Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] For Sale: Transport fully modded Modwright Platinum Signature
It was listed almost two years ago, so I'm sure it's long gone. Fizbin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58734 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104936 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] For Sale: Transport fully modded Modwright Platinum Signature
funny, i came here wondering whether it was still for sale. if so, i'm definitely interested. i have two "standard" transporters, and have recently purchased a tube integrated (that has a lovely 274B rectifier). in any case, if you're still here, and it's still available, send me a note. -- 4 TB Drobo-->FW 800-->mac mini-->Ethernet Transporter--> Wireworld Eclipse 6 coax-->Meridian G61 G61--> Nordost Red Dawn-->Primare 30.3 Primare-->Ocos--Vienna Acoustics Beethoven/Maestro netchord's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21002 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104936 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] For Sale: Transport fully modded Modwright Platinum Signature
While I am complete agreement about there being no need to add tubes to the Transporter, I nonetheless respect the OP's right to post the For Sale ad here in the Audiophile section. There is no need to call out how adding tubes does not improve the sound, that's between the buyer and seller and if one is not going to buy the unit then just walk away quietly. The questions a perspective buyer should be asking are those pertaining to wear and tear, shipping methods and cost, etc. Whatever one feels about use of tubes should not be part of this discussion. I look at this types of discussions as very similar to discussions about music. I like free jazz and dislike heavy metal rock and since I hate it when someone leave a post on thread about free jazz saying "This music sounds like crap", I refrain from post the same on a thread heavy metal rock. I realize that this may sound strange coming from me, the number one abuser of all those high end audio gurus who write and edit the gloss audio magazines, but every private individual is entitled to their beliefs, no matter how mistaken one may feel they are, whereas on the other hand the self appointed audio gurus who spread FUD for the sake of money are fair game. Living Rm: Transporter-SimAudio pre/power amps-Vandersteen 3A Sign. & sub Home Theater: Touch-Marantz HTR-Energy Veritas 2.1 & Linn sub Computer Rm: Touch-Headroom Desktop w/DAC-Aragon amp-Energy Veritas 2.1 & Energy sub Bedroom: Touch-HR Desktop w/DAC-Audio Refinement amp-Energy Veritas 2.0 Guest Rm: Duet-Sony soundbar Garage: SB3-JVC compact system Controls: iPeng; SB Controller; Moose & Muso Server: SBS on dedicated windows 7 computer w/2 Drobos 'Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/jazzfann/) ralphpnj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10827 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104936 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] For Sale: Transport fully modded Modwright Platinum Signature
darrenyeats wrote: > I can't think of a more apt place than the Logitech Audiophiles forum to > place such an ad, and unless you can, then how about move the discussion > to another thread. I agree it is a very apt place for such an ad, but if I placed an ad here for some gear I was selling, I would also expect a discussion on the properties, good or bad, of said equipment. "To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt edge that will fool many people" - Paul W Klipsch, 1953 Julf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42050 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104936 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] For Sale: Transport fully modded Modwright Platinum Signature
JJZolx wrote: > Thread crapping at its finest. "Thread crapping" seems to be a favourite term among a certain crowd that don't like their faith to be questioned - a mild form of "if you run out of reasonable arguments, at least try to discredit your opponent somehow". "To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt edge that will fool many people" - Paul W Klipsch, 1953 Julf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42050 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104936 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] For Sale: Transport fully modded Modwright Platinum Signature
JJZolx wrote: > Thread crapping at its finest. Matched the quality of the alleged mods, which basically amount to be crapping on the gear. arnyk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=64365 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104936 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] For Sale: Transport fully modded Modwright Platinum Signature
As this is a sales tread . Is the original components retained so that the player can be restored to it's original configuration . that would actually increase prospective customers ? Tubes is not automatically considered "best" even among card carrying audiophiles . Many would actually considered the product "broken" if its to modified . I had a similar problem selling a modified DAC 15 years ago, many second hand byers simply wanted it in it's original form (in hindsight it was not the best idea to modify it ) . The transporter is still a classic . it would still be a collectible if it where original . I have no use for it in any of my current setups (in the main hifi i use digital in/out and in secondary locations its to big ) Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad1 with iPengHD & SqueezePad (spares Touch, SB3, reciever ,controller ) server HP proliant micro server N36L with ClearOS Linux http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104936 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] For Sale: Transport fully modded Modwright Platinum Signature
