[aur-general] PKGBUILD for java-gnome

2009-08-02 Thread Michael Kanis
Hi,

in [community] there is the package java-gnome.
http://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/i686/java-gnome/

However there is no PKGBUILD to download for it. How can I access it?
Also it says that it's unmaintained. Could it be put back in AUR so I
can update and maintain the package?

Regards
Michael



Re: [aur-general] PKGBUILD for java-gnome

2009-08-02 Thread Biru Ionut

Michael Kanis wrote:

Hi,

in [community] there is the package java-gnome.
http://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/i686/java-gnome/

However there is no PKGBUILD to download for it. How can I access it?
Also it says that it's unmaintained. Could it be put back in AUR so I
can update and maintain the package?

Regards
Michael

the interface for community is not ready now. that doesn't mean that is 
unmaintained. to access the build just use abs


--
Ionut


[aur-general] Removal request

2009-08-02 Thread Dany Martineau
Hi!

I was the owner of gguitar PKGBUILD, but since the project was renamed to 
wxguitar, i decided to create another PKGBUILD.
Could someone with sufficient rights could delete gguitar from AUR?

Thanks!

-- 
Dany Martineau
Enseignant en mathématiques
En congé parental jusqu'au 25 août 2009
http://arctangente.blogspot.com
CSSMI


Re: [aur-general] TU application: Laszlo Papp

2009-08-02 Thread Lucas Salies Brum
I haven't got big knowledge, I am not TU or developer, but I would
like to express my sincere support to Laszlo, because he always helped
me and helped those who needed, in patching a Makefile with sed,
general PKGBUILD questions, and archlinux/linux general questions.

We talked about him yesterday(2 person) on #archlinux-br channel, and
the conclusion was he would be a great TU, and we support him.

I trust him, really, he helped me(too) a lot, in enthusiastic way,
without any agressive senctence.

I wouldn't write so long mail, I think it's better to read more
opinion than just a few.

Good luck. Laszlo!

2009/7/31, Laszlo Papp djsza...@gmail.com:
 Hello,

 I'd like to formally express my interest in becoming a Trusted User.
 My name is Laszlo Papp and I'm addicted to archlinux. :) I'm a 23 year
 old from Hungary, working at a resourcement/development company as
 Embedded Linux Developer.

 I've been using Linux for more than 7 years. I used Gentoo until early
 2008, and I learned a great deal about Linux in the process. I settled
 on Arch more than 1 year ago, nearly 1 and half :) Moving to Arch was
 easy for me, because of my years of experience with Gentoo. I was very
 attracted by the lack of dominance of money and business world and by
 the warm and friendly community.

 I have got some experience in Assembly, C, VHDL languages. I have
 written some open source usb kernel driver (for Passport Reader,
 Fingerprint Reader, etc.), and a pci kernel driver.  I've worked with
 PIC, AVR microcontrollers, DSP processors, ARM architecture, and FPGA
 design. I deal with Blackfin DSP board with Embedded Linux on it
 recently, and I try to help to write C/ASM API for this.

 My username on the BBS, AUR, Wiki, Bugs, and Freenode is
 djszapi. Mainly my contribution to archlinux community was on this
 sites. See the following URL for my packages in AUR:
 http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?SeB=mK=djszapi

 I think that Arch does not have a significant presence in the embedded
 development area of community. I wish to make Arch a viable choice for
 an embedded developer, by maintaining more popular embedded
 development related packages in [community].  My Second purpose to do
 the best support in Arch for vim editor. I like to work from a text
 console, with framebuffer, and vim :) As a TU, I will offer my
 knowledge and time to improve my favourite distribution and also the
 open source world, which gave me so much in the last few years.

 I would like to add these packages to the [community] repo.
 1. AVR microprocessor: avarice, avra, avr-gdb, kontrollerlab, simulavr,
 tavrasm, uisp,
 gnome-avrdude
 2. PIC microprocessor: picasm, picp, picprog, pikdev, piklab, pk2cmd
 3. Blackfin Digital Signal Processor: blackfin-toolchain-elf
 4. Tinyos: nesc, tinyos, tinyos-tools
 5. ARM architecture: openocd-svn
 6. Picoblaze Softcore processor: kpicosim
 7. FPGA design: ghdl-bin, verilator
 8. Some common, like usb-serial converter driver: libftd2xx.

 Feel free to ask me, if something is obscure or you would like to know
 more about me.

 Thanks to Stefan Husmann for sponsoring me.

