Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Monster cables.
snarlydwarf;548794 Wrote: I frequently confuse my car's transmission with my interconnects. How about Monster cables as spark plug wires? -- TiredLegs TiredLegs's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6201 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78593 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Monster cables.
TiredLegs;550246 Wrote: How about Monster cables as spark plug wires? Do you think the quality of insulation is up to it ;) They are probably made in prc and the price is jacked some 1000's of % as the MO is in the audio cable business . Can these don't ever ever ever use monster cable's treads be kept alive all over internet, this is one company the world would just be fine without . What the monster cable people have done to others ! they don't deserve other peoples hard earned cash. And they have done so much so nothing can redeem them anymore they should just be driven to bankruptcy an then forgotten. -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J and assorted amps SiriuS, Classe'Primare and Dynadio speakers (including a pair of Contour 4 ) Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Miscellaneous use: Radio (with battery) I use a Controller various ir-remotes and a Eee-PC with squeezeplay to control this Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78593 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Monster cables.
Mnyb;550249 Wrote: Do you think the quality of insulation is up to it ;) They are probably made in prc and the price is jacked some 1000's of % as the MO is in the audio cable business. Can these don't ever ever ever use monster cable's treads be kept alive all over internet, this is one company the world would just be fine without . What the monster cable people have done to others ! they don't deserve other peoples hard earned cash. And they have done so much so nothing can redeem them anymore they should just be driven to bankruptcy an then forgotten. Unfortunately it looks like they have built a brand that people know by name and more surprising want (they just don't know better). These unsuspecting customers see the brand in Best Buy, Guitar Center, and A/V shops and assume they are OK if not great. And its no wonder why big companies carry it because the markup is so high! MC actually has the balls to put a warning on their home page to Don't get ripped off! beware of unauthorized dealers and fakes. The fakes are the snake oil claims in their ads. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1 Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Second Boom Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78593 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Monster cables.
KMorgan;546910 Wrote: Fab http://www.audioholics.com/news/industry-news/blue-jeans-strikes-back When did you ever read a lawyer's letter all the way through, and enjoy it?! That letter from Kurt Denke is enough to make me want to buy something from Blue Jeans Cables, just for his willingness to stick it to the Monster. What ever happened to Monster's claim against him? My guess is that he never heard back from them, but anybody know? -- TiredLegs TiredLegs's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6201 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78593 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Monster cables.
TiredLegs;548772 Wrote: By the way, check out the posting here by Patrick Vitagliano, regarding the outcome of Monster Cables' suit against his Monster Mini Golf company: http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/monster_vs_monster_pits_goliath_cable_maker_against_davidsized_mini_golf_company#comment-19025 So in January 2009 Monster Cable said they were not going to be, well, Monsters... Note the date on this article: http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/09/monster-cable-learns-nothing-sues-monster-transmission/ So, yeah, Monster Cable stepped up and promised change Promises that seem to be pretty empty. I frequently confuse my car's transmission with my interconnects. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78593 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Monster cables.
Blue Jeans ready made cables as well as their component parts to make your own cables are top notch! -- Squeezed_Rotel John M SqueezeCenter 7.3.4 running on a DIY PC, Windows 7 64 bit o.s., with Inguz Audio EQ/DRC. (1) Transporter, (2) Booms connected through a Linksys WRT54gs router and Linksys WAP54g access point. Using an iPod Touch with iPeng for a controller. For Critical Listening =Transporter = Rotel RC1070 preamp = Rotel RB1080 2 channel amp = Bowers Wilkins 805 Speakers. Squeezed_Rotel's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30002 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78593 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Monster cables.
I buy cables from these guys. Probably better quality than Monster and I think cheaper http://www.bluejeanscable.com/ -- garym garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78593 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Monster cables.
I have exchanged the stock touch RCA cables for some high quality Monster cables and I think there is an audible improvement in all aspects. My stereo components consists of a Marantz preamp onto an SAE amplifier into ESS Heil speakers (older components which I find very very excellent). So, I just ordered some Monster RCA to 1/4 inch cables that I intend to replace my original cables from rl preamp to amp cables. Question : Do experts here on the forum think that this will also bring some positive audible improvements to my stereo listening experience? I,myself, am not an audiophiles expert but I do appreciate good quality classical music. I love the Squeezebox system. -- Ikabob Ikabob's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32088 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78593 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Monster cables.
