Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Will a Meridian 556 enhance the SB3?

2007-06-12 Thread kphinney

Update: posted the Meridian on Audiogon for the same price I paid.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Will a Meridian 556 enhance the SB3?

2007-06-11 Thread kphinney

I'll acquiesce to the manufacturer and leave it on as they seem to think
it makes a difference also.  Regardless, I think I'll be reselling it. 
It's nice sounding but takes up a bit more room & space is a commodity
to me right now.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Will a Meridian 556 enhance the SB3?

2007-06-10 Thread mswlogo

Seriously, it's more likely your ears that are "warming up" (they vary
over time WAY more than the electronics).

I have a ton of Meridian gear (including 26 channels of Meridian DACs)
and it sounds the same stone cold or warm. I even have X10 switches on
everything to shut things down stone cold when not in use.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Will a Meridian 556 enhance the SB3?

2007-06-10 Thread mswlogo

Seriously, it's more likely your ears that are "warming up" (they vary
over time WAY more than the electronics).

I have a ton of Meridian gear (including 26 channels of Meridian DACs)
and it sounds the same stone cold or warm. I even have X10 switches on
everything to shut things down stone cold when not in use.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Will a Meridian 556 enhance the SB3?

2007-06-10 Thread mswlogo

Seriously, it's more likely your ears that are "warming up" (they vary
over time WAY more than the electronics).

I have a ton of Meridian gear (including 26 channels of Meridian DACs)
and it sounds the same stone cold or warm. I even have X10 switches on
everything to shut things down stone cold when not in use.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Will a Meridian 556 enhance the SB3?

2007-06-10 Thread kphinney

The Meridian 566.20 gives an improved depth to the music that is most
noticeable with classical and Jewel (don't ask - wife's pick) while not
noticeable with some of the female vocalists I prefer.  Norah Jones
didn't even get a minor bump.  In the spirit of full disclosure I am
still breaking in the Omega speaker (Fostex drivers).

The 566 definitely sounds better after it has been left on for a while.
Something I didn't have the luxury of doing when I demo'd it.  A
comparison now may give better results.

Thanks for the input.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Will a Meridian 556 enhance the SB3?

2007-06-09 Thread mswlogo

A lot of folks at http://www.meridianunplugged.com seem to like putting
a 518 on their squeeze box or music server. I have never tried it and
may one of these days.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Will a Meridian 556 enhance the SB3?

2007-06-09 Thread kphinney

Pat & Adam,
Thanks for the input.  I give it a shot and pass along my findings.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Will a Meridian 556 enhance the SB3?

2007-06-09 Thread Pat Farrell
kphinney wrote:
> Sorry for the confusion Pat.  A little typo, which I fixed in my posts. 
> I'm considering the Meridian 566.

Oh, that is totally different.
Their 566 DAC is very old, the data sheet is from 1996.
http://www.meridian-audio.com/data/566.pdf

If it is cheap enough, it might be worth a flyer.

But DACs get better with Moore's law. maybe not doubling every two 
years, but getting significantly better.

While Meridian stuff is well engineered and expensive originaly, I would 
not expect something that ancient to be much of an improvement. A used 
Benchmark DAC-1, on the other hand, sounded much better than my 
SqueezeBox. I used it until I got my Transporter.

Both the Meridian and the Benchmark have fairly stable prices these days 
so you could buy one, listen for a month, and sell it if you are not in 
love, without losing much money.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Will a Meridian 556 enhance the SB3?

2007-06-09 Thread adamslim

I had a Meridian 566 (20-bit, IIRC; might have been 24).  It's a
reasonable DAC, and I understand that it can be modded for good
improvement.

I have not compared it directly to my SB3, as I sold it about 4 years
ago.  I did compare it to the Shanling CD-T100 - I bought the Shanling
and sold the 566.  The Shanling also sounds comfortably better than the
stock SB3, although not as good as my SB+.

The 566 has a fairly delicate, warm sound.  It's nice, but I never
found it that engaging (no PRaT).  The stock SB3 I would describe as
fairly punchy, but again not that engaging - it lacks the detail and
resolution to sound real enough, to me.  Therefore, if you're looking
for a more detailed sound, and to remove some of the 'rough edges' off
the SB3, then the Meridian could work.

If it's cheap enough, why not buy and see?  Meridian kit tends to hold
a decent second hand value, so if you get a bargain you can't lose!

HTH

Adam


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Will a Meridian 556 enhance the SB3?

2007-06-09 Thread kphinney

Sorry for the confusion Pat.  A little typo, which I fixed in my posts. 
I'm considering the Meridian 566.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Will a Meridian 556 enhance the SB3?

2007-06-09 Thread kphinney

Thanks Pat  -  I plan on keeping the JoLida amp for quite some time - it
powers the Omega speakers very well with their 95db sensitivity.  

My question was trying to address using the Meridian as a DAC opposed
to the onboard SB3 converter.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Will a Meridian 556 enhance the SB3?

2007-06-09 Thread Pat Farrell
kphinney wrote:
>  a Meridian 556 fairly cheep.

> currently run off of the Jolida 102B.

So you are proposing to replace a 20 watt tube amp with a 100 watt solid 
state amp and trying to compare them? Impossible.

Do you run out of power with the 20 watts? (i.e. do you love head 
banging rock?)

  I could see owning both.

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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Will a Meridian 556 enhance the SB3?

2007-06-09 Thread kphinney

I have an opportunity to pick up a Meridian 556 fairly cheep.  Do you
feel it'd help my system out?  I'm breaking in a pair of Omega Grande
6's with Fostex drivers and comparing them to my B&W DM602's.  Both
currently run off of the Jolida 102B.
My Zhaolu D2.5 is primarily used as a headphone amp/dac in my office
connected to a PowerMac, not as a DAC for the SB3.


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