 Best Regards, Laszlo Papp



-- 
---
Lucas Saliés Brum
http://sistematico.org
lsbrum @ irc.freenode.org


Re: [aur-general] TU application: Laszlo Papp

2009-08-02 Thread Jaroslav Lichtblau
On Sat, Aug 01, 2009 at 10:50:29PM +0200, Laszlo Papp wrote:
 On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 9:27 PM, Heiko Baums li...@baums-on-web.de wrote:

snip
 I think it's normal in the descussion period, if something is not clear, we
 speak about
 it. Feel free to ask me, if you have got doubts.
 

Hi Laszlo,
I got a look into your packages, this is what came up:

PKGBUILD (coldfire)  W: Description should not contain the package name.
PKGBUILD (eclipse-android) E: Missing md5sums
PKGBUILD (huffman)   W: Description should not contain the package name.
PKGBUILD (koctave3)  W: Attempting to use specific sourceforge mirror, use 
downloads.sourceforge.net instead
PKGBUILD (lcdproc-g15) W: Variable license is not an array.
PKGBUILD (lcdproc-g15) W: Attempting to use specific sourceforge mirror, use 
downloads.sourceforge.net instead
PKGBUILD (lcdproc-g15) W: Missing Maintainer tag
PKGBUILD (libticonv2) W: Missing Maintainer tag
PKGBUILD (makedumpfile) E: File referenced in $startdir outside of 
$startdir/src or $startdir/pkg
PKGBUILD (picasm)W: Description should not contain the package name.
PKGBUILD (pikdev)W: Variable license is not an array.
PKGBUILD (upslug2)   W: Missing Maintainer tag
PKGBUILD (vim-lustyexplorer) W: Missing Maintainer tag
PKGBUILD (yapide)W: Description should not contain the package name.

Mainly cosmetic errors. Maybe, as you took the work to add yourself as
a maintainer to some PKGBUILDs, why not to check the PKGBUILD as whole
and clean up all errors. Namcap is always usefull, as you recommend to
others on IRC/BBS.

While going through the list of your packages, I also looked on all
packages you submitted to AUR. What I find interesting is, that many
of them have actually a lot of votes gathered in the very short time
they are present in AUR. About the half of all your submitted packages has
more than 10 votes already - many of them are simple vim plugins. This
looks a bit strange to me.

snip
 
 
 I can't do it with 300 packages really, I discussed it. I've done the
 reassessment.
 Well I accept the opinion from Xyne, It's not a bad thing to contribute
 packages, even
 if the user will disown that, because somebody can continue to maintain it,
 and you
 can reach those now too from AUR.

Here I have to say, I also don't have a problem in contributing any
portion of packages, as long as they stay clean and build fine.

 
  The task of a TU is especially maintaining and compiling packages in
  the community binary repository and to do administrative and security
  related stuff in the AUR like orphaning packages etc. A TU needs to be
  able to write working and trustworthy PKGBUILDs, and a TU needs some
  more than only basic scripting skills, because some applications need
  PKGBUILDs which are not quite trivial, the people - every Arch Linux
  user - rely on and trust the binary repositories in terms of security
  and stability. I don't see this with Laszlo.
 
  Particularly see the symlink thing in his PKGBUILD for the library. If
  he was a Gentoo user for more than a year - I was one for about 6 years
  -, he should know, that a library doesn't have to be symlinked to keep
  or get reverse dependencies compatible to updated libraries. See
  revdep-rebuild, which every Gentoo user knows only too well. Symlinking
  a library can only be a quick and dirty workaround locally on one PC
  until the reverse depedency is rebuilt or fixed. If such a symlink is
  needed by another package, than he should file a feature request to
  upstream. So this shows me, that Laszlo doesn't have enough scripting
  and packaging skills, at least not enough to be able to build and
  maintain packages in a semi-official binary repository, which every
  user trusts.
 
 
 You can ask Corrado/bardo in this matter, I've worked with him together on
 gcc-avr
 packages, and it wasn't quite trivial/simple to keep it in updated format.
 We worked
 on it more days.
 I adopted some unclean packages that lasted me so much hours to fix, because
 they
 weren't so trivial for me. E.g. packages with kde3/kde4/qt3/qt4
 compatibility problem,
 or cross-compiling packages with cross-toolchain.
 Yeah I've used revdep-rebuild while sleeping or working on other machine,
 because it
 was a long operation by me ;)
 
 
 
  I also read his comment in the forums, which Xyne posted here.
 
  Well the Welcome to the forum can be seen friendly. But then he
  writes We must realize whether..., and just repeats, what Allan has
  already written. For me it sounds as he feels like already being a
  developer, or that he wants to presume to be one. I don't know Laszlo's
  intention, and I can do him wrong, but somehow it looks like craving
  for recognition, there are at least doubts.
 
