Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] I need a little bit tone control . . .

2011-08-07 Thread Bert003

I installed the EQ plugin (only) but I can't get it to work on my
Touch.

Installed Silverlight, installed the modified plugin.pm restarted the
server (v7.6) few times...
Everything looks good, I can see and control the equalizer store a
preset etc. but the audio doesn't change.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Squeezebox Touch Mod

2011-08-07 Thread RadioClash

alec_cat;647671 Wrote: 
 
 As an aside, and this is very hard to be objective about, but I think
 I'm doing pretty nice in my system with chrt -f -p 44 367 for the spdif
 priority - a nice balance of clarity with smoothness - a tad less etched
 than 59. I wonder if anyone could give that a try and their impressions?

Doing some testing the last few evenings and have found that in my
system an spdif value of 48 gives me a great balance.  The step up to
50 is a bit too bright, and anything below 48 becomes a bit too soft. 


Most of my testing is done through Sennheiser HD800 headphones.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Teddy Pardo Touch PSU

2011-08-07 Thread Tom186

John,

thank you much for your well-informed response. So what I take home is
that I probably have to try in order to have an answer in my particular
kind of setup ... or forget about improving the whole thing and start
investing into new music files instead ;)

Have a good Sunday, Thomas


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] I need a little bit tone control . . .

2011-08-07 Thread frank_from_hh

Just to test functionality of the plugin you could try some REALLY
extreme changes. Fiddling a few dBs around here and there has only a
pretty subtle effect which can easily be overheard.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] I need a little bit tone control . . .

2011-08-07 Thread Wirrunna

It can take 30 seconds or so before the effect kicks in. The Task
Manager should show that InguzDSP.exe is running and taking a few
percent of cpu.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Touch: Upsampling with sox?

2011-08-07 Thread kef2m

Hello, this is my first post, so please be kind.

In order to upsample Wav files to 48000 Hz PCM, the following file was
patched:
/Library/PreferencePanes/Squeezebox.prefPane/Contents/server/Slim/Player/Squeezebox.pm
This is on a Mac, but I assume finding this file on Windows should not
be too difficult.

The patch consists of adding two lines of code:
- one line to increase the bit depth from 16 to 24 bit
- the second to change/force the output rate to 48000 Hz

Here is the changed code:

sub stream_s {
# snip
if ($format eq 'pcm') { # unfortunately required for .wav files
# snip
if ( $track ) {
$pcmsamplesize = $client-pcm_sample_sizes($track);
$pcmsamplerate = $client-pcm_sample_rates($track);
$pcmchannels   = $track-channels() || '2';
}

# Add two lines of code
$pcmsamplesize   = 2;   # 1;1-16 bits, 2-24 bits, patch
$pcmsamplerate   = 4;   # 3;3-44100, 4-48000 10-88200, 
9-96000,
patch
# Upsample patch completed


The entry in the convert.conf file is:
wav pcm * *
# F
[sox_14_2] -q --buffer 32768  -t wav -r44100 -2 -c2 $FILE$ -t raw -C0
-3 -c2 -r48000 - polyphase -cutoff 1.0

Do add the line # F, for else no filename is passed to Sox, so nothing
can be upsampled.

Note:
Sox Version 14.2 is used to upsample, as this has the polyphase
option.
To use this, copy the version 14.2 Sox.exe file to:
/Library/PreferencePanes/Squeezebox.prefPane/Contents/server/Bin/darwin/
To distinguish this file from the distributed Sox.exe, the file is
renamed to sox_14_2.

I hope this does not look too complicated, and that it is of interest
for some people.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Touch: Upsampling with sox?

2011-08-07 Thread Wombat

kef2m;647807 Wrote: 
 
 In order to upsample Wav files to 48000 Hz PCM, the following file was 
I don´t know why anyone wants to upsample from 44.1kHz to 48kHz. You
won´t improve anything here. 
The same goes for this polyphase attempt. The sox developers simply
dropped it because it is less precise as the newer modes, no magic.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Squeezebox Touch Mod

2011-08-07 Thread ezzy

Hi guys,
I try to edit rcS file, according to member dynaudiorules. 
After I done the procedure, touch hangs and stuck in Logitech logo.
Before this, Touch was costumized with soundcheck's recommendations.
This is what I have done: 
# Start wlan
#/etc/init.d/wlan start 
-after this I disable Samba
# Start Samba
#if [ -x /etc/init.d/samba ]; then  
#/etc/init.d/samba start 
#fi
-copy this lines to the end of file
#Change priorities  Add these five lines at the bottom
chrt -f -p 93 11
chrt -f -p 91 5
chrt -f -p 59 367
chrt -f -p 87 407 
- save it
- CTRL-T and reboot. From this momment on, the Touch won't boot up.
Do you have any recommendation, how to troubleshoot it.

than you.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Touch: Upsampling with sox?

