Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best sound possible
hshrader;263789 Wrote: If the PC (specifically the XP K-mixer DLL) is not forced to do sample-rate conversion, it can maintain bit-transparent operations. This implies that if it does sample rate-conversion you dont get bit-transparent operations. You can use external converters or up/down samplers (e.g. Inguz plug-in, APE decoder, flac, sox, etc) with SlimServer if you want. Check Settings - Advanced - File Types. (What is Windows equivalent of convert.conf, BTW?) But unless specifically tweaked or asked no Windows audio libs are used. -- alekz alekz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13574 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42867 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best sound possible
hshrader;263878 Wrote: I need no beating. Thanks for unequivocal clarification. Hans LOL :) Welcome to the forum Hans. I've not been around here too much recently, but it seems in my absence some initiation rites have been set up! I thought that kind of thing was restricted to the Audio Circle :) -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others SB+, EAR V20, Living Voice OBX-R2s plus some other stuff SB3, Charlize, Harbeth HL-P3ES adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42867 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best sound possible
offtopic adamslim;263918 Wrote: I thought that kind of thing was restricted to the Audio Circle :) Actually, AC is a much friendlier forum ;-) /offtopic -- alekz alekz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13574 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42867 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best sound possible
Given recent discussions in Absolute Sound regarding audio signals generated from a Hard Drive, I am wondering if the Squeezebox is producing the best sound possible when installed as recommended. Effectively, I have my music files on my hard drive which are managed by Slim Server software. This software communicates with and sends the files over the home wireless network to the Squeezebox that forwards it to a DAC for analogue conversation. Is this the best I can do? It seems that there is some concern to get the best sound quality possible, one needs to manage/configure/bypass Windows kernel mixer, If the music server can only be used with standard system drivers (XP k-mixer), then the sound quality will be limited to mid-fi [at best. (Absolute Sound) A Stereophile article says: If the PC (specifically the XP K-mixer DLL) is not forced to do sample-rate conversion, it can maintain bit-transparent operations. This implies that if it does sample rate-conversion you dont get bit-transparent operations. Am I taking this information out of context to my application of PC server based music. Has anyone any views or experience with these issues as they relate to Squeezebox? Many thanks, Hans -- hshrader hshrader's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42867 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best sound possible
hshrader;263789 Wrote: Has anyone any views or experience with these issues as they relate to Squeezebox? Yeah I have. Are those two quote from articles discussing the SlimServer and a SqueezeBox or Transporter? If they are, then that don't have a clue what they are speaking about. If it was me, I wouldn't bother reading them in the future. -- funkstar funkstar's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42867 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best sound possible
hshrader;263789 Wrote: Am I taking this information out of context to my application of PC server based music. Yes, you are. With the Squeezebox the server's audio system isn't involved in any way. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42867 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best sound possible
Thank you JJZolx. Funkstar: the articles are related to PC based music servers but not specifically squeezebox products. As it was, the TAS article (Dec 07 i think) talked about managing output from your PC without use of thirdparty products like a squeezebox (PC to DAC to Speakers). In essence very interesting to someone managing their music using a PC. Nonetheless, it is unclear to me how that article relates, if at all, to squeezebox applications. JJZolx says it does not. Other views that will support JJZolx and Funkstar's views or perhaps there is dissent? -- hshrader hshrader's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42867 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best sound possible
hshrader;263808 Wrote: Thank you JJZolx. Funkstar: the articles are related to PC based music servers but not specifically squeezebox products. As it was, the TAS article (Dec 07 i think) talked about managing output from your PC without use of thirdparty products like a squeezebox (PC to DAC to Speakers). In essence very interesting to someone managing their music using a PC. Nonetheless, it is unclear to me how that article relates, if at all, to squeezebox applications. JJZolx says it does not. Other views that will support JJZolx and Funkstar's views or perhaps there is dissent? SlimDevices products do not rely on managing [audio] output from a PC. The article does not apply here. -- twylie Thecus N5200 - transporter - Krell KRC2 - nuforce 8b - Sonus Faber Concertos / Audio Physic Sparks twylie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=956 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42867 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best sound possible
Just to reinforce what's being said here, the audio data is being transmitted to the SB/TP as a computer file. The SB does the decoding. It's the same process as file transfers within a computer network. The OS's audio system isn't involved in the slightest - the data is treated as data, not audio, and it's out of the picture. -- Mark Lanctot Ben Klass: I won't even eat a pre-7.0 meal. Well, unless it involves bacon. Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42867 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best sound possible
There is really no need to belabor this. The SB or Transporter receives network packets from the SlimServer that make up the music file (FLAC, MP3, WAV, or other natively suppported format). The SB or Transporter plays the file. The server has to get the data there, but it has nothing to do with the quality of the music. -- jeffmeh jeffmeh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3986 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42867 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best sound possible
hshrader;263808 Wrote: ... Other views that will support JJZolx and Funkstar's views or perhaps there is dissent?... Hi, unlike the 'audiophilia', this isn't a matter of 'believe' or 'view' or 'opinion'. Rather it's about cold technical facts. SB concept doesn't include PC sound devices at any point. K -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42867 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best sound possible
If the OP isn't convinced by now we should take him out to the street for a beating :-) -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42867 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best sound possible
opaqueice;263848 Wrote: Does it matter if he's convinced? It's been a while since we had a good public beating! Yeh. where is harmonic when you need him? -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42867 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best sound possible
hshrader;263808 Wrote: Other views that will support JJZolx and Funkstar's views or perhaps there is dissent? If you were to download a CD from the internet, would you worry about the sound card in the server you downloaded the file from? If not, then don't worry about the one in the PC that's sending music to the squeezebox. -- opaqueice opaqueice's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4234 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42867 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best sound possible
tomjtx;263845 Wrote: If the OP isn't convinced by now we should take him out to the street for a beating :-) Does it matter if he's convinced? It's been a while since we had a good public beating! -- opaqueice opaqueice's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4234 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42867 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best sound possible
tomjtx;263849 Wrote: Yeh. where is harmonic when you need him? Maybe instead we could pick on the guy in the other thread? He's a caad, after all... -- opaqueice opaqueice's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4234 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42867 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best sound possible
I need no beating. Thanks for unequivocal clarification. Hans -- hshrader hshrader's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42867 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