  So I don't know, if I could trust him enough.


I have to say, I share few concerns which were brought earlier by Allan and
Loui. I find the recent huge increase of your activity a bit strange.
I have to say, I do admire the time you put into all parts of 

[aur-general] Winetools unavailable

2009-08-02 Thread Lucas Salies Brum
I don't know, but it seems that the link to the source of WineTools not working?

AUR: http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=8913
Source: http://www.openoffice.de/wt/winetools-0.9jo-III.tar.gz

Thank you.
---
Lucas Saliés Brum
http://sistematico.org
lsbrum @ irc.freenode.org


Re: [aur-general] Winetools unavailable

2009-08-02 Thread Jaroslav Lichtblau
On Sun, Aug 02, 2009 at 06:23:58PM +0200, Lucas Salies Brum wrote:
 I don't know, but it seems that the link to the source of WineTools not 
 working?
 
 AUR: http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=8913
 Source: http://www.openoffice.de/wt/winetools-0.9jo-III.tar.gz

PKGBUILD updated with working path, enjoy.

 
 Thank you.
 ---
 Lucas Saliés Brum
 http://sistematico.org
 lsbrum @ irc.freenode.org
 

-- 
Bill Gates stellt sich immer noch an wie ein Kleinkind,
dem man sein Lieblingsspielzeug wegnehmen will.
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Re: [aur-general] Removal request

2009-08-02 Thread hollunder
On Sun, 2 Aug 2009 09:01:07 -0400
Dany Martineau dany.luc.martin...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi!
 
 I was the owner of gguitar PKGBUILD, but since the project was
 renamed to wxguitar, i decided to create another PKGBUILD.
 Could someone with sufficient rights could delete gguitar from AUR?
 
 Thanks!
 

Hi, I noticed that this package requires wxgtk to be compiled with
--enable-mediactrl. I also know of an app I'd like to put on AUR which
suffers from the same problem. Do you think we should request that
wxgtk gets compiled with --enable-mediactrl by default?
The problem with this is that it adds a dependency on gstreamer.

Philipp


Re: [aur-general] TU application: Laszlo Papp

2009-08-02 Thread Laszlo Papp
On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 5:41 PM, Jaroslav Lichtblau t...@dragonlord.cz wrote:

 On Sat, Aug 01, 2009 at 10:50:29PM +0200, Laszlo Papp wrote:
  On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 9:27 PM, Heiko Baums li...@baums-on-web.de
 wrote:

 snip
  I think it's normal in the descussion period, if something is not clear,
 we
  speak about
  it. Feel free to ask me, if you have got doubts.
 

 Hi Laszlo,
 I got a look into your packages, this is what came up:

 PKGBUILD (coldfire)  W: Description should not contain the package name.
 PKGBUILD (eclipse-android) E: Missing md5sums
 PKGBUILD (huffman)   W: Description should not contain the package name.
 PKGBUILD (koctave3)  W: Attempting to use specific sourceforge mirror, use
 downloads.sourceforge.net instead
 PKGBUILD (lcdproc-g15) W: Variable license is not an array.
 PKGBUILD (lcdproc-g15) W: Attempting to use specific sourceforge mirror,
 use downloads.sourceforge.net instead
 PKGBUILD (lcdproc-g15) W: Missing Maintainer tag
 PKGBUILD (libticonv2) W: Missing Maintainer tag
 PKGBUILD (makedumpfile) E: File referenced in $startdir outside of
 $startdir/src or $startdir/pkg
 PKGBUILD (picasm)W: Description should not contain the package name.
 PKGBUILD (pikdev)W: Variable license is not an array.
 PKGBUILD (upslug2)   W: Missing Maintainer tag
 PKGBUILD (vim-lustyexplorer) W: Missing Maintainer tag
 PKGBUILD (yapide)W: Description should not contain the package name.

 Mainly cosmetic errors. Maybe, as you took the work to add yourself as
 a maintainer to some PKGBUILDs, why not to check the PKGBUILD as whole
 and clean up all errors. Namcap is always usefull, as you recommend to
 others on IRC/BBS.


Solved, thanks.



 While going through the list of your packages, I also looked on all
 packages you submitted to AUR. What I find interesting is, that many
 of them have actually a lot of votes gathered in the very short time
 they are present in AUR. About the half of all your submitted packages has
 more than 10 votes already - many of them are simple vim plugins. This
 looks a bit strange to me.