JJZolx wrote: > This wasn't an audio discussion, you moron -- it was a "For Sale". > > "Thread crapping" is one of the kinder things I could call it. So come up with some reasonable arguments instead of all the name calling? StephenPG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48249 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104936 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] For Sale: Transport fully modded Modwright Platinum Signature
StephenPG wrote: > So come up with some reasonable arguments instead of all the name > calling? What the fuck is wrong you you people?? JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104936 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] For Sale: Transport fully modded Modwright Platinum Signature
JJZolx wrote: > This wasn't an audio discussion, you moron -- it was a "For Sale". Stage 2 of "Audiophile debating 101": "If opponent makes you look stupid, resort to ad hominem and call him/her names". Looking forward to Stage 3, "call to ban trolls". "To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt edge that will fool many people" - Paul W Klipsch, 1953 Julf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42050 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104936 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] For Sale: Transport fully modded Modwright Platinum Signature
Note that no discussion has taken place, despite the trolling from the usual idiots. JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104936 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] For Sale: Transport fully modded Modwright Platinum Signature
JJZolx wrote: > Note that no discussion has taken place, despite the trolling from the > usual idiots. We do have to thank you for your meaningful contributions and insights. "To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt edge that will fool many people" - Paul W Klipsch, 1953 Julf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42050 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104936 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] For Sale: Transport fully modded Modwright Platinum Signature
JJZolx wrote: > What the fuck is wrong you you people?? Ah, insults and profanity. Interesting side step. "To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt edge that will fool many people" - Paul W Klipsch, 1953 Julf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42050 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104936 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] For Sale: Transport fully modded Modwright Platinum Signature
JJZolx wrote: > What the fuck is wrong you you people?? Hope this helps. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reason https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument StephenPG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48249 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104936 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] For Sale: Transport fully modded Modwright Platinum Signature
Julf wrote: > "Thread crapping" seems to be a favourite term among a certain crowd > that don't like their faith to be questioned - a mild form of "if you > run out of reasonable arguments, at least try to discredit your opponent > somehow". This wasn't an audio discussion, you moron -- it was a "For Sale". "Thread crapping" is one of the kinder things I could call it. JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104936 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] For Sale: Transport fully modded Modwright Platinum Signature
Julf wrote: > And what actual physical property of the valve rectifier would cause > those effects, and how? Here's a couple of interesting articles about tube rectifiers as used in audio circuits: http://www.soldano.com/amp-help/tube-vs-solid-state-rectifiers/ http://www.guitarplayer.com/amplifiers/1017/whats-the-big-deal-about-tube-rectifiers/23811 Basically, tubes completely suck at being good rectifiers. They cause voltage and current sags. This might be a good thing for a guitar amp, but for a line source it's going to make things sound like shit. But, given the good PSU design of the Transporter, I'm guessing there's enough capacitor to deal with the sags and you won't hear any difference at all. All you're left with is the warmth and glowing of the placebo effect. SuperQ's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2139 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104936 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] For Sale: Transport fully modded Modwright Platinum Signature
Even if you think you're providing a public service, it's very rude to pee on someone's for-sale thread. I can't think of a more apt place than the Logitech Audiophiles forum to place such an ad, and unless you can, then give it a break. Check it, add to it! http://www.dr.loudness-war.info/ SB Touch darrenyeats's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10799 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104936 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] For Sale: Transport fully modded Modwright Platinum Signature
