Re: [aur-general] TU Application
On 03/07/2009, nathan owe. ndowen...@gmail.com wrote: Nah i am just use to typing w/o hitting the enter button much I must excuse myself with you for my previous message. I was irritated the yesterday night. As Allan said, you asked recently for help and first to became a TU is your turn to help people now; on forum, on IRC, on mailing lists. Also you can look for good and secure, or at least working, useless or duplicate packages, PKGBUILDs on AUR, this is a good thing and every TUs should do this. At the end IMHO the best thing for join community is to help in Arch Linux projects, let people know your quality. So, when you did something of these, come back here and I am sure you will find a sponsor. Good luck! -- Andrea `bash` Scarpino Arch Linux Developer
Re: [aur-general] TU Application
On Fri 03 Jul 2009 14:40 +1000, Allan McRae wrote: nathan owe. wrote: Well my name is Nathan Owe. I am applying to be a TU, a person with the username Ghost1227 looked at some of my pkgs i have made, and he made suggestions on what i should do to improve my PKGBUILDs. well i downloaded all my packages and fixed them according to his suggestions. I do believe my packages do conform to the guidelines. The reason for applying for TU is because i love arch linux and i want to contribute back to this great OS. I love that i can contribute the way i am now, but i want to try and contribute to the development of AUR more by trying to help others as well. I have currently over 60 nearly 70 pkgs and still counting. I currently don't have a sponsor. I usually am signed into the IRC channel but usually don't talk much due to working on packages to contribute. my nickname is ndowens on both IRC and AUR. Hi Nathan, I'm not longer a Trusted User so I do not get a vote in this anymore, but knowing how this works I would suggest that your application is coming too soon. In the past month, you have been asking for a lot of help doing what I consider fairly easy packaging. This is not saying that asking for help is a bad thing, but rather I think that you need more time to learn packaging techniques and get used to fixing problem situations. When you maintain packages in the [community] repo as a Trusted User, you are expected to be able to deal with breakages that occur. These are somewhat frequent in a rolling release distribution as updating a package that is in the dependency chain of one of your packages can cause your package to stop working properly. The TUs need to be confident that you will be able to handle such breakages (whether they need a patch or a simple sed line). I encourage you to continue learning the packaging system and try to become a TU at a later date. Most TUs had been packaging for half a year by the time of their application. Remember, there is a lot you can contribute to Arch without being a TU. In fact, the only thing TUs can do that you can not is put binary packages into the [community] repo. I'd suggest looking for bugs on the bug tracker and seeing if you can replicate the problem, try to fix it and post the fixed PKGBUILD to the bug tracker if you can. That teaches you how to deal with problems while proving your ability to become a Trusted User. Also remember that it is not the number of packages you maintain, but the quality of those packages. So try to help out in irc or the forums rather then taking another package just because you can. Packaging only software you are genuinely interested in helps keep the motivation going. Indeed. Well said Allan. That's pretty much how I feel about this application.
Re: [aur-general] TU Application
Excerpts from Allan McRae's message of Fri Jul 03 00:40:57 -0400 2009: I'm not longer a Trusted User so I do not get a vote in this anymore, but knowing how this works I would suggest that your application is coming too soon. Yeah, I'm not an anybody, but I really feel this way too from reading the mailing lists. Though, I like Nathan's overall attitude. He doesn't seem ready skill-wise, but if he keeps up this interest and desire to help people, the ability will come. I might also suggest to Nathan that he try to improve his grammar/spelling/capitalization/formatting. Doing these things properly will get you further in open source software communities. Cheers. -- Andrei Thorp, Developer: Xandros Corp. (http://www.xandros.com)
Re: [aur-general] Application for TU
Thanks all for your comments and suggestions. All the changes were made. I will welcome any new feedback. []s 2009/7/2 corvolino corvol...@archlinux.com.br hello overyone, I have already indicated some changes in the next few hours is all ok. i thank all and ask a little patience. thanks! ;) 2009/7/1 Paulo Matias mat...@archlinux-br.org Hi all, I'm glad to sponsor him. It has some time since I know him from the Brazilian community and he is a very helpful and collaborative guy. I will help him fixing any problems we may encounter. So this starts the discussion period. Best regards, Paulo Matias -- corvolino ~ Linux User #459152 Blog - http://corvolinopunk.wordpress.com Archlinux-br Developer Team -- corvolino ~ Linux User #459152 Blog - http://corvolinopunk.wordpress.com Archlinux-br Developer Team
Re: [aur-general] Application for TU
On Fri 03 Jul 2009 11:46 -0300, corvolino wrote: Thanks all for your comments and suggestions. All the changes were made. I will welcome any new feedback. Awesome. You forgot amule-upnp though! The url should be a string rather than an array. http://aur.archlinux.org/packages/amule-upnp/amule-upnp/PKGBUILD You should also describe exactly what is different about this package compared to the stock amule package. Cheers!