It's good to hear vim packages are so popular among my familiar and others.
After I submitted those packages, I took an advertisment in vim channel on
freenode, and among work colleague, and friends. Something similar, More
vim plugins are available in AUR, you can try it. It's true I've got so
much VIM fan friends, colleague in the real life too, and on the internet
too. Maybe this is the reason.
But I'd like to focus for the embedded development related packages.



 snip
  
 
  I can't do it with 300 packages really, I discussed it. I've done the
  reassessment.
  Well I accept the opinion from Xyne, It's not a bad thing to contribute
  packages, even
  if the user will disown that, because somebody can continue to maintain
 it,
  and you
  can reach those now too from AUR.

 Here I have to say, I also don't have a problem in contributing any
 portion of packages, as long as they stay clean and build fine.

  
   The task of a TU is especially maintaining and compiling packages in
   the community binary repository and to do administrative and security
   related stuff in the AUR like orphaning packages etc. A TU needs to be
   able to write working and trustworthy PKGBUILDs, and a TU needs some
   more than only basic scripting skills, because some applications need
   PKGBUILDs which are not quite trivial, the people - every Arch Linux
   user - rely on and trust the binary repositories in terms of security
   and stability. I don't see this with Laszlo.
  
   Particularly see the symlink thing in his PKGBUILD for the library. If
   he was a Gentoo user for more than a year - I was one for about 6 years
   -, he should know, that a library doesn't have to be symlinked to keep
   or get reverse dependencies compatible to updated libraries. See
   revdep-rebuild, which every Gentoo user knows only too well. Symlinking
   a library can only be a quick and dirty workaround locally on one PC
   until the reverse depedency is rebuilt or fixed. If such a symlink is
   needed by another package, than he should file a feature request to
   upstream. So this shows me, that Laszlo doesn't have enough scripting
   and packaging skills, at least not enough to be able to build and
   maintain packages in a semi-official binary repository, which every
   user trusts.
 
 
  You can ask Corrado/bardo in this matter, I've worked with him together
 on
  gcc-avr
  packages, and it wasn't quite trivial/simple to keep it in updated
 format.
  We worked
  on it more days.
  I adopted some unclean packages that lasted me so much hours to fix,
 because
  they
  weren't so trivial for me. E.g. packages with kde3/kde4/qt3/qt4
  compatibility problem,
  or cross-compiling packages with cross-toolchain.
  Yeah I've used revdep-rebuild while sleeping or working on other machine,
  because it
  was a long operation by me ;)
 
 
  
   I also read his comment in the forums, which Xyne posted here.
  

Re: [aur-general] TU application: Laszlo Papp

2009-08-02 Thread Evangelos Foutras

Laszlo Papp,

I share Allan's and Loui's concerns about the longevity of your interest 
in Arch, and I would like to focus on a couple of inaccuracies I've 
noticed in your original application. I'll keep this message short and 
not repeat any of the concerns that have already been raised by other 
people.


While my questions below may come off as picky (and even impolite and 
aggressive), I think they are valid and I'd appreciate sincere answers 
to them.


Laszlo Papp wrote:

I'd like to formally express my interest in becoming a Trusted User.
My name is Laszlo Papp and I'm addicted to archlinux. :) I'm a 23 year
old from Hungary, working at a resourcement/development company as
Embedded Linux Developer.
  


In your CV [1] I read: Since 2009. January – 2009. May Audio Dension 
Kft, Embedded Linux C Developer. Your current job, as seen on your CV, 
appears to be as a Software Developer. However, in your TU application 
you've included your previous job title. What's the deal here?



I've been using Linux for more than 7 years. I used Gentoo until early
2008, and I learned a great deal about Linux in the process. I settled
on Arch more than 1 year ago, nearly 1 and half :) Moving to Arch was
easy for me, because of my years of experience with Gentoo. I was very
attracted by the lack of dominance of money and business world and by
the warm and friendly community.
  


So, you say you haven't used Gentoo in over 18 months. How is it then 
possible that you filed a bug report [2] with Gentoo this February?



Besides the above inaccuracies, you've mentioned twice in this thread 
that you like helping other people. More specifically, you've said:


- Archlinux Contribution isn't my short distance plan only. I like to 
do it, I like to give helping hand for the newbies., and

- I enjoy helping the newbies, and other users, if I can..

However, in a private discussion we had less than a month ago [3], you 
weren't exactly fond of the idea of helping other people. What you did 
seem interested in, was to know whether this lack of activity on the 
forums and mailing lists could become a deciding factor in a TU 
application. This left me with a pretty bad impression of you that day.


Closing, I'd like to say that the behavior you've shown so far, and your 
intense enthusiasm worry me a great deal. While your intentions may be 
noble, I can't help thinking that you don't have the right mindset for 
the position you're applying for.