+1 for Blue Jeans, in fact I've never heard a negative sentiment aimed in their direction. -- audiomuze 'Cable break-in is real, and occurs between the ears of the listener - nowhere else (most certainly not in the cable).' (http://sound.westhost.com/cables.htm) Having spent all that money, no-one, and I mean no-one, will be willing to admit that they were defrauded, robbed or deceived. The survival instinct takes over, and we hear exactly what we expect to - whether it exists or not -- Rod Elliott '*last.fm*' (http://www.last.fm/user/audiomuze) audiomuze's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33613 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78593 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Monster cables.
Aubuti, yes, my college days stereo purchases are still awesome in my opinion. I have no desire to update anything. The ESS speakers seem very high quality. I remember A/B ing them with the JBL 100s and I liked the uniformity between the highs and lows of the ESSes enen though the JBLs were more popular by many. So, with the Squeezes it really makes my system symphonic quality and that is one reason I am so excited about the Squeezebox system. -- Ikabob Ikabob's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32088 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78593 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Monster cables.
+1 for Blue Jeans Cable They are much cheaper than Monster, and by all accounts I've read as good or better quality. In addition, Monster has a bad track record on being overly agressive and anti-competitive. See http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55787 Btw, I still have a pair of ESS Tempest LS8 with Heil AMT from my college days -- still sound great after all these years. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78593 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Monster cables.
Another vote for Blue Jean Cables. All my Balanced Cables are from Blue Jean Cables. I have several of their RCA ICs and a pair of Anti Cables ICs. The Anti Cables are about 3 times the price of the Blue Jeans but still not outrageous as some cables get. I have tried many cables over the years having worked at a few high end audio shops giving me access to cables that I would never even think about buying due to their unbelievable cost. It is my opinion that Monster Cables are ALL advertising and hype. And guess who is paying for all that advertising? It comes to a point that as long as the cable is properly constructed and made from proper materials, they all do the same thing with the rest being snake oil. The biggest sonic differences I have heard over the years are how different cables act with specific equipment. What I mean by this is that interconnects tend to have a signature or speciality. Due to how frequency affects how a signal travels on wire/strands one cable will seem to sound different from another due to how they differ in construction. So the construction can cause a cable to sound bright, dull, muted, depending on what frequency the cable construction favors. This can actually help by matching a cables signature to help benefit how a pre-amp and amp sound together. My suggestion is borrow as many cables as one can from his local dealer to see what works best in ones system rather then go by brand or price. Obviously there is a point at which interconnects are drastically interfering with the sound/signal due to poor construction and poor material choices. Above this are cables that are being as neutral as is possible which I consider proper cables. And above these are the ones that go so far beyond what anybody can hear and are outrageously priced. So in the end, find the cables that sound good for you in your system. Not what some advertising or salesman say you need or are the ones to go with. The test at the dealer is to have them do the blind testing with you switching the cables for them to get the sell. If they will not go to this length to sell the cables to you, then stay away from those cables. Also if they agree and can't 'pick' the superior interconnects 75% or more of the time, again stay away as its all advertising hype. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1 Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Second Boom Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78593 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Monster cables.
snarlydwarf;546850 Wrote: Blue Jeans will not sue you for wearing blue jeans. Monster Cable will threaten to sue you for selling automotive transmissions. Monster Cable is a great company to support if you believe our justice system is idle and we need to employ more lawyers. Indeed - never has a company been so aptly named... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78593 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Monster cables.
Wow. They sure have established a good reputation. Thanks for the advice. -- Ikabob Ikabob's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32088 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78593 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Monster cables.
Ikabob;546900 Wrote: Wow. They sure have established a good reputation. Thanks for the advice. Google for 'monster cable sues'. Sad. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78593 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Monster cables.
Fab http://www.audioholics.com/news/industry-news/blue-jeans-strikes-back When did you ever read a lawyer's letter all the way through, and enjoy it?! -- KMorgan - Sorry, can't spare enough hours today for that 5 min job on the computer. KMorgan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78593 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles