[aur-general] AUR password reset / cross-compiling some lib32-

2009-10-27 Thread Mikhail Vorozhtsov
Hi.

I was dumb enough to lose my AUR password. Left a request on the forum
three days ago, PM'd the guy ('wonder') who did resets for other people
earlier with no luck so far. Looking for a kind soul with enough
administrative rights to help me.

Back to the list topic, I've created a few packages for cross-compiling
32bit apps (namely, cross32-binutils, lib32-glibc-devel, and
cross32-gcc, I'll upload them as soon as I recover my password). I use
these packages to compile a version of lib32-alsa-lib (will be uploaded
as lib32-alsa-lib-fixed) that looks for plugins
in /opt/lib32/usr/lib/alsa-lib instead of /usr/lib/alsa-lib (and thus
doesn't crash your wine/skype/etc). Feel free to use them when you
encounter 32bit apps that have hardcoded paths for dynamic code loading.


Re: [aur-general] AUR password reset / cross-compiling some lib32-

2009-10-27 Thread Ionut Biru

On 10/27/2009 11:03 AM, Mikhail Vorozhtsov wrote:

Hi.

I was dumb enough to lose my AUR password. Left a request on the forum
three days ago, PM'd the guy ('wonder') who did resets for other people
earlier with no luck so far. Looking for a kind soul with enough
administrative rights to help me.



i really sent you the password yesterday.

--
Ionut


Re: [aur-general] xulrunner in AUR and extra?

2009-10-27 Thread Smartboy
I know it used to be required for Aptana, which is why it was uploaded (I
think). Now it isn't required by it anymore, though.

Smartboy

On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 10:25 PM, Eric Bélanger snowmanisc...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 12:07 AM, Phillip Smith arch-gene...@fukawi2.nl
 wrote:
  I'm going through the orphans list in the AUR at the moment looking for
  packages to adopt, and came across xulrunner. Given then xulrunner is now
 in
  extra, shouldn't it be removed from the AUR?
 

 The package in AUR is xulrunner-1.8, not xulrunner.  I guess it's
 there because it is  (was?) required for apps that didn't worked with
 the latest xulrunner.



[aur-general] Which package for cuda

2009-10-27 Thread Karol Babioch
Hi,

I need cuda for some of my applications, and just realized that nvidia
has outsourced the cuda driver to another package. I could easily
download this driver and install it, however it would be great, if I
could use aur.

I have seen some packages containing cuda in the name, but the package
cuda just seems to be a meta package, which depends on cuda-toolkit
and cuda-sdk, which I don't need at all.

So is there any package I can install just to gain the possibility to
use cuda, but not to install the sdk (nor the toolkit)?

-- 
Best regards,
Karol Babioch ka...@babioch.de


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[aur-general] Remove vimperator-git

2009-10-27 Thread Michael Witten
I am the maintainer of vimperator-git. That project now uses
mercurial (hg) rather than git, so I have uploaded a new package named
vimperator-hg, and now I would like to have vimperator-git removed
from AUR.

Thanks!
mfwitten

P.S.

Under the current conventions, it is necessary to change the package
name whenever the underlying version control system (VCS) is changed.
Perhaps there should be a policy that encourages a more general suffix
for such packages: vimperator-vcs.


Re: [aur-general] Remove vimperator-git

2009-10-27 Thread Chris Brannon
Michael Witten wrote:
 I am the maintainer of vimperator-git. That project now uses
 mercurial (hg) rather than git, so I have uploaded a new package named
 vimperator-hg, and now I would like to have vimperator-git removed

Done!

 P.S.
 Under the current conventions, it is necessary to change the package
 name whenever the underlying version control system (VCS) is changed.
 Perhaps there should be a policy that encourages a more general suffix
 for such packages: vimperator-vcs.

That's an interesting idea.  Personally, I like it.
I doubt that Joe User (or Jane User) typically cares about the VCS used
by a given project.

-- Chris


Re: [aur-general] Remove vimperator-git

2009-10-27 Thread Michael Witten
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 12:15 PM, Michael Witten mfwit...@gmail.com wrote:
 I am the maintainer of vimperator-git. That project now uses
 mercurial (hg) rather than git, so I have uploaded a new package named
 vimperator-hg, and now I would like to have vimperator-git removed
 from AUR.

 Thanks!
 mfwitten

 P.S.

 Under the current conventions, it is necessary to change the package
 name whenever the underlying version control system (VCS) is changed.
 Perhaps there should be a policy that encourages a more general suffix
 for such packages: vimperator-vcs.

I guess my `replaces=(vimperator-git)' took care of it. :-)

I was wondering whether that would happen; I guess I should have checked.


