Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Monster cables.

2010-05-24 Thread TiredLegs

snarlydwarf;548794 Wrote: 
 I frequently confuse my car's transmission with my interconnects.
How about Monster cables as spark plug wires?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Monster cables.

2010-05-24 Thread Mnyb

TiredLegs;550246 Wrote: 
 How about Monster cables as spark plug wires?

Do you think the quality of insulation is up to it ;)

They are probably made in prc and the price is jacked some 1000's of %
as the MO is in the audio cable business .

Can these don't ever ever ever use monster cable's treads be kept alive
all over internet, this is one company the world would just be fine
without .
What the monster cable people have done to others ! they don't deserve
other peoples hard earned cash. And they have done so much so nothing
can redeem them anymore they should just be driven to bankruptcy an
then forgotten.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Monster cables.

2010-05-24 Thread iPhone

Mnyb;550249 Wrote: 
 Do you think the quality of insulation is up to it ;)
 
 They are probably made in prc and the price is jacked some 1000's of %
 as the MO is in the audio cable business.
 
 Can these don't ever ever ever use monster cable's treads be kept alive
 all over internet, this is one company the world would just be fine
 without .
 What the monster cable people have done to others ! they don't deserve
 other peoples hard earned cash. And they have done so much so nothing
 can redeem them anymore they should just be driven to bankruptcy an
 then forgotten.

Unfortunately it looks like they have built a brand that people know by
name and more surprising want (they just don't know better). These
unsuspecting customers see the brand in Best Buy, Guitar Center, and
A/V shops and assume they are OK if not great. And its no wonder why
big companies carry it because the markup is so high!

MC actually has the balls to put a warning on their home page to Don't
get ripped off! beware of unauthorized dealers and fakes. The fakes are
the snake oil claims in their ads.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Monster cables.

2010-05-18 Thread TiredLegs

KMorgan;546910 Wrote: 
 Fab
 
 http://www.audioholics.com/news/industry-news/blue-jeans-strikes-back
 
 When did you ever read a lawyer's letter all the way through, and enjoy
 it?!
That letter from Kurt Denke is enough to make me want to buy something
from Blue Jeans Cables, just for his willingness to stick it to the
Monster. What ever happened to Monster's claim against him? My guess is
that he never heard back from them, but anybody know?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Monster cables.

2010-05-18 Thread snarlydwarf

TiredLegs;548772 Wrote: 
 
 By the way, check out the posting here by Patrick Vitagliano, regarding
 the outcome of Monster Cables' suit against his Monster Mini Golf
 company: 
 http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/monster_vs_monster_pits_goliath_cable_maker_against_davidsized_mini_golf_company#comment-19025

So in January 2009 Monster Cable said they were not going to be, well,
Monsters...

Note the date on this article: 
http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/09/monster-cable-learns-nothing-sues-monster-transmission/

So, yeah, Monster Cable stepped up and promised change

Promises that seem to be pretty empty.

I frequently confuse my car's transmission with my interconnects.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Monster cables.

2010-05-12 Thread Squeezed_Rotel

Blue Jeans ready made cables as well as their component parts to make
your own cables are top notch!


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Monster cables.

2010-05-12 Thread garym

I buy cables from these guys.  Probably better quality than Monster and
I think cheaper

http://www.bluejeanscable.com/


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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Monster cables.

2010-05-12 Thread Ikabob

I have exchanged the stock touch RCA cables for some high quality
Monster cables and I think there is an audible improvement in all
aspects. My stereo components consists of a Marantz preamp onto an SAE
amplifier into ESS Heil speakers (older components which I find very
very excellent). So, I just ordered some Monster RCA to 1/4 inch cables
that I intend to replace my original cables from rl preamp to amp
cables. 

Question : Do experts here on the forum think that this will also bring
some positive audible improvements to my stereo listening experience?
I,myself, am not an audiophiles expert but I do appreciate good
quality classical music. I love the Squeezebox system.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Monster cables.

2010-05-12 Thread audiomuze

+1 for Blue Jeans, in fact I've never heard a negative sentiment aimed
in their direction.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Monster cables.

2010-05-12 Thread Ikabob

Aubuti, yes, my college days stereo purchases are still awesome in my
opinion. I have no desire to update anything. The ESS speakers seem
very high quality. I remember A/B ing them with the JBL 100s and I
liked the uniformity between the highs and lows of the ESSes enen
though the JBLs were more popular by many. So, with the Squeezes it
really makes my system symphonic quality and that is one reason I am so
excited about the Squeezebox system.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Monster cables.

2010-05-12 Thread aubuti

+1 for Blue Jeans Cable

They are much cheaper than Monster, and by all accounts I've read as
good or better quality. In addition, Monster has a bad track record on
being overly agressive and anti-competitive. See
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55787

Btw, I still have a pair of ESS Tempest LS8 with Heil AMT from my
college days -- still sound great after all these years.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Monster cables.

2010-05-12 Thread iPhone

Another vote for Blue Jean Cables. All my Balanced Cables are from Blue
Jean Cables.

I have several of their RCA ICs and a pair of Anti Cables ICs. The Anti
Cables are about 3 times the price of the Blue Jeans but still not
outrageous as some cables get.

I have tried many cables over the years having worked at a few high end
audio shops giving me access to cables that I would never even think
about buying due to their unbelievable cost.

It is my opinion that Monster Cables are ALL advertising and hype. And
guess who is paying for all that advertising?

It comes to a point that as long as the cable is properly constructed
and made from proper materials, they all do the same thing with the
rest being snake oil.

The biggest sonic differences I have heard over the years are how
different cables act with specific equipment. What I mean by this is
that interconnects tend to have a signature or speciality. Due to how
frequency affects how a signal travels on wire/strands one cable will
seem to sound different from another due to how they differ in
construction. So the construction can cause a cable to sound bright,
dull, muted, depending on what frequency the cable construction favors.
This can actually help by matching a cables signature to help benefit
how a pre-amp and amp sound together.

My suggestion is borrow as many cables as one can from his local dealer
to see what works best in ones system rather then go by brand or price.
Obviously there is a point at which interconnects are drastically
interfering with the sound/signal due to poor construction and poor
material choices. Above this are cables that are being as neutral as is
possible which I consider proper cables. And above these are the ones
that go so far beyond what anybody can hear and are outrageously
priced.

So in the end, find the cables that sound good for you in your system.
Not what some advertising or salesman say you need or are the ones to
go with. The test at the dealer is to have them do the blind testing
with you switching the cables for them to get the sell. If they will
not go to this length to sell the cables to you, then stay away from
those cables. Also if they agree and can't 'pick' the superior
interconnects 75% or more of the time, again stay away as its all
advertising hype.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Monster cables.

2010-05-12 Thread Phil Leigh

snarlydwarf;546850 Wrote: 
 Blue Jeans will not sue you for wearing blue jeans.
 
 Monster Cable will threaten to sue you for selling automotive
 transmissions.
 
 Monster Cable is a great company to support if you believe our justice
 system is idle and we need to employ more lawyers.

Indeed - never has a company been so aptly named...


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Monster cables.

2010-05-12 Thread Ikabob

Wow. They sure have established a good reputation. 

Thanks for the advice.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Monster cables.

2010-05-12 Thread snarlydwarf

Ikabob;546900 Wrote: 
 Wow. They sure have established a good reputation. 
 
 Thanks for the advice.

Google for 'monster cable sues'.

Sad.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Monster cables.

2010-05-12 Thread KMorgan

Fab

http://www.audioholics.com/news/industry-news/blue-jeans-strikes-back

When did you ever read a lawyer's letter all the way through, and enjoy
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