I hope you won't get offended by any of the above. They are all valid 
concerns of mine and getting answers to them would greatly help me 
decide on how to vote.



[1] http://djszapi.homelinux.net/CV_en.pdf
[2] http://bugs.gentoo.org/257470
[3] http://i28.tinypic.com/4zxn2h.png


Re: [aur-general] Winetools unavailable

2009-08-02 Thread Lucas Salies Brum
thank you..

2009/8/2, Jaroslav Lichtblau t...@dragonlord.cz:
 On Sun, Aug 02, 2009 at 06:23:58PM +0200, Lucas Salies Brum wrote:
 I don't know, but it seems that the link to the source of WineTools not
 working?

 AUR: http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=8913
 Source: http://www.openoffice.de/wt/winetools-0.9jo-III.tar.gz

 PKGBUILD updated with working path, enjoy.


 Thank you.
 ---
 Lucas Saliés Brum
 http://sistematico.org
 lsbrum @ irc.freenode.org


 --
 Bill Gates stellt sich immer noch an wie ein Kleinkind,
 dem man sein Lieblingsspielzeug wegnehmen will.
   -- Heise Ticker



-- 
---
Lucas Saliés Brum
http://sistematico.org
lsbrum @ irc.freenode.org


Re: [aur-general] TU application: Laszlo Papp

2009-08-02 Thread Laszlo Papp
On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 9:03 PM, Evangelos Foutras foutre...@gmail.comwrote:

 Laszlo Papp,

 I share Allan's and Loui's concerns about the longevity of your interest in
 Arch, and I would like to focus on a couple of inaccuracies I've noticed in
 your original application. I'll keep this message short and not repeat any
 of the concerns that have already been raised by other people.

 While my questions below may come off as picky (and even impolite and
 aggressive), I think they are valid and I'd appreciate sincere answers to
 them.

 Laszlo Papp wrote:

 I'd like to formally express my interest in becoming a Trusted User.
 My name is Laszlo Papp and I'm addicted to archlinux. :) I'm a 23 year
 old from Hungary, working at a resourcement/development company as
 Embedded Linux Developer.



 In your CV [1] I read: Since 2009. January – 2009. May Audio Dension Kft,
 Embedded Linux C Developer. Your current job, as seen on your CV, appears
 to be as a Software Developer. However, in your TU application you've
 included your previous job title. What's the deal here?



Hello Evangelos!

I wrote at my present company usb kernel drivers, and one PCI related, and
now I deal with Blackfin Digital Signal Processor, and embedded linux,
uClinux operating system.
'Software Developer' can mean so much things, I'd have specialized my
activity so that you can get more detailed information about me.
Well, if I hear that 'Software Developer', or 'Development Engineer', it
doesn't mean so much for it, because this can be a lot of jobs. I've tried
to service more information about me with it.



  I've been using Linux for more than 7 years. I used Gentoo until early
 2008, and I learned a great deal about Linux in the process. I settled
 on Arch more than 1 year ago, nearly 1 and half :) Moving to Arch was
 easy for me, because of my years of experience with Gentoo. I was very
 attracted by the lack of dominance of money and business world and by
 the warm and friendly community.



 So, you say you haven't used Gentoo in over 18 months. How is it then
 possible that you filed a bug report [2] with Gentoo this February?


Because it wasn't a black and white changing, I booted sometimes gentoo to
add this a one plus facility. My gentoo system stayed on a separate
harddisk, I can boot it anytime, or chroot to it, but recently I use
Archlinux the most. And of course there were some situations at my company
when I needed to use other distribution too, like Fedora, Ubuntu, because of
the customer requirements or something similar.



 Besides the above inaccuracies, you've mentioned twice in this thread that
 you like helping other people. More specifically, you've said:

 - Archlinux Contribution isn't my short distance plan only. I like to do
 it, I like to give helping hand for the newbies., and
 - I enjoy helping the newbies, and other users, if I can..

 However, in a private discussion we had less than a month ago [3], you
 weren't exactly fond of the idea of helping other people. What you did seem
 interested in, was to know whether this lack of activity on the forums and
 mailing lists could become a deciding factor in a TU application. This left
 me with a pretty bad impression of you that day.


Sorry, if I caused bad impression with it. In that time I didn't have so
much times for it, it's sure, I had got lot of works at the company, and all
my contribution that time was packaging, but when I closed a big project by
the company, I could help on forum and mailing list too. It can occur in the
future too so that I won't have so much time like now, because of a company
project. It doesn't mean that nothing, but lesser.




