Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] HIGHRESAUDIO to stop offering MQA
Cor, using intellect without spite? Bring it on! -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107118 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] HIGHRESAUDIO to stop offering MQA
ralphpnj wrote: > Correction: > > In America in the year 2017 all science is now pseudo-science and one is > free to believe the science or not, depending on how the science may > effect one's bottom line. One of the wonderfull things about scientific results is that they are true even if you dont like them or believe in them . Heck even if no one believes in them or likes them :) Hence in the past before our brave new post-truth world leaders did carefully evaluate thier advisors words in matters they did not them-self grasped and accepted advice that was even against their belief system . The fact that folks in the most climate influencing country in the world denies the climate disaster is just psychology ? Living in denial is the word . If a truth has little value to you its easier to accept . If its emotionally disturbing and/or have greate impact on your lifestyle its a harder pill to swallow... Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad1 with iPengHD & SqueezePad (spares Touch, SB3, reciever ,controller ) server HP proliant micro server N36L with ClearOS Linux http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107118 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] HIGHRESAUDIO to stop offering MQA
Julf wrote: > And even for bit depth and sample rates, it becomes a simplistic > pseudo-science application of numbers based on "bigger is better". Correction: In America in the year 2017 all science is now pseudo-science and one is free to believe the science or not, depending on how the science may effect one's bottom line. Living Rm: Transporter-SimAudio pre/power amps-Vandersteen 3A Sign. & sub Home Theater: Touch-Marantz HTR-Energy Veritas 2.1 & Linn sub Computer Rm: Touch-Headroom Desktop w/DAC-Aragon amp-Energy Veritas 2.1 & Energy sub Bedroom: Touch-HR Desktop w/DAC-Audio Refinement amp-Energy Veritas 2.0 Guest Rm: Duet-Sony soundbar Garage: SB3-JVC compact system Controls: iPeng; SB Controller; Moose & Muso Server: LMS 7.9 on dedicated windows 10 computer w/2 Drobos 'Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/jazzfann/) ralphpnj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10827 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107118 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] HIGHRESAUDIO to stop offering MQA
Oh, and just after I posted that I saw the World Health Organization warning about measles making a comeback in the western world due to people not vaccinating their children... "To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt edge that will fool many people" - Paul W Klipsch, 1953 Julf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42050 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107118 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] HIGHRESAUDIO to stop offering MQA
ralphpnj wrote: > for audiophiles this means one can believe in measurements when it comes > to bit depth and sample rates (as in digital audio) but not when to > comes to harmonic distortion (as in tubes versus solid state). And even for bit depth and sample rates, it becomes a simplistic pseudo-science application of numbers based on "bigger is better". "To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt edge that will fool many people" - Paul W Klipsch, 1953 Julf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42050 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107118 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] HIGHRESAUDIO to stop offering MQA
Archimago wrote: > Let's try to change that Ralph! Promote another "option", "path", > "school" to follow in the public Forums and Marketplaces... > > Men (usually) of distinction willing to submit to reason, objectivity, > and scientific techniques like ABX and blind testing to adjudicate > hardware fidelity. Able to use intellect to debate without spite. Able > to acknowledge opinion from fact. Willing to call out falsehoods in the > media and from Industry claims. Yet acknowledge the subjectivity of > esthetics whether it be in the music we enjoy, the creature comforts of > the hardware, the appearance of milled fasciae, and all sorts of other > "non-utilitarian" functions of the sound system in our homes and in our > possession because we can accept ultimately the joy of satisfaction in > whichever way this hobby achieves for each individual. > > This "path" has always been there all along of course despite the > "mainstream" subjective-based ridicule, ignorance, and heavy-handed > "banning" of such viewpoints. Times are changing for better or worse > (probably both). And I think in audiophileland, the "rational > audiophile" can significantly impact the hobby for the good. The > Internet is the tool for affecting the masses. > > I believe the path of the "subjectivist audiophile" is weak, ignorant, > and clearly rests on an unstable foundation based on nothing but -faith- > in false or grossly intellectually compromised idols and idiosyncratic > "high priests". > > That's my rallying cry for the "rational audiophile". > > :-) Nice missive however you seem to have forgotten that the anti-science political party here in the US now has complete control of the government and by extension the mood of the country and the people. So basically science is now like religion and one has the option of choosing whether or not to believe in science. Even worse is that one can even choose to believe in certain parts of science while rejecting other parts. So for audiophiles this means one can believe in measurements when it comes to bit depth and sample rates (as in digital audio) but not when to comes to harmonic distortion (as in tubes versus solid state). Living Rm: Transporter-SimAudio pre/power amps-Vandersteen 3A Sign. & sub Home Theater: Touch-Marantz HTR-Energy Veritas 2.1 & Linn sub Computer Rm: Touch-Headroom Desktop w/DAC-Aragon amp-Energy Veritas 2.1 & Energy sub Bedroom: Touch-HR Desktop w/DAC-Audio Refinement amp-Energy Veritas 2.0 Guest Rm: Duet-Sony soundbar Garage: SB3-JVC compact system Controls: iPeng; SB Controller; Moose & Muso Server: LMS 7.9 on dedicated windows 10 computer w/2 Drobos 'Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/jazzfann/) ralphpnj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10827 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107118 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] HIGHRESAUDIO to stop offering MQA
Archimago wrote: > I believe the path of the "subjectivist audiophile" is weak, ignorant, > and clearly rests on an unstable foundation based on nothing but -faith- > in false or grossly intellectually compromised idols and idiosyncratic > "high priests" I agree. Unfortunately that is a very popular path these days (not just in audio matters). Anti-intellectualism is doing all too well. "To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt edge that will fool many people" - Paul W Klipsch, 1953 Julf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42050 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107118 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] HIGHRESAUDIO to stop offering MQA
ralphpnj wrote: > Ranks right up there with some other oxymorons like "military > intelligence" and "elevated subway" Let's try to change that Ralph! Promote another "option", "path", "school" to follow in the public Forums and Marketplaces... Men (usually) of distinction willing to submit to reason, objectivity, and scientific techniques like ABX and blind testing to adjudicate hardware fidelity. Able to use intellect to debate without spite. Able to acknowledge opinion from fact. Willing to call out falsehoods in the media and from Industry claims. Yet acknowledge the subjectivity of esthetics whether it be in the music we enjoy, the creature comforts of the hardware, the appearance of milled fasciae, and all sorts of other "non-utilitarian" functions of the sound system in our homes and in our possession because we can accept ultimately the joy of satisfaction in whichever way this hobby achieves for each individual. This "path" has always been there all along of course despite the "mainstream" subjective-based ridicule, ignorance, and heavy-handed "banning" of such viewpoints. Times are changing for better or worse (probably both). And I think in audiophileland, the "rational audiophile" can significantly impact the hobby for the good. The Internet is the tool for affecting the masses. I believe the path of the "subjectivist audiophile" is weak, ignorant, and clearly rests on an unstable foundation based on nothing but -faith- in false or grossly intellectually compromised idols and idiosyncratic "high priests". That's my rallying cry for the "rational audiophile". :-) Archimago's Musings: (archimago.blogspot.com) A 'more objective' audiophile blog. Archimago's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2207 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107118 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