Re: [aur-general] TU Application
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 09:21, Andrei Thorpgar...@gmail.com wrote: Excerpts from Allan McRae's message of Fri Jul 03 00:40:57 -0400 2009: I'm not longer a Trusted User so I do not get a vote in this anymore, but knowing how this works I would suggest that your application is coming too soon. Yeah, I'm not an anybody, but I really feel this way too from reading the mailing lists. Though, I like Nathan's overall attitude. He doesn't seem ready skill-wise, but if he keeps up this interest and desire to help people, the ability will come. I agree with all the above points here I might also suggest to Nathan that he try to improve his grammar/spelling/capitalization/formatting. Doing these things properly will get you further in open source software communities. Also agreed. Text is the only way we have to get to know you, so if you put out an image of being sloppy, careless, and/or ignorant (no offense, just saying that it causes that perception), it has an impact on how people think of you. The general thinking is that if you're not willing to put in the effort to make your thoughts understandable, we shouldn't care about the content of them. Also it makes it genuinely hard sometimes for people (especially non-native speakers of English, of which we have many in Arch) to understand you. Again, I'm not trying to put you down, just offering constructive criticism. Keep working on expanding your skills and helping out people, and I'm sure that if you try again in a few months (or however long), we'd love to have you. People with your enthusiasm are really helpful, you just need to get your skill up to the same level. :)
Re: [aur-general] TU Application
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Andrei Thorpgar...@gmail.com wrote: I might also suggest to Nathan that he try to improve his grammar/spelling/capitalization/formatting. Doing these things properly will get you further in open source software communities. This has nothing to do with open source, but I completely agree. Besides when someone does not make any efforts writing, the reader has to do much more efforts parsing and understanding the message, and will very likely just skip/ignore it. An even better (sigh) example : http://www.archlinux.org/pipermail/pacman-dev/2009-July/008887.html
[aur-general] script for running namcap on a AUR maintainer's packages
It's useful to run namcap on a maintainer's packages on the AUR, especially when people apply for TU. This pair of scripts fetches the package names belonging to a maintainer (it only fetches the first 100 results though) and the second runs namcap on the package list by downloading the PKGBUILDs from AUR. -- Abhishek aur-maintainer-pkgs Description: Binary data namcap-aur-pkgs Description: Binary data
Re: [aur-general] script for running namcap on a AUR maintainer's packages
Excerpts from Abhishek Dasgupta's message of Fri Jul 03 12:48:55 -0400 2009: It's useful to run namcap on a maintainer's packages on the AUR, especially when people apply for TU. This pair of scripts fetches the package names belonging to a maintainer (it only fetches the first 100 results though) and the second runs namcap on the package list by downloading the PKGBUILDs from AUR. I like this idea, good work as usual. -- Andrei Thorp, Developer: Xandros Corp. (http://www.xandros.com)
Re: [aur-general] Application for TU
Because he has no patch. My sponsor suggested that i leave is because the original version was not compatible with you source. 2009/7/3 Loui Chang louipc@gmail.com On Fri 03 Jul 2009 11:46 -0300, corvolino wrote: Thanks all for your comments and suggestions. All the changes were made. I will welcome any new feedback. Awesome. You forgot amule-upnp though! The url should be a string rather than an array. http://aur.archlinux.org/packages/amule-upnp/amule-upnp/PKGBUILD You should also describe exactly what is different about this package compared to the stock amule package. Cheers! -- corvolino ~ Linux User #459152 Blog - http://corvolinopunk.wordpress.com Archlinux-br Developer Team
Re: [aur-general] Application for TU
On Fri 03 Jul 2009 14:09 -0300, corvolino wrote: Because he has no patch. My sponsor suggested that i leave is because the original version was not compatible with you source. 2009/7/3 Loui Chang louipc@gmail.com Awesome. You forgot amule-upnp though! The url should be a string rather than an array. http://aur.archlinux.org/packages/amule-upnp/amule-upnp/PKGBUILD You should also describe exactly what is different about this package compared to the stock amule package. I don't quite understand what you mean there. Can you try rephrasing that? Thanks. Did your sponsor say to leave the url as an array?