 Closing, I'd like to say that the behavior you've shown so far, and your
 intense enthusiasm worry me a great deal. While your intentions may be
 noble, I can't help thinking that you don't have the right mindset for the
 position you're applying for.

 I hope you won't get offended by any of the above. They are all valid
 concerns of mine and getting answers to them would greatly help me decide on
 how to vote.

 
 [1] http://djszapi.homelinux.net/CV_en.pdf
 [2] http://bugs.gentoo.org/257470
 [3] http://i28.tinypic.com/4zxn2h.png


I try to answer for all your questions, if I can, thank you.

Best Regards,
Laszlo Papp


Re: [aur-general] TU application: Laszlo Papp

2009-08-02 Thread Laszlo Papp
On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 9:45 PM, Mateusz Herych heni...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello Laszlo.

 I see many of your vim-* packages has the same voters:
 alephlg, Gaboo, raron, zsomi, Suicidium, rhen
 Let's look into their IDs..

 alephlg - 16066
 Gaboo - 16077
 raron - 16081
 zsomi - 16070
 Suicidium - 16075
 rhen - 16080

 Does it mean these accounts were registered in the same time? If so,
 that looks a bit strange for me. Could you explain it? Maybe i'm
 wrong.

 Regards,
 Mateusz.


Hello Mateusz!

As I said similarly earlier:

I took an advertisment in vim channel on freenode, and among work colleague,
and friends, familiars. Something similar, More vim plugins are available
in AUR, you can try it, if you feel so. It's true I've got so much VIM fan
friends, colleague, familiars in the real life, and on the internet too.
Maybe this is the reason.

I didn't take deeper researching in this matter, who voted for those
package, or who didn't, because I think it's their private decision to vote
for a package or not, so i didn't asked them. I keep in respect their
decision. But I always vote for my packages :)

Nevertheless I've disowned most of the vim related packages, because I'd
like to deal with embedded development packages better.

I won't be very active tomorrow in the daytime, but I will reply for all
your questions at evening.

Best Regards,
Laszlo Papp


Re: [aur-general] Removal request

2009-08-02 Thread Dany Martineau
It could be an idea to create a wxgtk-media PKGBUILD in AUR while waiting for 
wxgtk compiled with --enable-mediactrl by default.
I could be responsible of the PKGBUILD since it doesn't seem to hard to 
create...


  Hi, I noticed that this package requires wxgtk to be compiled with
  --enable-mediactrl. I also know of an app I'd like to put on AUR which
  suffers from the same problem. Do you think we should request that
  wxgtk gets compiled with --enable-mediactrl by default?
  The problem with this is that it adds a dependency on gstreamer.
 
  Philipp

 This was requested and basically rejected because of the gnome
 dependency that gstreamer would bring:
 http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/11756

 Feel free to re-open it though. Specify what packages in repos or AUR
 need that feature. If it's used by a lot of apps and users want this,
 I could reconsider.

-- 
Dany Martineau
Enseignant en mathématiques
En congé parental jusqu'au 25 août 2009
http://arctangente.blogspot.com
CSSMI


Re: [aur-general] TU application: Laszlo Papp

2009-08-02 Thread Evangelos Foutras

Laszlo Papp wrote:

I try to answer for all your questions, if I can, thank you.

Best Regards,
Laszlo Papp
  


Thank you for taking the time to respond to my questions. Your answers 
were enlightening.


Regards,


[aur-general] Out-of-date community packages

2009-08-02 Thread Eric Bélanger
Hi TU,

Since the community repo has been moved to the main web site, you are
no longer receiving out-of-date notifications as they are being listed
as orphans. We are currently working on finishing the setup, accounts,
etc. Meanwhile, here's a list of recently flagged packages (there
might be core/extra packages as I didn't bothered filtering the list):

[acetoneiso2]
[fceux]
[listen]
[qemu]
[aircrack-ng]
[gnote]
[netbeans]
[rubyripper]
[pinentry]
[virtualbox-additions]
[virtualbox-modules]
[virtualbox-ose]
[virtualbox-ose-additions]
[virtualbox-ose-additions-modules]
[awesome]
[imagemagick]
[xtrans]
[rtorrent]
[libtorrent]
[kvpnc]
[nilfs]
[nilfs-utils]
[openttd]
[vnstat]
[efreet-svn]
[eina-svn]
[ecore-svn]
[embryo-svn]
[edje-svn]
[e_dbus-svn]
[e-svn]
[python-sphinx]
[libotf]
[monit]

Eric


Re: [aur-general] Out-of-date community packages

2009-08-02 Thread Biru Ionut

Eric Bélanger wrote:

Hi TU,

Since the community repo has been moved to the main web site, you are
no longer receiving out-of-date notifications as they are being listed
as orphans. We are currently working on finishing the setup, accounts,
etc. Meanwhile, here's a list of recently flagged packages (there
might be core/extra packages as I didn't bothered filtering the list):




[gnote]
[virtualbox-additions]
[virtualbox-modules]
[virtualbox-ose]
[virtualbox-ose-additions]
[virtualbox-ose-additions-modules]



those are up to date and don't know why where flagged.