2011-08-07 Thread kef2m

I understand your comment.
The reason to upsample to 48kHz is that for me, the Meridian 568.1
better upsamples 48kHz material than 44.1kHz material. The 568.1 and
the digital speakers (DSP33) are 96kHz/24 bit capable. I have not done
any serious listening to upsample straight to 96kHz in Sox.
Just my opinion.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Squeezebox Touch Mod

2011-08-07 Thread RotelMan

RadioClash;647784 Wrote: 
 Doing some testing the last few evenings and have found that in my
 system an spdif value of 48 gives me a great balance.  The step up to
 50 is a bit too bright, and anything below 48 becomes a bit too soft. 
 
 
 Most of my testing is done through Sennheiser HD800 headphones.

Thanks... 48 is also working very nice in my system... tried 59/53 but
48 is better with my AudioVector Speakers that can be a bit bright
sounding ;-)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Touch: Upsampling with sox?

2011-08-07 Thread michael123

kef2m;647825 Wrote: 
 I understand your comment.
 The reason to upsample to 48kHz is that for me, the Meridian 568.1
 better upsamples 48kHz material than 44.1kHz material. The 568.1 and
 the digital speakers (DSP33) are 96kHz/24 bit capable. I have not done
 any serious listening to upsample straight to 96kHz in Sox.
 Just my opinion.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Touch: Upsampling with sox?

2011-08-07 Thread Wombat

kef2m;647825 Wrote: 
 I understand your comment.
 The reason to upsample to 48kHz is that for me, the Meridian 568.1
 better upsamples 48kHz material than 44.1kHz material. The 568.1 and
 the digital speakers (DSP33) are 96kHz/24 bit capable. I have not done
 any serious listening to upsample straight to 96kHz in Sox.
 Just my opinion.
I don´t know anything about the upsampling in the Meridian but if 44.1
upsampled withg sox to 48kHz and upsampled to 96 in the Meridian in 2
steps is better as the Meridian does in 1 step there must be something
pretty wrong.

Can you give me a link that shows the problems the Meridian has? I am
just curious.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Touch: Upsampling with sox?

2011-08-07 Thread kef2m

The music from the digital radio sounds 'warmer' than the cd's played
back from the budget cd-player connected to the Meridian 568.1. Also,
for 48 kHz material, the HS Out setting on the 568.1 makes an audible
difference. For 44.1 kHz material I am unable to hear such a
difference. This is my main reason to want to go to 48 kHz.
I do not have a link, this is my personal opinion.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Touch: Upsampling with sox?

2011-08-07 Thread Wombat

kef2m;647841 Wrote: 
 I do not have a link, this is my personal opinion.

Ok then.

I just looked up the DSP33 from Meridian. Seems like they have a
Delta-Sigma DAC build in. Did you try to feed them directly?
One thing about these DSP33 is that it seems the aluminium tweeter
can´t reprroduce much if anything above 20kHz. So i wonder how this
plays a role also.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Squeezebox Touch Mod

2011-08-07 Thread Jeff Flowerday

I settled on 53, 59 was a little harsh through my NHT Classic 4s.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] I need a little bit tone control . . .

2011-08-07 Thread Bert003

Ok, I have found out why it didn't work. I tried it with a MP3 album.
With Flac files I see InguzDSP.exe in the taskmanager, but with MP3's
not.

But it really works very nice. How much 2dB can do!
What do I have to do for MP3's to get it work?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Squeezebox Touch Mod

2011-08-07 Thread dynaudiorules

Jeff Flowerday;647845 Wrote: 
 I settled on 53, 59 was a little harsh through my NHT Classic 4s.
 
 Ps) Thanks for posting this great mod.
 
 
 Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk

I agree, 53 does sound nice...increases the openness and reduces the
hardness a bit, but still very clear.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Squeezebox Touch Mod

2011-08-07 Thread alec_cat

ezzy, try a factory reset 
http://logitech-en-amr.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/16372/~/resetting-squeezebox-touch-to-factory-defaults


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] I need a little bit tone control . . .

2011-08-07 Thread Wirrunna

Bert003;647871 Wrote: 
 Ok, I have found out why it didn't work. I tried it with a MP3 album.
 With Flac files I see InguzDSP.exe in the taskmanager, but with MP3's
 not.
 
 But it really works very nice. How much 2dB can do!
 What do I have to do for MP3's to get it work?
 
 /edit
 I copied lame.exe to the same dir and now it wordks for mp3's too.
 
 Should I keep the whole curve below 0dB? So instead of increasing
 +2.4dB@150 Hz, decrease everything else to -2.4dB?

Well done.
http://inguzaudio.com/usage/ discusses using EQ.
As far as increase/decrease everything, do you have to match the level
with another source ? If not, then leave it as an increase and check
the log file after a day of playing and adjust if necessary.


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