Julf wrote: > Indeed. There is a reason that rectifiers were the first tubes to be > replaced (even in tube amps) as soon as semiconductor rectifiers became > available. > Having been on the scene in that day, the most probable reason was availability and cost. Appropriate low cost semiconductor rectifiers predated the more complex appropriate transistors by quite a few years. Tube rectifiers were supplanted in two steps - first by the fairly limited selenium rectifiers, and then by more capable silicon diodes. > > I agree - that is why I asked what any possible benefits could be based > on. I guess placebo is the only real answer. Agreed. This alleged mod looks a lot like the usual knee-jerk simplistic under-engineered golden ear mod. arnyk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=64365 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104936 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] For Sale: Transport fully modded Modwright Platinum Signature
SuperQ wrote: > Basically, tubes completely suck at being good rectifiers. Indeed. There is a reason that rectifiers were the first tubes to be replaced (even in tube amps) as soon as semiconductor rectifiers became available. > But, given the good PSU design of the Transporter, I'm guessing there's > enough capacitor to deal with the sags and you won't hear any difference > at all. All you're left with is the warmth and glowing of the placebo > effect. I agree - that is why I asked what any possible benefits could be based on. I guess placebo is the only real answer. "To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt edge that will fool many people" - Paul W Klipsch, 1953 Julf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42050 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104936 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] For Sale: Transport fully modded Modwright Platinum Signature
darrenyeats wrote: > Even if you think you're providing a public service, it's very rude to > pee on someone's for-sale thread. I prefer to think of it as a preemptive caveat emptor.;) MichaelJ's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43215 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104936 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] For Sale: Transport fully modded Modwright Platinum Signature
Thread crapping at its finest. JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104936 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] For Sale: Transport fully modded Modwright Platinum Signature
scp2 wrote: > The tube output stage features an internal, tube rectified power supply > based on the technology from ModWright preamplifiers. Just out of curiosity, what benefit is there from using tube rectifiers? "To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt edge that will fool many people" - Paul W Klipsch, 1953 Julf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42050 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104936 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] For Sale: Transport fully modded Modwright Platinum Signature
Asking $1300 I feel the value of this unit far excedes $1300 but as always market conditions prevail. I will entertain all offers. If someone has been on the fence on one of these fine units...this one comes with a nice collection of tubes. This is the latest edition ModWright Transporter with full Signature Platinum Truth upgrades in perfect operational and cosmetic condition. Im the original owner purchased directly from ModWright. I have original packaging as I received form Modwright. I have original TP manual as well as the manual I got from MW. It has been lightly used in a dedicated music room in a clean and non smoking home. The ModWright version is a substantial upgrade adding an oversized toroidal transformer and a complete re-design of the analog stage using two output tubes. The tube output stage features an internal, tube rectified power supply based on the technology from ModWright preamplifiers. RCA and balanced outputs are now sourced from the new analog stage. The balanced outputs utilize custom wound output transformers from Electroprint. The RCA output connectors are upgraded from stock. The output stage produces output levels sufficient to drive most amplifiers directly without a preamp. Audiogon add https://app.audiogon.com/listings/transports-logitech-modwright-transporter-platinum-signature-truth-with-extras-2016-01-01-digital-66216-shawnee-ks I will sell direct with the right buyer scp2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32359 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104936 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] For Sale: Transport fully modded Modwright Platinum Signature
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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] For Sale: Transport fully modded Modwright Platinum Signature
scp2 wrote: > It provides a fuller richer sound. Less fatigue...more like an analog > signal(LP). It doesn't color the soundseems more lifelike. And what actual physical property of the valve rectifier would cause those effects, and how? "To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt edge that will fool many people" - Paul W Klipsch, 1953 Julf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42050 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104936 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] For Sale: Transport fully modded Modwright Platinum Signature
It provides a fuller richer sound. Less fatigue...more like an analog signal(LP). It doesn't color the soundseems more lifelike. Here is an article about the upgrade. http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/modwright3/transporter.html scp2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32359 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104936 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] For Sale: Transport fully modded Modwright Platinum Signature
Boy, you just gotta love the thread crapping. Unbelievable. JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104936 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