--
Ionut


Re: [aur-general] Out-of-date community packages

2009-08-02 Thread Eric Bélanger
On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 5:13 PM, Biru Ionutbiru.io...@gmail.com wrote:
 Eric Bélanger wrote:

 Hi TU,

 Since the community repo has been moved to the main web site, you are
 no longer receiving out-of-date notifications as they are being listed
 as orphans. We are currently working on finishing the setup, accounts,
 etc. Meanwhile, here's a list of recently flagged packages (there
 might be core/extra packages as I didn't bothered filtering the list):


 [gnote]

It was updated after it was flagged. I haven't checked if the packages
have been updated or not before sending the list.


 [virtualbox-additions]
 [virtualbox-modules]
 [virtualbox-ose]
 [virtualbox-ose-additions]
 [virtualbox-ose-additions-modules]


It looks like a user abused the flag out-of-date functionnality:

The user provided the following additional text:

Neither the name nor description reveal what purpose this package has.

Should not a description be descriptive enough on ArchLinux packages?

kernel modules for what? Linux? which one?


All virtualbox packages had a similar message.  BTW, I have all the
users' messages when they flag a package. If you don't understand why
a package was flagged, ask me and I'll check.





 those are up to date and don't know why where flagged.


 --
 Ionut



Re: [aur-general] Removal request

2009-08-02 Thread hollunder
On Sun, 2 Aug 2009 15:43:36 -0400
Eric Bélanger snowmanisc...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 1:17 PM, hollun...@gmx.at wrote:
  On Sun, 2 Aug 2009 09:01:07 -0400
  Dany Martineau dany.luc.martin...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Hi!
 
  I was the owner of gguitar PKGBUILD, but since the project was
  renamed to wxguitar, i decided to create another PKGBUILD.
  Could someone with sufficient rights could delete gguitar from AUR?
 
  Thanks!
 
 
  Hi, I noticed that this package requires wxgtk to be compiled with
  --enable-mediactrl. I also know of an app I'd like to put on AUR
  which suffers from the same problem. Do you think we should request
  that wxgtk gets compiled with --enable-mediactrl by default?
  The problem with this is that it adds a dependency on gstreamer.
 
  Philipp
 
 
 This was requested and basically rejected because of the gnome
 dependency that gstreamer would bring:
 http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/11756
 
 Feel free to re-open it though. Specify what packages in repos or AUR
 need that feature. If it's used by a lot of apps and users want this,
 I could reconsider.

I don't like gnome dependencies either. As far as I've seen in the
tracker and in my previous build gconf would be that dependency. For
the sake of this experiment I tried to compile it without gconf
installed and it worked but mediactrl wasn't compiled then. I don't see
gstreamer bringing in any gnome dependency by itself. gconf isn't the
worst gnome dependency there is but oh well. The specific app I planned
to package doesn't compile through with mediactrl enabled either which
I reported two versions ago, so I stopped caring.
I won't open that bug again now. Serious audio apps use something else
anyway.

Sorry for the trouble.
Philipp


Re: [aur-general] Removal request

2009-08-02 Thread Dany Martineau
Le 2 août 2009 16:47:35, vous avez écrit :
 On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Dany

 Martineaudany.luc.martin...@gmail.com wrote:
  It could be an idea to create a wxgtk-media PKGBUILD in AUR while waiting
  for wxgtk compiled with --enable-mediactrl by default.
  I could be responsible of the PKGBUILD since it doesn't seem to hard to
  create...

 Yes, do so.  Users will be able to vote for it so it'll be a good way
 to see how popular it is. See the bug report. The additionnal depends
 are listed there.


Done. 
wxgtk-media PKGBUILD exists in AUR, so other maintainers of apps that requires  
--enable-mediactrl can now modify their scripts.

Thanks for quick response Eric.  I decided to subscribe to this mailing list, 
as i maintain a couple of pkgbuilds since few months and wants to help if i 
could.