Re: [aur-general] Application for TU
I guess you should keep working for now. Improving your skills, etc.. I think you're doing a great job but need to practice and improve it more to become a TU. IMHO, off course. Best Regards... --- - °v° Marcelo Cavalcante Rocha / Kalib - /(_)\ Usuário Linux #407564 / Usuário Asterisk #1148 - ^ ^ GNU-Linux - Livre, Poderoso e Seguro - TUX-CE Member - www.tux-ce.org - Archlinux-br Developer Team - http://archlinux-br.org - http://www.marcelocavalcante.net On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Loui Chang louipc@gmail.com wrote: On Fri 03 Jul 2009 14:09 -0300, corvolino wrote: Because he has no patch. My sponsor suggested that i leave is because the original version was not compatible with you source. 2009/7/3 Loui Chang louipc@gmail.com Awesome. You forgot amule-upnp though! The url should be a string rather than an array. http://aur.archlinux.org/packages/amule-upnp/amule-upnp/PKGBUILD You should also describe exactly what is different about this package compared to the stock amule package. I don't quite understand what you mean there. Can you try rephrasing that? Thanks. Did your sponsor say to leave the url as an array?
Re: [aur-general] Application for TU
Kalib, thanks for the tip. I just want to help, finally.. []s 2009/7/3 Marcelo Cavalcante kalibsl...@gmail.com I guess you should keep working for now. Improving your skills, etc.. I think you're doing a great job but need to practice and improve it more to become a TU. IMHO, off course. Best Regards... --- - °v° Marcelo Cavalcante Rocha / Kalib - /(_)\ Usuário Linux #407564 / Usuário Asterisk #1148 - ^ ^ GNU-Linux - Livre, Poderoso e Seguro - TUX-CE Member - www.tux-ce.org - Archlinux-br Developer Team - http://archlinux-br.org - http://www.marcelocavalcante.net On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Loui Chang louipc@gmail.com wrote: On Fri 03 Jul 2009 14:09 -0300, corvolino wrote: Because he has no patch. My sponsor suggested that i leave is because the original version was not compatible with you source. 2009/7/3 Loui Chang louipc@gmail.com Awesome. You forgot amule-upnp though! The url should be a string rather than an array. http://aur.archlinux.org/packages/amule-upnp/amule-upnp/PKGBUILD You should also describe exactly what is different about this package compared to the stock amule package. I don't quite understand what you mean there. Can you try rephrasing that? Thanks. Did your sponsor say to leave the url as an array? -- corvolino ~ Linux User #459152 Blog - http://corvolinopunk.wordpress.com Archlinux-br Developer Team
[aur-general] Integrity Check community i686 03-07-2009
= = Integrity Check i686 of community = = Performing integrity checks... == parsing pkgbuilds == checking mismatches == checking archs == checking dependencies == checking makedepends == checking for circular dependencies Missing PKGBUILDs --- /srv/abs/rsync/i686//community/CVS /srv/abs/rsync/i686//community/daemons/CVS /srv/abs/rsync/i686//community/devel/CVS /srv/abs/rsync/i686//community/editors/CVS /srv/abs/rsync/i686//community/emulators/CVS /srv/abs/rsync/i686//community/games/CVS /srv/abs/rsync/i686//community/gnome/CVS /srv/abs/rsync/i686//community/i18n/CVS /srv/abs/rsync/i686//community/kde/CVS /srv/abs/rsync/i686//community/lib/CVS /srv/abs/rsync/i686//community/modules/CVS /srv/abs/rsync/i686//community/multimedia/CVS /srv/abs/rsync/i686//community/network/CVS /srv/abs/rsync/i686//community/office/CVS /srv/abs/rsync/i686//community/science/CVS /srv/abs/rsync/i686//community/system/CVS /srv/abs/rsync/i686//community/x11/CVS /srv/abs/rsync/i686//community/xfce/CVS Missing Dependencies -- flumotion -- 'twisted-web' open-vm-tools-modules -- 'kernel262.6.28' qc-usb-messenger -- 'kernel262.6.28' eclipse-ve -- 'eclipse3.3' cdfs -- 'kernel262.6.28' Missing Makedepends - virtualbox-ose-additions -- 'gcc34' virtualbox-modules -- 'gcc34' id3lib-rcc -- 'gcc34' greycstoration -- 'gcc34' virtualbox-ose -- 'gcc34' tvision -- 'gcc34' classpath -- 'jikes' open-vm-tools -- 'chrpath' Summary - Missing PKGBUILDs: 18 Invalid PKGBUILDs: 0 Mismatching PKGBUILD names:0 Duplicate PKGBUILDs: 0 Invalid archs: 0 Missing (make)dependencies:13 Repo hierarchy problems: 0 Circular dependencies: 0
Re: [aur-general] Application for TU
Please do not top post on our mailing lists, it makes your messages a pain to read.
