Re: [aur-general] Plans for packages in community

2008-09-25 Thread DaNiMoTh
2008/9/24 [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hello,
[cut]
> What are your opinions?
>
> Regards Stefan


There are many orphans in community right now, IMHO you need to take
care of these ( if you or the community are interested ) before adding
other ( maybe useless ) package :)

Aloha ~~


Re: [aur-general] TU Application

2008-09-25 Thread Imanol Celaya
>
>4l:  Dependency to gcc is not needed, it is in base-devel, and you
>have a mkdir -p which should be a install -d
>
>You can consider to replace $startdir/src with $srcdir and
>$startdir/pkg with $pkgdir in some PKGBUILDS.
>

Now that I look more thoroughly it seems that 4L is only dynamically linked
to lightscribe, but I have to look better at it.

$srcdir and $pkgdir done

>
>Can you please explain what EDA and GPGPU means? I did a little
>googling, but the pages I found go far beyond my skills in computer
>science. Do you have some projects for packaging in mind in that
>direction?
>

EDA stands for Electronic Design Automation which is basically programs to
design and usually test electronic circuits .

GPGPU is General Purpose GPU which allows to use the GPU as a kind of CPU,
they must be programmed differently, an example of this could be nvidia
CUDA, amd/ati close to metal, or use OpenGL's GLSL (GL Shader Language)
vendor neutral in theory.

>
>Seems you haven't made a PKGBUILD for it, would make it easier to
>install... *hint* ;)
>

It just recently got to a somewhat "usable" status in which segmentation
faults are not the norm. I could always do a svn package though.

>
>You should check out llvm and llvm-based compilers, like clang
>(C/C++/Obj-C)... I did an attempt but their build process is a bit
>odd, and clang hasn't been "released" yet, just lives in svn.
>

interesting, I'll look at it.


Re: [aur-general] TU Application

2008-09-25 Thread Kessia 'even' Pinheiro
Hi Imanol!

On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 4:10 PM, Imanol Celaya
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> My name is Imanol Celaya, I'm 19 years old and I'm studying Electrical
> Engineering in Bilbao, Spain. On the forums and irc you can find me as
> ornitorrincos.

Angel tell me about your hacker skills, nice meet you. Your nickname
is funny. =)


> I started on linux on 2003 and first used fedora core, then debian and
> finally arch since late 2006 testing some more like gentoo, solaris,
> and openbsd on dual boot. a bit later I got involved in the Spanish
> arch community translating the docs and one iso installer. I'm also
> developing pyalpm [http://pyalpm.sourceforge.net] (not the 2005's
> attempt using ctype, but using distutils) I'm also one of the
> developers of the bot on #archlinux-es
> [github.com/ornitorrincos/archinator].

I've think in make some like pyalpm to our little software pacupdate.
I'll take a look at this as soon I can.


> As you can see with some of my packages
> [http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?SeB=m&K=ornitorrincos] I'm
> interested in packaging for arch some developer tools(as NetBSD's make
> and the TenDRA C compiler, svn at the moment as the latest "stable"
> release is from 1998 but I wouldn't mind try to package it if somebody
> wants it), of course, I'd be interested in packaging some more C/C++
> compilers(which are not gcc, variety is a good thing), I'm also
> interested in python, EDA software and 3d apps. If possible I also
> plan to package some GPGPU software.

When I saw your packages, the only thing I saw was the $pkgdir,
$srcdir, variables to be used. But, Stefan wrote about that before,
so...
Some time ago i read about this GPGPU project. I don't remember if is
the same, but the ideia is right. The GPU's can have a lot of
processing power than normal CPU's. But, we'll need rebuild the actual
arch's to do it...


> I have both a x86_64 machine and a i686 machine with arch installed.
>
> On my free time I like to go out with some friends, see a movie or do
> 3d modeling.
>
> I've been some time wanting to be a TU and angvp told me that when
> I feel prepared I could ask him to be my sponsor, and as today I feel
> prepared to apply angvp is my sponsor.
>
> Greetings,
>
> Imanol
>



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Re: [aur-general] TU Application

2008-09-25 Thread Imanol Celaya
>
> Angel tell me about your hacker skills, nice meet you. Your nickname
> is funny. =)
>

He just tends to exagerate :)


>
>
>
>
> > As you can see with some of my packages
> > [http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?SeB=m&K=ornitorrincos] I'm
> > interested in packaging for arch some developer tools(as NetBSD's make
> > and the TenDRA C compiler, svn at the moment as the latest "stable"
> > release is from 1998 but I wouldn't mind try to package it if somebody
> > wants it), of course, I'd be interested in packaging some more C/C++
> > compilers(which are not gcc, variety is a good thing), I'm also
> > interested in python, EDA software and 3d apps. If possible I also
> > plan to package some GPGPU software.
>
> When I saw your packages, the only thing I saw was the $pkgdir,
> $srcdir, variables to be used. But, Stefan wrote about that before,
> so...
> Some time ago i read about this GPGPU project. I don't remember if is
> the same, but the ideia is right. The GPU's can have a lot of
> processing power than normal CPU's. But, we'll need rebuild the actual
> arch's to do it...
>
>
porting arch would be something impossible as GPU's need to be programmed
specially(more like the Cell for example than an actual x86 CPU) using
Stream computing, I just plan to package if I can libraries and maybe some
app


Re: [aur-general] TU Application

2008-09-25 Thread Paulo Matias
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 11:43 AM, Imanol Celaya
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>You should check out llvm and llvm-based compilers, like clang
>>(C/C++/Obj-C)... I did an attempt but their build process is a bit
>>odd, and clang hasn't been "released" yet, just lives in svn.
>>
>
> interesting, I'll look at it.
>

As you like Python, I'd suggest "pygpu" too.