-- 
Dany Martineau
Enseignant en mathématiques
En congé parental jusqu'au 25 août 2009
http://arctangente.blogspot.com
CSSMI


Re: [aur-general] Out-of-date community packages

2009-08-02 Thread Ronald van Haren
On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 11:11 PM, Eric Bélanger snowmanisc...@gmail.comwrote:

 [efreet-svn]
 [eina-svn]
 [ecore-svn]
 [embryo-svn]
 [edje-svn]
 [e_dbus-svn]
 [e-svn]


Yes I received the message in my inbox ;-) I'll get to it sometime during
this week, or so I hope if I find time to double check my update
buildscript. Just so that people waiting for it know now.
Ronald


Re: [aur-general] TU application: Laszlo Papp

2009-08-02 Thread Laszlo Papp
On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 11:05 PM, Jaroslav Lichtblau t...@dragonlord.czwrote:

 On Sun, Aug 02, 2009 at 10:22:16PM +0200, Laszlo Papp wrote:
  On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 9:45 PM, Mateusz Herych heni...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
   Hello Laszlo.
  
   I see many of your vim-* packages has the same voters:
   alephlg, Gaboo, raron, zsomi, Suicidium, rhen
   Let's look into their IDs..
  
   alephlg - 16066
   Gaboo - 16077
   raron - 16081
   zsomi - 16070
   Suicidium - 16075
   rhen - 16080
  
   Does it mean these accounts were registered in the same time? If so,
   that looks a bit strange for me. Could you explain it? Maybe i'm
   wrong.
  
   Regards,
   Mateusz.
 
 
  Hello Mateusz!
 
  As I said similarly earlier:
 
  I took an advertisment in vim channel on freenode, and among work
 colleague,
  and friends, familiars. Something similar, More vim plugins are
 available
  in AUR, you can try it, if you feel so. It's true I've got so much VIM
 fan
  friends, colleague, familiars in the real life, and on the internet too.
  Maybe this is the reason.

 Are all those friends of your also running Arch Linux? The names of
 the voters do not change much and also voted on packages you proposed
 to bring into [community] repository - reaching the 10 votes limit.
 Did you advertised those packages too to them?


Yeah, but I adopted quite a few from those packages. I see packages from
those with 2/9/15/17/27/62 votes too. I didn't follow really who voted or
who didn't.
But I can see one thing, embedded development and related packages are
needed by some people, I started to deal with those packages because of
this, and because I use those ones too.



  I didn't take deeper researching in this matter, who voted for those
  package, or who didn't, because I think it's their private decision to
 vote
  for a package or not, so i didn't asked them. I keep in respect their
  decision. But I always vote for my packages :)
 
  Nevertheless I've disowned most of the vim related packages, because I'd
  like to deal with embedded development packages better.

 Not that keeping those vim plugins would take much work, they don't
 change that offen to my knowledge.


Not so much work, but sometimes it can be hard. I've seen already that It
changed after an updating from a simple script plugin, file to a more
complicated package, with other handling, e.g. vimballed and sometimes the
new update is buggy firstly.
But the real reason is I'd like provide embedded development related
packages more than vim packages.



  I won't be very active tomorrow in the daytime, but I will reply for all
  your questions at evening.
 
  Best Regards,
  Laszlo Papp
 

 Thanks for all those quick answers, that keeps the discussion
 swift.

 Jaroslav


 --
When devfs went into the tree, the word was at least it will
 make people look at the code.  Well, it did.  Veni, vidi, vomere.

- Al Viro on linux-kernel


No problem, just ask me :)

Best Regards,
Laszlo Papp


Re: [aur-general] TU application: Laszlo Papp

2009-08-02 Thread Angel Velásquez
Replying from my Nokia E71:

Hi Laszlo and the crew,

First of all, I don't want point you about the case of the 'phantom'
votes and the 'phantom' accounts, so..

Loui can you give us more info about this? To make a real proof?, for
example date and hour of the creation of the account, last ip who
accesed these accounts, or something more powerful to make the proof
if Laszlo or other person created them.

If we found in that proof that Laszlo is guilty I'd like to suggest
the 'ban' of his application (This seems to be a childish way to
'promove' crap to community just because the person thinks that
deserve to be in community and the way was fill aur with phantoms
accounts, and phantom votes), else, if Loui can't found a proof, we
can start thinking in the development of more fields, routines, etc
for cases like this (I'd like to help with this Loui :P).

IMHO, a person who is pointed for other TUs as a 'annoying' 'obsesive'
and now 'fake voter' doesn't seems good to me for be a TU.

I am not TU anymore and I've be some inactive, but i'd like to express
my opinion, this application shouldn't go more far, but.. there is a
votation process, I just will wait for the results.

Good 'luck' anyway

A.


-- 
Angel Velásquez
angvp @ irc.freenode.net
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