Re: [aur-general] Remove vimperator-git

2009-10-27 Thread Chris Brannon
Michael Witten wrote:
 I guess my `replaces=(vimperator-git)' took care of it. :-)
 
 I was wondering whether that would happen; I guess I should have checked.

No, I did.  You can't cause packages to be deleted automatically just by
putting them in the replaces array.  Imagine how easy it would be to abuse
a (mis)feature like that!

-- Chris


Re: [aur-general] xulrunner in AUR and extra?

2009-10-27 Thread Stefan Husmann

Smartboy schrieb:

I know it used to be required for Aptana, which is why it was uploaded (I
think). Now it isn't required by it anymore, though.

Smartboy

On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 10:25 PM, Eric Bélanger snowmanisc...@gmail.comwrote:


On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 12:07 AM, Phillip Smith arch-gene...@fukawi2.nl
wrote:

I'm going through the orphans list in the AUR at the moment looking for
packages to adopt, and came across xulrunner. Given then xulrunner is now

in

extra, shouldn't it be removed from the AUR?


The package in AUR is xulrunner-1.8, not xulrunner.  I guess it's
there because it is  (was?) required for apps that didn't worked with
the latest xulrunner.




Hello,

zattoo still needs it. It is flagged out of date, though.

Regards Stefan.


Re: [aur-general] Remove vimperator-git

2009-10-27 Thread Xavier
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Michael Witten mfwit...@gmail.com wrote:

 Under the current conventions, it is necessary to change the package
 name whenever the underlying version control system (VCS) is changed.
 Perhaps there should be a policy that encourages a more general suffix
 for such packages: vimperator-vcs.

 I guess my `replaces=(vimperator-git)' took care of it. :-)

 I was wondering whether that would happen; I guess I should have checked.


BTW replaces only has an effect when put in a sync db for pacman.
So it is completely useless on AUR, at least from pacman point of
view, but I am not aware of any other usage of this field.
You can only use provides/conflicts


Re: [aur-general] xulrunner in AUR and extra?

2009-10-27 Thread vlad
Hi,

On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 06:29:34PM +0100, Stefan Husmann wrote:
 Hello,
 
 zattoo still needs it. It is flagged out of date, though.
I submitted xulrunner-1.8 some time ago to AUR. 
Now there is no need for this package as zattoo has no client for
Linux anymore. It is only available as a browser-app.
Xulrunner-1.8 can now be safely deleted imo. 

Vlad

-- 


Re: [aur-general] Remove vimperator-git

2009-10-27 Thread Michael Witten
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 12:39 PM, Chris Brannon cmbranno...@gmail.com wrote:
 Michael Witten wrote:
 I guess my `replaces=(vimperator-git)' took care of it. :-)

 I was wondering whether that would happen; I guess I should have checked.

 No, I did.

Ah! :-)

That's more believable.

 You can't cause packages to be deleted automatically just by
 putting them in the replaces array.  Imagine how easy it would be to abuse
 a (mis)feature like that!

It depends on the rules that define who and when something can be deleted.

The current AUR policies are bizarre to me: The AUR is a sink for any
old package, and the only way to unclog it is to contact the town
plumber. Can't we give the village folk some tools to handle their own
minor maintenance issues? In this case, as the maintainer of both
packages (vimperator-{git,hg}), it wouldn't seem unreasonable to allow
me to replace one package with another.

In particular, why not at least allow a maintainer to deprecate a
package; anyone else can un-deprecate a package, and after a while
(say, a couple of months), if nobody has un-deprecated a deprecated
package, then that package should be deleted automatically---or at
least someone with the power to delete the package should be notified
to do so.

How about automatically marking a package as deprecated (as described
above) if the package files haven't been accessed in some interval of
time (say, a year).

Also, how about automatically removing the maintainer of a package if
that package has been marked out-of-date for some interval of time
(say, a couple of months).

Just some ideas (that probably aren't new).

Thanks,
mfwitten


Re: [aur-general] Remove vimperator-git

2009-10-27 Thread Michael Witten
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Xavier shinin...@gmail.com wrote:

 BTW replaces only has an effect when put in a sync db for pacman.
 So it is completely useless on AUR, at least from pacman point of
 view, but I am not aware of any other usage of this field.
 You can only use provides/conflicts

Yeah... the docs are a little inscrutable, providing only a
description of the tangential result:

 replaces (array)
 An array of packages that this package should replace,
 and can be used to handle renamed/combined packages.
 For example, if the j2re package is renamed to jre, this
 directive allows future upgrades to continue as expected
 even though the package has moved. Sysupgrade is
 currently the only pacman operation that utilizes this field,
 a normal sync will not use its value.

In fact, I'm pretty sure that the last sentence was added fairly
recently.