I sadly currently don't own a GPGPU-capable graphics card.

You can contact me if you need any help with your packages.


Best regards,

Paulo Matias


[aur-general] What's goin on with Asterisk on Arch Linux?

2008-09-25 Thread Marcelo Cavalcante
Hi everyone...
Today i decided to start creating the [1]OpenR2 package for Arch Linux.
OpenR2 is a library that implements the MFC/R2 telephony signaling protocol
over E1 lines. Along with the library, branches for Asterisk are provided
with MFC/R2 support in chan_zap.

Well done, as my first move i decided to check in AUR if someone else had
already thought about this package. The package isn't there. Great. So, I
decided to take a look at our repos and search for asterisk.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ sudo pacman -Ss asterisk
Senha:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$

I realized that we don't have asterisk in our "pacman". I can't believe it.
Asterisk is such an important package. I saw it on AUR. How can we have the
package into our "regular" repos? Only if a TU addopt it?

Best regards

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- http://blog.marcelocavalcante.net


Re: [aur-general] What's goin on with Asterisk on Arch Linux?

2008-09-25 Thread Ronald van Haren
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 9:16 PM, Marcelo Cavalcante
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I realized that we don't have asterisk in our "pacman". I can't believe it.
> Asterisk is such an important package. I saw it on AUR. How can we have the
> package into our "regular" repos? Only if a TU addopt it?
>

yes only if a TU or dev adopts it (and if the license is okay). But I
don't really understand why it is such an important package, it only
has 19 votes which doesn't indicate that it is a very popular package.

Ronald


Re: [aur-general] What's goin on with Asterisk on Arch Linux?

2008-09-25 Thread Daenyth Blank
>How can we have the
> package into our "regular" repos? Only if a TU addopt it?
Basically. If no existing TU is interested in maintaining it, you can
always find a sponsor and apply. (We need more TUs!)


Re: [aur-general] What's goin on with Asterisk on Arch Linux?

2008-09-25 Thread Marcelo Cavalcante
Well, it's such a nice package. It's de world's leading open source PBX
toolkit. Very popular and powerfull.

Thanks for your answer... I'll be praying.

2008/9/25 Ronald van Haren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 9:16 PM, Marcelo Cavalcante
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I realized that we don't have asterisk in our "pacman". I can't believe
> it.
> > Asterisk is such an important package. I saw it on AUR. How can we have
> the
> > package into our "regular" repos? Only if a TU addopt it?
> >
>
> yes only if a TU or dev adopts it (and if the license is okay). But I
> don't really understand why it is such an important package, it only
> has 19 votes which doesn't indicate that it is a very popular package.
>
> Ronald
>



-- 
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- /(_)\ Usuário Linux Registrado #407564
- ^ ^ GNU-Linux - Livre, Poderoso e Seguro
- TUX-CE - www.tux-ce.org
- http://blog.marcelocavalcante.net


Re: [aur-general] What's goin on with Asterisk on Arch Linux?

2008-09-25 Thread Hugo Doria
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Daenyth Blank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>How can we have the
>> package into our "regular" repos? Only if a TU addopt it?
> Basically. If no existing TU is interested in maintaining it, you can
> always find a sponsor and apply. (We need more TUs!)

Go brazilians, go! #)

Asterisk is very popular, but it is used in servers. I dont know much
people using Arch as a production server. Maybe this is the reason why
asterisk is not so popular in Arch.

-- Hugo


Re: [aur-general] What's goin on with Asterisk on Arch Linux?

2008-09-25 Thread Marcelo Cavalcante
I don't think i'm ready yet... I'm new in arch community, but i'm trying to
start my packages to AUR...maybe some day i'll feel ready for it.

2008/9/25 Daenyth Blank <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>

> >How can we have the
> > package into our "regular" repos? Only if a TU addopt it?
> Basically. If no existing TU is interested in maintaining it, you can
> always find a sponsor and apply. (We need more TUs!)
>



-- 
- °v° Marcelo Cavalcante Rocha / Kalib
- /(_)\ Usuário Linux Registrado #407564
- ^ ^ GNU-Linux - Livre, Poderoso e Seguro
- TUX-CE - www.tux-ce.org
- http://blog.marcelocavalcante.net


Re: [aur-general] Plans for packages in community

2008-09-25 Thread Abhishek Dasgupta
About sage-mathematics: It includes lots of libraries
like lapack as well within the tarball, and the default
installation procedure tries to build from its own lapack
instead of using the system lapack.

Building sage-mathematics would require us to properly
identify the core components of sage which are not packaged
separately (that's how it's being packaged for Debian [1] [2]):

[1]: http://wiki.sagemath.org/DebianSAGE
[2]: http://groups.google.com/group/debian-sage

-- 
Abhishek Dasgupta