[aur-general] Integrity Check community x86_64 03-07-2009
=== = Integrity Check x86_64 of community = === Performing integrity checks... == parsing pkgbuilds == checking mismatches == checking archs == checking dependencies == checking makedepends == checking for circular dependencies Missing PKGBUILDs --- /srv/abs/rsync/x86_64//community/CVS /srv/abs/rsync/x86_64//community/daemons/CVS /srv/abs/rsync/x86_64//community/devel/CVS /srv/abs/rsync/x86_64//community/editors/CVS /srv/abs/rsync/x86_64//community/emulators/CVS /srv/abs/rsync/x86_64//community/games/CVS /srv/abs/rsync/x86_64//community/gnome/CVS /srv/abs/rsync/x86_64//community/i18n/CVS /srv/abs/rsync/x86_64//community/kde/CVS /srv/abs/rsync/x86_64//community/lib/CVS /srv/abs/rsync/x86_64//community/lib32/CVS /srv/abs/rsync/x86_64//community/modules/CVS /srv/abs/rsync/x86_64//community/multimedia/CVS /srv/abs/rsync/x86_64//community/network/CVS /srv/abs/rsync/x86_64//community/office/CVS /srv/abs/rsync/x86_64//community/science/CVS /srv/abs/rsync/x86_64//community/system/CVS /srv/abs/rsync/x86_64//community/x11/CVS /srv/abs/rsync/x86_64//community/xfce/CVS Missing Dependencies -- eclipse-ve -- 'eclipse3.3' flumotion -- 'twisted-web' open-vm-tools-modules -- 'kernel262.6.28' qc-usb-messenger -- 'kernel262.6.28' cdfs -- 'kernel262.6.28' Missing Makedepends - id3lib-rcc -- 'gcc34' greycstoration -- 'gcc34' tvision -- 'gcc34' classpath -- 'jikes' open-vm-tools -- 'chrpath' Summary - Missing PKGBUILDs: 19 Invalid PKGBUILDs: 0 Mismatching PKGBUILD names:0 Duplicate PKGBUILDs: 0 Invalid archs: 0 Missing (make)dependencies:10 Repo hierarchy problems: 0 Circular dependencies: 0
Re: [aur-general] Application for TU
Excerpts from Daenyth Blank's message of Fri Jul 03 16:11:37 -0400 2009: Please do not top post on our mailing lists, it makes your messages a pain to read. Yay, hate on the top-posting :) (my mail client (sup) annoys my if I do by default). -- Andrei Thorp, Developer: Xandros Corp. (http://www.xandros.com)
[aur-general] arch-diff page offline
Hi devs and TUs, the diff page http://www.archlinux.de/?page=ArchitectureDifferences does not work atm. Looks like one of the last updates makes it impossible to extract the db files using bsdtar within php. This might be due to an undocumented change in php or just a bug. I'll have to find out. :-) Pierre -- Pierre Schmitz, http://users.archlinux.de/~pierre
Re: [aur-general] [arch-dev-public] arch-diff page offline
2009/7/3, Pierre Schmitz pie...@archlinux.de: Hi devs and TUs, the diff page http://www.archlinux.de/?page=ArchitectureDifferences does not work atm. I just noticed that... -- Arch Linux Developer http://www.archlinux.org http://www.archlinux.it
Re: [aur-general] script for running namcap on a AUR maintainer's packages
I'm having a problem with namcap-aur-pkgs. I enter any aur package, correct to the syntax, and it fails to download it, instead going straight to cat somthing or other. This errors out and I get no further. I had a quick look at the code, and the problem seems in the last little bit. Anyway, I've got it working, see below for my code and a patch for yours. Thanks, Laurie 2009/7/3 Abhishek Dasgupta abh...@gmail.com: It's useful to run namcap on a maintainer's packages on the AUR, especially when people apply for TU. This pair of scripts fetches the package names belonging to a maintainer (it only fetches the first 100 results though) and the second runs namcap on the package list by downloading the PKGBUILDs from AUR. -- Abhishek namcap-aur-pkgs Description: Binary data
[aur-general] Please orphan package dlan-linux-package
Hi thar, Please orphan package dlan-linux-package as the original author does not respond to mails and in general does not seem to be active anymore. I will gladly take over the package and modify it to match Arch's standards. -- Sven-Hendrik
Re: [aur-general] Please orphan package dlan-linux-package
On 04/07/2009, Sven-Hendrik Haase s...@lutzhaase.com wrote: Please orphan package dlan-linux-package as the original author does not respond to mails and in general does not seem to be active anymore. I will gladly take over the package and modify it to match Arch's standards. Done -- Andrea `bash` Scarpino Arch Linux Developer
Re: [aur-general] TU ap
it's alright to all the TU's reading this, I understand. I will wait later to try again. Also at the same time, maybe I can contribute more this way then as a TU, because of things TU has to do.
