enough from my listening position that I can get the sound integrated smoothly once I get the subs close to correct in their positioning. It makes it a snap to alter the crossover frequency to reduce boom, and match volumes for smoothness of output. As another poster noted earlier, the greatest benefit of sub is taking the load off the primary speakers, allowing them more clarity and dynamic headroom. -- OldCoder OldCoder's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7315 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79054 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Touch vs. Transporter digital output (again)
Themis;551675 Wrote: You are talking about the SPDIF receivers, not the dacs, surely ? Please allow me to respectfully disagree to your above assumption. As you are not talking about jitter anymore, what are you talking about, exactly ? ;) I'm talking about how robust SPDIF communication is. And if you have a Good DAC (that buffers/reclocks - many do) it doesn't matter what you use for an SPDIF cable (TosLink or Coax). -- mswlogo XP Cat5 Transporter/DuetController SPDIF Meridian G68 DSP6000, DSP5500HC, DSP5000 XP Cat5 SB3 SPDIF Meridian DSP5000 XP Cat5 DuetReceiver SPDIF Meridian G91 DSP5000 'My Transporter Setup' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=350741postcount=45) 'Hitch Hikers Guide to Meridian' (http://www.meridianunplugged.com) mswlogo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9090 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78441 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Touch vs. Transporter digital output (again)
Themis;551675 Wrote: You are talking about the SPDIF receivers, not the dacs, surely ? Please allow me to respectfully disagree to your above assumption. As you are not talking about jitter anymore, what are you talking about, exactly ? ;) Better yet. Why don't you read the actualy thread I explained myself in rather than read it here out of context. http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79245 I replied to this thread with a LINK to that because someone asked if I had posted information about some testing further up in this thread. -- mswlogo XP Cat5 Transporter/DuetController SPDIF Meridian G68 DSP6000, DSP5500HC, DSP5000 XP Cat5 SB3 SPDIF Meridian DSP5000 XP Cat5 DuetReceiver SPDIF Meridian G91 DSP5000 'My Transporter Setup' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=350741postcount=45) 'Hitch Hikers Guide to Meridian' (http://www.meridianunplugged.com) mswlogo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9090 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78441 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 2.0 vs 2.1
OldCoder;551723 Wrote: I have used subs for almost 30 years now, both in a 2.1 configuration and my current 2.2 setup. I have found that the key (for me) is having a electronic crossover and driving the subs with their own amplifier. This allows me to adjust enough from my listening position that I can get the sound integrated smoothly once I get the subs close to correct in their positioning. It makes it a snap to alter the crossover frequency to reduce boom, and match volumes for smoothness of output. As another poster noted earlier, the greatest benefit of sub is taking the load off the primary speakers, allowing them more clarity and dynamic headroom. I have gone this route for about 10 years and did noticed the improvement you said but upon going back to plain 2 channel due to wife insistence on ridding those tube subs, I found that I lost the depth but gained back the clarity and focus of the music, somehow, all those x-over electronics added some mud to the sound...I can see the benefits of such system when you want extremely high volume playback level because it's more efficient. -- empty99 empty99's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3488 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79054 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
